Should you buy a $50 CPU??

[@LinusTechTips]

Use code LINUS and get 25% off GlassWire at lmg.gg/glasswire

[@wizzfizz69]

ok boomer.....

[@s_apienza]

ye ok boomer

[@TechnoLadz]

That’s not your sponsor of the day lmao

[@azimpetra]

So..are we gonna get a new Secret Shopper like you guys did with iBuyPower, Origin, etc.

[@TheXlen]

Linus I thought better of you, so many mistakes on a one Athlon build...

[@LowSpecGamer]

Linus. Linus... I love you man but... We need to talk about your standards for comparisons here. Over 100 FPS and it just "fine"? And single channel? While running integrated GPU?!

[@patrickc888]

It's El Cheapo's mistake, again. ;) And this time you're not there to fix it. :( EDIT: Is That You, LowSpecGamer, Alex???

[@Unit27]

[LowSpecGamer intensifies]

[@uzimyspecial]

It's not even that more expensive to get dual channel kit compared to one stick

[@TheRealFoxFire]

I was wondering when I would see you commenting on this video lol. I scrolled down just to find it!

[@jaredbarrios7950]

Yep, i get 100fps on a “better” system and was like “100 fps is fine? Really?” They even had the settings on high

[@ej_tech]

*Runs a Ryzen APU with single channel RAM* I could hear LowSpecGamer's screaching across the Atlantic.

[@lunchie80]

Yep. They fucked it up and also totally missed the point of the cpu. Plus you can massively OC the onboard GPU

[@TheBinklemNetwork]

Ahh, mennof culture

[@jojoba_24]

Guess I'm not the only one getting anxiety watching this

[@alphacompton]

I'm not too familiar with ideal AMD setups but I was under the impression memory was key to AMD at the moment due to some infinity weave thing. 2 sticks of ram can be affordable for a budget setup so he should have tried that.

[@FunkyM217]

Absolutely. Alex would make that 3000G absolutely perform. Like, totally.

[@arrowdynamlc]

3:56 "If you're gonna do it, do it smart" *Forgets dual-channel memory* Trust me, even at this budget tier it's worth the extra $5 for a 2x4 or even extra $25 for 2x8.

[@Voornaz]

Or the 74 dollars for 16gb 3600 16 cas latency Yes it's 74 dollars lol

[@MyNameIsBucket]

And then starts with max overclock.

[@Leggir]

No. Depending on the upgrade path, single channel may be preferable. A couple of years ago when ram prices were $100+ for an 8 GB stick, I built a budget gamer box for a guy who just lost his job. The mobo had 2 slots for RAM, so the choice was made for 1x8GB because he'd add more later. In testing between 2x4GB and 1x8GB, the performance difference in games was less than 10%. Blender was ~25% better in dual channel.

[@loaimohsen]

or $400 more for 3900x

[@marekbarycz4397]

@@Leggir Years ago i used SIMM memories... They tested it now and they used 4 RAM slot mobo. Also if You where that stupid to use mobo with only 2 slots then it is Your fault. You miss the point that Dual Channel gives massive boost for IGPU.

[@thomassouza1227]

"If you gonna do it, do it smart" puts a single memory on a APU...

[@twanvanderdonk2504]

He also explained why, he said you can easily upgrade it later, it is just to have a complete working system . If he included more ram (or even worse, 2x4gb sticks...), then it wouldn't be the lowest possible budget to get a running system that you can easily upgrade to be better a month after or so.

[@Heisenberg355]

@JozoK_TM he isn't haha. He commented

[@Strixeu]

@JozoK_TM Zdravím Slovensko :)

[@NewBoy0606]

@@twanvanderdonk2504 You say that as though he could not have tried both options.

[@sobanya_228]

He doesn't use it as APU, just CPU

[@sivadasrajan]

linus : 70fps thats playable me : anything above 13 fps is playabe

[@7Write4This9Heart7]

SAME! I was watching that 25 FPS like, "That's AWESOME, though?? Linus, what are you talking about?!" lol!

[@sivadasrajan]

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j i said "me",Not "Rest of world's population"

[@sivadasrajan]

@SeoulfredRay i highly agree

[@Knot_Sean]

I play games like war thunder on High and have an average FPS of 24, When I get mear the ground that drops too 13, Still damn well playable.

[@Windows98R]

Siva das 13 is not playable...I respect you for mastering it. I can’t bear anything below 45

[@supershad9855]

I can hear *LowSpecGamer Noises* at the fact that he's using single channel ram on Ryzen

[@uzimyspecial]

Not just ryzen, a ryzen Apu. Literally all modern igpus benefit from dual channel

[@marcusavron47]

Yeah, the fact that you can get dual sticks at roughly the same price as an equivalent capacity single stick blows his budget argument out of the water.

[@nodarimosia6825]

yup, my r5 3400g igpu performance literally doubled after i switched from 1x8gb 2400hz to 2x4gb 3200hz RAM. cpu performance not so much, about 15-20% but still damn great upgrade.

[@marcusavron47]

@@thelightsilent I have an intel everything. Laptop, desktop, and tablet. I'm intrigued by the AMD options and I feel like Linus misrepresented what this chip can do. ETA Prime has a great video on it.

[@sujimayne]

@@thelightsilent dont call me "commie" you commie

[@CyFr]

Dual channel memory would probably have made more of a difference.

[@Lukas9708]

You are absolutely right, kinda strange to me that linus forgot that

[@ArcBlaze]

LowSpecGamer rage insues

[@CyFr]

If you can even find 2 sticks of 4gb that would "still" do better than 1x 8gb

[@MultiYippee]

@@CyFr yes, that's what dual channel is

[@lunchie80]

@@Lukas9708 not strange to me. They've done it before.

[@facumou5445]

Linux: I would go for a Ryzen 5 3600 Me, an Argentinian: Oh sure, let me just... work 20 years til I can actually pay it!

[@Andres-ul9wo]

@caveman That is because of the taxes South America That tripple the cost of the product also Argentina suffer from a hight inflation in this moment

[@Andres-ul9wo]

caveman you can’t find easy but if you found it like sli of titan rtx

[@Pidrox]

@caveman Around 2000 dollars

[@bucket8967]

Pidrox good lord that is expensive

[@Pidrox]

@@bucket8967 If it sounds expensive for you,just imagine how wild the idea of buying one sounds like here lmao The only people with that level of pc hardware are millonaires or famous/sponsored people

[@SvDKILLSWITCH]

If you're going to do budget, do it smart. Get a motherboard with four memory slots and for all that is good in the world, don't run single channel memory.

[@jtlewis81]

...and still move the mouse pointer. Lol

[@madd5]

@@jtlewis81 BTW, I have that motherboard they are using. And was able to overclock my ryzen 1600 to 4100mhz. I mean, the motherboard itself is awesome.

[@nik0la263]

Yeah Alex being dumb ass. I suspect he prepared the video

[@MalePifko]

@@Herr.Mitternacht Yeah he strikes me as an ignorant hiding his lack of knowledge behind "smile number 5".

[@8lec_R]

This thread is fu****g toxic

[@michelvanbriemen3459]

"If you're gonna do this, do it smart" >single-channel memory No wonder the comments section is littered with smart advice.

[@martinivanov1319]

yeah, who the fuck uses only 1 memory stick even on intel

[@Kurumisama]

@@martinivanov1319 well for extremely short budgets, it makes sense, even if it's a bad practice, it's better than nothing

[@MrTheSmoon]

people that have little money and want an Upgradepath

@@Kurumisama - Extremely short budgets - $54 PSU - $150 GPU Pick one.

[@MrAetherGaming]

@@photonicpizza1466 it's not budget, it's upgradability

[@Dudae_]

"If you're going to do this, do it smart" So just go watched any LowSpecGamer video on this chip and you'll find things you never expected from this little beast

[@CaveyMoth]

Gotta bring out the tweaks.

[@SamuraiGuy]

gamers nexus already did one, too.

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

"Let's turn off polygon filling and lighting for the ultimate dark wireframe experience"

[@CaveyMoth]

@@dycedargselderbrother5353 I like that System Shock cyberspace aesthetic.

[@danielfatfingahs5649]

I'm thinking Ryzen 3 1200

[@o-manthehuman7867]

"I dont think faster memory is possible for a budget gaming rig" meanwhile I got a cheap set of 2666 ddr4 and oc to 3200 with no issues.

[@Straiferdt01]

How are those timings doe

[@xnaturell9189]

He didn't say possible, or at least he didn't mean it, he meant it's not realistic, who would have a 50$ cpu, with a 3200Mhz ram stick???

[@navy34950]

I mean, 16gb of ddr4 3200 can be like $50 on Newegg now

[@Ikxi]

2400 oced to 3000

[@UlzYT]

Rocking 2400 on 3200mhz lmao fully stable

[@AdamHoch1289]

"139 fps is fairly playable" smh. It's more than playable!!!

[@matejduchaj9828]

Yeah i like to lock everything on 60 and say that's pretty fucking playable

[@Kelocyde]

@@matejduchaj9828 60 looks like a slide-show to me now :(

[@imxrcuryy7869]

Paradox Shift same, I got so used to around 200

[@tacohammer7023]

@M D Nope it's just some people are used to higher refresh rates.

[@yuikonnu5079]

What do you mean 60fps only a slideshow? That's super smooth for me tho

[@stephaneduhamel7706]

The ultimate lesson here is: you need DUAL CHANNEL for zen-based APUs.

[@jamestor6700]

you also need a decent amount of ram capacity as the onboard graphics and the overall system will both rely on the ram

[@Violant3]

Yes, and also ram speed is important, he mentioned that high speeds aren't realistic for this system's goal, but I managed to get 3000mhz ram for my 3200G for a fairly good price here in brazil

[@MlordSlav]

Not even zen based cpus literally fuckin any cpu with igpu will need dual channel

[@voithia5164]

Linus: Do you think we forgot something? Athlon 3000G: Nahh *Dual Channel Memory: :((*

[@tzxazrael]

if you only have 2 ram slots and plan to upgrade later... buying a 2x4gb means throwing them out when you're ready to upgrade. it wasn't forgotten, it was a choice.

[@stephaneduhamel7706]

@@tzxazrael except the board used here has 4 slots, and i don't think anyone will use more than 8 Gb of memory with that chip anyways. Also dual channel is really important for ryzen, especially for APUs.

[@tzxazrael]

@@stephaneduhamel7706 it isn't. it makes a difference, yes. even a noticeable difference. but the chip isn't going to explode if you don't do it that way.

[@febrianadji5758]

@@tzxazrael how close it is until that "8GB is insufficient for gaming"? Remember that this build also using $50 CPU without any graphics card other than it's integrated if you're going super tight on budget and need new parts either for power efficiency or it's warranty. Upgrading the GPU will be more viable if all you're doing is just gaming than get yourself 16gb kit at this condition

[@Deadboy90]

@@febrianadji5758 I ran into my first instance of that happening just yesterday when playing VR. But I'm happily running 8GB in my rig and playing RDR2 maxed out.

[@vaibhavagarwal4637]

It is *literally* 10 dollars less than the Stealth Hoodie. Edit: Woah, I haven't got this many likes ever!

[@Aston3003]

He hates thing that are old let's just say that

[@beep6010]

ltT sTorE . cOm

[@TugAndThugComputing]

lttstore.com/

[@heavygaming6596]

100th like

[@vibeman2k2]

HTTPS://LTTSTORE.COM

[@Varradas]

"If you're gonna do it, do it smart" *_Proceeds to use one stick of ram_*

[@mael6513]

Yeah I don't really take his videos seriously.

[@bligward6609]

Bruh I wish this dude could ship me one of his old PC's the only gaming console I have is a PS3 so would be super epic

[@vadnegru]

@@bligward6609 go get some Xeons. X79 is cheap as hell because of ram, X99 is starts spinning. I built this system for 400$ (roughly) www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/23573051. Actualy rx470 was good enough, but i saw that sweet sweet used 580.

[@NazoFruciak]

I think the whole point of 1 stick of ram in this video was to show as budget option as possible with a room for upgrade in the future. Cheap motherboards can have only 2 slots for ram or there might be a problem with stability with 4 sticks. I think it's way better to buy 1x8gb and then later just buy anoter one instead of buying 2x4gb .

[@louiefriesen]

your comments are very popular.

[@badi1220]

"If you gonna do budget systems, do it smart" *Uses single channel memory on AMD APU

[@tzxazrael]

yea. like he stated even at the start of the video... sometimes it's about the upgrade path, more than the current performance. $350 will get you up and running. the SMART option is choosing components that you can add to instead of replace, when your budget is that limited. if i have 8gb installed, and want to upgrade to 16.... -if i have 2x4gb to take advantage of dual channel, and it's a budget (or just an ITX) board with only 2 ram slots... i have to toss out the old ram to get better. -if i have 1x8 ... ok i lose out on the dual channel boost... FOR NOW... but all i need is to buy another 1x8 to go in beside it, and i'm not wasting any old components.

[@Mike_Hogsheart]

@@tzxazrael honestly, that's just not a realistic scenarion. For one, an ITX build on a budget is an oxymoron. You are definitely paying a premium if you go with ITX, so any reasonable budget build will go with either mATX or ATX. Once you go mATX or ATX, you might as well get a 4 slot board. The 2 slot boards are the bottom of the barrel, which is the exact opposite of what you want if future upgradability is something you care about. TL;DR: you always go with dual channel memory, even if you are on a budget. Always.

[@crunchbar777]

@@tzxazrael Have to say if you are going two memory slots you should still get dual channel, sell the 2x4 memory chips and use that money to help invest in 2x8, not like ddr4 is going out of style any time soon so you will get close to what you payed for it. Memory is one of those things that doesn't depreciate in value quickly since it is used on so many different generations of consumer hardware. Best advice for an AMD budget build is to buy the fastest memory you can at a set price point in dual channel. the price difference between corsair vengeance 3200mhz vs 2400 mhz is literally 2-5 dollars and sometimes they cost exactly the same. You will benefit from that way more than it's worth waiting to buy a second memory stick down the line, most people won't feel the need to upgrade for much longer since the performance will be so much better, and when they do just follow the advice in my first paragraph. Sure it's a tad bit more work but compared to having a much slower PC it's worth it.

[@OlettaLiano]

@@Mike_Hogsheart Agreed. If you can only afford 8GB of ram, get 2 4GB sticks for dual channel, or you'll be leaving up to 10% performance on the table.

[@dutchdykefinger]

@@OlettaLiano make that 20%, and closer 100% if you use the iGPU.

[@thesfox1522]

"Remember this is a budget system" *Has RGB RAM sticks*

[@acd5677]

I know it’s a joke, but just in case you missed it, the RAM is underclocked to simulate budget RAM. Kind of funny how they don’t have budget RAM on hand.

[@wnxdafriz]

ok... ill be honest -- when ram was ridiculously high.... literally the cheapest ram i could buy at the time was some rgb ram.... lol

[@makomk]

Noah C There's basically no cost saving from going below 3000 MHz RAM these days though, even on a budget system. All they're simulating is the result of setting up a system really badly.

[@acd5677]

makomk Yeah, especially without dual channel memory.

[@keb6004]

RGB RAM sticks aren’t much more expensive than non-RGB RAM sticks. The difference between 2x8GB 3200MHz RGB RAM sticks and 2x8GB 3200MHz non-RGB RAM sticks is $10 at most (considering you get high-quality ram made by trusted brands, not some sketchy ass stuff)

[@absurdshark6019]

That moment when you have to SIMULATE cheap memory

[@kushvalorant]

Linus be like: Am i too rich to understand this joke 😂

[@misham6547]

@2080 more like they don't want to deal with having 10 different sku's of ram in their warehouse when they can just get the highest end and simulate it in bios without

[@uzimyspecial]

For love of god USE DUAL CHANNEL RAM especially with APUs the igpu benefits considerably from it

[@juniperburton7693]

BuT iTs a BuDgEt BuIlD

[@Xanthelei]

@@juniperburton7693 Budget doesn't have to mean stupid, especially with the equivalent being so close to the same price. My guess is he was being too lazy to find a set of sticks he could underclock at the right numbers, because why would he bother with 2x4 sets when he can snap his fingers and get 2x16 pairs.

[@frank668668]

@@juniperburton7693 You can do 2x4 GB instead of 1x8 GB it cost the same AND you'd get DC

[@juniperburton7693]

My comment was sarcastic.

[@juniperburton7693]

@@lawliot The 1650S is as good as a 1060

[@Divenity]

"That's like a night at the movies" Jesus how expensive are the theaters where you live?

[@dominicperez1563]

Theatres get a lot more expensive in the evening

[@paws27]

l0n3s0m3kIll3r Gaming Not in most places I’d say. It’s somewhat over 20 here with a large drink and large popcorn. Granted that’s in euro but even converted that doesn’t even come close to 50 without a drink or popcorn.

[@Mat2095]

I was thinking the same thing. Just this week, I paid 6.20€ or something like that (per person).

[@kurgo_]

@@Mat2095 Yeah same here, I was like what, 50$ for a movie, is there a blowjob included too? Christ.

[@stoneymahoney9106]

Don't forget, he has kids.

[@menpee]

"The good news is that we're obviously heavily CPU bound" You mean catastrophically memory crippled at 2400MHz single channel, right?

[@Blessedup69]

Péter Menyhárt dude I’ve test games from 8gb of ram to 64gbs. Games can’t see ram

[@DiskyToy]

The 3000G can handle up to 2666MHz, and why he is using single channel? Irdk

[@menpee]

@@Blessedup69 Quality was the problem here, not quantity.

[@RadarLeon]

@@Blessedup69 ryzen infinity fabric 2400mhz ram=1200mhz fabric, 3000mhz=1500mhz fabric, 3200=1600 also apu uses on board memory in dual channel 4gb x2 will beat a single 8gb @sam speed thus this was a poor showing for this chip

[@Shyphlosion]

@@Blessedup69 Oh, trust me, dude. More RAM ABSOLUTELY makes a difference. I felt the jump from 8 to 16 not too long ago myself.

[@LoskLive]

Linus "100 FPS is.... Fine." Me, with my Phenom II x4 965, 8go RAM and R7 240: *pikachu face*

[@sqibbley8053]

BRO THATS LITERALLY THE EXACT CPU I HAVE IN MY PC XDDDDD

[@dragonlord3295]

The poor AMD phenom IIx4 gang

[@crazywindows88]

Dragonlord 32 fx 4300 :(

[@juancarlolintag9582]

phenom quad + r7 240 in the year 2020 gang

[@LoskLive]

@@juancarlolintag9582 yup 😂

[@Adam-qg6pg]

Amd: *releases 1600 AF* Linus: “I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that”

[@ryohyamaru8282]

Was literally thinking this myself...$85 6 core 12 thread cpu is freaking amazing

[@kost.9423]

@@ryohyamaru8282 And actual an upgrade if you still are with an i5 sandy or ivy bridge. Those 50 bucks cpus with igpu is only for people upgrading from core2duo and older intel chipset gpus

[@michener1622]

Kos T. Or building a pc

[@ringodooby]

Kos T. I’m on a budget amd chip from aaaaaround 6 years ago 😅, my toaster runs games better now

[@Wrathlon]

@@kost.9423 Or an Office PC. Or a HTPC Or a dirt cheap gaming PC for the kids. Or basically any scenario where you just need a basic PC.

[@garyarispe5248]

me watching the comments: everyone : dual channel memory

[@CaveyMoth]

Running single channel RAM and wondering why stuttering is present and 0.1% low frame times are high...

[@g00gleminus96]

@@CaveyMoth What part of "budget PC" don't you understand?

[@saint__lucifer1356]

@@g00gleminus96 you can get 2 sticks of 4gb 3000mhz memory for $40 so i don't think it's unreasonable to assume that dual channel memory is not budget.

[@8thlvlMage]

@TDR REVENGE Budget in these contexts always means cheap. When people say a "budget car" they don't mean "my $300k budget." Budget plane ticket doesn't mean "$2,000 seat." It will always mean "deadass back of the plane."

[@xanamata5386]

tech tips from car salesmen .

[@strohhuttv8848]

3:17 min Linus: this is a budget PC ME: Looking at Trident Z Royal RAM.

[@eleos7]

And Samsung 960 PRO

[@OrangeC7]

Looks *really budget* to me...

[@TheRealObamagaming]

core 2 duo gang

[@strohhuttv8848]

@@eleos7 Oh yeah I didn't noticed that one lmao.

[@strohhuttv8848]

@@OrangeC7 Yeah 👀

[@bearpuns5910]

Who else is here after LowSpecGamer's video?

[@theosexpertdaymon2774]

Me

[@Continus]

KZbin auto redirected me here on it's own. Thanks Autoplay!

[@elliottdavid9095]

Hey Teddie are you doing well? Or should I say bear-y well?

[@pamikokitty]

im not? what was the video

[@bearpuns5910]

@@pamikokitty kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zoipgqiajcqrm9k

[@SreehariGSr3v]

"I think I forgot something." "If you forgot it, it wasn't important in the first place." Dual Channel memory: 🌧🙁

[@bearpuns5910]

LowSpecGamer will have to make another video about them so they can finally learn.

[@mindcreeper]

That is my life motto

[@zes3813]

wrg, forget, remex any nmw

[@Apexly]

Linus: Has single channel memory while playing on apu Whole internet: Why you didn't put 2 ram sticks!?!

[@soullessgemini7786]

@@HelenGPitts Yeah, let's see your paystubs then

[@acd5677]

Helen G. Pitts Wow! I care!

[@VPlaya]

@@HelenGPitts oh Helen no

[@stevietech]

Couldn't sleep, put 2 sticks of ram in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ponWlqpqhcaDl9E

[@cbaha4985]

Helen G. Pitts How about you go get an actual job instead of scamming people

[@Fernando-sd6xt]

"Todays plan is to see just how badly it can shred its Intel equivalent." \*Runs a single Cinebench test, which the Intel wins, then never touches the Intel again leaving us with no idea "how badly it can shred its Intel equivalent," or even if it can "shred its Intel equivalent" at all.

[@Azmirator]

Agreed. Very unobjective. Because if you are not AMD fan today and dont shit on intel, youre not cool probably. Do you think there is 2 years old video, how this intel cpu is shredding AMD? I guess no.

[@everykenyan]

what a shit video tbh, i immediately knew he won't bench it against the intel with the graphics card

[@2S2F1]

Linus’s content has gotten worse the more money hes gotten from them. Half assed, poorly edited shit garbage videos.

[@irisdogma8174]

@@Azmirator He doesn't know you can overclock basically any intel CPU by installing intel XTU with the command prompt option to not check the chipset. Apples to apples comparison would have been overclocking both. Not that he compared at all.

[@fernandosanchez6507]

this vid is really bad, comparing a new amd cpu vs a 2 years old intel "equivalent", barely any benchmarks...

[@ethanwilliamson2456]

YOU HAVE SINNED IN THE EYES OF LOWSPECGAMER

[@plashhar1736]

Lowspecgamer : *sees only 1 stick of ram* oh my god you don't know how to use this underestimated power Edit: thanks for the likes

[@sleepinredroses]

xD

[@keubis2132]

same mistake again ..... low spec gamer is our only low budget guy

[@0testacc111]

Linus isnt a pc Expert. Dont be too harsh

[@Youngeebear]

@@0testacc111 not a PC expert? he has a whole KZbin channel dedicated to PC's

[@prescottmajette5290]

@@Youngeebear Because he isn't always an expert on ALL things pc and this case being a clear example of it. APU's use system memory as VRAM and by only having one channel, you're severely bottlenecking memory bandwidth and killing fps.

[@Dayytimee]

"A night at the movies" dang Linus where are u watching movies.

[@nemilu]

OwO

[@av28379]

No movie costs more than 50 dollars lol What the fuck....

[@Deribus575]

He has 3 kids

[@carlangelo653]

Maybe he's including the kids and popcorn cost for them.

[@Yantonio7]

One person here in peru , have to spend around 8 dolars to go to the cinema theater

[@oyu7214]

Linus: 139... thats playable Me: 40 fps is playable

[@kylecook8108]

also me: workstation with gpu: 25 fps is playable lmfao my old pc was a work satation that i got a rx 550 for

[@imsryseb]

@@kylecook8108 ok

[@MikhaelAhava]

Well…

[@erikkarsies4851]

60 fps full hd with vsync is good enough for me... And I tune my settings so my MSI 1660 Super fans barely spin up... aaaah the low noise

[@erikkarsies4851]

@@mikeycrackson If the vid card can render every frame in less than 1/60 second Vsync is perfectly fine :)

[@joshualepon5676]

"Once they get cheaper in the used market..." That did not age well 😐 - Chip Shortage of 2021

[@dailypcandgaming5329]

I was looking at building a system for my sisters birthday (she’s 11 and wants to play Minecraft) and then I looked at the price and I was like 50 bucks is not a bad deal (I’m 15 and on a budget)…. Looked at the prices now, About that

[@takumifujiwara300]

Got mine for 40bucks tho? I'm gonna build a pc for my daughter since I can't even play on my own pc.

[@markskonecki2050]

Yeah cheap my a$$ lol

[@Alex-yj9xl]

@@dailypcandgaming5329 Ohtじゃtそうんdsびcえ

[@kennhern]

That $50 chip became $100 in my country real quick

[@nguyenitwindows392]

There are a couple problems: 1. Even in a super budget build, if you go AMD, you MUST use dual channel memory 2. No one uses a 150 dollars graphics card with an Athlon

[@paolocazzaniga8735]

Yeah. I agree. By using just a twin stick of RAM instead of one, the built in graphic chip would have seen a massive performance increase due to doubling the data exchanged. Then overclocking the CPU and the memory would have add another boost. Instead adding an external GPU defeats the purpose of the whole budget PC.

[@ethan-fel]

3:55 "if you are gone do it, do it smart" Ltt run this with one memory channel.. yeaah so not like you did.. 2x4 cost the same as 1x8 (2666-3000 are under $40), with a 4 memory slot MB you can still upgrade it to 16gb later. That's some very basic Ryzen knowledge here..

[@0testacc111]

Linus isnt a pc Expert. Dont be too harsh

[@mhx6437]

@Ignacio Yeah, but the price is actually the same OR HIGHER for single-channel ram, so the argumsnt is irrelevant.

[@Nathan-te7qr]

@Ignacio Je's using a trident z and a Samsung m.2 ssd. Very realistic

[@averagealoneredditor]

Basic computing knowledge. My OCed 8600k ran like shit until I got dual-channel.

[@kidShibuya]

@@mhx6437 and all the pre-builts at this price point?.. this comments section is full of ignorant kids.

[@funnydayz4life918]

"$50 cpu" Me: nah, I'ma get a three core cpu from eBay for $9 at 3.3GHZ

[@amrkhaled2633]

Three core??

[@musje83]

@@amrkhaled2633 Old AMD Phenom X3 CPU's, yeah. Basically quadcores with 1 core disabled. Pretty useless in modern systems unless you want to do simple office-tasks, then they are still fine.

[@amrkhaled2633]

@@musje83 Thanks for the info🤝🤓

[@rockychickengaming6991]

chief for ten more dollars you can get an i5-2500.

[@bruh-dj5uo]

@@rockychickengaming6991 Where

[@danieltanuwijaya7675]

Single-channel Memory LowSpecGamer: *TRIGGERED*

[@antwanfisher8748]

Confusing as to why you have single stick ram, I've built a lot of budget builds and dual channel performance is worth the extra $10 on any budget build.

[@excitedbox5705]

2x4 costs the same as 1x8 even.

[@MrGoldenfresh]

@@excitedbox5705 so you can upgrade whenever you want with another 8 down the line

[@antwanfisher8748]

@@excitedbox5705 Well were I'm from and with the ram I use patriot premium between a 8GB single to a dual with 4GB sticks, it would cost me $5 more to order the two 4GB sticks on amazon. So markets vary, I just guessed it would be about a $10 difference. Yes both are the same clock.

[@japaneseotaku7532]

I agree they might have reached near the fps of ryzen 5 3600 if they have used the dual channel set up on their test rig

[@Kyle-yn5hy]

It might not be realistic, but the point was seeing how powerful the CPU is in the least powerful system configuration possible. You can easily assume a more powerful build with two stick of ram would be, well, more powerful. I don’t understand your problem here.

[@swollendoggo2529]

this review somehow feels off and not so satisfying, i feel like there's more things they can do for both the G4560 and the Athlon 3000G but was left out, would be great if both processors were reviewed in depth.

[@connor040606]

Your life depends on my mood gamers nexus

[@nameer03]

Its a 50$ proccesor dont think most people care for that, if you only got a 50$ budget for proccesor buy a used one thats actually good

[@Demonslayer20111]

@@nameer03 if all im doing is making a small media pc, whose only job would playing movies, shows and things like that why would i want to take a chance on a used processor?

[@mael6513]

@@nameer03 it's stupid with using older used cpu... just buy this one as it is on the current platform and you can easily upgrade it.. don't be stupid amigo.

[@cm01]

Not to mention a Gold G5400 would've been a more relevant representative for Intel, but given they threw the whole comparison out the window after cinebench I guess it doesn't matter much

[@justsomeitweeb]

"You could rock this for 2-3 years..." Me still using an fx 6300 -_-

[@nightopia2911]

You are lucky. I have c2d And I'm in a poor country that core 2 quad q9650 is my dream cpu

[@LoskLive]

I have a Phenom II x4 965. You lucky.

[@ondrejbrandejsky5592]

@@LoskLive well, you actually have better single core performance than him

[@LoskLive]

@@ondrejbrandejsky5592 At lower specs ? Nope. (And I compared to the FX 6300)

[@ondrejbrandejsky5592]

@@LoskLive well the fx 6300 has higher clocks but does less calculations per clock An FX 4300 at 4ghz equates to a Phenom X4 955 at 3.2ghz, but it doesnt really matter anyway

[@ttk-stephenfox1507]

"Do it smart" yet dual channel will significantly make it more fast and improve performance.

[@EuanWater]

50 dollars for a night out at the movies!

[@LinusTechTips]

Sorry, I assumed you would have a date.... Awkward....

[@natekovo8894]

@@LinusTechTips F

[@roembol]

Linus Tech Tips did you heart your own comment?

[@LightBlazeMC]

@@LinusTechTips oh dang

[@brycesoker601]

@@LinusTechTips 25 bucks per person on the movies? Man, Canada will bankrupt everyone.

[@KY-zu1wx]

Linus: Remember this is a budget pc. Samsung 960pro 512GB: Am I a joke to you?

[@devilmikey00]

I mean the hard drive is kind of irrelevant for what their testing. It's in there for their own sanity I'd imagine so basic shit doesn't take forever to load.

[@OttuR_]

Don't forget the single trident z royal stick lol

[@Shyphlosion]

To be fair, the 950 EVO AND 960 PRO aren't super expensive these days. I've seen 1TB sticks of the shit on eBay for as low as $80, so it's very possible to slot one of those in a budget rig. :p

[@louiefriesen]

At least he didn't use an 970 PRO 2TB or 860 PRO 4TB.

[@DaemonForce]

Corsair MP510 240GB: Answer is yes.

[@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive]

Couldnt be happier with my Athlon 3000G. Awesome CPU. I even underclocked and undervolted it. Economic, quiet, cool system. 💪🙏

[@Ventell_]

somebody, give him a cooler :)

[@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive]

@@Ventell_ no need for that. 28°C idle with a carbonaut cooling pad and an arctic passive cooler.

[@Ventell_]

@@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive sweeeet

[@Alex-yj9xl]

How much did you pay for it? They are like $90-100 when I look for it pre tax. 😭 almost double.

[@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive]

@@Alex-yj9xl I got mine for 48€.

[@ZaikoEAG11]

Linus:: Single channel Comment section: The internet never forgive or forget

[@excitedbox5705]

It is the LTT Verge moment right here.

[@CaveyMoth]

I like my RAM to be just like me.

[@lightningdev1]

@@CaveyMoth So single I guess?

[@excitedbox5705]

@@lightningdev1 no, useless.

[@CaveyMoth]

No, dual channel unganged mode, but you're close.

[@internziko]

Why hasn't LTT talked about the 1600AF yet?

[@xfastxeddiex]

hands down best budget chip

[@RandomPlaceHolderName]

@@xfastxeddiex Easily.

[@Voornaz]

@@RandomPlaceHolderName no that's i3 8100 😡

[@znoozi]

this, with a rx570 for just over $100

[@jeyendeoso]

no, he cant talk about the 1600AF, if he talks how good value that chip is, they'll completely disappear off the market!

[@delusionalbystander3438]

the moment I saw a single DIMM in AMD system, I've started questioning my existence ;(

[@michaelwerner5049]

First time iv someone have a single stick of ram and a Zen cpu within 6 inches of each other.

[@Roxor128]

@@michaelwerner5049 I had that when I was diagnosing whether I had some faulty RAM. Turns out I did. Got it replaced under warranty from the manufacturer.

[@dakszaks]

How to make me sad a cpu that no problem gets 700 cinebench score me: runs cinebench and gets 290

[@p3chv0gel22]

Me: Cinebench doesn't even start

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

*Laughs in 5 year old i7 pulling a 2291 score.*

[@blitz8260]

I get 89

[@blitz8260]

I get 83 points

[@JordanISmith]

@@Mostlyharmless1985 crying laughing in 8 year old AMD fx

[@danielcunha6813]

3:17 - Linus: This is a budget PC Me: TF is a Trident Z Royal doing there?

[@Elias-ru5xk]

Daniel Cunha Same thought lol

[@seucha9841]

WTF is a 960 pro ssd doing there?

[@tyaty]

Because of product placement. Thy ran them on lower clocks on purpose. For an APU you want to go with 3000/3200mz Ballistics LT kit.

[@danielcunha6813]

@@seucha9841 true words have just been spoken

[@rkadi6540]

It could worth cheap dual channel kit ram

[@morgan1168]

Linus drops the monitor......well that's one way around a bottleneck.

[@kanumanu1656]

If he dropped it again the fps would have been below 25

[@ligofleyens9131]

#LinusDropTips

[@danielcunha6813]

aren't you always one of the top commenters in almost every single LTT video?

[@trytryw8700]

Linus: don’t cheap out on a cpu Linus sometime later: but a 50 dollar cpu Everyone: ok Linus

[@hellblaze8082]

Dude the first cpu that I bought was only 3$

[@Skozerny]

There is actually a good sub 100 dollar CPU which is the 1600 AF. MSRP 85 dollars with Ryzen 2600 performance.

[@hellblaze8082]

Bro my whole rig. Costs 200

[@hellblaze8082]

Yours can too if you can get your hands on some good quality used stuff

[@knightmare39]

@@hellblaze8082 Did it run on hopes and dreams?

[@DaBigBlud]

Linus: "should you buy this $50 CPU?" Me: can I afford that $50 CPU?

[@jackrichard2201]

Yes you can. Your phone alone prolly costs above 200$

[@hexados7479]

Jack Richard your just low balling the fuck outta that

[@jackrichard2201]

@@hexados7479 am I wrong tho? There's always a bunch of people "oH I cAnT aFfOrD tHaT" even tho they can, and even if there's clearly something that costs less than a 100 dollars. Like if It's still expensive then get a fucking job mate

[@hexados7479]

Jack Richard from what I can tell you still live with your parents I have a iPhone 11 on contract that’s £60 a month for unlined 5g calls and texts that’s £1440 for 2 years that’s a lot of money not everyone can afford that especially if there paying for let’s say an apartment so rent utilities maybe throw in college or any form of studies or education and there just scraping by your argument is the dumpiest fucking thing I’ve ever heard because not everyone can fork out 200-700 on a single purchase item especially if it takes them a while to save up for it saying that your phone is $200 so you can afford this is like saying oh you spent £500 on a second car so you can afford to rent a house a $200 phone is convenient you can do a lot with it and as much as you could with £1500 phone but there are a lot of variables that effect your averages joes ability to buy what is essentially a luxury item

[@MYVISIONISKRYSTALKLEAR]

@@jackrichard2201 my phone is 150 dollars yet i cant buy a 50 dollar cause im a kid and the phone is a gift, so dont be mean to people if you dont know what their situation are

[@robertcoggins7407]

“That’s like a night at the movies” Me: I’m single so it’s 2 nights at the movies ;)

[@lycanrocvevo147]

Hell yeah

[@nando03012009]

Or 1 night at the movies with alcohol and popcorn

[@Deliveredmean42]

I can watch 3 movies with popcorn and soda with that amount of money, heh.

[@TakumisBizarreRacingAdventure]

20 movie nights for me XDXD.

[@abissiniank]

the movies nights are damn expensive there! O.O

[@MagecraftLP]

Wow, you crippled that Vega 3 with single-channel memory...

[@renevos5822]

3:16 RGB ram An Nvme ssd Linus: ''Remember this is a budget system''

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

Nvme2??? 2???

[@DaLoler1]

He said the ram is set to low speed to simulate a budget ram stick

[@InfernosReaper]

to be fair, some NVME SSDs are pretty cheap. To be unfair, aside from me, what idiot's gonna get a single stick of RAM and hope that *later* they can afford the second stick rather than filling the board and spending the same amount to replace the set later on anyway?

[@kuhluhOG]

@@InfernosReaper yeah, but he used a Samsung NVMe 970 Pro instead of a cheap SSD

[@freddybigs10]

Nvme is irrelevant for the test being performing as it only affects loading times and not FPS.

[@zachthedragon1488]

That moment when the 3200g is pretty much the only option for a pc build under $1k due to the gpu shortage now

[@Pepechan4561]

Remember guys, you can overclock the GPU as well and in combination with faster dual channel memory, it could be used for super budget gaming

[@jojoba_24]

Yup, but they wanted to show their fancy trident Z RAM instead

[@ERROR_-_404]

and remember to allocate more ram to the GPU in the bios.

[@jojoba_24]

For real, underrated comment

[@TitanBeats]

@@ERROR_-_404 wait does that mean i can use my 16gb of ram to improve my gpu's Vram from 2gb?

[@ERROR_-_404]

@@TitanBeats i don't know what the limit is. but 2 should be enough

[@jasiumr6723]

Dual channel ram really helps with integrated graphics

[@honkhonkler7732]

Man, I still feel like this needs dual channel memory despite the budget if you're gonna use the APU.

[@druggeddragon420]

100fps is “fine” Linus I’m running a r5 2600 with a 2060 and I’m hitting 98 FPS

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

"Alexa, how much larger is 2160 than 1080?"

[@fur_avery]

Imagine having more than 25 fps

[@lynox4623]

@@fur_avery ikr me running on my old laptop with single channel 4gb ram and integrated Intel graphics on my cpu (laptop) cant even run minecraft more than 30fps with multiplayer but 15 for in single player... idk why I get more fps on multiplayer

[@fur_avery]

@@lynox4623 this is description on my old laptop except mine had partially broken screen

[@fur_avery]

@@Mostlyharmless1985 btw 1080 is better than 2060

[@caosonnguyen3336]

*single channel memory Me: REEEEEEEEEE

[@AmpedGaming404]

"If you're gonna do this, do it smart" ... "..etc. etc. etc. stability. etc... We're just going to go full hail mary"

[@filipecalixto6569]

"If you're going to do it, do it smart" proceeds to use single channel memory

[@filipecalixto6569]

@@guyswithbrainde9573 ?

[@marcosmedia7463]

Linus: Intel won this race! Me: You're giving the poor AMD CPU only one stick of ram you doof.

[@MostlyPennyCat]

"Dropping knowledge since 2008" On their foot usually.

[@nhansgoofyvideos7581]

Low spec gamer: **DUAL CHANNEL!**

[@Racingboom]

“Drag race between a Yota Yaris and a Honda Fit” Lmao.

[@eddtru]

Don't you mean Toy Yoda (laugh track)

[@TheGriffin200]

Ironic considering Toyota just announced the Yaris GR which has 257 horsepower

[@Racingboom]

TheGriffin200 wait fr, that’s badass

[@keon5779]

@@Racingboom Yeah, not for North America for now. 257-257 HP, manual, AWD, completely different body, carbon fiber reinforced panels, weighs under 1200 kgs. LSDs and Michelin performance tires are optional.

[@MiGujack3]

@@eddtru How about Turbo Yoda

[@megan00b8]

I love the fact that he has so many high end parts, but so few low ends lying around that he actually has to underclock his RAM to simulate a cheap one

[@rev_dude]

"This is a budget system" *Trident Z Royal*

[@viniciuslisboa8864]

Single Channel with expensive ram. Great Job.

[@Shyphlosion]

They underclocked it to simulate OC'd cheap RAM. Probs would be best to pay attention next time, bud'.

[@rafathussain1427]

@@Shyphlosion still using 1 stick of ram is just devilish in my opinion

[@Shyphlosion]

@@rafathussain1427 Still a point to it. I'd pay attention a little better.

[@louiefriesen]

Can't he just use something a BIT cheaper, like Trident Z RGB or Trident Z Neo? I want the Royals!

[@stanguay169]

Where is Dual Channel? One stick of RAM? Come on Linus, you know AMD love bandwidth...

[@ringo9324]

Me, looking at my ryzen 3 1200 that I bought for $60: *nervous laughter*

[@zhoc9605]

ME TOO LMAO

[@sabsi5378]

Darkbowwee got one for $50, L! jk jk

[@bigturn1051]

@@yexuanyang5341 ok

[@dev1ce888]

Which is better this or your ryzen 3 1200

[@TENSE1983videos]

@@dev1ce888 this

[@dumbotterlover2558]

It should be noted that the NVME(even though they're now cheap) is going to be super important for these results.

[@kaizen3876]

Limiting the speed of ram to simulate poor. Respect +

[@Blargah]

Adding a graphic card but not adding a stick of ram!! Triggered +

[@ssu7653]

They also "overclocked" to some of the cheapest memory i could buy for ddr4 (largest online retailer in my country)

[@Nik-ff3tu]

I'm pretty sure the budget ryzen CPUs take advantage of dual channel memory

[@keubis2132]

they do they just forgot to use their brain ... again they already made this mistake .... and responded to it

[@InfernosReaper]

*All* CPUs do

[@silvy7394]

When people who know nothing but fast say "Whole PC chugs" = "It didnt load that instantly, took 2 secs instead"

[@silvy7394]

@@JinnaiT You're really weird if you're re-launching a heavier program 50 times an hour....

[@MrGoldenfresh]

@@silvy7394 im addicted to closing my software mid use

[@Jacob-qp5cs]

@@MrGoldenfresh me 2

[@Blastoise1022]

@@MrGoldenfresh You're using your software?

[@steviestl2269]

this cpu/PC is way fastet than mine.

[@rabel1545]

4:03 "to simulate cheap RAM" why have I never been in such a situation, where my RAM is to good?

[@KantoKairyu]

You need to download better RAM

[@rawdez_]

LTT going dumb - don't even buying a cheap ram to do their job properly

[@corwinweber693]

Because you don't build high end watercooled systems on a daily or weekly basis?

[@KantoKairyu]

@@corwinweber693 Exactly. You don't *build* high end watercooled systems, you *download* them

[@admirnaruto]

I have feeling you'll be getting some calls/emails from LowSpecGamer.

[@Centbair]

-Talks about budget system -Has loads different memory, from low end to overkill -uses most expensive ram on budget - has the ram stick in A1 slot, not A2

[@gynaecide4382]

AMD: Makes decently priced CPU that performs pretty good for the price Intel: *We don't do that here.*

[@Djuntas]

...But they do, 9600f with no onboard gpu, 1600f etc...Linus must have shot this video many weeks ago

[@isparxz2024]

Linus you do know that 2 x 4 gb ram cost's nearly the same and gives you way more peformance it just seems stupid using 1x 8

[@tyaty]

2*4 is waste of money in 2 slot board.

[@isparxz2024]

@@tyaty they whanted the best bang for the buck than going for single channel is dum cause dual channel has better bang for the buck

[@tyaty]

@@isparxz2024 It is NOT the best best for buck build. It is ultra cheap build.

[@SyFyJoe]

Starts off with a comparison between an Intel and AMD system, Intel wins. Then they decide to use a GPU only in the AMD rig, get results, tout how much better the result is and totally ignore that this started off as a comparison.

[@twincitiesberrycompany8723]

Yeah this video seemed all over the place. It started as an AMD vs Intel, turned into AMD vs AMD, and essentially ended with the conclusion 'if you increase your budget pc budget by 50% you unlock more performance'

[@kaldo_kaldo]

This question was in fact answered in the video. It's 30% more money and it finished that test 3% faster. Linus said "well the score is about the same and the Intel chip is $15 more, plus we didn't overclock the AMD chip so I'd say AMD wins" And they got about 10% performance later from overclocking so it would surely beat the intel chip after that.

[@alexmarks4194]

@@kaldo_kaldo While that is true, they also did not take into account the extra cost of an overclock chip-set motherboard. That can offset the $15 extra for CPU. They also didn't even test the Intel system on Rainbow like they did with AMD. Not a very thorough comparison.

[@piers389]

Yeah, one of the most ridiculous videos I've seen for a channel that has an entire team of writers. It could have been good, but there was a stated aim that was ignored and the constant 'but just adding an extra $50 could do xyz' Oh, and the channel is back to clickbait titles.

[@atruebrit6452]

this whole video sucked. but totally ignoring intel sucked even more somehow. I would have been interested on differences between the 2 builds. good builds with amd and intel budget. you know: 2 sticks of ram, budget 64gb ssd, 60 usd motherboard and such. this video is useless, sry.

[@maxhartung97]

Budget items: Triden Z RAM Samsung 960 Pro SSD Much more expensive stuff: 2 sticks of RAM

[@frank668668]

The SSD is irrelevant in the test, the TridentZ was slowed to a 2666Mhz equivalent so irrelevent too but having 2x4GB to enable DC would get better results I beleive

[@anharun]

LowSpecGamer looking at RAM setup: Let me introduce myself

[@dominicesquivel3901]

Linus I clicked on your video I got an ad for pulsewave staring you. I liked it

[@Deadpoker]

03:16 Linus: Remember this is a budget system RGB RAM: Let me introduce myself

[@GeorgePerakis]

>single channel memory >on an apu >on a motherboard with four dimm slots You forgot to wear your clown costume Linus.

[@8lec_R]

And you forgot to actually listen to any fu**in' thing Linus said.

[@GeorgePerakis]

@@8lec_R I paid very good attention actually. On the other hand, you apparently can't read. He said "upgrade path". What he apparently doesn't realize is that any motherboard worth its salt, including his in the video, has four dimm slots (see where I already pointed that out), so you can very easily run dual channel 8 gigs and upgrade to 16 later by adding two more sticks. Yes, this means they can't upgrade to 32, but for a budget build that doesn't fucking matter does it. Feel free to pick up your clown costume at the door.

[@8lec_R]

@@GeorgePerakis 1stly no. You are wrong. People in a sub 400 dollar category will never buy a 75 dollar mobo. Cuz that's stupid. I built a 400 dollar rig 3 years ago. I bought a mobo for 50 bucks (or less). It makes a lot more sense to invest in a better psu since that will go a long way. I also bought a single stick of ram and upgraded when I had the cash. Fyi buying 2 sticks of 8 gigs is a lot more economical that 4 of 4 gigs. And I'm frickin glad cuz I now have 16 gigs and Resolve works even better than it ever did or would have had I bought 2x4gigs 2ndly, no again. How much f***in' time does it take for one guy to collect 40 bucks to buy another stick of ram? 4 months max. Also upgrading Ram is literally the easiest task. Even my 5 year old cousin can do that. Feel free to take of that clown costume when you feel like it m8.

[@tusux2949]

@@8lec_R You simply do not run an APU on single chanel if you value your money. You do not run Resolve on a 50$ Athlon if you want to have anything done seriously. You do not "invest" in a better PSU if all you have is a 50$ Athlon, that thing runs on photosynthesis. There are A320 MBs with 4 DIMM slots if 75$ for a very decent B450 is too much for you. Do I need to continue ? The OP is right. This CPU is for Facebook, KZbin, Word/Excel, movies and music. Since 4GB is barely enough for Win10 these days (I've seen it live, it's a torture) AND since the Athlon will suck up to 2GB for VRAM, you should really get at least 8, which means there is no reason to not pick up a 2x4 kit. And 8GB will be plenty for what you would do with the CPU, like forever.

[@GeorgePerakis]

@@8lec_R >who buys a 75 dollar motherboard for a cheap rig ....if you want an upgrade path, yes, that is what you will do. I assure you, being able to upgrade to a better CPU is much more valuable than a cheap RAM upgrade. And that's the kind of motherboard Linus was taking into account when he quoted 300 dollars for the build. For the PSU you need to pay 50 dollars for a decent namebrand unit. I can find 2x4 kits of ram going for 40 dollars. 3000Mhz kit by the way. Two of those is 80 dollars. That's about what you'd pay for a 2x8 kit that speed anyway. 50(CPU)+40(RAM)+50(psu)+75(mobo) is 215 dollars, leaving 30 dollars for a case and the 55 for storage, enough for a 500GB SSD. That's exactly 300 dollars for exactly the kind of build Linus quoted. And leaving you room for both a RAM upgrade and CPU upgrade down the line. Perfect entry level rig, and performs much significantly better than the single channel trident-z monstrosity Linus was using. You are so full of shit it hurts. Please stop blindly trusting youtubers.

[@arthurnorth3178]

"this is a $70 mobo" My B450M feels really called out right now.

[@bushysowavvey]

Arthur North same. I love mines. Idk why I’d need a $300 one

[@Mario64iscool2]

ASUS B450M-G If I recall properly for myself. got 32 GB DDR3 and an i7 4790-K. Runs like a champ!

[@SpacemanSpleef]

Intel on a b450?

[@jayvader9023]

@@Mario64iscool2 i got the same but 16 gb. i kinda need the extra ram for video editing but meh

[@reportteemo4690]

lul im rocking b350 plus with ryzen 3600 and rx5700xt just fine....

[@iampxl]

"Budget system" *Has a stick of trident Z royal memory*

[@zarmaanful]

Don't forget the 960 pro!

[@corwinweber693]

To be fair, he mentioned they were running it at a much lower than normal speed. Something more like what cheap memory would run at. It's what they had handy.

[@CheapBastard1988]

@@corwinweber693 Two DIMM's of a quarter the capacity would have been more realistic though and would have performed better.

[@corwinweber693]

@@CheapBastard1988 Maybe, but again, it's what they had handy.... so I'm willing to give them more of a pass on that.

[@Frame16Gaming]

Me: how do you spend $50 at the movies? Linus: two people Me: alone sadness

[@DrTexas]

*Me* I pay 5.80 for one ticket. For fifty bucks that's like 2 tickets, 2 drinks XL drinks, and 2 popcorn.

[@MrJamesnight]

That's still hella expensive.

[@csharpcoffee]

@@feha92 where I live, just the ticket is 15$ cad on discount day. And in the nearest big city, is 20$. A medium popcorn is 7-8$. And that's for the basic section, if you choose the SuperXLBoomBoomSomething rooms (they got a stupid name that I don't care enough to remember), it's 25$+

[@Zigouzag]

- 3:17 "Remember this is a budget system" - shows an Trident Z Royal ram stick

[@nunoandrefranca]

also a nvme 960 pro

[@tyaty]

RAM ran at 2666, SSD did not impact the performance. They use Royal in every test.

[@bige8293]

AMD: makes budget CPUs that compete with intel Also AMD: makes a 50$ cpu that has a better gpu than intels Intel: wait that’s illegal

[@LogicalError007]

7:16 Linus saying 50$ ain't cheap... Alex grinning and looking towards camera. They're mocking cheap system. HOW DARE THEY.

[@justfortier]

They were afraid to look elitist, but instead it just looked disingenuous. Lets be honest and say that the bottom of the barrel CPUs by AMD/Intel are just that - cheap CPUs.

[@thezyreick4289]

@EUTube Kreuzberg too immersed in their bubble that they don't care about the rest of the world? I didn't realize somebody who lives in a third world country and has trouble getting food, would be worried about a cheap gaming rig, I apologize that most of us who don't have to deal with those issues have a tendency to assume that someone in that situation has better things to do than buy a gaming rig, sorry that we assume you are busy trying to survive instead, guess we are wrong, instead of being smart and doing what you can to save any money you have in order to survive and escape your impoverished conditions, you are wasting it on a cheap gaming rig to waste your life away. But tell me this, Is the man who has the money to waste on something unimportant and does a fool? Or is it the man who does not have the money to waste on something unimportant but still does and then suffers while blaming others for his own misfortune?

[@thezyreick4289]

@@Herr.Mitternacht the comment was a sarcastic and offensive jab intended in a dark yet very real sense of nostalgic humor that only those who actually are having a hard time living would understand. Which you clearly don't.

[@thezyreick4289]

@@Herr.Mitternacht since you went to the length to enlighten me that your so offended by something so trivial and that you are the holy Knight defending those who might be in a situation to be offended by it as well. I'll remind you that those who are actually in that situation will most likely not come even close to getting offended by it. And even if they did, then they need to grow some thicker skin, or spend the $300 they were going to spend on a budget pc, instead on a safety bubble for them to hide in from the scary meanies of the world. And since you gave your life story to defend your reasoning then I suppose being fair is fair. I'm a 32 yr old male who lives in U.S.A, I am 5'11" and I weigh 68lbs if you don't realize what's wrong with that then not my problem. I work a job where I work 14 hours a day 7 days a week including holidays, for $8.00/hr all year round with no overtime pay, no holiday pay, and no vacation. I am considered an indentured servant as I grew up in foster care and when I turned 18 I did not have the money to pay the state the amount my schooling was worth. They choose the job I work, I have no say on the matter. And the interest rate they charge is more than my annual wage so I am permanently stuck with the debt until I die, which will likely be a few more years. After paying my rent of $350 to the apartment I'm forced to have, I am left with $35 every month to pay for my water bill, food, and any other expenses. As an indentured servant I do not qualify for any kind of assistance. Most of my meals come from a dumpster and most of my water comes from rain water which has many pollutants in it from the smog. Yet I still say my living conditions are better than most, because for one I have access to internet, I have a laptop assigned for my job, and I have a roof that doesn't leak very much, the walls do but that doesn't matter. Yet my fascination is technology, I have an IQ of 178 despite only receiving mediocre high school. And I often stay as up to date as I can on modern technology even knowing I won't be alive long enough to ever own anything special. And yet despite all that, I do not find anything about the video to be offensive, I am logical enough to be realistic and not get offended by something so silly and pointless as somebody laughing about a cheap ass $50 CPU because they believe it's not worth the money and don't see a reason to ever go that cheap, and I fully agree. Now you say I've never lived in a third world country, and your right, I haven't had that priveledge yet. I haven't had that freedom of possibility, knowing that my only limit to what I can achieve with my life, is what I do myself. I am instead forced to forever live a stagnant existence bound by laws that are designed to keep me bound. So you can boast all day long how bad your life is, so can I, so can anybody else. Because at the end of the day, nobody has it any worse than anybody else. To every single person that exists, their life is the worst and best life they know because it's the only life they know. Acting any differently is just ignorantly pretending your better or worse than another. And getting offended over something that doesn't matter is childish, getting offended over something that doesn't matter, on the behalf of people in a lifestyle you don't understand, is utter nonsense. And criticising those who offended you, simply makes you worse than the trash I sift through for food, and just like that trash, after today I very likely will forever forget about your existence. So before you go getting offended and spouting your beliefs while telling your life story to justify your arguments just for the sake of arguing, take into thought that the other person can as well, and sometimes make you look an utter fool and an ass. After all, all I did was ask you a question, about who the bigger fool was.

[@oisin_doran]

Everyone in this thread fuck off

[@laurentneumann1874]

You know you're on a budget when your motherboard costs more than the cpu

[@SuperQBoi]

its because the mb market is full of spinster price gouging fancy gaming component name markup products. ltg did a 'budget' build for holiday last month and for the Ryzen build they picked a Zxxx board instead of a Bxxx series board. The B series Ryzen boards have the same performance as the Z minus the stupid gaming markups and lack of dual GPU which is so 5 years ago unsupported nowadays. You can even go if you never Overclock with an A series board to save even more money or just pay your extra $300 so you can have your RGB branded ROG.

[@gang-yc4je]

Literally just get an athlon 3000g, a320m board, and 4gb ram for a good-ish oc for cheap.

[@rkadi6540]

I think if you want oc a cpu, at least get a b350. A good motherboard (which might be expensive if you looking mb with good vrm) and a good ram (must be dual channel) is a better investment for future upgrade

[@AuthenTech]

New LTT shirt design, "Bibbidi-Bobbidi!"

[@abdelrahman3259]

11:02 no linus the lesson is this was a pointless video

[@gavwrecker]

yea he didn't use dual channel RAm sooo wtf

[@DerrickRG]

@@gavwrecker Who gives a fuck.

[@abelbrites9592]

@@DerrickRG Have a coockie and chill

[@broken1965]

How much for 1600 ryzen used $50 ebay all day

[@lunchie80]

@@broken1965 plus the cost of a GPU

[@danielgertjohannesvankoppe9252]

yesterday I bought my first pc, I'm so happy. it has an i5 4440 and 8gb ram, a GTX 780, a corsair vs550. I got the whole pc for $70

[@bigjoeangel]

Nice little rig, you got a bargain.

[@imamalox]

That’s a good deal!

[@Djuntas]

very cheap. Dead platform to upgrade on but who cares for that price

[@xponen]

@@Djuntas a Smartphone cost more than this PC :D

[@uzimyspecial]

Good build tho I'd think about upgrading that PSU, it's very low end and could be unsafe In the long run