Should You Buy Superior Drummer 3?

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It’s been long overdue, Superior Drummer 3 has just been announced. But the REAL question is, should you buy it. Let’s break down what’s inside. Here are the 14 features you should know about:
1. Everything was recorded by George Massenburg In Galaxy Studios in Belgium.
2. Inside SD3 there are 6 Kits, 25 snares, 16 kicks, and 33 cymbals.
3. The dowload is 230 GB (Thankfully it's broken up, you don’t HAVE to download all of it)
4. Everything was recorded in 11.1 that means 11 mics where used for every drum you hear placed at different heights around the room.
5. You can finally detach elements of the software from the main program and drag it over to a secondary monitor.
6. Rescale Window (in SD2, you couldn't resize anything)
7. Superior Drummer 3 is backwards compatible with Expansions Packs from Ezdrummer 2 and Superior Drummer 2.
8. There's Drum Replacement Software included (They call it TRACKER) you can blend the samples with your previous recording as well.
9. SD3 lets you import 3rd Party Samples
10. There is adjustable Bleed from other instruments
11. Macros edit section
12. There's a selection of about 350 Electronic Drum Sounds
13. Midi Trigger Default Configs Presets for different electronic drum brands, including roland/yamaha/alesis/kat/millennium/ect.
14. Hardware Requirements:
For Macs and PCs: Multi-core Intel processor, 8GB RAM or more recommended, 236GB disk space (additional 55GB needed during install)
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@Vdrumtips1
@Vdrumtips1 7 жыл бұрын
I think for people that trigger VSTs with an edrumset, SD3 is a must. EZD2 is not good enough, the hihat for example does not work as well. IN SD3 you can adjust the trigger settings.
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 жыл бұрын
That's true. I've never gotten it to work 100% perfectly in Superior Drummer 2 either, but I've heard it's possible to dial it in perfectly. I just havn't figured it out yet.
@remsim
@remsim 7 жыл бұрын
Totaly agreed. In ED2 no midi learn function, you can't adjust snare side stick volume, hihat control is not good enough. BFD 3 is much better than ED2. But now SD3 is way better than BFD3. So i'm going to upgrade from SD2 to SD3 and move BFD3 to trash...
@Colognedrummerboy
@Colognedrummerboy 7 жыл бұрын
Vdrum Tips yeah,that's great. I had the feature in bfd already and it was just a question of time that Toontrack would adapt it ;-)
@Colognedrummerboy
@Colognedrummerboy 7 жыл бұрын
65 Drums wouldn't it be great if Toontrack would integrate the possibility of designing several drumkits that can be called up by midi? That would make SD3 the perfect Tool for E-Drummers under Live Condition!!!
@christine3043
@christine3043 7 жыл бұрын
So what's your opinion on Addictive Drums? Is SD3 the best or is it a personal choice?
@darkflamesquirrel
@darkflamesquirrel 7 жыл бұрын
"...heck you can even load an entire song and assign it to Tom 1 if you want to" I am uncomfortable
@thedrumdoctor
@thedrumdoctor 4 жыл бұрын
I have SD2 and I bought a cross-grade to SD3 and downloaded the whole library. I was impressed with the new interface and the way it could be resized (huge oversight on SD2) and all those sound libraries were a new box of toys. I have a TD-20 with VH-11 and the Roland 3 x zone Ride and I could find no real-world noticeable improvement in how the MIDI information was processed to the end result. After spending a couple of weeks with it, I had a huge lightbulb moment... I had originally assumed, any reservations I had with my SD2 installation would be magically transformed with SD3. How wrong I was. The ugly truth was, I had jumped into SD3 without *really* trying to push SD2 to its limits. What I mean by this, is what happens via manipulating the sounds in the software itself or in a DAW. There were no issues going to be fixed by my limitations of module and e-drum hardware in SD3, it was always going to be about the sounds. Again, the ugly truth remained, despite all my time in studios since my first juvenile experience in 1984, I still knew nothing about compression or EQ and that is folks, where the magic lies - especially if you’re producing drum tracks for musical collaboration. On its own SD3 is an Aladdin’s cave of solo drum sounds, which is fine if you want a drums-only studio playback experience. However, if you are trying to produce something that will sit within the sound layers of guitars, bass, vocals and keyboards, then you’re really going to have to accept that your skills will be better used in learning how to make a Bass Drum sit with a Bass track so it doesn’t occupy the same frequency and can be heard without simply pushing its volume up. So for me, I quickly figured SD3 wasn’t going to do this for me and I had everything I needed in SD2 but seriously lacked in my own personal skills in post-production. As such, I sold my SD3 license and started to learn about processing the samples in my SDXs in SD2. Many producers still use SD2 to capture a performance and then work their magic later on in the mixing. So for me, with no real benefits interpreting what I was playing via my module into a DAW, SD3 was no improvement for the money. I already had great sounding raw takes using SD2 so my focus has since been learning on improving my post-production techniques.
@soulgirl62
@soulgirl62 3 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful for me as i have just bought an SPD SXe . How easy is it to import SD2 / 3 into the sampler and what leads would i need please ?
@thedrumdoctor
@thedrumdoctor 3 жыл бұрын
@@soulgirl62 If it is the stand-alone SPD-SX pad, you cannot import the sounds from the SD software. You have to trigger the sounds via a computer from the pads. This is done via USB or MIDI lead.
@chapbot2023
@chapbot2023 7 жыл бұрын
The most important question is not addressed: how does it sound in comparison to Superior 2?
@issiewizzie
@issiewizzie 6 жыл бұрын
A very honest advice .... I have logic drummer and a few IOS drum apps . I question everyday as a hobbie musician what I'm I trying to achieve
@kennethgibson5728
@kennethgibson5728 7 жыл бұрын
"we're gonna need a bigger solid state drive.."
@DWRhythm
@DWRhythm 7 жыл бұрын
I used to use Superior Drummer 2, however, I switched to Addictive Drums 2 when I lost my vision at the end of 2015, because Superior's interface and the fact their expansions always changed the kit layout and arrow location, made it impracticle for making it accessible for screen readers. The fact there are no keyboard shortcuts didn't help the cause either, and introducing a resizable window made it worse. Additionally, the system requirements are those of a fancy computer, so not only would you need a good module to trigger the VST, you'd need to spend a good bit of money on a computer to house it, then well yeah.... Eek!
@doctari1061
@doctari1061 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this info. I own EXD2 and just found out about SD3. In response to your question, I'm just a hobbyist but I'll be buying this upgrade just because I can. I'm one of those guys that just like to have everything available at my fingertips "just in case" I have some brainfart or want to tweak some small thing.
@shatteredsquare
@shatteredsquare 7 жыл бұрын
for the software functionality you get and the sound quality of the samples, 400 bucks is nothing. if all the functionality of SD3 was in a hardware box like a TD-1000, the module itself would be $3000. but since you already have a $2000 computer, all you have to pay for is the data. 200 bucks for an upgrade from SD2 is stooooooopid for what comes in it. i can't wait to see how well tracker does with audio tracks of me beating on random things with my hands, or beatboxing.
@DennisMartenssonOfficial
@DennisMartenssonOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't think $400 is necessarily that much. A single good e-drum pad can go for that. And comparing to some modules it's a steal. I'm not saying it's CHEAP by any means, just saying, some people go the route of getting like a Pearl Mimic Pro because they like the sounds, others buy an eDRUMin and Superior Drummer 3. $2549 vs $768 ($349 for an eDRUMin 10, $419 for Superior Drummer 3). Again, not saying it's cheap, but not necessarily outrageously expensive when put in perspective. That said, I have no idea why they're marketing the surround capabilities so hard, when I honestly can't think of a single use case. I guess in a movie where someone plays drums? Would be kinda neat, I guess? Can't help but feeling like everyone buying this pays a bit extra for something they will never use. Would instead like the see the base price lowered, and the surround samples included as an addon.
@kemetfirst315
@kemetfirst315 7 жыл бұрын
Addictive Drummer 2 does the job.SD3 is way to expensive but it's cheaper than getting a Pearl Mimic Pro!
@drumilo8814
@drumilo8814 5 жыл бұрын
I use AD2 but I never got a snare sound I like.
@markricher7362
@markricher7362 7 жыл бұрын
If Superior Drummer 3 sold with Alesis Strike Pro kits, they would murder Roland and Yamaha.
@Chilajuana
@Chilajuana 4 жыл бұрын
I have EZ Drummer but I think it sounds so midi like. I'm thinking about purchasing Superior Drummer 3....
@TheShyArmyTV
@TheShyArmyTV 4 жыл бұрын
Yup !!!
@andrewshaba2544
@andrewshaba2544 5 жыл бұрын
Got EZ drummer 2, I use it Midi with my Roland TD-17KVX. Honestly wish I never did because now I can’t play without EZ Drummer on.
@machiavellian7490
@machiavellian7490 5 жыл бұрын
Have bought it started to download a week ago have cancelled my 6 year old daughters wedding wen she turns 25 as I think I’ll still be here downloading sd3
@connyblomqvist3648
@connyblomqvist3648 5 жыл бұрын
I use EZ drummer 2 and it works perfekt..Im gona wait for a few years more untill superiordrummer drops in price😀
@YoBroMan
@YoBroMan 7 жыл бұрын
Being able to convert performance to MIDI is worth the price of admission. Prior to this, you had to use DrumTracker which was very difficult to use and very clumsy.
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters 3 жыл бұрын
I finally picked it up today, but kind of regret it. I'm actually not super impressed with the sound quality. There's a lot of background noise. Also, some of the samples have horrible unwanted frequencies. For example some of the stackers you can actually hear the low end thump from the mic stand picking up the impact of of the strike through the floor. The fact that they actually let this get on there with such a high price tag is pretty bad. I haven't spent a ton of time with it yet, so hopefully my opinion will improve once I spend more time with it.
@demonicsweaters
@demonicsweaters 3 жыл бұрын
Spent a bit more time and now I'm starting to like it, but first impressions were pretty rough. The default kit sounds pretty awful, but I guess this was the case with EZDrummer 2 as well. Thankfully SD3 does have a lot of tweakability, so you can dial it in. Still not crazy about the noise level, nor the overall lowness of the output. Will be diving into it more the next few weeks and hopefully make some vids on it.
@garybardrick311
@garybardrick311 7 жыл бұрын
Will possibly buy it. Have SD2 so its only $200 upgrade. Must admit it does look nice
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 жыл бұрын
I'm still on the fence for now. I own SD2 as well
@SamiK1989
@SamiK1989 4 жыл бұрын
Can I get a YUP-YUUUUP for all my GetGooddrums mates over here? 😂🤛🙌
@camdenwyeth316
@camdenwyeth316 4 жыл бұрын
Does GGD work for pop punk/indie style stuff as well?
@musicmxer69
@musicmxer69 7 жыл бұрын
Been using Steven Slate Platinum for a while now. Runs fast and sounds awesome. It really makes playing my TD30K a lot more fun (it is a sick drum set to begin with) to play around with and practice. Love the Green Day (playing along to The Ramones all day long) and Metallica (that snare is wicked). I am saving my bennies for the next Slate update... It works for me. I am tired of being disappointed with gear. I'll stick with what works.
@manuger
@manuger 4 жыл бұрын
I started with EZD2 and then upgraded to SD3 and it is awesome. I love the fact that I can map the pads to what ever I choose with my edrum.
@theyconsiderthis
@theyconsiderthis 7 жыл бұрын
I'm using GGD as a Kontakt instrument and love it. SD3 looks awesome, but it has way more than I'd ever need.
@poldivina27
@poldivina27 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have any issues on mapping it to your kit?
@MesaMXR
@MesaMXR 7 жыл бұрын
I've got Superior 2. Would love it if they sold the new software without any libraries just so I could import my old ones and get new functionality.
@JoshCameron
@JoshCameron 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Justin! Really enjoyed this and you had some great points about the software and its applicability 👍🏻 I will be getting it anyhow because I already have a few SDX packs and of course SD2.0 🙌🏻
@peteharman1061
@peteharman1061 3 жыл бұрын
i have BFD3 and am having problems with the connected VH11 hats. i cant get it to recognise the open/closing.and im told that SD3 will work with my set up. How can i find out before buying that it will work. VH11 /TD9 / Focusrite 18i8 /iMac SSD 2TB internal drive Mem 32 GB. Do we musicians have to become technicians order to do what we all set out to do which is to PLAY MUSIC ...ANY HELP OUT THERE ? will be much appreciated thanks in advance.
@joshrathbun1
@joshrathbun1 3 жыл бұрын
Can you load SD3 onto the new Ipad Pro 12.9" 1TB (2021) with 16GB or RAM?
@Drumming-Life
@Drumming-Life 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to decide between Easy Drummer 2 and Superior Drummer 3. Just converted an acoustic kit and am currently using Roland TD-11 modules. I want to escape being tied up to those modules and want a professional sound. Do I use a mixer from my laptop or can I go out from laptop to any module such as a TD-10 module? Trying to learn this as quickly as I can.
@rik-keymusic160
@rik-keymusic160 Жыл бұрын
Well, i got addictive drums 2 for free with a focusrite interface… i won’t say it’s all bad but the controls are a bit old and clunky. Design wise, I don’t really like it but it doesn’t sound all to bad either… I’m going to buy superior drummer in the future just because that galaxy studio is actually a few 100m away from where i live 😅 but especially for the quality of it of course
@xerix10
@xerix10 7 жыл бұрын
for people using edrum for example roland TD50 -- SD3 is an important upgrade because the hihat and GUI isnt good enough with SD2. if your making drums using MIDI/samples, then not that important to upgrade
@LysanderLH
@LysanderLH 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a professional drummer and I recently bought my first kit TD27kv. I’m a guitarist. What I want is for someone else to have created kit emulations that I can load into my module and start playing. Does that exist?
@PeachesChrenko
@PeachesChrenko Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video thank you. I'm so torn between theses.
@AwakenedWookie
@AwakenedWookie Жыл бұрын
The price of this software and the accompanying expansion packs is ludicrous. Completely unaffordable for most home studio owners.
@ronnieremark3355
@ronnieremark3355 3 жыл бұрын
I need a sound upgrade for my Roland Td-15. My kit is solid, just need some new sounds! Bad!? What’s the best free/inexpensive vst?
@fredmanteghian5913
@fredmanteghian5913 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’ve struggled with the groove editor in BFD3 for years and am considering a move to SD3. This video was helpful.
@Snareheadkiller
@Snareheadkiller 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I’ve been playing drums for close to thirty years now, I know, I’m getting to old for this.. NOT! Anyway, I’ve used Roland ekits here and there, but about 5 years ago decided to go all electric. I have a Roland TD-30 full v-drum kit that I’ve been using as my main playing out/ gigging kit. And yes, if you take a lot of time fooling around with all the effects, sound parameters, mic placement, different rooms and sizes etc. etc., I’ve found that just by using what’s on the module itself, I can configure pretty much any drum kits to sound just like live acoustic drums or make specific kits to sound exactly like any artists song recordings I’m either just listening to or for playing live shows etc. I now have a Roland TD-50 fully customized v-drum kit and instead of spending hours/days working on one drum set, I’ve been thinking about trying my hand at VSTs especially from everything I’ve heard about Superior Drummer 3. And yes, I’m one of those kind of people that must have the full Monty, go big and in debt..lol! I like having choices, OCD will do that to ya. So now the fun part, I have no clue where to start with going about doing this since Ive never done it before. What advice do you have for someone like me who’s about to pop their cherry with VST? I have a short attention span, so the shortest/easiest explanations would be appreciated..lol! I’m not getting any younger and I want to broaden my horizons more with edrumming. Anything anyone can seriously help me out with getting started using VSTs with my edrums is greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance for your time.
@JimmyBlimps
@JimmyBlimps 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man Id be happy to try and steer you in the right direction. I'll try and give a short breakdown of what you need to know, and it anything throws you let me know and I'll try and get back to you. 1. Digital Audio Workstation or DAW for short. You're gonna need one. It's a software package, and there's loads to chose from - Ableton, Logic, Cubase, Protools, Reaper, Studio One etc. I recommend Reaper, it's brilliant at handling VSTs, and makes tracking your ideas a breeze and is just all around some seriously powerful and customizable recording software - and you can trial it with full functionality indefinitely, and a license is only $60 if you like it. 2. You'll need a piece of hardware called an audio interface, and preferably one that handles MIDI if your Roland module doesn't output MIDI over USB. Focusrite and Presonus are pretty reputable, but you can find interfaces from loads of different manufacturers. 3. Setup. Connect your audio interface to your PC. Connect your speakers to your audio interface output. Connect your edrums to your PC if USB, or to your audio interface if it uses MIDI cables. Install drivers to your computer for both the audio interface & edrums if required (some hardware is plug and play). In your DAW settings, set your audio device to your audio interface, and add your edrums as a MIDI device in the MIDI settings. You should now be able to create a new track in your DAW, arm it and set the input to your edrums, and in the FX section of your track add Superior Drummer 3 (for example). You may need to enable monitoring for your track too so you can hear the output. At this point you should now be able to play your edrums, and Superior Drummer will recognise the incoming MIDI and be outputting samples. SD3 likely includes a profile for your particular edrum kit, however if you have customised it then you will likely need to spend a bit of time in SD3's settings mapping your specific drumkit to the software. If your drums put out MIDI over USB and you're wondering why you even need an audio interface, this is to minimize latency which is pretty much mandatory if you want to be able to hear back what you play in real time. There is a great channel here on YT called Reaper Mania that has a super easy to follow beginners guide to Reaper if that will run you through everything I talked about. I highly recommend that if you decide to go with Reaper as your DAW. Good luck!
@srenbengtsson4339
@srenbengtsson4339 4 жыл бұрын
I own Addictive Drums. Its simply not good enough, there is not enough ajustments possibillity for the velocity and sensitivity og the drums. Therefore i consiter to buy superior drummer 3
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns 7 жыл бұрын
I own SD2 as well as Steven Slate Drums 4, I will do the upgrade the day it comes out, and will most likely upgrade to SSD5 when it comes out. These are amazing tools for a musician/songwriter, especially since I can't even play a GoGo's beat.....
@reubzflows6596
@reubzflows6596 2 жыл бұрын
I want sd3 but was wondering if I would be better buying ezd2 and upgrading to sd3 so I have both programs...is there any benefit to this or should I just go ahead and only buy sd3?
@levi6296
@levi6296 7 жыл бұрын
I own BFD 2, EZDrummer2 and Superior Drummer 2, and Superior drummer (hands down) has the best sounds for drums that I have heard. The guys at Toontrack also show much appreciation for heavy metal music and taylor a lot of their expansions for heavy metal music (which is very cool). I have already pre-ordered my copy (upgrade from 2). If you record music for release, I would suggest spending the extra dime for Superior. I would HIGHLY advise against torrent. The samples for superior drummer are high quality and save a lot of time, and the money saved (not having to buy drum mics, preamps, compressors, gates, THE DRUM ROOM) is well worth the expense and downloading SD3 from torrent would be a waste of Toontrack's hard work and money. I would recommend showing the guys at Toontrack some love by buying the software (I do not work for Toontrack..lol)
@jonte3132
@jonte3132 7 жыл бұрын
I'd stick with addictive drummer 2, its more than enough.
@jerrinthomasofficial
@jerrinthomasofficial 7 жыл бұрын
Jonte The same here!
@mikaelandersson6662
@mikaelandersson6662 7 жыл бұрын
Tap2Find FTW !
@jonte3132
@jonte3132 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Superior drummer 3 is really overkill, other than the good looking GUI its really not necessary... And saving money really wise too, spending it all on drum software doesnt leave you with any to spend on your e-kit.
@islanddreaming8591
@islanddreaming8591 7 жыл бұрын
maybe overkill for you .., there are some of us that will use every feature available to it's fullest and still wish it had more .., eDrum guys are the absolute minority of Toontracks user base who will be buying or upgrading to SD3
@jonte3132
@jonte3132 7 жыл бұрын
Youre right, this isnt consumer friendly. its only comprehendable by usage in studios.
@Flamamacue
@Flamamacue 2 жыл бұрын
I've used AD2 for a few years now, but I think SD3 has better offerings and will upgrade
@matthewfischer3312
@matthewfischer3312 Жыл бұрын
Question, should someone STILL buy SD3 in 2022? Will it be moving to version 4 soon?
@christskingdom8950
@christskingdom8950 5 жыл бұрын
How can we get the 1/2 off deal? I have 2.0 and want 3.0. I bought my 2.0 from Toontrack direct.
@afterglow-podcast
@afterglow-podcast 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at switching over to sampling software right now. I own a Roland TD-9 version 2. If I purchase Superior Drummer 3, a Presonus Audiobox USB 96, and a MIDI cable and set everything up on my laptop, will that be all I need to use samples?
@ralphgehteha9924
@ralphgehteha9924 7 жыл бұрын
Sold. For the improved UI alone. And the cross/upgrade price is very moderate if you consider the sound quality compared to the still crappy module sound of today.
@MikeLuke
@MikeLuke 7 жыл бұрын
Well, so I really have to answer your questions? ;) Nice one, Justin. Great overview.
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 жыл бұрын
I'm just saying I know when to step back, and let the real experts do the talking lol, glad you liked the video :)
@Sissling
@Sissling 5 жыл бұрын
I have addicted drums and Ez drummer 2 . But Im not thrilled with the trigger settings when I use my Roland e drums. So im planning to buy Superior drummer 3 , because as I understand , the trigger settings is more realistick feeling and much more options. You didd´nt talked about that
@65Drums
@65Drums 5 жыл бұрын
Yes there are MANY more trigger settings inside of superior Drummer 2 and 3 compared to EZdrummer. It's a big advantage.
@RYANROOTPHOTO
@RYANROOTPHOTO 7 жыл бұрын
Could I store all the gigs of this download on an external hard drive? GREAT VIDEO by the way. I'll sub ya.
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 жыл бұрын
I belive you can store that stuff on a secondary drive, not 100% sure though. Glad you liked the video :)
@karlmorrison2713
@karlmorrison2713 6 жыл бұрын
Wtf? Of course you can.
@Harrysound
@Harrysound 7 жыл бұрын
I have Addictive drums, Studio Drummer, steven Slate 3.5, steven slate 4.0, Ez Drummer and Superior Drummer. This looks to be everything I want in one package
@hogblockula9335
@hogblockula9335 7 жыл бұрын
I think SD3 is aimed more at producers/songwriters, not people who play edrums. Get drumforge if you want something like this.
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 жыл бұрын
There is no VST designed JUST of edrums. But Toontrack makes sure that the superior Drummer line always has indepth Midi editing features/trigger controls to make it work well with edrums.
@CarmineStrollo
@CarmineStrollo 5 жыл бұрын
I am looking for performance level kits. I have all my roland pads and triggers. I tried a TD17...had a few kits that cut it but not worth the price overall...too limited. I can't afford the big boys at 6-7K. I am looking SD3 or the Roland Mimic. 400.00 vs 2000.00...trying to decide...any thoughts for a live gigging drummer?
@BBBri57
@BBBri57 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Carmine, I had the same question. I used a real kit with roland triggers and Steven Slate Trigger live. It made my acoustic kit sound a lot better generally, but not for the fine stuff. You have to get into the sensitivity and all that, and drum triggers are not as accurate as good quality pads. So I bought the TD50 upgrade pack. the sounds that come with that very expensive module are a real letdown. But fortunately, that experience led me here. SSD5 has great sounding drums but the cymbals sound better with SD3, plus the hi hat match with the roland VH-13 made up my mind for me. Finally I have a great sounding kit that responds to how I play, with real sounding hi hats. I have waited a long time for this so in my view get the TD-50 if you can afford it or the TD-30 or TD 25 with the VH-13 hi hat - or an edrum set of similar quality, and this software. But hey, Im no expert hahaha! If you buy this software you will have a lot of ermahgerd and wow moments because everything sounds so incredible. Thanks for the video 65drums. It made my mind up and I really appreciate your help!
@matthewmore6893
@matthewmore6893 5 жыл бұрын
Dont get the td 17. I have the alesis strike and I put ezdrummer 2 superior drummer 2/3 etc. It works great no latency. Use sdse software
@kevinhorsley8822
@kevinhorsley8822 5 жыл бұрын
Well when you consider the drums are great quality. It beats studio prices
@TomRivieremusic
@TomRivieremusic 7 жыл бұрын
Great info. I have Superior 1 .If I buy this update, can I download it all on an external hard drive ?
@mapofreality
@mapofreality 7 жыл бұрын
This is defiantly more for producers and studios. I like the idea that you can mix everything in the plugin but it's also another mixing DAW inside your own DAW to learn how to use. I use EZdrummer, Logic Pro/Garageband Drums + a few others. I'll upgrade eventual, but not at the moment.
@StevesRykerAdventures
@StevesRykerAdventures 7 жыл бұрын
Just bought a TD-11K....I have the cash to buy SD3. I've played acoustic drums almost exclusively my whole life, although had a stint with a very old Pearl E-kit and the HD-1 from Roland. I was very disappointed with the HD-1 sounds, but needed it for apartment living at the time. So, with the ability to use these sounds with the TD-11K, I feel like I might get the best of both worlds..almost. I think you may have talked me into it...I won't be moving the kit around, it will be used at home. I already own a computer that can handle it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but once the sounds are triggered and saved...I can go back and adjust/change the sound of any trigger..correct? That seems very cool to me if true. I'm hoping to lay some tracks down for my son's tunes as well. I'm thinking this will do the trick nicely. Any thoughts you might add?
@MarkArandjus
@MarkArandjus 7 жыл бұрын
So I don't neeeed it, I'm not a pro musician (I'm one of those hobby guys, hehe) ... but goddamnit I am a pro UI designer and I do love those graphics and UI :D I hope expansions have custom graphics like in EZ drummer as well. When I think about it: I bought SD2 at the last Black Friday sale for 88€, which came with the Avatar kit, so if I'll get SD3 for half price... that's SD3 which includes six kits + Avatar kit for a total of 267€ (313$)... that's a tempting deal indeed! Thanks, informative video, my dude!
@biekanez1
@biekanez1 7 жыл бұрын
Hello Justin. I do own Addictive drum1+2, SSD platinum4, recently I bought SD 2. This is for sure far out the best drum software I own. I always buy my music gear at Thomann in Germany. It's the greatest music store of Europe and with a great service. I ordered my SD 2 with some SDX packs when it was for sale with a discount a week or so ago. They all came in nice boxes and cd-roms. But with license number I could also download the software from Toontrack themselves. But maybe I'm old fashioned, I like when I have the software on CD-roms to, it feels more secure!🙂👍
@3forparker
@3forparker 7 жыл бұрын
The resizable GUI should have been an update in SD2. It ticks me off that instead of fixing obvious problems in SD2, they instead roll it out in SD3, and want to charge $209 for the upgrade. Yeah, I get that they spent a pile of money on this, but I can't help but feel like they're trying to rip me off. (I have SD2, EZ2, but at $209 for the upgrade, Addictive Drums would be my next choice.)
@mikaelandersson6662
@mikaelandersson6662 7 жыл бұрын
That's why people download stuff with torrents I guess !
@biekanez1
@biekanez1 7 жыл бұрын
I do own Addictive drums 1 and 2, when you already do own SD 2 I think you will be disappointed of the sounds in Addictive drums. Greetings Rob from the Netherlands
@downwarddog7771
@downwarddog7771 7 жыл бұрын
The architecture that plugins were built on in the past did not allow for expandable interfaces... Thats why until recently no plugins had them. Superior 2 has been around for like 7 or 8 years...which is ancient for software. Toontrack mentioned that this was built from the ground up... As a software developer myself I can tell you that this means it was build on a new platform, which is probably why we are now getting the much needed expandable interface.
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 7 жыл бұрын
Its not just a quick fix to reprogram software to do things it couldn't do. Also SD3 lets you use all your old kits but more importantly has way more features and an incredibly sampled set of instruments (well above SD2's stock kit)
@louderthangod
@louderthangod 7 жыл бұрын
What do you think is a fair price? $200 seems totally reasonable to me but if I was still in college then it would be probably something I wouldn't buy because it would be a major purchase. What's a reasonable price depends on a lot of factors.
@demonocusmetalocus3558
@demonocusmetalocus3558 7 жыл бұрын
Is it easy to use? If theres a big learning curve than i'm not interested ,i just want to play drums not spend months learning new software so its got to be easy to use or at least quick to figure out.
@DatAnydeks
@DatAnydeks 7 жыл бұрын
I've got SD2, Roots, Slate, EZ2 + X packages. Not being a drummer, I'm really looking fwd to SD3. Song Creator in Superior is what I waited for among other things. This upgrade will also be sort of a 'consolidation' of drum resources, since I've been working with SD2 and EZ 'edit play mode' + Song Creator. With SD3 it'll be an 'all-in-one' for me which I'm happy about.
@sarahtonin4649
@sarahtonin4649 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think at the end of the day, i.e., within the song the samples are played, that anyone, including professionals, are going to HEAR the difference. I've done too many blind listening tests with audio pros to believe otherwise. So personally, I think it's overhyped, and overkill. Also, I have no desire to spend hours processing samples to get "just the right" snare, or kick, or toms, or cowbell, or whatever, when I can just choose the right sound from a large library, and I never use loops. So much of the expense of this collection is for bells and whistles I don't need. In fact, I don't want effects built in, or a midi grid. If I wanted to spend that much time on attention to virtual drum kit details, I'd rather just record a drummer playing drums. But there is always going to be a market among hobbyists who will buy the most expensive everything, if they can, believing that is the secret to great recordings. Well, it ain't.
@carlluther2099
@carlluther2099 9 ай бұрын
I will buy it as soon as I can resolve all latency issues.
@adamasensio
@adamasensio 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to buy a drum software for my roland td25kv. But that's to much to me just for drum software, moreover the software takes ~230GB on your MEMORY ! That's INSANE ! So You should buy a new hard drive (sdd is the best) plus the software that's out space.
@jayrocknurse5386
@jayrocknurse5386 7 жыл бұрын
Hi. I've been using and enjoying EZ Drummer 2 for a few years. I'm 63 years young and I only play Rock N Roll. As much as I love Neil Peart, I'm not able to think or write like that. Give me Don Brewer or Ringo Starr and I'll be more than happy. Thanks for talking about EZ 3. I don't think that it's for me. Again Thanks and Rock On!
@stardust-reverie
@stardust-reverie 5 жыл бұрын
i think this is really marked down on plugin boutique, if i remember right it’s something like $299 the only thing even remotely resembling drum software that i have right now is a bunch of crappy samples downloaded from various places on the internet and i’m looking to seriously step up my drum programming game
@WilliamSaadGuitar
@WilliamSaadGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
I use DrumPerfect Pro on iPad and I love it. Amazing ready made Brazilian rhythms that I use in my recordings...great piece of software and not expensive...
@ChristopherJones-cjphoto
@ChristopherJones-cjphoto 7 жыл бұрын
I play yamaha DXTreme3 with a Macbook and Superior Drummer 2. I am buying SD3 in 6 days, hoping to overcome some of the shortcomings of SD2. I also own a vintage set of Yamaha Maple Custom acoustic drums, but prefer the electronic so as to remain quiet at night.
@bobbyjones2112
@bobbyjones2112 3 жыл бұрын
Can I use this software without the a drum module? If so what do I need to buy like an interface, if that’s even possible?
@WaynePryce
@WaynePryce 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.. you use it as a vst and trigger from keyboard
@fraserp2377
@fraserp2377 7 жыл бұрын
I have superior drummer 2. I would want to hear some samples before shelling out over $200, the interface improvements look nice but not worth the money from what I can tell. My main concern is that I am now guessing Toontrack will no longer release SD2 compatible expansion packs and I only bought it a few months ago.. Such is life..
@АлександрЛисов-г3к
@АлександрЛисов-г3к 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Justin. Are Yamaha cymbals good for repetitions and recording? I'm going to buy three PCY135 cymbals for my custom set. What the cheapest module should I buy to use it with these cymbals? Sorry for a lot of questions.
@RFrostie
@RFrostie 7 жыл бұрын
I have SD2 and it's great. Triggered by edrums. The triggers look better than SD2, particularly the hihat, it also appears to be easier to trigger centre and edge hits on a snare drum for example. Also much more drum manipulation available on a more user friendly GUI. I don't think that all the new effects modules are that necessary for a user who has a range of 3rd party VST plug ins and who mainly uses their DAW for effects. I think the Tracker feature is really cool, now I can replace all my bad drum microphone placing from years ago and give an old tune new life. The new core library is great (much bigger) but the download is going to be epic. 230 gigs!! I don't think I am going to download the surround options any time soon as I am not mixing for movies. All in all I think the improvements are well thought out, just going to have to download them bit by bit.
@JamesHarris-hl2bm
@JamesHarris-hl2bm 7 жыл бұрын
There is no way you are not going to buy this if you've owned Drumkit from hell superior, Superior Drummer 2 and now this? I picked it up the day it became available, as I've purchased the other two I mentioned above and as usual, Toontrack lives up to the hype.
@tombuur
@tombuur 7 жыл бұрын
I have used SD2 since it was launched many years ago. I would pay the $200 upgrade for the software even without samples if I had to.
@totigerus
@totigerus 5 жыл бұрын
Any love for BFD3?
@scoreandsound
@scoreandsound 5 жыл бұрын
I think BFD 3 is better
@AndersonCustomGuitar
@AndersonCustomGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
I have the SD3 upgrade it does sound great but don't be fooled there are still issues with triggering VH11 hihats and miss triggering. I'm going on three days trying to get this dialed in. I'm planning on the Mimic Pro, SD3 is fun to play around with, but for playing live a module is the way to go! Too many things can go wrong with a laptop.
@dougcatuogno4603
@dougcatuogno4603 7 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I told you I wasn't very tech savvy, being a much older generation....I should have included clumsy as well. Addictive drums was recommended to me by someone and I' d be interested in your thoughts.......thanks
@JohnGillEnvelopeEquation
@JohnGillEnvelopeEquation 7 жыл бұрын
I bought SD2 when it was on sale, but really I think I would have been better off with EzyDrummer. If upgrade is only about 200 from SD2 to SD3, then I might get it.
@annacallegari6470
@annacallegari6470 7 жыл бұрын
I've been using Native Instruments Kontakt drum packages (Battery 4, Studio Drummer and Abbey Roads60's Drummer, 70's Drummer, 80's Drummer, and Modern Drummer. Prior to purchasing a TD-30K kit, I recorded 6 albums using these VSTs and either banging on keyboards or Alesis Control pad, then editing the performance in Logic Pro. Since I've had the Roland Kit, I haven't recorded anything, but I find that Roland drums really mix well with music, as opposed to VSTs which require tons of processing to really mesh with the music. I like the sounds of Native Instrument kits, but it's a real hassle to get it set up with the v-drum kit. So having worked so long with VSTs and only recently getting into V-drums, I find the Roland sounds really good and versatile, once you figure out how to reprogram your own sounds. Too many people are bashing V-drum modules, but getting good recordings out of VSTs when mixed within a full song context can be very challenging. It's nice to be able to just turn on your module and jam, rather than having to fire up your computer, software, select the kits, mess around with settings, etc. The immediacy is why I got them and why I play every day. If you're recording, having a full sonic arsenal is important, but for practicing and rehearsing, the module is just fine.
@minerman1970
@minerman1970 7 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, I'm pretty sure SD3 will have the "X-drum" feature (use different kit pieces from different expansion packs), but honestly, I've been waiting a long time for this, so I will be buying it, no question... You wouldn't believe the amount of $$$ I have tied up in just drum software...I didn't buy it all at once, but over the past 8-9 years, I've accumulated a lot of stuff...I also have some unique kits I made using drum tracks/samples my internet buddies recorded & sent me... For me, space isn't an issue, I have 6tb of disc space in my computer, with 16gb ram & only one uses USB2 (the others are either internal sata or usb3, which is almost the same as internal), so again space isn't an issue...If it were, I'd just get another hdd...lol I have a monster setup (for me), with all the drum samples I have, the e-kit, guitars, amps, pedals, cabinets, mics, etc, I'm very fortunate, but I also worked really hard to get all this stuff... It'd be hard for me not to buy SD3, especially since my other Toontrack samples will work with it... The "tracker" feature comes from a program Toontrack discontinued called "Drumtracker", which looks quite nice & has been updated from the old version (and yes, I have it too)... A couple of weeks after I buy SD3 I'll post up a review & share my thoughts about it compared to my other software...Sorry for the long post, but just wanted you to know I'm not a newbie with the software, I'm a newbie drummer that up until a few months ago, programmed most of the midi by hand...Now I'm trying to play it instead...
@yellchai
@yellchai 7 жыл бұрын
Get the akai mpd218. Comes with ableton live lite. Big Bang drums and Big Bang cinematic. Other akai sample packs and you get a cool prod controller. Good way to see if vst is even your thing.
@woksrandomchannel
@woksrandomchannel 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the software on suggestion. It is a LOT more than I bargained for. I just wanted a drum machine. This is NOT for the beginner. I guess I will keep this until I learn more.
@Eomak
@Eomak 7 жыл бұрын
Is the sound sample of the new kits/ drums more detailed? then sup.2?sounding more real i mean...which i guess y the samples take so much more hard drive space like BFD3?
@KitCatStudio
@KitCatStudio 4 жыл бұрын
hey 65D! tnx 4 your videos, you are a big help, for a while now, in many E drums questions I had! I bought EZD2 and now thinking on upgrading to SD3, but don't have a lot of storage space in my mac... what are my options? can this work from an outside hard drive? is the first basic 40G download good enough? tnx again!!
@jdplumber007
@jdplumber007 7 жыл бұрын
I have a roland td9kvx and im looking into getting some sort of drum software but I really have no idea what I should go with. sd3 is just way to expensive i live in canada so sd3 is 527 dollars
@laszlozoltan5021
@laszlozoltan5021 5 жыл бұрын
buyers remorse here- sd3 = rather pricey and hugely bloated- mix volume too low (google that, Im not the only one complaining). AD2 remains my go to recomendation
@dougcatuogno4603
@dougcatuogno4603 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Justin....enjoy your videos. I have no experience with drum software at all, and other than browsing on Internet, not much tech savvy either. I am intrigued with adding and changing sounds I am limited to on my current module, and addictive drums was recommended....p.yo
@gobigrey9352
@gobigrey9352 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking strongly about it. I'm just a hobbyist and pretty much computer illiterate but hey, I dont have a drum set and I need a good drum sound.
@hellan8896
@hellan8896 7 жыл бұрын
Definately going for SD 3... I own EZD1, SD2, and Addictive 2. The kits of SD3, from the demos (specially that Yamaha Snare) sounds like nothing Ive heard in either of the softwares I own. Im looking forward for the 3rd party sample importing feature. Now all I need is a better edrum set - still banging on the very first DTXplorer (though Ive upgraded snare to 3zones, and 2 extra 2 zoned crashes). I got my eyes on the Alesis Strike (hoping to increase the sensitivity and responsiveness of my edrum experience).Thanks Justin for your awesome videos, greetings from Denmark
@JimGramze
@JimGramze 7 жыл бұрын
I have Superior Drummer 2, Groove Agent 4, and somewhat prefer to work with Logic's Drummer. I have heard a demo of the sounds of Superior Drummer 3 and was not at all impressed. What I'm going to do instead of upgrading to SD3 next month is to instead get Drum Forge Sampler. Another new product. The reason is that I've also heard DFS's drums unprocessed and they sound realer than real. If need be I can create the drum tracks in something else and then apply that to Drum Forge Sampler's genuinely realistic sound. I want the best sound, I don't care if I have a more difficult time taking advantage of them. Drum Forge Sampler doesn't as yet support things that contribute to creating a drum track like loops, but such things are slated for future development and they say that you buy it once and upgrade free forever.
@protoolsfanatic7276
@protoolsfanatic7276 6 жыл бұрын
QUESTION...so i spend 400$ on superior drummer 3 do get the hard drive too or just the download and the ssd drive at another cost im confused.
@marc8vino
@marc8vino 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You for all the videos. They are GREAT! What am I missing? I can't seem to get low latency. I want to play my TD-30 with SD3 to trigger the sounds and play live. Also recording with the USB into a Mac Pro. It's a 2009 that I upgraded the processors 3.33 8 core, 128G memory, PCIe SSD Mercury Accel E2 start up disk, Audio Drive SSD etc I have the USB plugged direct to Mac but it doesn't work well, even without Protools or garage band recording. It seems like I've tried all the suggestions but I just want to use the SD3 sounds to play and record with but MIDI seems to be lagging. Any ideas?
@daveshredder6783
@daveshredder6783 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder that since I own both SD2 and EZD2 if I can get a deeper discount? lol Seriously though, SD3 appears to be badass and I can't wait to get my hands on it. I also have Addictive Drums 2, but with all honesty, it doesn;t hold a candle to even EZD2.
@thomasfokas
@thomasfokas 7 жыл бұрын
You fucking rool!!!!!!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@TripleS65
@TripleS65 7 жыл бұрын
I own SD 2.0 and EZ drummer 2. I don't think i'm going to upgrade to 3.0 cause i don't use it very much.
@aydenperkins2005
@aydenperkins2005 2 жыл бұрын
"Should You Buy Superior Drummer 3?" No, you should pirate it. Spend money on expensive hardware and pirate what you can. 💀
@65Drums
@65Drums 2 жыл бұрын
Well i can't stop you from straight up stealing the hard work done by musicians to create SD3. But I don't recommend it.
@ihate_literallyeverything
@ihate_literallyeverything 6 ай бұрын
based
@Ponyboylicks
@Ponyboylicks 7 жыл бұрын
I'm still learning SD2, and now this? It looks fantastic, and $200 upgrade isn't bad. I'll have to watch some more videos on it before making the change. My go to kit is the Progressive Foundry, so at this point upgrading isn't going to change my overall sound kit I use. ..but I'm intrigued. Probably better to wait. The one thing I do like is the graphic changing. At least now I can see what type of drum I selected (DW, Tama, etc.) . Cheers!
@benjibanks7894
@benjibanks7894 5 жыл бұрын
I have a TD 17kvx anyone kno if and where I can just get sabian aax cymbal samples?
@kimhansen6384
@kimhansen6384 6 жыл бұрын
If I understand this correctly I get 5 more drumkits by upgrading from SD2 to SD3, that seems like a steal.
@carlpervera1276
@carlpervera1276 7 жыл бұрын
i have ez drummer 2 but my laptop is crap so i barely play it.. i did your tutorial in reducing latency it worked but i think i have to replace my old laptop because latency is still noticeable..
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