Should You Buy A New Hybrid 2024 Toyota Tacoma? i-FORCE MAX

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[@Daideo911]

Got to take a thrill ride in the TRD Pro at Barret Jackson Auto Action in Scottsdale AZ on Saturday. It was amazing. Having a 2023 TRD Pro, it pales in comparison to the new version. I am sold, will be ordering my Pro in September.

[@TRDJon]

Dude yes!!! Glad it was awesome! I can’t wait to do that as well! Was the course long?

[@Daideo911]

@@TRDJon The course wasn't very long but was fun, got some air towards the end. It was a dirt track with moguls and dips. The seats were impressive. I wasn't thrown around like I was expecting. Very exciting!

[@HelloRenauldo]

September??! We have to wait that long???

[@Daideo911]

@@HelloRenauldo I do... that is when I am able to order my new truck. They are to be released sooner than that.

[@belfastconor8521]

Another reason to get the Hybrid is that it comes with a 2400 watt inverter in the bed. Lots of power to run equipment or tools.

[@ALMX5DP]

That's the biggest thing in my mind to get it. Should be great for camping etc.

[@TRDJon]

Didn’t even think about that!!!!!

[@apa7611]

The pro and trail hunter looks like they lost all the back seat storage area from the 3rd gen, because of the batteries under the seats. That kinda of sucks.

[@lucristianx]

If it’s anything like the Ford Maverick, you cannot run powertools off the outlet. Just charge batteries. It’s an amperage draw. Maybe Toyota addresses that issue.

[@ALMX5DP]

@@lucristianx the Maverick only has 400 watts out output so makes sense it could not power stuff likes tools. This will be 6x the output so should be able to run most anything short of a welder or something (but perfect for coffee makers, blenders, drills, saws, microwaves etc).

[@patricktrier4503]

I do really want the hybrid, just comes down to the price. The extra power, better mpg, and larger inverter are all very appealing to me and I do trust Toyota s hybrid technology reliability. I would love to hear your impressions of the power difference and if it is very noticeable and worth it.

[@TRDJon]

Completely forgot the bigger inverter

[@KrazyKajun602]

same here, it all will depend on the cost diff between the non and hybrid versions.

[@calark5812]

Can't belive I saw a 2024 Taco pass me today coming into my neighborhood. This weekend I'm prowling around to see which neighbor has it for an in person inspection. I'm in the Omaha area.

[@jakehilliard4711]

I will be ordering a Hybrid after they are out for a couple years. I want a TRD sport model to try to not spend 50k+ on a tiny truck. Very interested to see if a normal size human can fit in the back of the 4th gen, and how the front lines up in room too. Toyota has been building hybrid cars for 15+ years so I trust them way more than Ford or Chevy.

[@dvader3263]

Toyota has been building hybrids for over 26 years. Do you think Toyota hydrogen vehicles have been a success? And with that kind of thinking, Chevy and Ford have been building vehicles for over 100 years and that doesn't mean much these days.

[@kpmmsupervision1297]

I had a similar thought when I got the 3rd Lexus NX 450H in Ottawa. Now it has 46k kms and I haven’t had any issue. I’d say with the Tacoma hybrid will or should be the same! Cheers.

[@josephkraft5640]

I may get a TRD off road someday. The new Tacoma would be as big as I’d want to get anymore. I traded my 22 platinum Tundra for a 23 Silverado and just got into an old school 2024 4Runner and it’s not perfect, but I love it. It’s all I need I just don’t tow or haul anything to spend 66k on a full size truck. I’m too old to be cool anymore.

[@TRDJon]

Congrats on the 4R!!!

[@howardklatsky5016]

YOUR NEVER TO OLD TO BE COOL. I'M SURE EVERYONE IS COOL TO SOMEONE.

[@evancontos2267]

Having more low end torque in the sport, on the street, in 2WD for a fun street rod is a great reason to get the hybrid 😎

[@TRDJon]

Ohhhh man that’s gonna be a unit!!!

[@evancontos2267]

@@TRDJon These things actually have more low end torque than the new Ford MACH1 and cheaper!!! Put some summer rims and tires on and it could be a bad ass street rod 😎😎

[@Hobbies4Hire]

Great job on the video Jon! Thanks for making it.

[@TRDJon]

Glad you liked it!

[@brianmckenzie1318]

Great topic! I wonder about those things, so it was good to hear the pros & cons! Watching you video makes me miss driving around from Ft Pickens/Navarre/Ft Walton area!

[@MikeSchneider-wz3ol]

Having that hybrid power is nice. Wife has the Grand Highlander hybrid. Oh man it’s fun. ✅

[@Tacosauce81]

I'm sticking with my 3rd gen Trd or. I'm not interested in paying 10 percent interest on an already overpriced truck. 63k after all is said and done for a mid-size truck with a 4 cylinder is absolutely a horrible idea.

[@TRDJon]

Depends on the person. But for most it won’t make sense until the rates come down for sure.

[@jeffbradburn3800]

Don't forget the dealer mark ups. Here in AZ already seeing dealers advertise sr5's for nearly $60k or more. Either way I'm excited for you Jon and congrats on the new Taco!

[@jml9550]

San Francisco is selling all Tacomas at MSRP and no add ons. But I don’t see any Pro or TH in transit, so no sure if they will mark them up.

[@jeffbradburn3800]

@@jml9550 Nice, yeah the Pros, TH and all hybrids not coming out till spring. At that time we will see the new Land Cruisers on the market and hopefully they'll officially announce the new 2025 4runners.

[@jml9550]

@@jeffbradburn3800 great, we gonna see a whole bunch of new models coming. I am excited to see the new 4Runner…

[@kritonman1]

i've got a 2010 V6 SR I'm upgrading to the TRD PRO. I saw the Trailhunter and it was an option for me. The Philly Auto show wouldn't let us inside. I'm patient and will wait until July or August when they finally release it. I want all the bells and whistles including the sun roof. It will probably be the last vehicle i purchase. I haven't decided if I'm going to keep my old 2010 with 132K miles on it that I've not had one Substantial repair or trade it in. Might keep it my wife loves to dive the old Taco instead of her car haha.

[@thisisashan]

As long as you dont leave a black truck parked in the sun in 110 degree days all the time, the hybrid batteries last 10-20 years

[@wd8085]

Folks, wait a few years and it will be alot cheaper i predict. These crazy prices can't hold for much longer as only a small percentage of people can actually afford it.

[@verglas1992]

I have a 2nd gen tacoma that I love. I can't wait for the new trailhunter to come out. I will get one for sure, but in 2025.

[@lespaulguitarist92]

If i can get 300k out of the turbo hybrid, i’d be happy. No ones keep a daily commuter for 30 years anyway.

[@TRDJon]

Not anymore for sure.

[@Eastsidegeorgiaboy]

Speak for yourself, sir!

[@JD-yx7be]

@@Hannibalmiles8494 must not live in the rust belt. Old Lincolns were know be rotted out in under 10 years. My grandpa had a 70 something continental and sold it after 4 years cause of rust

[@Cinoism]

150K miles easy, beyond that, you may have bad battery cell that you want to replace.

[@crushbaseball4270]

If you are going to eventually get a Land Cruiser on the channel then get the non-hybrid, but if you aren’t, get the I force max tacoma since you can do reliability and ownership videos and people who want a Land Cruiser want to see the performance/reliability of that hybrid drivetrain. Also don’t think you mentioned with the hybrid you get a 2400 Watt outlet

[@TRDJon]

Completely agree with this. Kinda how we did with the sequoia but I will actually keep for longer than 6 months. That sequoia just wasn’t going the way I wanted it to

[@wasichuwacanta7010]

I haven't seen any difference in the payload and towing capacities between the hybrid and non-hybrid, and I wonder if the weight of the batteries would negate any difference if there is one. I also need back seat room for my 100 lb Pittie/Mastiff, and plan to do a rear seat delete (I have a '22 Bronco BD 4 door, so he's got lots of room, and the rear seats have been folded down since I got it home) and build a platform for him. I'm waiting till maybe the summer to start looking for a '24 Taco OR, and Ice Cap with upgrade package is what I'll be looking for. I'll then sell my 2023 Tag XL Boondock teardrop and put a Tune M1 on the Taco, and off we go! Thanks for your videos, Jon, and I get more reliable info from you than pretty much any other youtube poster!

[@AllTerrainNation]

Go get that Tacoma🎉

[@TRDJon]

Trying man!

[@coreydickey3657]

The dealer next to corporate is already telling people to expect a big markup.

[@Eastsidegeorgiaboy]

Im sticking with my 2022 Offroad manual. If it comes down to it, I will get the TRD supercharger for it. If I am feeling really froggy, I will swap in one of the iForce v8s.

[@650tonyd]

I'll wait a year or two so Toyota can figure out the quirks

[@tpippen75]

I’ll be sticking with my 2021 3rd Gen for a while longer but look forward to your future 4th Gen videos!

[@TRDJon]

I appreciate you watching. Enjoy it!

[@jackhenson4809]

youre driving in my neighborhood! i was freaking out after i clicked on this video

[@TRDJon]

lol

[@BitOftenCtazy]

I'm more interested if the battery will act as a huge power supply to run heaters, lights etc

[@TRDJon]

It allows for 2400w inverter in the bed

[@user-in1mt4in6e]

I wish they offered the hybrid in a 2 door version. It would be nice to be able to option the SR5 with a locker and 14" stereo display, too.

[@michaelrey3558]

Sounds like they're using the Prius battery system which is great news. Lithium ion is great for all electric however degrade too quickly then become too expensive to remove. In my garage i build Lithium ion battery packs for bikes. The issue is removing the old packs from under the frames. You need a specialized mechanic, which costs you more. I approve of the long term reliability put into the hybrid system. Makes me feel better about wanting to buy one.

[@lucristianx]

If it’s that same exact battery that’s a 5k replacement after over 200k miles.

[@freedompanda9438]

I can afford to buy any of the new trims, cash. I REFUSE to pay those prices, for one, especially for a 4 cyl with way more fancy parts that will be expensive to fix. So no. No. No. No. No. Toyota is crazy, and the dealsrships are even crazier. No.

[@JD-yx7be]

even the 4.0L in the second gen was fancy compared to the 3.4 in the first gen. with Variable valve timing and a aluminum block. The 3.5 was even fancier with direct injection

[@gustavopolanco6925]

Im assuming i can upgrade the turbo on a TRD pro right?. How is aftermarket support for toyota tacoma in the sense of power?

[@threadoflife]

Absolutely they will make aftermarket turbo upgrades as well as tunes for the Hybrid guaranteed options will be endless just as in the 3rd gen predecessor down the road!

[@benruthlessburger8905]

Keeping my first gen…

[@Papolucho702]

Does it have the ability to add accessory lighting without having to tap into the fuse box like in a 4Runner or 3rd gen taco? One thing I’d like to do is transfer most of my lighting to a newer vehicle since Baja designs is pricey and lasts a long time. That is… if I decide to come to more modern times haha

[@TRDJon]

There are aux buttons on this new truck which is so cool!

[@ldippyyl8187]

Who else is watching this and watching the views go up? 😂

[@TRDJon]

Man I truly appreciate that

[@martinschulz9381]

This sort of hybrid truck interests me, but I will wait awhile to see how they pan out. Traditional auto transmissions seem to be one of the weakest links when it comes to towing, having an electric motor doing it seems to be a better option for or accelerating and braking both. Good video.

[@TRDJon]

Thanks!

[@teo1120]

Trailhunter with Campershell will fix storage issue 😊

[@eyang7]

I'm just gonna go for the 24 off road, don't really care for the iforce max because I want that extra storage in the back seat. 😊

[@hugoarreola5797]

Keeping my 21 TRD PRO Lunar Rock for sure, I’ll wait…

[@Flash....Gordon..42]

Waiting for hybrid trd sport...I'm hearing people saying there not getting the non hybrid till like March something. Crazy delays. Are you waiting for hybrid?

[@TRDJon]

Currently waiting for a non hybrid at the moment my friend

[@GrifFungin]

How many miles are on your current Tacoma? What are they giving you for it on trade? Would you consider selling it and if so how much?

[@TRDJon]

I would yes. it is at 14XXX. $49K would make me sell private party at this point based on the trade and savings I will make.

[@Eastsidegeorgiaboy]

​thats a good deal. Dealer offered me $45k for my 2022 trd offroad manual premium, with 25k miles.

[@GrifFungin]

A good deal for who? He’s not offering a “good deal” to a private party buyer. He’s getting a good trade in offer if he’s getting $49k including the tax credit.

[@DrewVerdin]

All I think about is the TRD pro having less backseat leg room and 0 storage under the backseat and such a huge price. The trade-off isn't worth it for me. I wish they would let you opt out for those iso seats and just have the nice red camo seats

[@Eastsidegeorgiaboy]

From what I have seen, the Iso-dynamic system doesn't really intrude into the rear passenger leg room. Pretty sure you can opt for sr5 or limited seats. I doubt they will offer the trailhunter seats as an option, but you should be able to buy them from a dealership if you have a vin from trailhunter to give them (if they even ask). Or wait until someone wrecks theirs and buy from co-part or some other salvage company.

[@DrewVerdin]

@@Eastsidegeorgiaboy they do intrude on the back passenger. A lot

[@user-iu9lg2wf9w]

Sticking to my 6 speed manual 4.0 second gen !!! It’ll Outlast an Egyptian Pyramid!!!

[@annmarie1137]

Can you add a 2023 Tundra lift kit to the 2024 Tacoma?

[@driftx2]

I would stick with the V6. More power because of higher displacement.

[@MannyG952]

Im # 108 on the list for the TRD off-Road with iForce Max. From what my dealer is telling me, maybe mid summer delivery 😒

[@mramseyISU]

I’m buying a hybrid Toyota truck this spring. I’m torn though between the Tundra and Tacoma, a lot of it is going to come down to the price jump for that hybrid. If I get the Tacoma I’m planning on buying one similar to how you have yours spec out and I’m guessing it’s going to come in close to $60k. Around here Tundras are getting dealer incentives again and I’ve seen iforce max Limited Tundras with the TRD off road package listed for sale around $63k. For $3k that tundra is hard to say no to compared to what I think the Tacoma is going to cost.

[@apa7611]

Are you trading in the trd pro? Or selling it outright? I’ll wait a few years once the hype dies down

[@TRDJon]

Trading in for now. I have a buyer interested I need to send video to but I plan to trade

[@jml9550]

San Francisco Toyota is selling all 24 Tacomas at MSRP and no add ons. Don’t see any Pro or TH in transit though.

[@TRDJon]

Those won’t be on sale till later

[@apa7611]

Hopefully they give you a good trade in price.

[@nicholassinovich4257]

I wonder what it costs just for the battery packs much less installed with labor time factored in

[@JD-yx7be]

i know with older priuses they can be repaired often for well under $1000 including labor. a dealer would only replace and charge a huge premium. If the tacoma hybrid sells in good numbers i would expect aftermarket support also

[@dwk1986]

it will be either trailhunter or wait for 4unner for me. I really think I want that 4runner though, so unless the trailhunter is absolutely perfect in reviews I am just waiting longer... qq

[@gojoecastro]

iForce Max all the way!

[@TRDJon]

Tons of power!

[@jamesdonaldson7396]

I thought I read the hybrid will have less towing capacity (6000 vs 6500 for the non-hybrid.) Anyone else read or hear the same?

[@donthesheek]

Go with a trd sport or off road and mod it to your hearts content.

[@TRDJon]

Ohhhh yes

[@ryanmedes9417]

Why has there been no news on the 2024 Land Cruiser lately?

[@jedeckert8912]

BRO, legit I love the neighborhood you live in. I want to live there, where is it?

[@TRDJon]

Thanks man. I’m in Florida up in the pan handle

[@benjicpalmer]

@trdjon you mentioned that the mileage and price would be revealed in April. It's April! What's the gas mileage and price?

[@TRDJon]

Embargo lifts in a few weeks

[@benjicpalmer]

@@TRDJon Awesome, I am excited!

[@BC_Hunter]

Yes, get hybrid!

[@TRDJon]

Can’t wait to see how it is!

[@PVo-1111]

I was just there lol. I wish I would've caught you in public.

[@TRDJon]

Ah dude! Hope you had a good time and it was warm. It’s been chilly.

[@holynuggets69]

I have a 04 taco with 115k miles, might upgrade to the new gen.

[@TRDJon]

That 04 is barely broken in!

[@astralzombie]

I’m gonna have a hard time not trading in my ‘21 4Runner TRD Off-Road for a Trail Hunter Taco!

[@indaydongtv5139]

❤❤❤

[@edwined82]

Noti gang on deck

[@gunsmokezz]

Of course ! Never enough power

[@YZY96]

Ok now this bad boy is worth it, I had less experience chick in position for my finger to slide in hole #3. She painted the seats dark chocolate but after hours cleaning looks new. Just holds smell long

[@theslyrylan]

I want the Trailhunter

[@TRDJon]

Get it!

[@qbanlink25]

Aiming for the 25 TRD Pro, just don't want the first year batch to be sure. Price is no objection so most of these arguments against are irrelevant to me.

[@TRDJon]

Hell yea bro! Way to work hard. Get it!!!

[@jfawls]

NiMH is also safer, supposedly has longer duty cycles, and performs better in colder climates. Toyota has been mass producing and using this battery chemistry since at least 1997. Tried and true as it comes for a hybrid.

[@JD-yx7be]

LFP batteries have an even longer duty cycle life but don't perform as well in the cold. NCM which is in most EV have the highest energy density but not as safe

[@spenticus]

I keep hearing that the hybrid off road will only come in a 5’ bed. Not sure if that is true or not

[@TRDJon]

Oh that’s a good question. I doubt it though cuz the trailhunter can come in a 6’ bed so idk why an off road wouldn’t be able to

[@hophead2342]

All depends on the cost for me. I have a 2nd gen Taco now and love Tacoma's, Just cant see spending 60K for a midsize when I can get a 1/2 ton diesel for the same. Still on the fence.

[@JD-yx7be]

those half ton emissions compliant diesels won't last long unless you do a delete. and the extra cost for diesel fuel will offset any mpg gain unless you tow often. There is a reason Ford and Ram dropped the diesel options, I think chevy will soon drop theirs once the Silverado EV is in full production

[@Bobby_86415]

I will stick with old school reliability method, if its not broke don't fix it!

[@TRDJon]

Ain’t nothing wrong with that!!

[@protectork9831]

Old school transmission is 40k for sr model. That’s insane

[@tycotoys]

Keep that Tacoma, take the money and invest in the S&P and keep vehicles for a long time and get your value out of them.

[@TRDJon]

I do as far as KZbin content goes. Thanks

[@omarpuente4782]

Will this new Tacoma require premium fuel?

[@TRDJon]

No it wont

[@pzadach]

The hybrid is a huge step up in power and capability from the gen 3. The regular iForce has about the same 0-60 time and the same mpg as the gen 3. Driveability and low end are improved according to reviews. It’s going to be a high price of admission for the hybrid though as from what I have seen on the trim packages you have to go full premium package on the OR or Sport before you can get the hybrid. Otherwise it’s the Pro or Trailhunter. Probably approaching $70k for those.

[@TRDJon]

I’d say you are about right on the TH thought.

[@loletanguyen1987]

Toyota should give the Tundra this 4 banger hybrid too... I just want a big truck to show up, and have nothing to tow.

[@JD-yx7be]

it would be higher towing than the tacoma. Towing is about payload and braking not about power.

[@wiseoracle]

The obvious for me is the price. These new ones are in the fullsized cost range and it's hard to justify.

[@Eastsidegeorgiaboy]

Just get the one that you want. Makes no sense to get a truck you don't need just because it had a similar price to a smaller truck that you do need. Remember that the price of full size trucks has gone up. Your argument would have more merit to it if you were just talking about base models, but you are talking about halo and holy grail models. Those will always be in a fringe price point, as they are more towards the specialty vehicle spectrum. Useability is way more important. If you hit trails a lot, and don't tow anything too large, a midsized truck would work way better, unless you are transporting large sized adults around in the backseats. By large, I mean obese/fat/tall or a combination of them. Don't get the truck size thats going to piss you off the most. Honestly, there are more headaches to be had with a larger truck in general. Insurance is more, more surface area to get damaged, parts cost more, harder to maneuver, harder to park, harder to see out of, burns more fuel, repairs tend to be more, harder to drive safely, can be hard to get in and out of, tend to be larger targets for thieves, more likely to be stranded off road due to size and weight, tires cost more, more likely to roll over in a crash, more likely to kill someone in a crash.

[@markreams3192]

How much will the tow and payload specs be reduced by the weight of the batteries and hybrid motor. The extra power is great but if you can’t use it for what you want to haul or tow then it’s kind of a waste unless you’re taking it to the drag strip!😂 Will they increase the GVWR to accommodate the hybrid? BTW, the Hilux (Tacoma’s cousin) has much higher payload and tow ratings. Couldn’t Toyota match those ratings in the Tacoma?

[@TRDJon]

It will go down a bit due to the extra weight. But we all know it will Tow alot better for sure with that power.

[@TRDJon]

Honesty though if you really new to tow alot, get a mid size. Just safer and easier.

[@tomtraynor5384]

Will it be F150 Ecoboost 3.5 fast? My current ride--and they are pretty quick--which I Iike. V-8 quick for sure. $600 make them crazy quick. Acceleration in all my things (bikes/sleds--why I have a truck) is fun.

[@TRDJon]

I’d say so or faster based on how light it is. But idk whose racing a Tacoma

[@tomtraynor5384]

@@TRDJon More for passing lane maneuvers--and that FEELING. Amusement parks are built in that premise that human brains enjoy G-forces and acceleration. They are literally G-force generating parks. Of course I own and haul Ducatis and 180-HP snowmobiles on the truck....The Toyota long bed option gives some thought of downsizing trucks.....the Hybrid motor can maybe keep the thrill alive.

[@TRDJon]

Yea 465 torque that comes on at 1700 rpm is great

[@turny5642]

Man i just want a tacoma its either a 2024 tacoma or FL5 Type R

[@thepdc6220]

Picked up my 2024 Tacoma today. Just kiddin. They aren’t coming.

[@JulyOverland]

It's crazy people are willing to pay over 75-80k for a mid size truck

[@TRDJon]

Idk who is paying that

[@JulyOverland]

trd off road are going for 67k here in nyc@@TRDJon

[@TRDJon]

Can't help you there. Sorry but that city is overpriced in in the first place.

[@davidl922]

4 cylinder???? I would get a cyber truck all day

[@TRDJon]

Ok?

[@christrarback9748]

Buy an I-force max...doooooo it !

[@TRDJon]

DOOOO ITTTT

[@motive7475]

Nah the 4 cylinder did it for me. They won’t last sure they may be good if your just driving it around like a car but for a truck it’s not going to last

[@TRDJon]

Time will tell

[@JD-yx7be]

Ford has done it with the ecoboost for over a decade. I still see older ecoboost f150s on the road today much better than the previous 5.4 3 valve

[@mikepuusa6084]

How about interior space ? I’m 6’4” and don’t fit in the Tacoma. Arguably the longest lasting most reliable truck but way to small of an interior.

[@JD-yx7be]

It is much better than the 3rd gen. I am under 6 foot so couldn't tell you from first hand experience

[@lucristianx]

Toss a hybrid powertrain so you get a whopping 20mpg 😂

[@ayushnand5617]

Bruh this man Jon has made me love my yota more than I already do

[@TRDJon]

Heck ya dude!!!!!

[@Kazewarrior]

When I watched Andre's Colorado smoke the standard engine I lost all interest. Glad my deposit was on the hybrid it should pack a punch.

[@TRDJon]

Yea that high output will have a challenge with the iFORCE MAX for sure!

[@MrDjh66]

I’m waiting

[@TRDJon]

Same!

[@richardroberts6472]

Im waiting 3 years

[@sclems4]

Getting a new TRD Sport Premium to replace my 21 Limited 3rd gen. Since it's all new I'll probably lease to try for the first few years but perhaps I'll do a 1 time pay to get a discounted buy rate/money factor since rates are so high.

[@chele2907]

but why does this dashboard and interior look like the 2023 model... not 2024.... something is off here, that sounds a whole lot like a v6

[@robrocker7544]

Tacomas no doubt are great trucks,, but the insane pricing will keep me away.. everybody talks about the great power in the hybrids but any long term customers think about what it would cost to replace these hybrid batteries?? $6, $8k just a guess but prob more… if you research you will see the Toyo hybrids are needing batteries between 8-12 yrs. So 2-3 mpgs more you’re getting now are going to be poured into the battery replacement on the other end. To me it just doesn’t make sense, imo stick with the regular I-Force if you plan on dishing out all the $$$ and perhaps the only major repair will be the turbo one day.

[@JD-yx7be]

On toyota's website the battery has a 10 year/150k mile warranty on the battery. I don't think toyota would give it that warranty if they expect it to fail before then

[@Jside68]

The non-hybrid iForce Tacoma 2024 OF Premium available in Canada is already close to $71,000 in Canada. I can't imagine the premium they will be asking for the iForceMax model. Most likely close to 15%, which would bring the total price close to $81,650 with tax... a little bit too much for me!

[@howardklatsky5016]

I was under the impression that if you that if you ordered a Tacoma with a manual transmission it only has a gas engine and is not a hybrid motor. Is that right or am I having a senior moment? Good Video Jon. In a couple of years I expect to see you on the Motor Trend channel ,

[@TRDJon]

You are right. I thought I said it wthatbway in the video but I may have fumbled my words

[@howardklatsky5016]

@@TRDJon You did say it. My hearing is a little off also I am a little frustrated that people complain that its only a four cylinder or they do not want a hybrid and they have not driven one to see what it can do. I've driven 4 cylinder Toyotas and they were quick. Some people on here are really scared of change. Give the new 4cylinder a chance before put it down.

[@JD-yx7be]

I think the OG honda insight is the only hybrid that was offered with a manual, at least in the u.s

[@An_Enraged_Pig]

I tried out my friend’s Tacoma and I can’t fit in it lol

[@JD-yx7be]

is it the 3rd gen? the 4th gen is bigger inside

[@TRDTalk]

3rd gen ftw

[@TRDJon]

Great trucks!

[@tomlam3680]

Just get a Tundra without hybrid, more power, more towing capacity, more ground clearance, more room

[@Eastsidegeorgiaboy]

Harder to park. Wont fit on a lot of trails. Costs more on insurance. More likely to be targeted by thieves. Can't park in garage. Harder to see out of. Way harder to maneuver, especially in a parking lot or tight trail. Has possibly fewer options. Unnecessarily large.

[@tigerjeebs5048]

The torque is good on the 4 cyl iforce max (465) but "insane" horsepower at 326hp? That's not insane. That's honestly barley above the competition. The non max iforce is underpowered compared to the rest of the midsized market. I hope the max performs since others stepped up their game.

[@kevinsolis8701]

326 is good HP bruh. If you need more you need a full size truck

[@tigerjeebs5048]

​@kevinsolis8701 I had a tacoma, I currently have a iforce max Tundra. I like Toyota. But let's not pretend like 326 is very good. The frontier has a naturally aspirated v6 that has 310.

[@TRDJon]

Insane maybe was a bit much. I get to excited sometimes, but for a midsize I guess. Insane compared to the 1st gen! lol

[@tigerjeebs5048]

​@TRDJon it's absolutely better than the previous gens minivan engine. I wish toyota would offer a truely special engine for the pro. The ranger raptor (if they ever build it) will have 405hp and Jeep (ew) shoved a 392 in their midsize. People would buy it.

[@ALMX5DP]

All the current turbocharged crop in the midsize segment are pretty insane in my mind. And lets not forget, peak power is only the tip of the iceberg. This iForce Max should have a hell of a lot of power down low as well given the torque comes in at such a low RPM.

[@HBManPon]

Why spend (if you trade your current Taco) 10k to upgrade to your same model for the 2024 when you can just supercharge your 3rd gen (pro charger or magnusen) for the same price and get MORE power?

[@TRDJon]

There is more than just engine that makes the new Tacoma better to me.

[@jason43095]

whether you buy it or not, everything is pointless before you know the price.

[@67SportWagon]

The battery packs are every 7 to 10 years to need replaced, just like the other current Toyota hybrids.

[@sawyermartin4434]

Dude, do you have any idea what you're talking about? Why would Toyota offer a standard 10 year/150k mileage warranty on the hybrid batteries if they need to be replaced every 7 to 10 years? Are you truly that disconnected from how a successful business works?

[@67SportWagon]

@sawyermartin4434 yes I do. That warranty is recent and was only increased in 2020. They still replace a ton under warranty but most are gone at 10 years. I've been working with Toyota since their first hybrids so I guarantee I know a crap ton more than you do.

[@brianhendrickson3108]

Yea that's false. We're seeing these batteries last 150k to 200k miles lol

[@RideShootDrink]

Blah blah blah...

[@TRDJon]

Yawn yawn yawn. Watch less bro

[@RideShootDrink]

@TRDJon agreed...a useless poser...blah

[@TRDJon]

And comes back to comment. Thanks for another view!

[@RideShootDrink]

@@TRDJon you're welcome, take a selfie with it!

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