Should you eat the "oldest" foods in the world?

Are the foods our ancestors have been eating for the longest time the healthiest for us? Is the govern trying to stop us from eating them?!
Past videos on different foods:
Salt: • The Best Salt Accordin...
Red meat: • We're all confused abo...
Dietary cholesterol: • The effect of dietary ...
Dairy: • The Deal with Dairy
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References:
Milk:
phys.org/news/2022-10-dates-e...
The appearance of butter:
www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/...
Earliest salt production:
www.antiquity.ac.uk/projgall/...
Nuts & seeds 780,000 years ago: www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas...
Pulses:
www.cambridge.org/core/journa...
Mushrooms:
www.nature.com/articles/natur...
Alcohol:
www.sciencedirect.com/science...
Cow breeding & artificial selection:
www.cambridgeblog.org/2016/02...
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0:00 A meme
1:16 Milk, butter, salt
2:56 The USDA discourages "old" foods?
5:37 Dietary Guidelines
7:00 Grains, fruit & evolution

[@anabolicamaranth7140]

There is growing mistrust in institutions and authority figures. Some of that mistrust is warranted but people take it way too far and connect too many dots.

[@TasteOfButterflies]

Seems to be a big link between the ancestral (or rather "ancestral") diet movement and "government bad" sentiment. The US government coming up with diabolical dietary guidelines to ruin everyone's health and make all the citizens obese seems to be a founding myth.

[@NutritionMadeSimple]

don't trust, verify! :)

[@reallyanotheruser7290]

Those people smh think politicians and CEOs are 500 IQ 5D chess players who control the world, when in reality they are probably stumbling through their office barely staying on top of their email inbox (if even).

[@edl653]

Yup! Folks read an article or two on the internet and a wiki page and they think they are experts on all types of things.

[@geneharrogate6911]

You got that right. The 'i diD mY oWn rESeArCh' brigades derangement and paranoia resembles actual mental illness.

[@samiaboctor343]

As usual unbiased sensible argument supported by balance of evidence among a barrage of nonsense on social media Thank you!

[@Fatman305]

Meme passers are never bothered by facts. I teach my kids to always check "profound discoveries" with the ChatGPT app I installed on every. single. device and browser in the house... They already tell me: yeah, that's fake, that's a lie, etc. I also teach them about AI hallucinations and to have GPT google to confirm its own answer, and if they really must be 1000% sure they come to me and I confirm with Claude and manual googling. In 99% of cases, if Claude and GPT say the same thing, then it's true. I caught them once both wrong, but when I forced GPT to google, it then got it right...

[@mjs28s]

shorter answer - appeal to nature is not an argument

[@GBOAC]

Not to mention for example raw milk or raw eggs are not even appeal to nature, they are appeal to foods that have become commonplace due to agricultural developments. Native americans didn't encounter cow's milk nor chicken eggs because they didn't have cattle nor chickens... Some cultures had turkeys but those were raised for meat not eggs.

[@Physionic]

Excellent, as always, Gil.

[@SSimon]

can you please fix your microphone noise problem, Just put a low pass filter at 15000khz and I can watch your videos again.

[@VeiledFlameAlchemist]

I didn't notice anything wrong with his video's audio? ​@@SSimon

[@Sonnell]

@@SSimon wow, you are bothered by sound over 15 000 Khz? Amazing!

[@user-dq5gc2uk5p]

@@SSimon what's wrong with his video?:) I watch them and i can hear everything perfectly fine

[@Fatman305]

​@@SSimonThere are better solutions today, to truly enhance audio with AI... The vast majority of people prefer the artificially enhanced version... U2 had a song about it...even better than the real thing

[@ColdRunnerGWN]

I always laugh when I hear the paleo crowd talk about eating meat. In the US most beef is from the Angus cow, which wasn't bred until the 12h century. The modern pig we eat is even more recent at around 200 years old. It's like they think that paleo ended when Columbus was born.

[@niamhleeson3522]

Not to mention that chickens have been bred to be as heavy as a turkey.

[@brucejensen3081]

What about guinea pigs, I hear they are quite sustainable. Are they paleo

[@dennisward43]

There weren't any European settlers in the 12th century in the US. Many US citizens today are from European stock so evolved at a rate commensurate with ruminant animals. Not so with todays highly and rapidly hybridised plants, which our digestive systems are not adapted for.

[@ColdRunnerGWN]

@@dennisward43 - Of course there weren't any European settlers in the 1100's, considering how colonization didn't actually begin until 1493. That wasn't my point. It was the fact that people think that they're eating a way humans ate prior to recorded history when that's total BS. Further, evolution has zip to do with anything here. We didn't evolve to eat domesticated animals or plants at any time. That's not how any of this works. We have the ability to eat a wide variety of foods and we just happened to domesticate animals we could eat. Not the other way around. You can go to the South Pole and eat a penguin. There is no way you 'evolved' to eat those. In fact, as a species we would have been totally screwed if we had to evolve to eat a certain food.

[@johntousseau9380]

That meme strikes me as carnivore brain rot. Sorry, carnivore bros, ancestral humans did not eat steak and eggs all day every day.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Eating meat daily is also the outcome of agricultural revolution. 62% of mammal biomass is livestock, while only 4% are wild mammals. So to keep up these levels of meat consumption, that these people think is still too low.. we need over 15x more animals than there are wild animals in total.

[@RHIMYM]

Plus they didn't that much meat also. I think in France in 1900 they ate 20kg a year. Now France is at 100kg

[@Lost_In_LA]

Another factor is availability. Most of human history, we were poor and many of these food items were scarce or expensive enough most couldn’t conceive of eating it every week let alone every day. We need to add the mental constraints where we once had physical limitations.

[@adelabdelaziz-zh4zh]

number one comment is coming from Egypt to say think you for changing the mindset of me and others to validate the things they hear and to love SCIENCE

[@applerunner1184]

You summed it up nicely - thanks for bring some sanity to this subject!

[@tejaswinis6497]

The best channel for authentic nutrition information. Can you bust myths on ayurveda

[@lisamilla5466]

Ty Dr Gil! I would love to see you do a deep dive into all the Menopause diets out there.

[@sonja4164]

That's a good one!

[@tomgoff7887]

Apparently we began consuming alcohol ten million years ago. See: Hominids adapted to metabolize ethanol long before human-directed fermentation

[@geneharrogate6911]

I'm for one happy to carry on that proud tradition..

[@terryjackson9395]

Back in the day, cavemen discovered they could offer fermented fruit to the cave-babes and they'd lose the loincloth a lot faster.

[@TasteOfButterflies]

Ripe fruit ferments naturally, so to consume it we'd need to be able to metabolize small amounts of ethanol.

[@ThomasAT86]

Great video! This type of argumentation, which kinda goes into this whole romaticization of "nature" "natural" "everything was better in the old days" and so forth, is sometimes really hard to argue with. One thing that I want to point out though is raw milk. According to my research, raw milk has very little to no proven benefits over pasteurized milk, but comes with a couple major downsides: potential foodborne illness, much shorter shelf life, much less available, probably even much more risk and expenditure for the producer (well, the owner of the producers I guess).

[@brucejensen3081]

Depends if you think enzymes are important or not. Maybe something else we are unaware of. I grew up on raw milk, don't really like it, but I wouldn't mind be able to get raw kefir, which would have to be fine.

[@RHIMYM]

People often didn't drink raw milk. The great majority of the milk was fermented into yoghurt and cheese.

[@joannarichards6245]

Thank you for being the voice of reason in a world of dietary nonsense. X

[@susana.esteves]

You make great great content. Could you make a video about kombucha?

[@pavolhorvath7850]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4OlfJaAidycb5I&ab_channel=NutritionFacts.org bottom line: there is NO evidence of benefits, only anecdotal evidence of harm.

[@Pi2.718]

😂

[@sonja4164]

​@@Pi2.718what's funny?

[@BartBVanBockstaele]

Great presentation. I think people should start to realise that there aren't really any 'good' foods, only foods that are less bad than others while all are bad when consumed to excess.

[@daysoftheboo]

Yeah the same people who tell you not to eat fruit because it's been genetically modified to be bigger and sweeter are the same people who dismissed that animals have been genetically modified too

[@DM-ql6ps]

Yup! Their meat is fattier and more marbled. Domestic chickens and ducks also lay way more eggs. Wild birds, including the ancestors of domestic chickens and ducks, lay very few eggs and only at specific times.

[@ilyas8597]

Both aren't genecly modified but hyberd

[@JappaKneads]

​@@ilyas8597 The grapefruit is a hybrid. So?

[@ilyas8597]

@@JappaKneads Hybridization is a natural phenomenon that happen even without human intervention,it can be problem only when it cause other species extinction

[@THFrenchteacher]

Love your channel. I love how you calmly introduce facts into emotional topics. Thank you!🙏

[@sandyglover736]

Great video Gil! 👍👍

[@brucejensen3081]

I thought you were going to say ancient stuff in the fridge with mould growing on it, you cant just scrape the mould off and eat it. Looks like i need to keep foraging in the wilderness, or as i call it, my back yard

[@charleshartlen3914]

thanks for another great video! really appreciate your content and efforts!

[@Santa-ny1yp]

I would think alcohol fits into non pasteurized ferments. I can think of no alcohol that isn't fermented in some fashion.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Antagonistic pleiotropy within nutrition - the idea foods we've evolved with and adapted to are in fact the foods with the most potential for negative impact on human health and provide a short term trade off for reproductive success while negatively affecting long term health. Therefore the newer foods we are not "evolved" to eat or evolved with including liquid oils, beyond meat, etc., are in fact more health promoting for longevity.

[@akshyasharr]

i never comment on videos but i have watched a lot of ur videos on health and it is one of the most amazing videos i have come across , thank u brother

[@dczech4138]

Many diet approaches have a solid foundation, but influencers take it to extremes to make it look "new and different" for marketing purposes.

[@LiveLeanHealth]

As usual, great points Gil thank you

[@divadyrdnal]

So, humans have and will eat what ever is “available” where they lived to survive… kinda like the first person who tried an oyster.

[@sonja4164]

😂😂😂 they HAD to be desperate!

[@StarOnTheWater]

People forget that we have always been adapting to stressors in the environment. There was never a heavenly time when everything was ideal and we were a finished product of evolution. We ate what was available and we have adapted to digest it. We have survived. And that's it.

[@user-iy7lk7ig4h]

Cannibalism is an ancient practice...

[@MarkoMood]

I'm pretty sure human meat is generally a healthy addition to a diet, so not the best example

[@marynoonan6111]

😂

[@ColdRunnerGWN]

@@MarkoMood - Have you met many humans?

[@mitkoogrozev]

@@MarkoMood Maybe if it's a wild human. Industrialized humans are fatty, and have bio-accumulated toxins and plastics in their meat. Although plastics are so spread out these days, that even the most pristine places where no human visits, contains them. So maybe even a wild human would have them, although to a lower degree. Ancient human meat - probably the best.

[@tamcon72]

@@MarkoMood Sure, but don't eat the offal espcially the brains, unless you want CJ Disease. It's funny that there are no natural edible plant foods about which I can say that.

[@andreicojea]

I absolutely love this channel ❤

[@kestag2110]

Well said, thwnks😊

[@lorimckay2704]

Love this easy logic cant wait to share your words!

[@dvdmon]

The problem is that the guidelines are attached to "the government." A segment of people have an innate distrust of the government, and even though I'm not one of them, I certainly understand where they are coming from. A lot of decisions seem arbitrary, politically motivated, and with a high likelihood of being due to lobbying/corruption. It's good to be skeptical of any information, but it's also important not to discount information simply because of it's source. While the USDA is not the greatest source for bias-free guidelines (since their JOB is to promote certain segments of US agriculture), we can look at so many other health agencies across the planet and they have extremely similar recommendations, even more "extreme" (in terms of limiting beef, eggs, and dairy) than the USDA. Using the guidelines to tell you exactly what to eat (whether that's by eating the opposite of what they suggest or the exact things they suggest), is kind of silly. Base your decisions on ALL the evidence out there, outside of obviously biased sources like diet doctors, KZbin influencers that sell the same products they recommend, etc.

[@matthewgraham2546]

Both sides of my family are from Kentucky my grandmothers lived in their nineties and grandfathers in their eighties born in the mountains, most of my family has long lives. They cooked with lard, fried foods, eggs every morning raised hogs and chickens and the list goes on. The only thing I can see is they were small to average size I am the largest of my siblings at 5'8" 155 pounds same size as my grandfather. My 3x grandfather born in 1803 lived to 84 years, we are not big eaters I think helps. My grandmother told me if they saw someone fat they thought they were rich.

[@CursedKitten1]

Commenting for the algorithm. Watch your vids all the time you do an awesome job

[@asexualatheist3504]

People often forget that our ancestors were lucky to live to 40. They lived long enough to pass on their genes.

[@YamilGonzales]

Yes! exactly. If your life expectancy is 30-40, then go ahead and indulge yourself.

[@scienceislove2014]

Exactly

[@RHIMYM]

That is because of dead at birth. Our ancestors who survived until 5 were able to live to 70

[@user-eo9vs4js6w]

Was gonna say the same

[@teckyify]

As far as I know this isn't also correct. The average ahe was low, because almost all babies died but if you survived, then you could get old. We need to find data on this.

[@anthonyvachon2337]

Great video, as always. Would have be interesting to also explore the idea of antagonistic pleiotropy leading us to believe that eating "old" foods would be in fact more likely to be detrimental to health than modern foods (especially health at an older age). In simple words: Being adapted to a food mostly means that genes have been selected to improve our odds of reproducing more in the context of eating said food, even at the cost of this same food damaging our long term health (past reproductive age). A complex topic that I would like to be challenged and discussed by a competent science communicator (such as yourself ;)

[@pynn1000]

Thank you for this great summary of one of the current memes. I'm not surprised that the relatively new but flourishing science of the gut microbiome has produced so many of them.

[@jgreen9361]

Modern marbled, large muscled, easy to chew slabs of steak are not OLD food. They are very modern.

[@renatapeters3681]

Fantastic

[@holasoyjose9683]

Thanks

Antagonistic Pleiotropy goddamn it!

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Bingo!

[@justasheep4427]

One thing caught my attention: Are non-pasteurized ferments not recommended in the US? I thought things like non-pasteurized kimchi and sauerkraut were natural probiotics and had pretty good effects on your gut microbiota...

[@marynoonan6111]

My son when he was 15 and a Mr Knowitall once had a crack at my cook from scratch cooking. Why didnt I cook the good old foods like Cavemen ate. I told him that the next time I saw a mammoth I’d tackle it to the ground for him, but he had to understand that using that metric, he possibly only had 10 years left to live like his Caveman ancestors. 😂

[@mikew6840]

I would say the real kicker is the longevity associated with these idealized diets… as others may have pointed out that to reach 40 years old was unusual 😮 a few centuries back!! Not just because of diet of course, but still.

[@catobie1948]

Basically eat real food, not overly processed.

[@brucejensen3081]

I do believe how it's grown holds some importance

[@donnierusmisel2221]

But what if I want to achieve a 30 year lifespan like our ancestors? 😂

[@HeathenDance]

The 27 club is even more bad ass.

[@gabimarie8]

You are right but that number is based on high infant mortality and trauma

[@seitanbeatsyourmeat666]

⁠@@gabimarie8the people that believe this meme, also don’t believe in vaccines… and antibiotics are also modern 😂😂. That only leaves trauma; not the number 1 modern and ancient killer (viruses)

[@ZsuzsaKarolySmith]

@@gabimarie8which is why diet didn’t really matter to them - they never really got old enough to develop heart disease!

[@gabimarie8]

@@ZsuzsaKarolySmith that’s true. It would be great to find out what was the most common causes of death for them salvo trauma and infant mortality. Did heart disease was a real thing for those that arrived to advanced age?

[@lucianowillemse8244]

This why we should stay away from social media and any content of social media "health" influencers.

[@tamcon72]

In this video, a learned adult explains anthropological nutrition to you meme kids. Thanks for posting!

[@massload2]

I have to comment for the first time on your channel. Your content is great for a debator like myself to consume. There are MANY channels that are running on a seemingly common theme that definitely makes assumptions that are not science backed. However, the community size paired with true experts in the field sharing their anecdotal evidence is compelling on certain topics. Your interpretation/stance on modern trends is not one that I can truly say I stand 100% with. But I can say the same for the more mainstream youtube channels. I appreciate the effort and time you put into each video. And I believe you are doing an essential work for those such as myself that could get too gung-ho on a new fad. Short and sweet: I don't agree with everything you say. But man I appreciate that you say it. Keep it up. It helps me think and find my own way forward in this ever changing world of nutrition and research.

[@gymjoedude]

Foods were so healthy people only lived to 14-18 years old.

[@baddoboss9075]

Its funny seeing a doctor use the word meme so casually, wouldnt have expected that years ago but here we are

[@federicoberghmans991]

If only people thought things through just a little...

[@mike2959]

Gil, great points yet this logic works in the other direction though as well. Most people if you ask them what has more vitamin C oranges or broccoli they would respond with oranges. Most people would say spinach is “healthy”. Maybe because of Popeye. Anyways. We know that spinach nutrient profile isn’t that great, and we all know that it has a high level of oxalates. It’s a bit of common sense that just because it’s “raw” or comes from “nature” or we ate it for a million years doesn’t mean it’s “good” for you.

[@paulelkins425]

How dare you use logic and facts in your dietary interpretations!

[@HeathenDance]

Logic and facts, if followed, would pretty much exclude the vast majority of human behaviour since the dawn of Times. History books would display a lot more peaceful reality, for example.

[@dj.h7424]

😂😂😂 indeed, how very rude! another good source who dares to do that for me anyway, is Simon Hill. People are getting so tired of the fallacies.

[@finsk254]

I'm sitting here patiently waiting for the TMAO video. I bought two bottles of l-carnitine supplement and then I realized that l-carnitine makes TMAO. ☹

[@peterminton8105]

Hi , For older people particularly men age 60 and over trying to building muscle can be difficult . Is using a muscle protein supplement a useful addition to consume on a daily basis . Is it really worth doing this for the gain in muscle mass . The other main cause for concern is the effect of protein powder effects on the kidneys and there function . Can protein powder supplement cause kidney stones or at least increase the risk of this happening . I've just started using a protein powder supplement and just have concerns about kidney stones and function of the kidneys . Would be great if you could do a video . Many people don't know about the long term effects of protein powder supplement and what can go wrong . Many young people in gyms use protein powder so maybe they could be having problems later on in life due to this kidney failure .👍

[@brucejensen3081]

It's going to come down to overall protein consumption. If you are eating less food as you get older, and less active, you still need the same amount of protein. Eggs are probably better, whey should be fine

[@dj.h7424]

At sixty I just finally learned how to prepare organic tofu without it tasting like bland egg white. It’s a good protein source. in uk it’s 99p in Aldi so economical as well.

[@sergiomontes2568]

This video address your question (it seems like for young people, consuming more protein helps to build muscle, but just a litte bit so it might not be worthy; for over 50s, there is not a single research that shows excess protein (more than the reccomended amount) aids building muscle): kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZ-snKyko5iemKc However, there seems to be a consensus about creatine supplemantion helping: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHmqhYx-e5hkd7s I work out and for while was drinking protein milkshakes every single day. But I stopped after having a hard a look at all available evidence. Drawbacks seem to be higher than potential benefits.

[@safapresley]

Can't really expect consistency from carnivore bros

[@julioandresgomez3201]

I think what matters most is the variety of foods an individual gets in the first 5 years or so of life. If it's a wide variety he(she) will grow to handle well lots and lots of foods. If he was raised on a couple food items he may not tolerate or barely tolerate many things later in life.

[@dj.h7424]

Not sure about that. Just my anecdote, but I was so fussy from 1yr to 6yr, only would eat mashed potato mixed with overcooked beef. I had asthma and allergies as a kid. I can eat anything now and have no asthma and no allergies but I had to introduce foods very slowly and gradually, most recently beans and lentils just a teaspoon on day 1 then increase a little each day. So I think it’s about getting used to things gradually, and allow the microbiota to develop accordingly. I know this may not work for severe allergies especially nuts unless very carefully monitored, but for most things I believe the slow approach works.

[@broccoli7263]

Our ancestors ate whatever they could. They did not perform RCTs. Unless you consider eating random mushrooms and seeing if you die a kind of RCT.

[@woofinu]

"Old" and "natural" foods!

[@_CoachW]

Like the old saying goes. "In God we Trust... everyone else show your data." 😉

[@rodcamp4472]

Hilarious picture of the cave woman who clearly just got back from the salon/spa. Lol

[@alexdiaz3311]

8:42 Yes exactly, no more explaining my cannibalism diet 😈

[@jenniferesein4813]

Most if not all the foods you can get at the grocery store is "new". Do people really think foods like meat or milk is some how "ancient"? They didn't have cows in the forests of paleolithic Siberia. Ancient ancestors, like "hunter AND gathers" communities hunted wild game, which had much different saturated to unsaturated fat ratios than the "modern agricultural" live stock you would find in the store. In addition to that, we pump our modern livestock with hormones that wild game doesn't get at all. Same with milk. And how come these people never talk about insect consumption that our ancestors most likely ate as well? Some cultures still occassionally do, but for the most part we don't. No one talks about that.

[@mzimbres]

Also, ancestors seem to have focused more on organs and bone marrow than on mean itself.

[@lenguyenngoc479]

bs, they ate anything they could find. We aren't bears eating caloric densed food as much as possible and go into hibernation

[@eduardorocha2345]

👍

[@DrTomMD]

Dammit! Can’t trust memes from self appointed nutrition gurus? Who knew?! Seriously, another great job from Dr Gil 👍🏽 Notably, re US Dietary Guidelines - nitpicky as anyone can get - they are FAR more sound than mass majority of nutrition recs on SM.

[@billleach7915]

I don't what the research says, I am not giving up my Cali Squeeze Blood Orange beer with a meal once a week or so.

[@valentinburtan5262]

👏👏👏

[@LoneWolf-pw5wv]

How did alcohol get in as a "food?"

[@earthwyrm6756]

Was unpasteurized ferment until recently.

[@brucejensen3081]

Has calories

[@floydffrogfloydffrog7453]

Talk about ruining the joke by explaining it ;) He has a point though, because too many 'memes' stray from humor to pithy, with the intention of targeting our emotions to sell a message. This is, of course, how propaganda works. Lots of these memes don't even make sense if you think about them. The meme in the video being a perfect example and thank you Dr Carvalho for describing the reality of so-called old foods. Once you understand the context more fully the original meme comes across as annoyingly misleading, in the least. So laugh if you find a meme funny. But if it pushes any other button then you -- and us -- are probably better served to spend a minute thinking about what the meme actually claims to be true before you forward it to everyone in your friends list.

[@niamhleeson3522]

3:39 💜💓mung beans💓💜, my beloved😍

[@amandokoenders1]

Is there any evidence supporting the consumption of mushrooms?

[@GBOAC]

For example the Neanderthal remains found in the El Sidron cave in Spain revealed a diet of mushrooms, pine nuts, and moss, so forest foraging.

[@davidfulton179]

In developed Western countries, the predominant health issue is overconsumption, particularly of unhealthy foods, rather than nutritional deficiencies. While nutritional concerns are still relevant, especially among vulnerable populations, the emphasis on specific nutrient gaps is often disproportionate compared to the widespread impact of overeating and poor dietary choices. The focus should shift toward addressing overconsumption and its related health risks, such as obesity and chronic diseases, through balanced meals, portion control, and reducing unhealthy food intake. This holistic approach would more effectively improve public health outcomes, aligning better with the needs of these societies.

[@brucejensen3081]

It's difficult. Like people are eating the correct amount for correct activity levels. The type is probably not giving them the energy to do the activity. It's like will two wrongs make a right, from reducing energy intake to match reduced activity. Like is it possible

[@policeman1104]

Bro destroyed the memes either facts

[@juan_martinez524]

how dare you contradict keto youtube

[@christopherdockstader16]

One sentence summary, just because it is old doesnt mean it is healthy or optimal. Am I correct?

[@Wahunganganshapunck]

Corn has been around for over 5000 years.... So it's not new.

[@brucejensen3081]

Yeah I hear the f1 hybrid we eat has been around for a billion years

[@veganpundit1]

💯👍🎯🥦💪🏻

[@thomas6502]

Food for thought ...someday, like tweeters, memes too will go X-tinct.

[@limitisillusion7]

You can pry my whole milk out of my cold, dead hands.

[@seitanbeatsyourmeat666]

We won’t have to, it’ll spill on its own as you collapse

[@TasteOfButterflies]

8:43 "we don't owe anybody an explanation about what we choose to eat" But people who believe themselves to be rational and evidence-based need a reason to believe that when nutrition science disagrees with their dietary movement, it's nutrition science who is wrong.

[@edl653]

The battle for health includes the battle against ignorant information. 😉 I do like my shot or two of tequila once in a while.

[@peteroffpist1621]

Oldest food is plants.

[@liberalduh9807]

I’m sure the creators of the MAIN are thinking these older foods are what we evolved to eat, but evolution takes a lot longer than a few thousand years. Also, I kind of doubt that we had centenarians way back then, it was more survival until you leave offspring in an evolutionary sense. Today we want to retire and live longer to enjoy our retirement. I have no confidence in health food guru recommending this or that for longevity. But I do listen to the science nutrition made simple lays out for us.

[@GlorifiedTruth]

What is the manner in which we would have eaten pulses 70,000 years ago? It's hard to imagine us cooking them into a palatable form back then.

[@tangerinetangerine4400]

Sprouting maybe? Or grinding into a flour?

[@xiamengbaby]

Evidence was found that they were indeed prepping and cooking them.

[@brucejensen3081]

As soon as I could walk I can remember picking up lupins and taking like 30 minutes to eat them, like they are as hard as. I would eat anything I could find starting to wonder if my parents fed me. Think this is pretty normal behaviour for humans though

[@xiamengbaby]

@@brucejensen3081 picking them up from where?

[@brucejensen3081]

@@xiamengbaby when we had grain delivered, some were spilt on the ground. For some reason I ate them. Poor man's gobstopper I guess. Lol

[@petar.dj98]

How did paleolithic people eat legumes if they have to be cooked

[@jenniferesein4813]

By cooking them.

[@TasteOfButterflies]

The oldest evidence of using fire is from 300-400 thousands of years ago. The paleolithic era ended 12,000 years ago. Surely the hundreds of thousands of years of overlap were enough time to learn to cook some beans.

[@safapresley]

@@jenniferesein4813 how did they cook without microwave ovens

[@CharlieFader]

@@safapresley you just boil them. The earliest evidence of humans cooking food by boiling water dates back to the Lower Paleolithic era, around 2 million years ago.

[@BrianK-zz4fk]

@@CharlieFaderhow did they make pots to boil them?

[@manojrs008]

This narrative is also used with ancient medicine systems. Older folk, religious or tradional medicines are considered perfect without any test or R&D just because they have been followed for centuries. There is a strong emotional connect tagged along these narratives. Exploited strongly by its practioners. For example, In India, the govt has setup a ministry to promote traditional medicine. It would seem usefull, if traditional medicine are validated by scientific PCT, etc through the ministry. But it has turned into a harbor for pushing pseudoscinece without scientific validation backed by strong govt backing.

[@DM-ql6ps]

Of course, these people fail to realize that modern livestock are quite a bit different from their wild counterparts; including in the composition of the meat. Also, prior to domestication of poultry, humans would have only eaten eggs for a brief window in the spring, when wild birds lay eggs.

[@brucejensen3081]

Yeah a lot of eating foods out of season. Not only plants and eggs, but meat, as most is migratory

[@advertiserfriendlyusername5362]

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[@stupud818]

What about ken berry and his "proper human diet" grift😅

[@evanhadkins5532]

The argument from evolution is weird. Learning and adaptation are evolutionary advantages - recent can be an advantageous adaptation.

[@brucejensen3081]

Yes. Many of those things back then, whether plant or animal would probably be to toxic now. Like when a dog digs up a rotten animal and eats it, once upon a time we probably could have too, don't think I would try now

[@tullochgorum6323]

The idea of some kind of standard paleolithic diet makes no sense at all - people ate anything they could to survive. This varied greatly by location. And it's also false to assume that these diets were always healthy - for example mummified pre-industrial Inuit bodies were found to have significant heart disease in their 20s. Much better to focus on the lessons of the Blue Zones - large populations eating modern foods and enjoying above average physical and mental health.

[@Dana-wq5tp]

This video needs to be a mandatory view for all the Carnivore whack-a-doos out there uploading information to rationalize and accommodate their biased views on nutrition. Well done, sir.

[@bobbyadkins6983]

No. You should eat the freshest foods. 🥴😉

[@rexwine]

You don't need domesticated animals for milk. Just women. And who knows if there was a prohibition against drinking it beyond infancy. Jus sayin'

[@pomberry3591]

Bahaha you think it would have been more efficient for prehistoric humans to keep women in a caloric surplus so they could produce milk for grown adults rather than just... Giving said calories to the grown adults? Come on now.

[@sergiomontes2568]

you don'tneed to domesticate women for milk.

[@intiorozco5063]

That meme would be more accurate if it featured roots, insects, larvae, wild seeds and tree leaves but it wouldn't work as well would it? God I hate that kind of stupid memes.

[@roropepe1848]

the fact that you have to waste your time on this is just sad