Should You Buy the Hyperkin Supa Retron HD 16-Bit Super NES & Super Famicom Clone Video Game System

[@Capitan_Chaos]

I just bought one. I’m liking it so far and tbh I’m not gonna pay $200 for a Super Nintendo clone.

[@RoXolid]

I can completely understand that for sure! I kept going back and forth on if I was going to order an Analogue Super NT and decided to hold off for now.

[@RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera]

Me too my friend I mean the super nt is way too expensive for my taste.

[@SteleCat]

Show me da wae

[@RoXolid]

To what?

[@SteleCat]

Hmm...da wae to playing with super power. (Hint: this system is now less than $50 on Amazon.)

[@johnrowen4604]

I just got one and it works really well .

[@RoXolid]

Good to hear!

[@cunawarit]

Nice to see that this is better than the Retron HD. I’m on my second HD as the power socket broke on my first one. The HD isn’t great but it is an easy way for me to be able to play the PAL carts in my collection. I have worries about Hyperkin’s quality control though. I’ve one one Retron HD and one hyperkin joypad stop working. The other issue with the Supa is that Super Famicoms are incredibly cheap and you can easily get super clean RGB output out of them. Why get a clone when an original is cheaper?

[@RoXolid]

+Guillermo Power Way better than the Retron HD! Simple reason why to get a clone is HDMI, hands down.

[@michaeltepaurel2257]

My favorite Castlevania like intro called “Scooby-Doo” themed background.

[@nyctophile8368]

I have one of these. I love it.

[@siredaruler6016]

Good to know I just ordered mine last week!!

[@YourPlayer2]

Looks pretty solid! As far as your shipping delay, if you open a ticket with Amazon support they may give you a credit if they were late on a shipment for something game related. I mean, you're paying them a good chunk of change each year for the privilege of being a Prime member, after all. Love the wealth of information in your description and quick links to different games! Great video, dude :)

[@RoXolid]

+Geeks Podcast Thanks for the Amazon tip, I'll have to look into that!

[@YourPlayer2]

RoXolid Productions No problem! I know it’s a drag when you’re expecting something launch day and they LITERALLY don’t deliver!

[@RoXolid]

+Geeks Podcast It was like a week after launch before I finally got it. I was pissed

[@briangant3600]

I just bought this system. I've noticed the transitions are missing coming in and out of buildings on legend of zelda, also, my japanese copy of super mario world doesn't work properly. Can anyone else confirm this?

[@Zion767318]

The Retron 2 HD is available from Hyperkin Labs. I have one coming in the mail. Wanted to let you know and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it in the future. Cheers!

[@RoXolid]

Thanks so much!

[@Zion767318]

@@RoXolid No problem.

[@otiswhite9867]

@@Zion767318 I'm about to order the Retron 2 HD as well. Do you like it? I'm trying to see if it's worth $80.

[@Zion767318]

@@otiswhite9867 In my honest opinion the standalone Retron/Supa Retron HD systems are better than the Retron 2 HD is. The NES side has the color pallete problem still, but unlike the Retron HD, no amount of me messing with the settings on my TV, I've been unable to get the video output to be close to what it should be. So try to go for the standalone systems if you can?

[@otiswhite9867]

@@Zion767318 Thanks for the quick reply. I'm primarily wanting to play Super Nintendo games. I was worried about getting one of the cheaper clones since I have a 4k OLED television. Would the Super Retron HD be a better choice? I'm worried how it will look on our TV. I don't want a blurry picture.

[@elmono8894]

If we just talk about the snes do you prefer this console over the retro bit super retro trio plus? I've seen some videos in which the retro trio looks pretty blurry... Which one has the most accurate picture? Thanks for the video

[@RoXolid]

Picture quality-wise I prefer the super retro trio plus over this console. The one cologne I probably like the best, budget clone that is, is the Gamerz Tek Super HD 2. it has probably the best games compatibility that I found so far, as far as pal vs. Ntsc games, the audio is pretty accurate and the color palette seems to be closer to original too.

[@elmono8894]

@@RoXolid thank for the reply! Cool, yea I was looking for the super HD 2 and I only found one for 110 us dollars which is a bit too much I think (I live in Europe) the retro trio plus its about 75 us dollars which is reasonably for the 3 systems... I was actually trying to install a rgb bypass on my snes 1chp 02 and the installation went wrong... Only getting green and black on the screen (pretty sharp dough 🙈 like a sharp gameboy) so I'm searching how to fix it and at the same time looking for alternatives that do not involve soldering, if you know of some cool retro repair forum just let me know please, otherwise I will go for the retro trio 👍🏽

[@ootwii]

i.wonder if the super ghouls n ghost level 4 is black on this system??

[@FRANCISCOCARDENASC]

does it work with the game genie?

[@TwistedIdentity]

You are THE guy when it comes to checking out clone system reviews. Love your channel. Anywho, what would you say the best SNES clone is that ISN'T FPGA? I'm not going to be playing on HDMI, I'll be using AV to a CRT. Don't care if it's a single or multi system clone, no preference there.

[@RoXolid]

If you're not going to use HDMI then I recommend the original system with HD Retrovision Component Video cables. It's simply the best

[@EmperorOfTigers]

Really good video. Very informative. Thank you. This system looks really good to me. I really like the vivid colours. I'm a PAL user mainly so for me the affordable options are the Supa Retron HD and the Super Retro Trio Plus. I do have the Retron HD which I overall like so I'm just now sure what I should pick up out of the 2. I do own an original NES and SNES of which my SNES is RGB with a CRT television although a small one. The fact you get Genesis is cool too though as I own some Mega Drive games. However having to change the picture to 4:3 is annoying as for me it would mean having to set it everytime I turn a game on. I do rather like how Hyperkin gives you the option. I know FPGA based systems would be the most ideal but they are just too much money for me.

[@RoXolid]

It is a hard choice for sure. There is the RetroGen HD coming from Hyperkin as well. If your TV doesn't have a 4:3/16:9 mode it can make the video aspect ratio...offputting

[@EmperorOfTigers]

RoXolid Productions It is indeed. My TV does have the option but each time you turn the system off it loses the setting so you have to do it again after changing game. Like you I really dislike 16:9 for retro games. The thing that appeals abouts the Retron as well is the scout controllers as I did get the wireless one which feels amazing and works very well. I didn't get the issues you got.

[@RoXolid]

I understand that, it is a work around though.

[@EmperorOfTigers]

RoXolid Productions It is. I think the Supa Retron might be the system for me. The aspect ratio and more vivid colours and great controllers sell it to me I think. Plus as I said I've got a HD NES and might get Hyperkins Genesis system when it's out.

[@ste022]

I needed pal compatibility also and purchased the retro trio, the SNES audio was horribly distorted and painful to listen to, so I returned it. I'm now waiting for a supa retron to arrive. I'm more into the NES than the SNES so don't want to invest in an NT.

[@CaptSharonStark]

I just bought one today and Killer Instinct will not load. The Hyperkin screen comes on, but then it goes black. Any idea why?

[@will.2155]

I bought one of these this summer. It worked fine, for awhile at least. When I went back and put in a new cartridge I kept getting black screens. Either it was something with the system or it was because I never used the eject button... and before anyone asked I did clean the cartridges

[@ocha-time]

All the eject button does is force a plastic wedge to the bottom of the cart to force it out of the death grip. You're just describing Hyperkin hardware in general though; works okay for a while, then doesn't

[@thegirdybird]

I love my classiq 2 hd. How would you compare the two? Great video btw

[@RoXolid]

+The Girdybird Thanks! The Supa Retron HD was sharper and had better audio IMO. But the Classiq 2 DID offer the NES option which this doesn't. But for the money I'd still say check out the Retro-Bit Super Retro Trio+

[@johneygd]

It’s strange that it is easier to clone the more powerful 16bit snes then cloning the less powerful 8bit nes hardware,but i guess that the hardest part of cloning/emulating the nes hardware is to replicate/emulate the psg soundchip because it’s analogue and it requires the exact specefications of it and emulating analogue audio on a digital soundchip is very difficuilt and it requires recording and digitize those analogue sounds and you need to link them to those corresponding signals as well.

[@RetrofIex]

Would you recommend just using a Retrotink 2x pro with an original SNES for the best HDTV experience?

[@RoXolid]

Almost. RetroTink 2x if you're budget-conscious, 5x if price is no object, but use HD Retovision Cables. That's how I have mine going and it's beautiful

[@PoseMotion]

In order to get the best sharpness, you need a 720p or 4K TV. Iy has to be pixel per pixel display or divisible by integer. Viewing 720p content on a 1080p TV will have some stretching. Nice review though.

[@RoXolid]

1080p is simply the maximum resolution, for example my 1080p tv renders 720P in it's native resolution

[@PoseMotion]

Yes and no. Your 1080p tv still has 1080 vertical pixels whether you play 720p content or not. Therefor, it stretches the 720p content to the entire screen height. So its sharpness is not going to be pixel perfect. Unless your tv has an option to only use 720 of the vertical pixels with a padding of 180 pixels on the top and bottom of the content, it's being stretched.

[@VOAN]

What's up Gary! Have you pre-order the Super Nt console yet? If you haven't Analog had recently open pre-orders again for a second round of batch units planning for shipping the 1st of March so it's not too late to get one.

[@RoXolid]

+Voan Siam I have not and I honestly don't know if I'm going to order one. For the amount of money that it costs and with all of the Clone systems I already have and with the fact that reviews are out and such I don't know that I would get much return on that investment.

[@Shawnredfield98]

RoXolid Productions So the hell with your subs who look to you for your reviews? If you don't get a return then it doesn't matter? It's only the most important SNES clone out there but please continue with the garbage clones that you over hype and don't properly test and review.

[@RoXolid]

+Shawn Redfield Not at all. It's more of an acknowledgement that there are already, only a few days after release, a ton of reviews out there by people that I know and respect who have reviewed the Super Analogue NT for people to check out. My review would be late to the game at this point. I am curious why you think I don't properly test and review systems? What would you like to see me change? I'm always looking to improve what I'm doing and am open to suggestions.

[@Shawnredfield98]

RoXolid Productions That's fair. I can respect that. I miss understood what you were trying to say. Sorry for my comment. I should of been more respectful like your response. I bring it up because some people really like a reviewer and they stand by their opinions on a product. As for the review process and it's a lot of channels I feel the lag should be properly tested. A lot of these clones that are getting good reviews have really bad input lag when tested properly. Retrorgb and Lon.tv have a method of testing the input lag and I feel that's extremely helpful and needed when reviewing these clone consoles. I do appreciate that you test with flash carts. A lot of places don't. Thanks for your response.

[@RoXolid]

+Shawn Redfield While some clone systems do introduce some lag and latency, I grant you that, would you believe that many people can't or won't feel that difference? Also beyond the console other things affect lag and latency. Poor quality HDMI cables, TVs that aren't on game mode, cheap TVs all introduce lag and latency. To often we get hung up on numbers that, depending just on the last time someone's equipment was calibrated (if ever), could be way off. I'm a bit confused regarding your comment on flash carts. I don't own any and I don't test with any. At most I test with the multicarts like from Retro-bit because I actually own them.

[@AllglorytoGODmosthigh]

Pls tell me does the game genie work with the supa retron???

[@NESADDICT]

Ahhhh Super Castlevania IV!

[@RoXolid]

That's right!

[@NewbeeX]

How much of the brightness and picture "blurriness" can be adjusted out on the tv itself?

[@RoXolid]

Brightness I'm sure you can almost on the tv but blurriness, I don't know much that can address that

[@NewbeeX]

I just wondered if changing tv settings like sharpness, or even messing with color may be the key to making these cheaper alternatives look better. I have watched a few reviews on these clone consoles and no one seems to check and see if maybe adjusting picture settings on the tv itself. Plug, Play, KZbin review. Not saying anything negative about you or your review. I am glad I found your review.

[@RoXolid]

I completely understand where you're coming from. There's a reason I do my unboxing and then a few days later I do the review. I figure the unboxing gives people the tech specs and everything and if they just want to see what it comes with that videos for them. On the flip side the review video generally I've played with the system for a couple of days and I've been able to get a good impression of its capabilities. Coming out of the system into my capture device however that eliminates the TV from the equation altogether so you are getting a true pure output from the system to get an idea of its capabilities. Can you play around with the settings to change things, absolutely. Do most people want to? Not really. Most people don't even want to calibrate their new flat panel TVs when they first install them

[@kedikg]

Did original SNES controllers work? i have suparetron HD i retron 2 HD and on both console they dont work!!!

[@RoXolid]

Yes they do. Contact Hyperkin, I seen to remember an initial issue with that, or the Retron 2 HD, I don't exactly recall

[@elroyjrthelongwolf]

I have a issue with it it won't play Bruce Lee dragon story or battle toad double dragon why

[@johnrowen4604]

Stunt Race FX is a really cool game have you tried that game yet ?

[@RoXolid]

I have! I actually have both the US & Japanese versions

[@juanluiseriza7130]

I cant play this in my Samsung QLED 55" with HDMI because have intermittence (screen turn black every 3 seconds..any idea why happen this????

[@RoXolid]

Have you tested it on another TV?

[@juanluiseriza7130]

@@RoXolid yes, it works... only in qled UHD 4k doesnt work..

[@RoXolid]

Ok, weird thought and I could be off base but just thinking... So does your TV have like an AI upscaling feature? My one Vizio does, and that may be causing the issue. Not sure, just thinking while typing

[@brettwarner719]

Raph is best man. This is probably one of the better deals for this type of output. Also love the eject button. I never like dragging my cartridges out of a system.

[@RoXolid]

I've always preferred the long-range attacks of Michelangelo. And I'm okay with not using an eject button. Regardless of if you have a button or you pull the cart out of the pens the same thing is happening, it just a matter of if you are flinging it out of the console or if you are pulling it out of the console.

[@michaelanderson9792]

My tip how I clean games I have been gaming for 38 years I use a red eraser cut the end so its flat edge then cut a grove in the flat end so the eraser fits over and under the pins in the cart rub the pins as much as it takes to clean the darkness off it should look like a new penny now clean the eraser bits with a Qtip it may take two or three Qtips rub on the pins and clean out all the eraser bits

[@RetrofIex]

The best way to use the Suparetron is via a high end CRT and the AV plugs. It will look almost indistinguishable from a real SNES. The HD option makes it look really pixely and not as good

[@RoXolid]

No thanks on the CRT. And to be honest, if you're going to play on a CRT then get an original SNES and use HD Retro Bit Component Video Cables and be prepared to be blown away! Component is so much better than Composite!

[@RetrofIex]

@@RoXolid thanks for the tip. Ill check it out for sure!

[@lionm8699]

Does this play everdrive cartridge

[@RoXolid]

Not sure, I think so but I don't own any. My grilling is if you're going to use an EverDrive with a clone just go with a Retropie

[@bugsfrickingbunny]

Just bought one for 50 bucks testing it out right now

[@megari4146]

Looks surprisingly good for a cheap Chinese SNES clone. It seems quite a bit of progress has been made in the Chinese SNES-on-a-Chip implementations, judging from the good compatibility. Seeing SMRPG working is awesome. The video side of things have also made progress, it seems, as this doesn't look like just a cheap composite-to-HDMI converter having been added to the video output, but something a bit more sophisticated. However, it looks like 240p content is still processed as 480i, which is a deal-breaker. This flaw is quite apparent when the player's character takes damage in Super Castlevania IV. Unfortunately, to my knowledge, it looks like no Chinese clone console to date has ever processed 240p content correctly, and it looks like the manufacturers don't really care to fix this.

[@RetrofIex]

I traded in my Hyperkin Retron HD for an original NES due to how poor of an imitation it was, but THIS product is way more accurate

[@RoXolid]

I agree, their SNES is much more accurate, however, the palette is still a bit off and muddy

[@thatssomegoodpie]

Does DOOM work good on it?

[@RoXolid]

I don't own it to test, sorry

[@thatssomegoodpie]

@@RoXolid How about other Super FX games?

[@RoXolid]

They work but have similar audio and color issues as pointed out here

[@maxdiputs2863]

Good video, maybe do some sound adjustments to make the voice more pleasant. Maybe hire a different host?

[@RoXolid]

Tried that, no one wants to work with the jerk of a cameraman or producer who has no vision.

[@ocha-time]

Spoiler: There's really nasty pixel jitter, even in Gameboy games like Tetris, wherever there's motion, a bad side-effect of a lot of these clone systems. If you're half blind or EVERYTHING shakes in your vision, you can probably get over it for the price. Everything else about it's a solid 3/5 which is what I'd expect for $60.

[@LelandHasGames]

It's odd how Hyperkin can never seem to get the colors quite right.

[@nintendo1889x]

And yet unofficial emulators like Snes9x and Higan can, and those are free >.>

[@RoXolid]

+LelandHasGames It's not just Hyperkin but I get what you're saying

[@RoXolid]

+the_randomizer Software vs hardware emulation, it does make a difference

[@LelandHasGames]

RoXolid Productions well, Analogue got it right with the Super Nt. How hard can it be? I mean, if you want something that works correctly, I guess you have to pay more money.

[@RoXolid]

+LelandHasGames Well it falls under you get what you pay for. If you want a budget system you're going to get budget system results. If you want to Pro level system you're going to get Pro level results, but you're also going to get a pro-level price tag.

[@herooftimex3ds]

all it needs is the english translated njpw game

[@HermesCanuto]

For me, the gamerz tek 16bit is better!

[@RoXolid]

That comparison video is coming!

[@HermesCanuto]

RoXolid Productions , I realy wanna see the next video

[@RoXolid]

+Hermes Canuto I'm hoping to do a lot of recording tomorrow and this is one I want to have filmed. They are edit-intensive for obvious reasons but hoping next week, if not early the week of the 19th

[@HermesCanuto]

Any news for the GamerzTek vs SuparetronHD ?

[@RoXolid]

Still on the to-do list. I haven't been able to get back to the production schedule I need since getting back from Germany, this project keeps dragging on. It's coming, trust me.

[@johnd5307]

Nice console🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

[@RoXolid]

Thanks as always John!

[@bitterkas2457]

japan games i need you!!!!

[@RoXolid]

There's a lot of cool Japanese games!

[@jodyneal4969]

Retro Bit > Hyperkin

[@SteleCat]

Retro Bit is oofy shite

[@wintercrush554]

Why can't these clone console makers replicate 30 year old technology? It's never as good as actually playing the games on a real SNES console.

[@RoXolid]

I get that, but they're also balancing accuracy vs cost. You CAN get a spot-on HDMI-clone. It's going to cost you $180+ but it is possible.

[@arthurcollector4002]

cheap clone systems are the cancer of retro gaming

[@RoXolid]

I think that perspective is the cancer of retro gaming. Look at it this way, you have someone who finds their old collection of NES games in their parents attic as they get ready to move. Their reaction? "These are cool, I forgot I had these, I wonder if they still work?". They plug in their old NES to their modern TV and it looks and sounds terrible. Frustrated there are two likely paths they go down: 1) Looking for better options and find, hey, there's an HDMI-equipped system I can hook up that will look cleaner than my old NES, it will actually play the games instead of giving me a blinking light error and look decent. OH, and it is only $25-$40? That's pretty cool! Wait, there are these other systems that will even play SNES & Genesis carts? You know I never got into the Genesis but this would give me an opportunity. A year or two later this person has 120 games in his or her collection, has attended a swap or two and even upgraded their equipment to an Analogue Super NT and handed their "cheap clone system" down to their kid to use for casual enjoyment to keep growing the retro fan base. 2) Puts the system in the box, sells it in a garage sale, Craigslist, Facebook or donates to Goodwill and never gets back into retro gaming. I'll tell you path 1 really describes a lot of how I got back into it. My ex had her NES, we hooked it up and it looked like hot garbage. I did some research and bought my first clone in 2015, a Retron 5. With that my interest grew and grew and now I have a ton of original systems (Famicom, Sharp Famicom Twin, NES, SNES, Super Famicom, N64, Spice Orange Gamecube, Wii, Wii U, even a Model 1 Genesis) and games that I never would have gotten if I never bought one of those "cheap clone systems". As long as people are having fun does it really matter what they are playing on if it suits their needs? Just a different perspective to consider.