Should we let students use ChatGPT? | Natasha Berg | TEDxSioux Falls

The emergence of ChatGPT in November of 2022 took the world by storm: particularly the world of education. With this technology able to generate complex pieces of writing, solve advanced math equations, generate code, and more with the push of a button, educators across the country have entered a state of panic. How are educators supposed to teach students when they have this technology at their literal fingertips?
For too long, the field of education has been teetering at the precipice of serious change, and the widespread accessibility of generative AI may just be the catalyst education needs in order to progress in tandem with the rest of the world. But first, educators need to reevaluate their answer to the tough question: why do we teach?
Natasha Berg, M.Ed. works as the Multimedia and Technology Integration Specialist at a local high school in South Dakota. She has spent her career learning about and developing her skills in education and educational technology. Berg believes that new and emerging technology should be integrated into classrooms as it fully prepares students to enter the 21st century workforce and helps make learning accessible to students of all abilities. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

[@guru0503p]

"If students feel as though what they are learning in the classroom will benefit them in the long run, they will be invested in learning. They won't be looking for shortcuts to simply get the work done." ❤

[@JAFFER3657]

It's effective, doesn't get angry and let the student ask questions that he/she is afraid to ask in the class with 20+ other students ending up making fun of him later because the question was too simple "Everyone already should know", yea not exactly. Not all students have the same level, some are fast learners, some have better home environments and financial support while others are slow and have problems in their personal lives, when they ask questions and its made fun of in class they are left behind. Do not just assume that all the teachers are "Great", Chat GPT if I ask it to explain this algebra problem and it explains it and still, if I don't get it I can say "Explain it in a way to make a 5-year-old understand it" and it will go literally step by step to make me understand the problem which only a Good Teacher will be able to do and it is also to some extent where nervous student would just say "yes I got it" but didn't in reality. You can ask however you want and it will just reply without anger, humiliation, and mockery. I would just love it if they made AI check all the exam papers which would eliminate all the favoritism in the universities and colleges and would also help in awarding scholarships to the ones who deserve it.

[@quietsgaming518]

😮😮😢😢

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

The problem is ChatGPT can be and regularly is wrong. They deliver these incorrect statements as if it's fact. Therefore, a bit of common sense is also extremely necessary. And well... the people working on these AI programs don't really care about that - in fact, they really don't care about anything other than their technological arms race and making absurd money from it. They pretend they don't earn any money at all to anyone poking their nose into it, selling their specialised tools to big business (tools designed to cut through the noise) while also letting kids and greedy techbros goof around with their older models for free (thus destabilising the creative arts industries, because it allows people to bypass needing any real skill to create anything). Leaving AI to mark an exam could cause similar problems - especially as the AI 'learns' from those inputs. What could be a regular mistake across all exam papers might cause the AI to change the right answer to that incorrect one, because it learns from correlation. It doesn't check to see if that correlation is correct because it's often not equipped to do so. Oh yeah, and don't tell me that anyone wanting to save money on a marking tool isn't going to use the noisy free model with all its flaws instead. Because you know they would. Favouritism sucks. I know that because I was a victim of it. But this could be potentially worse, as it could result in the severely unqualified being in jobs they shouldn't be - and this is already an issue, you absolutely don't want more of them.

[@JAFFER3657]

@@Tazer_Silverscar what you have highlighted are just the concerns which can go away if it is fully adapted and everyone starts giving their feedback on how it should work but instead of doing that let's just ban it alltogether. Businesses (or investors) don't care about who loses their job and they will adapt to it regardless of what an indvidual thinks. If a teacher checking exam paper costs more than an AI system then they will go for it because education is also a "business". Bugs and errors are everywhere in the Tech field but they do improve it overtime with error reporting and diagnostic tools. For Example: I saw many journalists fighting for their industry going downhill becuase of social media where anyone without any license and degree is becoming a news reporter which is giving private channels and already promoted news reporters a hard time but see it now they are literally pully videos from instagram and facebook and writing articles and highlighting it on main media headlines which takes out the field reporter jobs but it didn't stopped the progression even with the errors in reporting. AI will face hard time but businesses will win eventually.

[@TheEcono]

As an impoverished veteran I have to admit chat GP has been extremely helpful in finding scarce resources.

[@ddpwe5269]

You'll never ban AI or stop people from using it. Recognizing when people use the tool, but then choose NOT to make it their own will be the issue.

[@ninreck5121]

I'm autistic and I used ChatGPT for my most recent term papers, not to write the whole thing for me or anything like that but, for example, to summarize long texts for me so I could see if they included the information I needed to cite in my paper. Usually, reading these texts takes me ages because my neurodivergence simply does not equip me qith a long enough attention span, but having AI transform every paragraph into two or three sentences so I can see if I even need to read the whole thing helps a lot. It also helps by simply transforming academic language into more easily understandable sentences which has saved me from quite a number of extreme headaches

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

This actually feels like a better use of the tool. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people are not interested in using it for this, and would rather just not do the work.

[@jdmchoes92]

If teachers and professors actually challenged and engaged students instead of making them regurgitate answers based upon appeals to authority we wouldn't be largely having this problem now. wed be more well prepared

[@jacobcrenshaw9319]

I've spent twenty-five years of my life struggling to keep focus and find purpose but chatGPT helped me reach the conclusion of who I really am and helped me realize I have ASD. And I'm thankful to every person before me bc I was always to scared to take time to ask a simple question. Always nervous and unable to speak or breathe. It was hard for that me then, but now with perspective on life and time to reminisce as well as focus more on the moment

[@czarate21]

It’s about thinking, for one’s self, that is what writing an essay is all about. Calculators are fine, but you should be able to do basic math without the need for one.

[@sr2291]

It doesn't matter if you use a calculator for math because in most math, you have to show proof of how you came to the answer.

[@niv8880]

​@@sr2291 You can (and always should) ask ChatGPT to cite references. It gets things very wrong still and can destroy your reputation. As a techie, I spent 4 hours the other day trying to get some software to work, ChatGPT wasted my whole morning - I had to go to a human on stackoverflow in the end to a working solution. Where it works for me in my job is getting minutes from meeting transcripts (carefully and first removing names/products etc), helping me design software solutions (with the occasional exception), write content for technical papers and determine if so-called product SMEs know their product as well as they think.

[@calvinsmyth]

@@sr2291 Democrat/woke based schools are doing away with having to provide proof. Kids in Flint, MI are being passed along from grade to grade not able to read, write, or do simple arithmetic Case in point about math skills. In 6th grade, many are unable to count to 1000K. They count to 199 then say 1000.

[@GrayLemons]

In the same way it would be laughable to watch someone doing math by hand when machines do it better and faster than a human. At some future time it will inspire laughter to see people doing anything without the assistance of an AI. Is it terrifying? Kind of! The keyboard I'm using uses AI to try to correct how I write and predict what words to use. Some people don't even realize that's what's happening while they write. It's just a keyboard app yet we are already unwittingly using AI each day.

[@niv8880]

I think it is more than that. Do you need to know how the calculator works to use it? Critically AI is a tool in a toolbox, to some extent the Swiss army knife for seeking knowledge to solve problems but you need to know how to use it properly - this is the skill to be developed. If you keep going back to grass roots basics, you'll never have time to stand on the shoulders of AI and do something great. In the future, the divide will come: we'll know a robot can whittle some arts and crafts thing better than any human but (i) it won't be the same and (ii) do we really want AI to achieve everything? Great if it does work and pays taxes to keep us all but humans exist as social animals, AI can backfill the mundane, it can keep us healthy but we need to maintain our abilities to do our own things.

[@fusionhypnotic]

Chatgtp is incredibly helpful for students. Not talking about for cheating but for understanding complex questions. You can ask basically anything you don’t understand and you get a solid answer pretty quickly

[@frenkihajdari7736]

are u serious with that?😂

[@traxit6207]

True

[@ddpwe5269]

but do you KNOW that answer is actually RIGHT? Considering how confident it is with the information it gives you, including false info, you still need to double-check it. It's a great tool, but definitely not perfect, yet.

[@sr2291]

ChatGPT makes things up.

[@nimpsonkinkson1924]

​@@sr2291It doesnt totally make things up but the answers it give can be heavily generalized

[@Mrt1e]

I agree as a student, there are also some of my classmates that uses chatgpt for cheating but accept this for hard and complex question it helps me very much (especially writing essays).

[@JW99736]

I think at this point students are going to use it whether anyone “lets” them or not…

[@jakebunker4377]

My college professor actually allows us to use ChatGPT for all assignments in his class if we want. While its not always spot on its pretty useful, and quite honestly outside of being a student and actually learning stuff on my own there really isnt a reason to avoid it if you need help. Very interesting stuff.

[@atandretavares]

actually i am sorry but must disagree, the reason to avoid it is the known "GPT alucination" factor, or missinformation. would be same as learn from facebook, where can see that an Engine, if use reverse Cicle turns to a generator....Never. but if that is your study platform, you will live in... some other fantasy world, not the 3rd rock from sun. you will have GPT world information, or social world information, that is different from Real Life and Real World Information.

[@digitaldrz]

Ask the student to complete a paper using AI. That becomes their baseline. How much better can they do with real intelligence? AI is not a crutch. It is a challenge. Let the student ask the AI to evaluate the work. It can guide teachers in this

[@MVPTS-fj7ru]

Amen! It is time we embrace the technology and learn how to use it within the learning environments.

[@unvaccinatedAndPureBlood]

If I had my way, kids should never have any technology in the classroom until they have proven themselves independent thinkers.

[@TnTara33]

I have learned more from using ChatGPT this year than I could have ever imagined. I use it to help me to teach my kids concepts they are struggling with. It has changed the course of our lives in more ways than I can describe. I am here for it.

[@mollymaguire1391]

Tell us specifically why, how, please.

[@TnTara33]

​@@mollymaguire1391 I don't know if I could explain it all in a comment. Quality of life has improved massively since I started using GPT as my main search for answers regarding things I have been wanting to learn in life. I used it to learn more about business and SEO, home repair, parenting, parenting kids with special needs, how to handle my own mental health, how to grow my income, how to build things - it gave me legit detailed building plans for items that I would otherwise have had to pay for the building plans - even gave me a cut list and materials list for the things I am working on building. It has helped me get more organized in my life. I could go on. And I should have used it to write this comment. I look at life as if I am not quite doing things right. I ask for advice from people around me and sometimes I get some good responses. But mix the desire to better your life and grow with ChatGPT as the main search hub and assistant and you might be surprised what you can achieve, The main point is, willpower and drive to live what you learn from people and AI are what helped bring about these changes in my life. ChatGPT just helped me get the information faster and easier and without judgement from others.

[@AlexanderOlinger]

I told it to explain general relativity in a simple manner that kindergartener could understand it.

[@LongdistanceRider22]

Let’s support this… I remember going to the university library. I’m pulling up old test to study.

[@sotiriakoui456]

I am all for technology at schools, but I don’t like that the past decade, educators and school admins jump on the ‘progression bandwagon’ without evidence that students actually learn better theough technology. In the States, they got rid of hard copy books, replaced paper and pencil with tablets, gamifying learning without research and proof that this actually works better with kids and doesn’t cause lack of focus, problems with memory, or is suitable for all learning styles. I don’t mean that we need to go back to Victorian times of schooling or that we have to get rid of technology. What I am saying is that technology is just a tool, not the panacea for all problems, and we shouldn’t throw the baby (traditional style of teaching) out with the bath water because we found a more flashy toy. Learning how to write a paper has much value in our life because it makes you a critical thinker, and makes you aware of the power of the words. We cannot leave this to technology.

[@fieldswell]

Brilliant article. Great listen and very relevant as a clinical psychology master's student

[@kris8606]

I use ChatGPT to write essay outlines. I’m autistic and struggle to put my thoughts in order, especially with essays. I give my thesis, say what kind of essay, say how many sources i’m using, and it helps me put what I want to say in order.

[@priyajitkarmakar3296]

Really enjoyed this knowledgeable session

[@tucsongreg1684]

Bravo! Thank you so much for your presentation! :)

[@TheAzachiel]

Awesome! Hopefully so much needed reform of education system comes soon.

[@chetanrawatji]

Thank You ❤

[@sarvakiruthikaaruldass2245]

It’s a nice talk, I agree with what you are saying. But I had a Question- If the students start using AI during their school life where they actually should learn the basics…will they be able to face some real-life problems?... And if there is some natural calamity or any such kind of situation where he or she can’t use either AI or the Internet but has some deadline…how they will face this situation in the future (I meant only the future students)?

[@ddpwe5269]

I really wish I had a teacher like this in my high school English glasses, I think I would have learned a LOT more and not needed to take summer school every year! Yay, for having ADHD/ASD!

[@Azel247]

Essays always felt like a major time sink to me. I mean, the hours we put into figuring out how to express our thoughts on paper is just mind-boggling. Nobody speaks the way they write! Writing is fundamentally about communication, and if AI can help us enhance our written communication, it's worth a shot, don't you think? Perhaps it's time we shift our focus towards honing our speaking skills instead of dedicating so much time to writing. - Written by ChatGPT

[@nun-chan9433]

You are great. Your talk is decisive/final. We can be free from the debate about chatGPT and save a huge amount of time. It would be taken for granted that you would've been somewhat helped by your most reliable friend, right?

[@AashishKishnani]

😂 right

[@nun-chan9433]

@@AashishKishnani You might be a mentor of her, right?

[@macdisciple]

Of course we should. A couple of centuries ago we allowed them to use books to support their learning. We must continue to adapt to technology from the printing press to AI. As educators it’s our job to figure out how to use it because it WILL become mainstream.

[@nimpsonkinkson1924]

it's only becoming mainstream because of how clueless people are

[@r_qo21]

An Iraqi student passed by here, studying and working at home. Pray for me to succeed

[@amarpathshala-7058]

plz use subtitle. Watching this video not only for motivate but also I try to improve my English.

[@nmkone2207]

It is not anyone's role to decide whether individuals can or cannot use AI. The real question is whether new methods of testing comprehension and application of concepts should be adapted. AI is simply a tool, and students should only need to demonstrate their understanding.

[@No.1Rocking_Beauchamps]

Amazing😊

[@missyprissyable]

It’s a tool. In order to utilize it efficiently and effectively one must first understand the basic concept of the outcome in order to evaluate it. So, yes. Students must know how to think critically and write well. Now, here is the real question. Will students learn more from AI than from the average English teacher who doesn’t even have an English degree?

[@Srindal4657]

Yes. Next question.

[@kingofelectric8511]

Mam your voice is just like Ielts exam listening 😅

[@LongdistanceRider22]

Consider it a resource

[@zainulabdeen7154]

Essay writing should be converted into public speaking . Most of the student lack this skills , which is somehow necessary in today's world to express our views

[@QANews]

_Yes._

[@soniacgc9184]

Brilliant

[@brenolad]

Very romantic, but this could all change with copyright laws overnight.

[@Rachnaknowledgehub]

I am amazed ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊😊

[@Semper_Iratus]

How about. No.

[@jls72]

We must keep up, and learn ways to use for good ! I agree with this, if we immediately ban or block this technology, children will try to use and work around it. Embrace it ! See what good it can do.

[@niv8880]

You'll not put the genie back in the bottle. I, like so many, have already downloads source codes, I can build a corpus of data from the Internet - just in case my government decides to ban it. It will end up on the dark web it any jurisdiction tries to stop it. Use it sensibly: certainly don't let Microsoft's AI read your Intellectual Property unless you want them to own you.

[@brickdabrick]

It’s funny that they don’t have to think for themselves anymore. Ai is dangerous…

[@mansoorahmad2803]

Apsy ijazat mangi kiss ne hai use karni ki?

[@meow3343]

The issue here is some educators can't accept the fact that learning this day is different and can be called way easier. Some of them forcefully make the students cling to the traditional way of learning(books). Of course students will be more willing to learn things they are interested in, instead of writing an essay about how roman Empire collapse which never really help me in my life and I'm not even a descendant of Romans. I agree that educators should be more into giving students activities not having them write 3 pages of essay about something never interests them. And also for students like me, even tho we have given a very valuable and a very quality of life tool. We should still open a path for our improvement instead of heavily relying with the help of AI. Using it when we are given an inhumane number of activities are reasonable. But using it just for the sake of your laziness could turn your life to the bottom.

[@CSS_Dream]

❤❤

[@sabakyaw8312]

Using chatgpt doesn't mean cheating. If we don't like them to do so, there is always a way to assess.

[@22Dhk]

Hi there, is there any teacher here and watch it?

[@intoconjunctions]

She thinks getting a machine to transform Romeo and Juliette into a telenovella is a fabulous idea

[@LoyalCreationTFE-qw3nt]

❤

[@4N7H6NY]

JOKES ON YOU TEACHERS, THEY'LL HAVE AI ROBOTS TEACHING CHILDREN VIA VR HEADSETS

[@cherub2777]

I am using AI in my college level courses this semester and encouraging students to use it to problem solve in healthcare education. If you are old enough to remember when both the internet and Google first emerged, everyone thought it would ruin education. It did not, it enhanced it when used correctly and effectively to enhance student learning. So, too, will AI platforms.

[@pepper419]

The thing we still have to do is think and understand. It can be easy to get mother to write a letter for you, but do you understand what she's writing?😏

[@bronxbombers1302]

Absolutely not If AI was actually correct and unbiased maybe But that’s not the case

[@diegotr1903]

AI is unreliable. The answer is what the AI mentors and gurus want it to give to you. Look at wikipedia when it comes to politics. Total bias

[@jakebunker4377]

It's kind of like any other source, just because it's in a book or on the internet doesn't mean it's true or unbiased either. But yeah things definitely need to change with AI like ChatGPT and you should never put eggs in one basket. Get verification from other places.

[@HakuCell]

the answer is yes, we should embrace ai and make studying easier.

[@nimpsonkinkson1924]

No, old man

[@macdisciple]

What does that look like? Studying, yes. But how can educators assess how well it is used for studying IF students submit it as their own work. You say “yes@ but you offer no explanation.

[@nimpsonkinkson1924]

Studying has never been easier, students have literal access to the internet, they can easily look up articles, research papers, pdfs of books, YT tutorials, and other learning resources.

[@sr2291]

​@@macdiscipleHow do teachers know that students didn't just copy their work from a book?

[@volta2aire]

We are already too reliant on technology. In a face-to-face interview, your student may not be able to think on his or her feet. If the company or government security does not allow electronics to enter its offices from outside, your student will have his first real test.

[@thecunninlynguist]

wish i had something like it as a student 😂

[@niv8880]

I think you have to ride the AI wave rather than let it hit you like a tsunami. You might get away with not using it as e.g. a dentist or nurse in the present but I'm seeing governments have a lot of dead wood working for them in roles that could better serve the public with an AI bot - certainly in justice and local councils in the UK where a lot of them want to take the paycheque at the end of the month but not put in the effort.

[@OrganicGreens]

This will be like asking should we let students use books and the internet in the near future. Anyone who doesn't learn how to use and work with AI will be as ineffective as your grandma who can't use a computer.

[@mikhuber]

1:56 This is wrong. It does not learn over time. For it to learn, a new model has to be trained, possibly on a larger corpus of data. A model like GPT-4 (the P in the name says it - PREtrained) just exists, might get finetuned here and there, but does not learn anything immediately from a conversation.

[@SueMarshallprice-iz2fg]

Wow! that's to bad!!!!

[@fattikhan9510]

Our teachers also use GPT to make exam papers for us 😅😅

[@r_qo21]

I study and forget

[@shekudaboh8982]

Africa will understand this after 100 years 🥸🥸

[@carolinepaul9057]

Not necessarily - if you read the books of any luminaries in AI and tech. You will understand that some of the economies that will greatly benefit from technological advances are those in the most need to solutions to their problems and who choose to use technology as a tool to curate solutions to their problems. Think innovation. That points to emerging markets. Think China, India and Africa. They will benefit the most. The only exception to this is Japan because of their aging population - they will innovate the most in Robotics to counter this. Technology and data are the great leveraging tools to such markets because of the dire need for it.

[@Mhvillage101]

Gpt is helpful for students 1️⃣❣️

[@mel16156166]

Correct

[@tmoneyot]

i mean i definiety understand using AI as a tool for getting answer but lets be for real students are not using it for the right reasons. I have watched people geting A and 100% by doing no work

[@Daniel-ynuhnunu]

😊

[@pepper419]

If we were kept from the future, we'd all still be walking and throwing spears to survive. I'm seventy-two, never learned about computerization and mobile phones at school, and feel terribly backward now. We can't afford to keep the future from the present.

[@JulienBasto-sc6dn]

In era of chatgpt bye writting test and welcome oral test. Sorry students.

[@gopiyadav2645]

Hindi took gpt

[@user-yc2ut8ro1v]

Student use chatgpt AI halp

[@Real_Michael_Jordan]

Should we let student know that an information revolution took place and you don't need to pay- let alone a fortune- for all knowledge now?

[@gopiyadav2645]

Mam ham Indian hai Hindi mein kaise

[@niv8880]

ChatGPT: Namaste! Aap Hindi mein baat karna chahte hain, koi problem nahi. Aap mujhse kuch bhi puch sakte hain, main aapki madad karne ke liye yahan hoon. Aapko kis prakar ki jaankari chahiye?

[@TENetworkNg]

The teacher's are selfish. If you get support from AI, and add your individuality to it, they still get upset.

[@rs73adityapawar89]

Yes, ChatGPT is Incredibly Helpful for Students, Recently I heard A New ChatGPT helps A Student To Score 94% 3 day's before Exam

[@traxit6207]

Yea

[@sanchalisarkar8008]

How so could u explain by giving an example?

[@rs73adityapawar89]

@@sanchalisarkar8008 Because I have been using it since 5 months, and it gives easy understanding of bad and bad topics. Ex. Please encourage me to understand this topic like a 10 year old. Then he will give you easy understanding of complex things. This is how my productivity has improved. Isiliye Pehle Istemal Karo Fir Vishwas kro...😇