Should You Get a Floatwheel??

[@smokeyBJJ]

I’ve rode a pint, owned an xr, own a GT and now own an ADV Pro. I no longer ride my GT and absolutely love my ADV! ❤

[@Zetler]

The Floatwheel is a journey to acquire. But at the end of this journey is the most satisfying board in the industry. It cost peanuts, the power is insane and the value is off the charts.

[@trey1531]

love my FW

[@nyccollin]

And it’s made in China and you have to program it and assemble it yourself. Who knows how long it will last. Time will tell.

[@thetoasterisonfire2080]

@@nyccollin I mean, the onewheel is made in China too. The final assembly is just done in the us. Also I consider the self assembly a win for longevity as you can easily replace parts without setting off some fm self destruct system.

[@Cloudaddy220]

Its really made in China? Damn, I was a heart beat away buying one but I'll stick to my leg powered longboard I guess

[@nyccollin]

@@Cloudaddy220 And you have to buy the floatwheel with bitcoin. Buy the Onewheel. Designed in USA. 🇺🇸

[@TheBoardGarage]

Very nicely done, well articulated points, and a realistic perspective on the product experience. A small but important correction/clarification on the BMS: It being a dumb (hardware based) BMS isn’t the issue, it’s that it was just designed poorly. The pitfalls of its function are not the nature of non-smart BMS units, they’re the result of design choices that were ill-informed and misguided, leading to things that may become dangerous over the life of the device.

[@gergosnoo]

Hard to find any arguable points in what you are saying. This is a precise overlook of all honourable topics! Great video and well thought-out summary! Thanks for informing people in a such compact way!

[@stephenhruby8763]

Thank you. This is very concise and as a 6’4 rider with a very similar background (starting with OG pint and currently love my XR but it dies on my 8 mile commute to work) this is pragmatic feedback. It’s hard cutting through the fluff and getting into nuts and bolts with a trademarked industry based on “stoke.” Love the sound of the new top speed and slight redesign of the GT into the GT-S, obviously the price point is a contention… but with the new mandatory haptic buzz and right to repair, these are larger negatives in my mind. Love to see the continual growth of the VESC community and hopefully the BMS gets more refined. I’ll continue lurking until the holiday season for now, thanks again.

[@finn8808]

great video. ive been a long time rider and didn't realize it was that tough to get into a floatwheel, paying with crypto is an instant no for me. i would love one of these boards but im put off by the initial setup and having to be fairly knowledgeable about the systems of the board. one thing i love about the FM boards are that they are plug and play. I wish FM would have more consumer friendly practices but im glad the boards are getting regulated, it'll keep the sport safer and help prevent a full on ban of onewheels.

[@breezeey9113]

Tony should be here to answer more question. I saw him on many big accounts but he should pay attention to riders and this video too. Thank you for context. I like the range explaination the most. My GT does not get 32 miles range as well. estimating 20-25 miles right now.

[@CrazyWhorres]

Actually he should be busy running his business, and challenging the one wheel patents

[@namelessvermillion8188]

Now you just gotta make it look as cool as your XR. Love the color scheme the fins and the white rim. I know this vid is not about that board but its very pleasing to look at 😂.

[@jdemay52]

This is a really well made video that has a very real opinion about the floatwheel. Thank you for this review!

[@sharsanyi]

You provide very detailed and engaging videos! I hope your channel grows quickly as it deserves!

[@SumanVisu]

Great video and perfect timing too. I just mentioned floatwheel to my friend. This help to decide which one to buy.

[@andrewrichardson3698]

Very knowledgeable and great info. Keep making videos sir.

[@teaguemendola789]

lol i like the "not euc territory", yeah eucs can almost go up 50 degree walls

[@Corn8Bit]

Pretty sure the Lynx actually can do that

[@ElectricVehicleSpace]

Good video. Well DONE!

[@cowchunks5120]

Hoping to invest in a float wheel in the coming months. the only problem i'm concerned with is the water proofing, seems like an easy fix. when I eventually receive mine, ill just ask the community what they did to solve it and how I can do the same. Great video btw, was very informative!

[@crashyride]

If you do, make sure to check out PEV.dev and share any discoveries you make pev.dev/t/floatwheel-waterproofing-tips-and-experiences/1190

[@filipkracmar8293]

​@@crashyridehey, could you describe what you did with the silicone lube exactly? And how that help? I ride the same terrain :-)

[@crashyride]

I propped my board on its side and ran the motor at slow speed using the controls in the VESC app (remember to disable float pkg). While it's running I spray silicone bearing lube around the axle and let it run for 5 or so minutes on each side.@@filipkracmar8293

[@filipkracmar8293]

@@crashyride which one? They say that wd40 could make some problems with the motor.

[@crashyride]

@@filipkracmar8293 I use PB Blaster silicone spray. I don't think WD40 would be smart, more of a cleaner than a lubricant.

[@Magnus_Magnesium]

Thanks man. I’m new to this and ran into the same comments everywhere. Just go buy a float wheel is not practical at all especially for someone new to the sport. Bought a used GT for now just for parts sake, aftermarket hardware does not exist for float wheel.

[@skigeek]

Thank you for your honest run down.

[@KD6TAV]

I have an XR and have had too many nose dives. I don’t weigh a lot so it’s not just weight. I am 180

[@surfdado]

Wow, you should make more videos! Nice work!!

[@monyx1101]

Love my ADVPro, for the price the performance can't be beat. A big factor for me is outside of the USA we have to send any Future Motion board back to the only service centre in the world for warranty. Even for out of warranty I can't repair GT/GT-S in my country due to removal of right to repair thanks to board bricking itself if the battery is disconnected the device is disbaled until returned to FM.

[@Ty-ye8rd]

Thats not true about the battery, only if you take the controller apart, disconnecting is fine. What type of riding do you do? Adv seems pretty cool, but I’ve yet to hear a review from serious trail riders.

[@MrJoefoefrombuffalo]

Interested after more of the bugs get worked out easier to order ETA to get. I'm in no hurry since I live in the Buffalo NY USA area can't ride much till next spring and my XR will keep smiles ony face Hopefully till then, issues are fixed to place a order for a adv pro. 🤙

[@cyrilanne]

It seem a board for handyman ! Little bit scary : pay with crypto, 2 month delay for delivery, need to build yourself the board, geeky setting, need to complain to have new plastic, need to make a fix for water ! It’s a more geek product than a one wheel , a little bit like an android vs apple things. Personally I prefer a smooth experience than this. But I totally understand people who want to hack and repair by themselves the board, seem not for me , I think I will go for a regular GT . Thanks for your video

[@eekdestroy5329]

great video buddy. Thanks for the honest advice.

[@eldoradoboy]

what do you guys think for a beginner? someone like myself thats ridden a onewheel just enough to be hooked and say, yes this is something I want to have.. a first board.. not to jump railings and do tricks ,but to city ride as a PEV whe nim exploring cities and just dont want to walk.. I do want decent range and a stable tire and a board thats generally not going to nose dive without good reason.. while i want something I can take out of the box and ride (or assemble and ride).. I do like things fixable and to be able to tinker somewhat with.. im intruioged by the ADV.. but also the GT-S is also a compelling board... again something for a NooB.. I have probably 10 miles o0n a pint and thats the extent of my onewheel experience..

[@crashyride]

Hard to beat a used XR! Depending on your build it might not be enough board for you, but just went for a group ride tonight with someone on a stock XR and they kept up just fine!

[@TattedTommysTv]

There's a new one ready to go here in Dallas for sale but probably gonna hold out for gts or build me a XR

[@mon3ylounge]

I’ll buy a float wheel once they come out with their next version

[@crashyride]

I think, realistically, this is the right answer for most people...if they can be patient.

[@mon3ylounge]

I’m desperate for a new Onewheel but I’ll hold on to my XR just a bit longer. I know it’ll be worth the wait @@crashyride

[@404blakson]

Great thanks I'm going to wait a couple more months and then purchase a float wheel

[@Jameslangford-rc6sw]

"The float wheel community is very friendly and helpful" hahah, not in my experience. Seriously though, this was the most level headed review I have heard so far. Thanks for the transparency and well worded video

[@loganlaviolette3494]

The floatwheel owners group on fb is pretty good

[@Jonners]

This seems to be pretty much my only option as I'm 280lbs near enough.

[@dylanmassa]

top tier wheel content

[@rafelOrCo]

Floatwheel! Check 🎉

[@sadanimal1950]

holding off for the smart BMS. so tempted tho

[@brahamyoung1951]

Thx learning about crypto..my 2 Xr+ ‘s are fantastic..braham It’s 7am down under & I’m going up hill to coffee cafe..

[@0RANGOTANG]

This was a pretty good video. As someone who doesn’t own any board rn besides an electric skateboard from meepo, but is looking to pick one up this just made it even more clear I’ll probably get one. I’ve already gotten the link to pay, but don’t have the cash right now

[@Corn8Bit]

FW rules but I agree with everything here. I'll also add that if you have to recalibrate the IMU it can be a real pain. Anyway back to riding my ADV. Oh what lube did you use?

[@crashyride]

PB Blaster Silicone Bearing lubricant, comes in a spray can.

[@evrettej]

8 to 10miles on your XR? That's crazy, i get 18 to 19 out of mine🤔

[@stephenhruby8763]

How much do you weigh and what shaping do you use?

[@BlownMacTruck]

8-10 miles on trails like shown in the video is about right.

[@mankdemest]

This is a very helpful video great work

[@Vastfill]

Great unbiased review! Also what happened at 4:13 ? Lol

[@c.daubz.5386]

👍👍 appreciate the very informative video

[@spencer7075]

Will the flightfins fit the adv pro 🤔

[@crashyride]

The Flightfins fender will not fit, but if you have access to a 3D printer and the right material you can make your own: www.printables.com/model/553959-floatwheel-ff-fender

[@spencer7075]

Thanks 😊 I don't have one yet but planning on getting one to help myself with my adv journey!

[@tigerjuju]

Very fair and balanced assessment between OW and FW. People at 200lb+ need to get more power from the dark side. OneWheel platform will never be quite satisfying enough to ride unless you are just a casual rider. EUC is the way for the husky folks.

[@milesonewheelwinter]

Guess u don't know about the gts

[@BlownMacTruck]

Oh. My. God. Will EUC people just stop already? We get it. Your PEV is the ultimate expression of personal transportation. It destroys everything else. The only thing stopping it from taking over the world is that no one knows about them, so you MUST post in every single other PEV video about how great they are. Here’s a hint: all you EUC weirdos constantly posting in unrelated videos makes us all want to stay the hell away from you as a community and EUCs in general.

[@Kay0Bot]

FM onewheel (pint to GT,-S) definitely works best for people weighing 130 -170lbs.

[@ShahrozSher-p1l]

How fast can you go before pushback?

[@crashyride]

When setting up the controller, you can determine where pushback begins. So...realistically as fast the board will carry you before the motor gives out. Practically speaking I see folks making it to the low 20s. I personally get sketched out going more than 18mph. A concrete number will depend on your weight, how charged the board is, tire PSI, terrain you're riding over, etc.

[@ShahrozSher-p1l]

@@crashyride would it be bad for the motor if you set the pushback to the highest limit tit can go to? I’ve seen tony cruise at 250mph in his vids easily and he’s 160, so Im wondering if an easy 30mph is possible if one is around 130 pounds…

[@crashyride]

@@ShahrozSher-p1l No, it would not be bad for the motor. If you set pushback right at the very edge of the motor's torque, or just past it (so as fast as it can reasonably carry you), it won't hurt the motor, but it might hurt you when the board noses down because the motor can't spin fast enough to keep it level. I'd believe that someone could hit 30mph on a Floatwheel, but that'd be dangerous enough as it is without the BMS issue. The potential voltage sag at such a high duty cycle could trigger the BMS to shut off the board if you've got a bad cell that dips too low. I absolutely don't condone this kind of thing, it has put many many people in the hospital, but if you're going to do it, VESC is the way. You can watch your duty cycle and know how close you're getting to the limits of the board.

[@ShahrozSher-p1l]

@@crashyride Thank you for the detailed answer! Ride on man.

[@smokeyBJJ]

My pushback comes on at 85% duty cycle which is about 54km/h for me 😂

[@timwilliams73]

Thanks for the info - and I love those blue sneakers. Mind sharing what they are?

[@crashyride]

Xero HFS II, they're zero drop shoes, flat sole.

[@timwilliams73]

@@crashyride Thanks! I’ll look into them!

[@isiglz]

5:30 your range issue is because of your weight*

[@dm1439]

He acknowledged that 3 seconds later...

[@MMWorkz]

Video might be a little harsh, any company that delivers any product product may have issues. Tony has been transparent about the v1 plastics and shipping the new plastics on his own dime. I bought my board new from another member in the community bc they were having family issues and Tony is easy to work with and transferred the warranty to me. Tony took full accountability and been transparent. Just know what you’re buying into, it’s a powerful board, high quality material (minus the tire, but that’s an easy change), it’s a board created by community members and improvements will be made over time. FM on the other hand doesn’t own up to anything, PintX wires getting cut, batteries going dead, boards dying right after warranty and charging arm and leg to fix, foot pad issues, v1 had super tiny sensors, but every product FM improved on the last one. So, I can’t wait to see what else Tony can put together in the future. It’s a great board for the tinkerers, not for those who want a polished app, settings, etc. it’s not there yet, but moving and improving fast.

[@boolikethebear]

while im very comfortable in the crypto space, i would never buy something so expensive using it. i love the security (and rewards) i get by purchasing with a bank. the build quality is also incredibly poor. it's fantastic that they're fixing it for free (big ups!), but it makes me very curious to see if these boards will even work in a year, or two. i hope it stands up to the test of time, bc that'll only benefit consumers. as of now, it's a big pass by me. looks promising tho!

[@CaptainRon1913]

Problem, not issue. Issues are magazines and newspapers

[@milesonewheelwinter]

It looks kinda slow and bulky unless thats just you...

[@crashyride]

Slow? No. Bulky? Yes. Just me? Definitely. I'd recommend checking out Maxx Send's Trail Ride video if you want to see someone actually throw the board around.

[@MrTimmyGT]

Idk, taking an hour of my time to fiddle with cryptocurrency apps to save $1400 sounds like a deal to me....idk what you guys do for a living but I sure don't get paid $1400/hr 😂

[@AndreKelma]

FW is a horrible product. My bumpers cracked, my rails are hairline fracturing between the adjustment holes, ive been having connectivity issues. All the responses in the FW community were basically "Its growing pains, Tony got you", well fuck me and wanting to ride NOW without worrying, right?

[@crashyride]

Tony is still in the process of sending out v2 plastic bumpers, you should get them soon. Your rails are cracking? That's unheard of. Do you have the Pro rails or the regular rails? If you're having trouble with the board please reach out to Tony, he's been very good about helping out his customers.

[@waktosha7378]

I would buy a FloatWheel over a OneWheel any day! I hate Future Motion with their anti-right to repair and other scummy business tactics!

[@TheSakufighter]

Complaining about the Onewheel is like being an iPhone owner and complaining you can’t upgrade the battery etc. these morons couldn’t engineer anything yet act like everything fm makes sucks because they can’t mess with everything in a sue happy country.

[@justh0dl]

i'll get a floatwheel once they fix all the issues, make it under 40 lb and accept straight up bitcoin and not some take dollars on some shitcoin network.

[@RickLeon7]

Answering the question… No thanks 🫡