Should You Buy an Old Panasonic Toughbook?

[@dragos2010full1]

wrong that fuse in the hard drive caddy is for THE HEATING ELEMENT you just peeled off from around the hard drive they use the for the hdd to be able to work in ice cold climate

[@psivewri]

Wow, I didn't know that! Is it always active? Maybe I should remove it since the SSD isn't going to be subjected to cold conditions 😅

[@derkernsen]

@@psivewri ssds work better when they're warmer so it should be fine.

[@dragos2010full1]

@@psivewri from what i know it is not always active i think it either uses the hdd temp sensor or uses a dedicated temp sensor on the motheboard of the laptop

[@ub7247]

Psivewri have you ever seen plainrock124 moving on videos :D

[@SproutyPottedPlant]

Wow that's impressive! I saw those style of heater on the Mars rovers😀

[@ProtoMario]

Used these in the ARMY deployed in Afghanistan, worked great in sand storms and survived explosions.

[@somethingreal5042]

lol

[@PsycosisIncarnated]

And then somehow you became PROTOMARIO?

[@theformer1337agent]

damn you were in the military?

[@nonelost1]

My guess is that these Panasonic “tough books” were the civilian version of it. I just found one behind the dumpsters yesterday, a model CF - 27EB6GQCM. The screen is not cracked. All the keys are there. And it does not look like anybody hit it with an ax. But it had been out in the weather for sometime. I just cleaned it up as best I could this morning. Can anybody tell me about this particular model?

[@PsycosisIncarnated]

@@nonelost1 take out the harddrive just in case and replace it.

[@ChrisMX9]

"parts are difficult to find for this laptop" *Proceeds to bend the motherboard with an axe*

[@buda3d2007]

could have scavenged parts off the old one to sell to re:coup the cost, but considering how cheap it was I guess no biggie, just a bit of a waste

[@NotJohnTanner]

yeah

[@ChrisMX9]

@@pdahandyman I know, it was a joke

[@predatortheme]

@@pdahandyman And most likely, military or rescue services would buy those and for them, price doesnt matter.

[@tuomashauvala6349]

Yeah. The most external parts Are same as in newer models of the CF-19 family hengenvetoon no price drop.

[@Mirra2003-f9s]

Dropping this laptop off the table in a coffee shop would probably crack their floor

[@stevemoore3951]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nslouka90]

They’re like the Nokia of laptops

[@d0tbr3w]

i tried that before can confirm

[@MinecraftPro97k]

If you drop your ToughBook on my floor, Get out of my house and bring the ToughBook with you!

[@MinecraftPro97k]

@@Dragon-zu2we Do NOT encourage anyone!

[@mihirkulkarni2606]

In my previous employment at MNC we used that toughbook a lot on field and in office, we needed one dedicated man to manoeuvre 2 panasonic toughbooks. There were 2 battery slots and we used to swap those during machine testing, our servant would quickly run to office to charge those batteries. Once the toughbook fell off from 10 feet height from machine on concrete. I was shocked that it didn’t bend the thing nor display was cracked. Once when I was on machine and machine was in running condition, due to jerk it fell off my hand and our 11.5 tonnes machine passed over it. We were shocked to see that at first but when we opened the laptop only display was cracked. The toughbook was insured hence panasonic repaired it. But the company did fired me.

[@zerocks88]

That there windows 7 pro key can still be used for windows 10 activation- just FYI

[@BilisNegra]

I expect someone like him to know that, but it's OK to mention it for people reading this comment section.

[@zerocks88]

@@BilisNegra a lot of my very tech savvy colleagues and comrades don't know it still so it never goes astray letting the masses know :)

[@lrc3847]

Any Windows 7 key works on Windows 10

[@easfrq]

What i due is put a drive in my laptop and install windows 8.1 (no activation needed since my laptop came with it) and then i upgrade it to 10 with the media creation tool and pop it into the computer i need it for

[@S己G]

Possible I may have used that, or will. It also doesn't need to be a pro.

[@bluej511]

Toughbooks are amazing. We used to use one at our Ford dealership with Ford software to do a lot of things, they are incredibly slow but holy crap are they tough. Ours has never failed.

[@motorbloxx]

Talks about ford with a jaguar f type pfp. Is that your dream car?

[@rebert_reid]

You can probably run over it

[@massmassive8329]

finding spare parts is diffucult.. destroyes a fully working motherboard..

[@BilisNegra]

Well, they are not same generation machines at all, the most trashed one is Core2Duo based while the more decent one is 3rd gen i5, probably like 5 years newer.

[@tipstricksss1453]

The motherboard could have had issues. Even if the motherboard posts doesn't mean it is fault free. Most are junked for parts or get sold on ebay. Personally I wouldn't touch a toughbook on ebay that has missing parts like batter, hard drive and ram because there could have been a good reason why it was stripped.

[@araigumakiruno]

pain

[@exturkconner]

Cf-19's are actually one of the easier tough books to find parts for. They refreshed it so they reused the chassis and all of the ports and fitting for two different models (older ones were core 2 duos the refreshers were core architecture 3rd generation). Parts are expensive though that is for sure. I served as an army reservist and we had some cf-28's in our unit. We were given the option to purchase them (minus the hdd's and unfortunately the hdd shock mount caddies) for pretty reasonable. I still have it all these years later and it still works fine.

[@IantheKid125]

My dad has one in his police car. They're really common with law enforcement

[@georgebush-gaming]

Yeah, I know this guy that works as a police officer and has one mounted right next to the drivers seat in his car

[@IantheKid125]

@@georgebush-gaming Very interesting computer indeed

[@Pilotgeek]

That's how I got mine, ex police unit. Over 30k hours but was in pristine condition as it just sat in a car.

[@TotemoGaijin]

I could also see it being used a lot by mechanics.

[@paulluce2557]

I have two . A cf-18 which is ex police which I am looking at some sort of cyber deck project with and a CF52 (i5 model) which lives in van for general computing in workshop etc.

[@fahadsultan4393]

Nokia 3310: Finally a worthy opponent, Our battle will be legendary

[@rarinth]

ThinkPad*

[@cherrypepsi2815]

Its always been ThinkPad vs toughbook

[@RoboJM]

Darn. I was out of golf balls and I was thinking of ordering one of these as a replacement.

[@princeplotena]

Probably not a ball, but a tee, probably!

[@leadergames0661]

Is a school book I have for 30 years considered a tough... book?

[@MirekFe]

bdm tss 🥁

[@amaslam111]

The dad joke level on this is off the charts.

[@MirekFe]

@@amaslam111 Hi hungry. I'm dad. 🙂

[@RoachEditz-911eee]

I had a compaq portable ii and I had to replace the floor because it accidently fell from my hand.

[@CasioMaker]

That's one type of machine I would like to add to my collection.

[@legalizenukes3184]

Same

[@RandomGuy0400]

*cybernetic bronchitis noises*

[@H3LLMAU5]

We all hate this computer at work

[@SxxyCoy]

@@H3LLMAU5 i used to play oldschool RS on it at my toolbox.

[@jacklumbar7061]

I bought on ex mil one several years ago for $200. to run specialist vehicle diagnostic software, It does all asked of it and has been left out in the rain, dropped violently off a vehicle roof being backed out of the bay and left for more than 6 months without being charged when it was 'lost' and following a charge up it works fine. Its about to get a memory upgrade for now and was in use all day yesterday helping repair an old Jaguar.

[@harryrichardshaver]

I use a toughbook cf-19 every day so I was excited to see this video.

[@RandomFandomOfficial]

Omg I remember Circuit City

[@y.h.b.c6191]

I have CF-Y9 panasonic...its a toughbook too?

[@TheCode-X]

is it that the model of the video? i'm thinking about buing a "retro" capable computer for programming and compatibility software usage

[@jstoney6471]

Toughbook was my "Go To" during 25 years of Construction QA/QC. Ugly but still couldn't kill it!

[@RowenHansen]

Challenge: use the toughbook for a day

[@TheAvocracker]

😂😂😂😂

[@NoobGyver]

Thats gonna be tough

[@rpst39]

A week would be better.

[@recordcollector0665]

NoobGyver bruh 😂

[@xPLAYnOfficial]

That's not a challenge. I would love one of those. I currently rock a custom Dell M6300 17" beast. I absolutely love it. Screw thin and light. Hello durable laptops with actual port selection :)

[@aaron69av]

I'm a simple guy- I see a new Psivewri video, I watch.

[@TheOmegaGamer100]

I currently hand these out to my fueling tech's here in California. We give them the CF-53 models. They have i5 3000/4000 series CPU and i give them 8GB of ram along with 256GB ssd and windows 10 and they handle amazing.

[@scientist_nick]

There is something very soothing about your videos man, it’s like tea for vintage tech nerds.

[@superhavi]

Those things are awesome for anyone who likes to do astrophotography. They have all the necessary ports (rs232) and are nearly immune to dew, cold temperatures and frost. They can also be bought extremely cheap at the start of every year, because that's the time when governments replace them with newer models.

[@walker008_]

I don't know what surprised me more, the fact that this thing had such good specs or that you used a flamethrower. 😁 Either way, nice video as always. 👍

[@Pilotgeek]

Great video! I still have a CF29 running XP with over 30k hours, and it's in pristine condition (ex police unit, mostly sat in a car) with an SSD and new battery added. I still keep it around for old phone system programming tools that only run on XP. Even the old ones still have a lot of life for simple jobs such as running a CNC on a shop floor, data collection at a farm or factory, etc.

[@techman2471]

It looked like you had some great stress relief with theat Toughbook!

[@psivewri]

For a short while yes, but then I felt really bad about breaking it ahaha

[@seanharvey1250]

I got a toughbook cf-29 from a guy on FB marketplace complete working one for $50 USD only missing the charger! What a steal!

[@masonwong8007]

You have to remember these laptops by Panasonic and Getac are designed to run old software made in the 90s and 2000s. Both the military and the industries that use these laptops don't need sophisticated software, at least not yet.

[@marcusgurley9495]

Awesome video. I got a Toughbook CF-31 free at a contract gig I did a few years ago. I bumped up the ram and added an SSD and it’s great. It plays retro games great and the burner is really nice. It is a GREAT machine for outdoor DJ’s as it’s weatherproof. Greetings from Atlanta, GA! Glad you’re healing up!

[@Carboxylated]

Excellent in depth over view of your "Toughbook" findings. I remember seeing these whilst in the Military. Thought they were very interesting but also very expensive. I like the hammer to the bottom plate exploit you found. It's a weak spot.

[@RobertDeloyd]

I have 7 ToughBooks 3 CF30, 1 CF19, 2 CF18, 1 CF-28 and I got them all working... you have a lot of what I already have and I guess that's why I like your channel :)

[@grumps5940]

For Old School Runescape, you should use the command ::displayfps to show the fps.

[@y.h.b.c6191]

Im playing League of Legends on this thing🤣

[@sugna82plays61]

Damn, really really enjoyed this video. Your content just gets better and better. It's so refreshing to see such a great Australian tech KZbinr. Thanks from Regional NSW

i didn't know i needed a toughbook. i want to bring my laptop into the shower sometimes to watch videos, so this will be PERFECTION.

[@NixFanBoy007]

Strong little laptops indeed. I picked up my CF-19 mk5 for $250 as an A-Grade refurb. Works great for my work.

[@ondrejsedlak4935]

Damn this brings back some golden memories. These laptoips are absolutely awesome and almost bulletproof. When I was teaching English in Japan, one of my students was an engineer at Panasonic and would always bring in toughbook laptop and tablet prototypes to practice making presentations to potential clients, such as oil companies and various militaries around the world. I couldn't say anything to anyone of course but I did get to play with their latest and greatest for a few years until 2019 when I left.

[@QuantumPotato10]

I’m excited to get my tough pad I just found one for 150$ upgraded with a ssd and new battery im a handyman and can’t wait to put all my manuals and easy guides for troubleshooting and documentation and sever support is awsome!

[@miaugato93]

I saw the specs and i immediately said "yes, you can". I mean, a 1.86Ghz Core 2 Duo T5550 is still usable today, with an SSD ofc. I expected one of the older Toughbooks, like the 2004 models.

[@jackstorm670]

So... Is it bad that I have a worse cpu? (1.65 ghz two core (and i use it for gaming and it doesn't have a graphics card ((it's also a laptop)))

[@JY_Yip]

Nice video. I picked up a fun anecdote off the internet a few years ago. In the early-mid 2000's, a Navy Seabees (Construction) unit was evaluating the Toughbooks for a large government order. Someone was given the obviously false premise that they were "indestructible". So the demonstrator unit was found to have dropped off a multi-story building, hit a pile of rebar on the way down and got run over by a skid loader. Someone important found it and needless to say, they didn't get any more toughbooks that year.

[@neversaynever5157]

i have one of these that been in the family since new at that time it was valued at AU$7000 it has a core 2 Duo intel chip & runs Twister UI Linux over Xubuntu very well , because i love drawing with linux so much i decided to use a Logitech K400 Wireless Keyboard that has a built in track pad works great on any surface far better than a mouse any day the laptop i have is called a CF19

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I used to have one of those at one my jobs and I will say that was my one of my favorite PCs. They are phenomenal computers for work and if you prone to dropping them. They'll survive a couple of falls. :)

[@tom.northshore]

We use these at the fisheries research place where I work, and I gotta say they are nuts. We've had fish splash all over them, dropped them, consistently toss them in the back of our trucks, and use them in extreme temperature fluctuations (from -10F to 90F). They have stood the test of time and still function great. If you're an outdoors guy and want to bring a laptop out while camping or guiding people fishing, this is the computer to get, period. They are awesome. Especially the CF-53

[@psivewri]

I love that they're officially fish splash proof!

[@Moth11]

Lol Psivewri your vids are iconic man. I never thought I would see someone playing golf with an ace and a Panasonic tough book for the golf ball

[@eepymeowers]

There is some recent Japanese Toughbooks that are literally ultra books. They’re thin. And that’s rare to see in a Toughbook.

[@allentoyokawa9068]

just check their website, they still make them tough like this

[@eepymeowers]

@@allentoyokawa9068 true, but I rarely see them on sites like eBay.

[@thermonuclearpotato]

I just got a CF19mk5 from an eBay seller. The office IT mgr said the price was very good for the features, so I went ahead and made the purchase. He was able to get it running as it was missing a few drivers. I use it for tethered photo shoots to get images to the network server and it does well at that. I have also always wanted to own one of these, but yes they were over US$4K new. I am now considering a rugged Dell refurbished model for about US1K, because I have always felt that laptops are quite flimsy and won’t survive field work, including coffee shop trips. Nice video. Take care.

[@matthewjbauer1990]

I have used and worked on those laptops as a warranty vendor for a customer. Panasonic limited the work I could do in the field to basically ordering batteries and HDDs and RAM etc. On dome models I think the CPU came out the bottom if needed (but I never even bothered). Parts are not hard to come by, but Panasonic will not give OEM parts to anyone. They make it extremely difficult. If you want OEM warranty repair (even if you pay for onsite service), you end up sending in the laptop for service in one of their clean rooms.

[@Telletabie]

We Still use this Thinge on the ambulances in my city

[@lexismith8325]

I’m an emt at the is what we have in our ambulances. They are pretty good and are super durable through the elements and snap into its holder on the ambo wall very nicely.

[@rimsarecool2000]

watching off of a panasonic cf-31, I love these laptops.

[@JessicaFEREM]

what a beauty you got there. also I have an HP monitor with 5k hours on it and I used to have a laptop with 4k hours on it. needless to say, I love my products when i use them.

[@oseidwomoh]

Toughbooks. Psivewri Approved.

[@KuntalGhosh]

6:05 that is a hdd heater for use in really cold temperature!

[@CherryTv_CUP]

I have actually myself managed to source one of these model laptops for a stupidly low £4 or $4.97 for you US folk in total fully operational order

[@realslimsh8y]

5 dollars?????? Thats a fucking steal

[@CherryTv_CUP]

@@realslimsh8y yeah, and its currently with me. 4 hour battery life, 4gb ram, SSD and everything all for basically $5 not quick at all but took it to a beach with me and it rocked through the sand

[@rippley.r]

I have one as a main, I bought it in 2015. I love it!

[@DigitalHandle]

I need toughbook right now!

[@StevenPeterson1]

I have tons of CF-30 and CF-31 models. I used to throw them down concrete stairs while powered on with the original HDD and they barely had a scratch and worked perfectly without a hitch.

[@christiann7320]

For most people I think a Lenovo think book would be a good choice. They are pretty sturdy laptops that are going to survive a drop or 2. I just bought a X250 for about 230usd. A average price in my country,but from a refurbishment centre that gives me 5year warranty. I have to say I am happy with my purchase.

[@2S2F1]

My heart broke when u turned the video into a techrax video by smashing the laptop

[@Saabafton]

I would love to have one of these! Sadly, I don't have money for one. And yeah, it's crazy to use one! It's so thick even compared to my old laptop, a Lenovo B50-45 from 2014.

[@Kumbaow]

How much is the tough book he reviewed worth if in perfect condition I have one and I want to sell it

[@yuan.pingchen3056]

The thinkpad series(before skylake) is tough enough for normal outdoor working condition, but you still add some caps to the usb, displayport, e-sata ports to prevent dust intrusion, I love T530, because it has 105 degree celsius TjMAX that means you don't worry about the CPU hit the temperature upper limit that causes thermal-throttling, you just need clean the CPU-radiator every two years.

[@modzsi]

lol, thinkpads are weak stuff compared to a Toughbook

[@yuan.pingchen3056]

@@modzsi cost performance

[@lukehinkle9614]

I remember seeing these in the Air Force back in the early 2000s.

[@5incoPeso]

yo that moment of the second axe attack legit hurt

[@noneofyourbuisness7]

1:37 that was definitely from a cop, firefighter or ems worker writing a nasty gram to the dispatcher who just dispatched them to the crap call they’re going to XD.

[@csn583]

I just bought a CF-20 for $130. It was slightly lower spec than my $4800 8 year old unit, but had 1/4 the uptime hours and was physically and operationally perfect! I'm now considering just swapping my SSD into the one I thought was going to be for parts!

[@St.CrispinsDayGLORY]

Guys, I' brought a Mk6 in 2014 for around $3000AUD. It was and still is in mint condition. On it now. I LOVE the thing! It has been on at least 12 hours a day since then! It runs like a dream. Quietest PC I have ever had. They tried to sell me the update fully rugged model, said not as it can tbe upgraded. I am thinking o fupping the RAM to 16gb, silicon packing the CPU. I dont want to mess with th HDD for SSD swap out. I'll lose the -25C heating element. These things are truly incredible machines. I'm considering Toughbook 40 used, but dunno this is doing the job, is smaller and doesn't need a noisy fan. This is the 1990 Atari of today... Expert told me homes tests are ridiculous and a waste of time and Toughbooks. They are to be respected, IMO. He said if it hits in the wrong spot it can and will be damaged. Your data on the screen in inaccurate. Later model CF-19 screens are NOT 475nits, they are 1200 nits! The highest they made. Probably because CF19 is designed more for sustained outdoor mobile use.

[@ChaseMC215]

I'm fine with my Dell Insparon, thank you.

[@gordonwedman3179]

I have a CF27 and a CF74 that both fine. The CF74 even runs Windows 10. My newest Toughbook is a CF-C2 which can convert to a tablet. Super battery life and plenty fast with an SSD. Only complaint is low volume from one tiny speaker so use earbuds.

[@organiccold]

I use a Toughbook CF-C2 as my daily driver and i love it

[@RustyX2010]

Now I know who I lost the eBay bid to! Only to find out that he was only gonna use it to play golf.

[@samisastro8766]

I have two nos Panasonic Cf-19. Its condition is still very good. Both used for field job.

[@roxcyn]

Wow! Do they make new versions of this computer?

[@marcusgurley9495]

Greetings from Atlanta, GA! I have the Toughbook CF 31 I saved from a junk pile. Great machine. Wish it had the rotating screen though. Great video!

[@DavidsProjekt]

Why destroy the 2nd one? I can't stand people like this. Destroying shit just because.

[@josephpeterparker1016]

I have almost the same one but it’s bigger and a lot more fixed

[@monteanthony1022]

yes buy one. I use mine for network diagnosis and a machine to program my radios and gps deevice while camping. Its also my n64/entertainment/work machine, i take mine with me to every fire season and shes tough. most problems come from the driver installation process. You have to install the drivers in order as well any 2.5 ssd or hdd will work in the hdd enclosure as well. I run windows 10 and kali wl2 in hypervisor mode.dont install linux itself on them unless you have experience compiling and building your own os because everything will be broken and most of the hardware wont be recognized off the bat.Seriously these machines get a bad rap, but its a highly specialized machine with great usability. The running it over test is pretty realistic, I can see someone using it to interface with a canbus. aside from the wifi card you also destroyed the gps chip....

[@dits791]

Looks like it's as tough as the black boxes they use in planes... Loved the flame thrower bit.

[@AlbanianGladiator]

Happy 😊 151K subs

[@rlr240sc]

I have one. I ran Linux mint off of a flash drive. Then installed a ssd hard drive. I like it even though it is bulky.

[@projectwind]

Best REVIEW EVER! I LOVE IT!

[@tylerkinley268]

I just bought a complete cf19 mk8; 2.7ghz, 16gig of ram and a 1tb SSD, for 220 bucks. I just want something durable to throw in my backpack for work. Not a scratch on it, and if I had to guess it probably sat in a cradle most of its life. Want to get a 2nd battery and fill the expansion slots just to make it as maxed out as it can be. A refurbished one is 500-600 American, but I snagged mine on mercari. 3k hours!

[@Graciecanedit]

Love your channel

[@NoahAviation09]

Your videos are amazing !

[@moonsteroid]

installed linux, nice.

[@eyjzdrkxjqzfuhqyzybf]

Installed Ubuntu 16.04 in 2020, not nice.

[@eyjzdrkxjqzfuhqyzybf]

@c6amp 18.04, why not, but the 16.04 is EOL in a few months.

[@mayumi74c]

install kali linux

[@Dac_DT_MKD]

@@mayumi74c Xubuntu would've been a better option, or any other Distro with Xfce DE.

[@PsycosisIncarnated]

@@mayumi74c I was gonna call you an edgelord. But I can see these toughbook being great mobile hacking devices....

[@xy.z]

Finally a new Video 😁 Greets from Bavaria

[@youcann]

The "cheap replacement keyboard" rather seems like the alternative keyboard the CF-18 and CF-19 were offered with.

[@stevec.2702]

I have always lusted after one of these. Used of course, the urge is even greater now.

[@peterparker6584]

did not know this model had a backlit keyboard.

[@howtofixyourtech9945]

Wow! Now the Panasonic toughbook can’t handle psivewri either. I thought it was only plainrock

[@wilson_law]

Question: whereabouts do you purchase the isopropyl alcohol? I found the eucalyptus oil at chemist warehouse.

[@charlessale409]

Just buy isocol!

[@wilson_law]

@@charlessale409 i tried that one. Very expensive with less effect compared to standard alcohol wipes

[@ares9304]

A MK6 CF-19 has been my main portable since 2014. Bought it from my employer when it was retired. I was not fond if its replacement and i kept using it at work. Its still quite snappy with a Samsung 1tb SSD and 16gb of hyperx 2133mhz ram.

[@DakalaShade]

Rocking a refurbished Panasonic CF-31 MK5, complete with 5th Gen. i5-5300U, 8 GB of RAM, and a 200GB SSD. Really nice laptop, even though the screen is 1024x768. Plays games well, as long as you keep in mind that it's only Intel Integrated graphics. I like my 8 hour battery life, and mine does not have the secondary battery. I've got a DVD burner instead. Oh, and I'm still getting used to the touchscreen.

[@JessicaFEREM]

If you can, changing the FPS of the camera should help with the flickering. sadly only some cameras do that, but it's worth a check

[@psivewri]

Changing the shutter speed will often remedy the rolling shutter issue. As I said in the video it is caused by the pulse width modulation. You can't do anything about a shitty screen backlight.

[@silverandblack6141]

if i saw someone at a coffee shop with one of those, id probably pull up a seat next to them and make a new friend immediately

[@hhkk6155]

Cool to upgrade the screen and maybe even the motherboard, this laptop has enough space to swap a MB even from other model

[@jacobdrj101]

I've considered getting used ones for my kids as their laptops... I instead got pro grade HP Workstations that are almost as durable for about $200 each (HP 8670 and HP 8770).

[@heathen8379]

These damn things are the bane of my IT career. The models I work with have almost no Win10 drivers, with only Win8 or 7 driver packs on Panasonic's site. Might not seem like a huge issue until you start trying to use it for anything other then MS Office and web browsing.

[@TheKDKCollector]

These are basically the Nokia 3310s of the laptop world

[@leorigby3069]

Love my CF-AX3 not as tough as them things but good enough to be my daily driver

[@klnnurv]

I replaced the keyboard on my CF-18 last year. The early model keyboards have a vulnerability to water where the layers join together under the spacebar.

[@joshfriesen9401]

244 days that laptop had been running? My old 2011 iMac had an old failing hard drive that ran for exactly 23 months, 16 hours and 53 minutes before it sadly started grinding and never booted again.