Should We Scrap the NHS to Save Lives?

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Evelyn C. Sanders

[@lucylucy6174]

Most people haven’t experienced different healthcare systems. As someone who has lived in the EU, the US and the U.K. i believe the NHS is great and should never be abolished.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

I can tell you the NHS isn't the best. It has worst outcomes than comparable countries.

[@taffyterrier]

NHS doctors are among the highest paid in Europe but provide one of the worst services in Europe. British taxpayers are getting poor value for money.

[@princessa3399]

I have lived in several European Union nations. I can tell you for free! Scrapping the NHS would be a disastrous mistake.

[@taffyterrier]

@@princessa3399 It is well documented that the UK boasts the lowest cancer survival rate in Europe thanks to our “wonderful” NHS which people such as yourself believe is “the envy of the world”.

[@taffyterrier]

@@princessa3399 … even though the UK boasts the lowest cancer survival rate in Europe?

[@Kellyr555]

These people need to try living on minimum wage.

[@deloreswstewart2513]

Why would you want to scrap the NHS ? Really!

[@ZzzZzz968]

Because it’s a failing model that’s haemorrhaging money

[@rahulshah3517]

Because it’s diabolical

[@nikw1611]

Because it is a failing system if you could class it as that it becomes a dictatorship where lives have been lost due to them so I think that sums it up

[@AshMundo]

This woman's an right wing shill who wants everything privatised.

[@geniemarie7977]

But we know the plsnn

[@lizstubbs2969]

Definitely not this country needs the NHS it needs reform but not scrapping ❤ but the government wants it gone this has been their aim for a long time 😢people will die if we have to pay because we won't be able to afford it

[@TheLukeLambert]

Agreed with you completely for the most part! Would say that we can definitely pay for it, this country is dripping with money, just has to be directed in the right fashion. London has never been richer, also never more unequal in modern times, it's all about distribution :)

[@lizstubbs2969]

@@TheLukeLambert totally agree, what I mean with the bit about not being able to afford it is if individual people end up having to fund their own private healthcare

[@fredatlas4396]

That's the tories that want it gone

[@fredatlas4396]

That's the tories that want it gone

[@fredatlas4396]

That's the tories that want it gone

[@HungryOctopus]

Kate needs to shut up and let the dr speak!

[@jamiewatchorn7639]

Yet there’s £50bn for Ukraine and £9bn for union payrises. The issue isn’t there’s no money, the issue is they don’t want to invest in reforming it

[@robincollins8215]

So GMB is now shilling for the private health industry .. figures!

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

GMB = GBNewts

[@MichaelFriday-w2n]

Absolutely scrap it. A total waste of time and money.

[@wickerbathtub3183]

Trusting insurance companies is considerably more risky than trusting a government. Insurance companies exist to bolster their bottom lines at all costs. Watch all kinds of drugs and procedures stop being covered.

[@athomewiththeandersons231]

We already pay national insurance so why should we have to pay more money

[@anonymoushuman8962]

Tthe government should reduce the taxes you pay when the NHs is dissolved and you can be free to use that money to purchase a private insurance policy. It’s works.

[@Jonny-w3w]

& the vat we pay on everyday products

[@aion5837]

@@anonymoushuman8962 Who does it work for? How can a health system that's about profits for shareholders be cheaper than one that isn't? Prices vary for cover and some people will be refused. I hope you have a house to sell if you become seriously ill. It's the 'better' American way. How many Americans die because they don't have cover? It's millions.

[@anonymoushuman8962]

@@aion5837 It could be regulated by the government as are current private healthcare policies in the uk. No one is advocating for a full free market type healthcare system. I feel like I should be able to purchase a policy that fits my needs free from government healthcare. Currently we are essentially held ransom by government interference I.e. the doctors and healthcare professionals are actually paid by the government. The problem is that because of this these healthcare professionals have the ability to withdraw their services by the way of strikes when they are not satisfied with the conditions. It’s almost impossible to see a GP. It’s impossible to see a specialist. Access is absolutely terrible and to be frank unacceptable The NHs and the government are literally playing with people’s livesThis model is just not working. We pay so much tax for the NHs. More and more money is being poured into the NHs with worse outcomes. This has to be stopped. I have had personal experience with a fee market healthcare system in Malaysia and it’s far superior than the uk. It’s a well priced private healthcare system. Access is almost instantaneous and it’s effective. The NHs is too big for its own good and its outcomes are extremely poor.

[@barbarajones9385]

@aion You are free to take out private health care insurance.

[@mikeallison7753]

And here is today’s right wing grifter

[@hakc97again]

Why do you get these toxic guests on?

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

there must be a sign up sheet at GBnewts Phillips then there's Andrew Pierce who's a regular

[@Robert-cu9bm]

So it's not a bubble.

[@hakc97again]

@@Robert-cu9bm It is a right wing bubble

[@amxst1819]

It was a really good debate said Kate so why rush it and cut people short? Oh I know why, this 3 and half hour show can’t spear another 5 minutes, but can have hours of completions and andi friggen peters. This is why traditional media is dying

[@LolaKatros-mf6ti]

We all get that the NHS is struggling for many reasons. What doesn't help are discussions based on only 30% of the population think. All of whom are able to pay for private health care. I've gone private for my mental health and let me tell you I wish I just waited on the NHS because the private company I used closed due to financial issues. Private is way less secure, I want our NHS to do well and allow the amazing people within it who do save and help people's lives.

[@NoraShaheen-k5i]

Maybe less money on weapons and war and more into health care just sayingb

[@Tom_murray89]

No without the NHS I wouldn’t be here in the next week I’m due to have surgery on the NHS from a top surgeon I dread to think how much I’d have to pay privately. With an insurance system how are people with existing medical conditions going to access the care

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Have you been to other countries?... Australia has a better health system and it's for all.

[@barbarajones9385]

@you still pay a lot out of pocket in Australia fir many services eg colonoscopy, x-rays.

[@izziemoss8262]

Sorry, why abolish NHS? Health care should be a right.

[@davidharris3264]

So is looking after yourself a right

[@MW-ml5eq]

Didn’t you listen?

[@Robert-cu9bm]

Nope because it costs money. if it's a right a right for who... Citizens, tourists, the world?

[@barbarajones9385]

@robert For taxpayers and citizens. Society as a whole is better off with a healthy population. This might involve some people getting something free but overall it is a good long-term investment. The NHS has been badly neglected but the model itself is viable.

[@Abdul_Rahman86]

Give tax relief to people who choose private health insurance.

[@goodmusicneverdies1998]

Let's play spot the difference between GMB & GB NEWS! 🤨

[@mikeallison7753]

You came can you

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

true there's regular Andrew Pierce, now Alex Phillips also the Frogage is a fixture?

[@michael7286]

The NHS should never be scrapped !!

[@doubleana9184]

Certain rich people will say ambolish the nhs due to their affordability but for poorer people, they cant afford it

[@TinTin01234]

I think it should be similar to Germany. Where great private (cheaper than most is available for those who work and can afford it) but also those who can't afford it and need help have free health care. It'll be the same Dr's, hospitals etc.

[@barbarajones9385]

@tintin If it's the same hospitals, same doctors etc, what is the difference? Faster service, less time spent on consultation? There has to be a difference or why would people choose to pay? My guess is that the rich get a better service, the poor an inferior one. Is that how UK wants health care to be administered? The wealthy are treated better, the poor are given 2nd class treatment?

[@TinTin01234]

@@barbarajones9385 oh no, it's not like that. If you work your work pay towards your health insurance, if you're self employed you pay for it, and if you not working, have a disability the goverment then pay for it. It sounds similar to what we do, but more money is given. Everyone is treated equally, we have to stop blaming the rich for things. You do, like here have the choice to pay private healthcare.

[@MW-ml5eq]

Everyone would be richer. You’d pay less tax and a tiny insurance each month. Wake up.

[@barbarajones9385]

@MW How would you be richer if everyone pays both taxes and insurance? What's to stop insurance companies increasing their prices until they reach American heights? What about people without sufficient income to buy insurance?

[@shauncraigparkinson8165]

GMB, loosing it's way.

[@alice1374]

Scrapping the NHS would be the worst decision ever. It would cost thousands of lives by doing it. Yes, it's not good in the current form, but it SHOULD NOT BE SCRAPPED.

[@davidcooks2379]

In Soviet Union they had bread and clothes production by the state. They always had shortages of both. Privatisation and choice create abundance, and through abundance lower prices.

[@cricketylife8742]

You have to consider the other side. Privatisation also means a tendency to administer treatments (pills/procedures/surgeries) which offer no (or very little) clinical benefit to the patients.

[@jonmelmore8096]

2:43 Alex Phillips was a Brexit Party (Now Reform) MEP so she got the insurance paid for her by the tax payer on top of her salary. She is a Brexiteer whose entire grift caused a mass exodus of NHS staff and made skilled EU citizens no longer want to come and work in it. I’d trust Dr. Narpal’s views as someone who works in the system more than a GBN “broadcaster”

[@------------Naheed------------]

she is worse than a GBN broadcaster. she is a talk tv broadcaster.

[@hakc97again]

@@------------Naheed------------ GBN is worse I think

[@mjl2904]

Did she not also say she resides in Belgium and had ankle surgery in Belgium. If Brexit was so great why don’t you live here and pay for private treatment here

[@jonmelmore8096]

@@mjl2904 1:18 She did say she was (past tense) a resident of Belgium but it does show her hypocrisy.

[@jackieo8235]

That’s because you like propaganda, wake up !!!

[@phoenixreborn6065]

But if the NHS was scrapped who would we narcissistically clap for to show how virtuous and wonderful we are?

[@UsmanX]

Seriously ITV? The Institute of Economic Affairs is a libertarian think tank, of course the report is going to conclude to privatise healthcare, the discussion on this panel is the American system. What is this propaganda?

[@videomajic]

We did have an insurance deducted from our wages, which was introduced in 1948. Its was called National Insurance - the clue is in the name!

[@kevinmcmanus1986]

Dont scrap the nhs

[@Paragon62]

Scrap this poor system still waiting to be seen 18months it’s me Gary ex bt

[@MitchCyan]

I think if I had to pay for healthcare I would just let myself die.

[@conorspence5332]

Alex Philips is one of the most despicable people around, even by Talk TV standards

[@user-ca3sp7er1h]

The nhs must not be scrapped under any circumstances it is for the people

[@inbb510]

NHS is not the world's envy. The European model is far better and far more sustainable as a system.

[@philipjohnkaye8890]

Alex= ego and no common sense.

[@sbalmer132]

The European health care is far superior to ours and we should now reform our heath care and go in their direction.Most of us are very sick of being let down by an overstretched NHS which forever cries lack of money while there is a proliferation of managers on high salaries.The present NHS model is not fit for purpose.

[@jackcraig837]

Says the lady who gets treatment in Belgium 😮

[@dds94]

To many people not enough beds and docs, but that’s racist to say 👀

[@janetholden1978]

The NHS is struggling because it's treating people who aren't entitled to use it. Too many managers paid to have meetings. If you go along the private route there are always people who can't afford it and health conditions they won't pay out for.

[@JD-mf9zm]

How do people without a large disposable income fund or pay for treatment when they get sick.

[@teoleno4019]

You don't. You pray you can go abroad for medical services or suffer.

[@iansilk1836]

We will always adopt the USA health care system, where 40% have no healthcare cover or only partial cover. This is never disclosed!

[@elliottmccarthy4874]

looking after the flowers, nice. :)

[@Med-lv9fq]

Agree with Alex, the quality of healthcare in the UK low and those who really need it don’t get it, overstretched because of inappropriate use because it is free. Overstretched because of poor care hence patients keep needing several appointments to get their one problem sorted, a simple example in primary care: a patient is offered to see one these non-doctor health workers who are in theory only see minor coughs and cold but even simple cough and cold can be something more serious but this is another story but it is difficult to differentiate between a simple case and a complicated one, patients are individuals and not everyone fit in one box like these people are trained in their fast tracked 2 year training courses. Hence they deal with one issue or just request some unnecessary investigations because even a child can click things on a computer then the patient has to see a GP and they have to reassess the patient from the beginning and order different tests then see them again. 3 appointments and lots of unnecessary investigations hence waste time for resources multiply that by thousands. Partly this is how the hard earned tax payers money partly is wasted. And people who have paid taxes all their lives don’t get a good quality healthcare because of this

[@beadle111gaming]

The lie here which people need to wise up to is we aren't allowed to train more doctors because the BMA have completely blocked that at every turn and limited the numbers. The reason is simple, less doctors, more money per doctor. It's disgusting

[@anthonylloyd8000]

She needs replacing .

[@user-ca3sp7er1h]

The public should be allowed to vote on certain issues

[@lindawarner9627]

It's badly run, too many managers.

[@joshuaherbert2472]

Giving shareholders of a private NHS £BILLIONS Each year will not make it cheaper. Look at Water companies look at energy companies

[@Maksimszz]

The main issue here is investment, we as a nation the UK do not get enough investment compared to other countries, we have a so called ' *Rentier Capitalism* ' Model which focuses on investing in properties for personal gain rather than in businesses and in the state... If the FTSE returns were as high as the S&P 500 I Guarantee you that our economy will change from gloomy to Insanely good overnight.... I know this might not be a popular take at all, but I think if Investment was restricted to other countries through the form of a stocks and shares isa which in its current form applies to all stocks and all shares ----> to be changed to a stocks and shares ISA which can only be applied to a FTSE index, Guarantee this will deliver the same results (assuming people dont buy more properties instead)

[@joelchapman8622]

Im sick of people saying the USA model is private. Its the most manipulated and state regulated system on earth.

[@AJones-j9x]

ah yes, the angry lady

[@Robert-cu9bm]

That Dr is arguing for the NHS like someone arguing for communism... If only it was done right!. If only we had more bed, if only we had more hospitals etc. The system of the NHS is the reason for limited beds and infrastructure. Maybe the reason these other countries have more, is because the other systems work.

[@scottwales9178]

Anyone who voted tory the last 14 years should have literally no say on the NHS. Probably that woman. I'm not interested in her opinion.

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

she's ex-UKIP and Reform Plc fellow travelor

[@scottwales9178]

@@SimonSmith-yd6tt Even worse! Why are we giving her airtime?

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

@@scottwales9178 ££££$$$$$ kerching!!

[@jendrizzyy]

Labour isn't any better

[@Paragon62]

I never clapped once for what,holiday for 2yrs jokers.

[@davidadams8027]

Not sure I would trust an insurance company to deliver in my best interest. They would question any care given to maximise profits.

[@Robert-cu9bm]

It's a funny argument to say it's only because they have more beds and infrastructure Well sir what system caused then to have more beds.

[@bodizmoner2838]

Scilly woman

[@amandahunter4034]

Absolutely not. The NHS is one of Britain's few bright sparks. We already pay for it through NI contributions, and there are also options to pay for some treatments. Taxing wealthy people and big corporations is the way forward, not increasing taxes and relying on medical insurance. I've lived in a country that only had private insurance, and you don't get treatment unless you can pay. State free clinics are staffed by volunteers and only offer very basic care eg over the counter pain killers and stitches.

[@EmM-ko7mu]

private health care would cost me less than what i pay in IN per year and id actually get care without a decade waiting lists

[@pierzing.glint1sh76]

U can abolish it but if you do, you must cut our taxes too so that we can pay for insurance according to our medical own needs There's no way we're paying as much taxes as we do AND not have a free health service either

[@jerome_morrow]

Yes, we should. And I’ve been an NHS consultant surgeon for 15yrs. Also, if you haven’t been a tax payer for at least 5 years, your opinion on the NHS is meaningless.

[@MarcLudford]

I CANT FIND A NHS DENTIST AND TRIED FINDING ONE NOW FOR FOUR YEARS

[@potentiallypotent420]

Anyone over 80k a year shouldn’t be allowed to use it, let’s face facts.

[@deloreswstewart2513]

Who is she really?

[@SimonSmith-yd6tt]

ex-Brexit Party MEP and GBNewts presenter

[@jeniferdevlin6914]

We don’t fund the NHS through taxation. Suggest you invite Richard Murphy, Steve Keen or Mariana Mazzucato on to your show to explain how we can spend more on the NHS without raising taxes or defunding other government departments.

[@georgewright9914]

The NHS should be scrapped along with the Civil Servants being reduced significantly, Paying a high rate of tax for no benefit & improvement to public services. I'd rather have a lower rate of tax & pay to use private hospitals

[@mjl2904]

Why is it that all these prominent Brexiters or UKIP/Reform/ Reclaim whatever they want to call themselves party members never live in the UK? 😂

[@teoleno4019]

Anglo exceptionalism.

[@BrickHouseMM]

Yeah give money to a insurance company because all the money would then go to NHS.

[@jujutrini8412]

People who can afford it do already pay for private insurance. Has Good Morning Britain never heard of BUPA?

[@kappaslapper14]

Yea all our private run services in UK all work just fine lol

[@richardchapman842]

NHS save's live's crazy to scrap it

[@aspman8965]

Yes

[@dvz19777]

There's 33 million people working in the UK. The average salary is 34k. If we take £20 quid a month from everyone that's £660,000,000. Don't take it every month. Maybe every 3 months. Then they get refunded sporadically in groups. 4% earn over 100k maybe take £50 from them. That'll generate a bit of doe to do some stuff.

[@Thegreyreaperuk]

This would end up being total privatisation straight out of the Tory handbook.

[@clarkiiboii09]

One of the problems with the NHS is the amount of money being wasted. Paying over £100 for a packet of paracetamol which you can get in Boots for under £1.

[@charlievarley]

Citation please. Where and when did this happen? I'm sure there is waste but...

[@Robert-cu9bm]

​@@charlievarley They use one then throw the rest away for hygiene reasons

[@charlievarley]

@@Robert-cu9bm again citation. Where are you getting this from?

[@barbarajones9385]

@clark Who pays £100 for paracetamol? Nobody.

[@chrisgeorgiou46]

Misinformation like this is going to lead to the dissolution of our NHS. Brexit 2.0, walking into disaster.

[@danmartin886]

We already have a payment that comes out of our wages for healthcare. It’s called national insurance

[@Broomfondle1]

For someone who hates the EU with a passion certainty bangs on about how she feels EU countries have a better health care system then Britain. Maybe Jess Phillips shouldn't have been so hasty in pushing for the UK to leave the EU then she'd have a better argument.

[@Shanua23]

Nhs has lots of problem but its still one of the precious thing we have. We have a patient who has been in hospital for a month despite of being medically fit cause his wife is on holiday. Where on earth would people get facilities like that lol😂

[@Wishing_you_peace]

Yes let us have more outsourced Easyjet style healthcare providers 😂

[@Thegreyreaperuk]

Kate garraway needs to stop interrupting.

[@Thegreyreaperuk]

1 in 5 take out private healthcare insurance my backside. Lots of people are given it as part of their pay package.

[@KittyinAnotherCity-qy1lu]

Wasn't she an MEP for the Brexshit party?

[@trevaudio]

Yes, for about five minutes….also spent time in Kenya working for Cambridge Analytica rigging elections

[@JoinTheTemple]

Of course we should. Socialised healthcare is not good.

[@andrewsvard9222]

Switzerland has great, and overall better, healthcare but it's pricey

[@pamelagreen7380]

Why would you, yet again they’re hitting the poorest people. We also pay national insurance so why should you scrap it. It needs help not getting rid of it. Do not understand the logic behind this nonsense.

[@JupiterThunder]

"The NHS is a simple-to-understand system" - yeah, you pay 40% tax and get no treatment. Simple.

[@nnanyelugoanekwe218]

Alex probably thinking how she could spin this into an immigration debate.

[@barbarajones9385]

This programme is turning righter and righter and righter by the hour.

[@jacksoncrate]

Nhs should be banned along with laughter

[@phillipearmstrong5510]

An reform say this is the best country in the world 😂 not ! So in the EU thay do things better!

[@einstein6239]

Alex needs to go to a private dentist to sort her teeth out

[@LaraandJess]

let the dr speak

[@alexhaynes7220]

No

[@Maria-jz7rl]

How about: Tax the super wealthy more. Pay doctors and nurses properly. Done!

[@andymac7277]

My ex sacked someone as they posted on FB ablolish the NHS

[@Emily-ck7zf]

NHS is our British traditions Alex is sticking with Trumps views .. Not all can afford to travels , Life and death is saved with the NHS .

[@peeg09]

Is she a Brexiteer? I saw her on TalkTV when it existed.

[@teoleno4019]

Why the f is a resident in Belgium then? 😒

[@peeg09]

@@teoleno4019 baffling

[@maryduffy2036]

Set up in 1948, fast forward to 2024. 🤔

[@LuffyDaGoat]

Alex is fine af

[@dionnepatrick2431]

Replace it with any other model other than the American one.

[@teoleno4019]

Let them have the American model. It will be fun to watch.

[@dionnepatrick2431]

@@teoleno4019 🤣😂🤣

[@Steve_the_lion1075]

How can the NHS be free if its paid for by tax payers?

[@barbarajones9385]

@steve Correct description: Tax-payer funded, free at point of use.

[@Steve_the_lion1075]

@@barbarajones9385 Well it should be free, if the tax payer pays for it.