Should You Get a Full Size Truck?

[@itsdarkest]

Thank you for not having music! I love the nature and engine sounds.

[@TinkerersAdventure]

Brilliant! Very relatable and helpful perspectives. I just tested out a 3rd gen Tundra TRD Pro while I've been wheeling an FJ Cruiser for 10 years. I always see myself as a technical wheeler, but doing much easier trails in a Tundra didn't bore me as I thought it would. I also enjoyed the on road ride and handling more than I thought I would. Basically, the level of joy at the end of the day was similar for both vehicles, just different.

[@RevereOverland]

That’s awesome! I went from a 4Runner to a Tundra and have no regrets. I think you’ll love the change.

[@rockie307]

Ive been going down jeep trails on my crew cab f150 for years. Key is accepting scratches dents as part of life. Might have to back up a time or two where a jeep just drives right through. Ill accept the trade off in comfort and gear. I use my truck for base camp hunting fishing prospecting hiking etc for weeks at a time. No way my family could do what we do with anything smaller. Matter of fact just upgraded to a 23 f250 crew cab 3780 lb payload. 37s on a 1 inch lift skid plates sliders locker. Its taller and longer than my half ton same width though. Funny thing most of the jeeps and forerunners i see have so much stuff on the roof and sides there as big or bigger then my full size trucks. Kind of defeats the purpose in my opinion just get a bigger rig keep it streamlined.

[@waxifari5528]

Watching brodozer full size rigs 3 point turn over the abyss in Moab at each switchback made me love my Taco more than ever. If you can approach over landing like mechanized backpacking and can swing a midsize is the bees knees. Your rig is not complete until you’ve taken the last useless bit of overhyped crap off of it 😂.

[@RevereOverland]

A Tacoma or midsize is definitely far better suited to Moab or wheeling in general. I know families of 3 that have struggled to comfortably take long overland trips in a Tacoma though, and ended up buying a trailer for more space. My personal preference would be to take a full size over a trailer, especially when trying to tow with a Tacoma!

[@waxifari5528]

@@RevereOverland No doubt. We’re 4 but we mange only because we ground tent and I am super aggressive with keeping light and only bringing the essentials. Constantly dialing in what we carry - again backpacker mindset. For us it’s a conscious trade off. I just need to make it till daughter turns 16 then my dream is two mid size rigs 🤣 to get more space/capacity.

[@69sound81]

This is a great video. I am a truck guy and a sportscar guy, so big engines are the holy grail for me. A truck seems quite fitting and to be honest, most people are gonna be just fine with a full size truck for anything the wanna do. The power under the hood makes it quite capable of climbing almost anything, the bed makes for a great utility and working vehicle, the space in the inside is amazing for a family and the longer wheel base makes for a more stable vehicle at high speeds as well as a better towing plattform. I was thinking about a mid size truck, speciphically the nissan frontier, but I think I would gain nothing while loosing a lot of versatility. I tow often, I use the bed for gear, wood, lumber, tools, etc. I have a family of 4 and I honestly have a big load of stuff everywhere in the truck. So what would I gain? I don't really do super hard and tight trails at all and fuel is not a big concern for me. If someone is thinking about what to get i would suggest the next: 1) Full size truck: you have a family that requires space daily and you put the vehicle to work (tow and haul on a regular basis). 2) Mid size truck: you have a family that sometimes goes with you but not daily, you like the working ability of a truck but don't use that capability so often, you don't tow heavy. 3) 4 door SUV: you really need space for the family, you don't need the working ability of a pickup truck and you don't tow heavy or large (only overland trailers and similar) 4) 2 door Wrangler: your only concern is the capability of the vehicle to go through any trail. You dont need space for the family, you dont need the vehicle to haul anything but the offroad gear, you don't really tow nothing. Hooe this helps at least 1 person

[@bonzaiberger]

Wow! I can't believe how easily you guys walked right up pumpkin hollow! Very impressive. At the beginning I kinda chuckled because I also go to Spaas Creek because it is a good baseline test of capability.

[@TriStateOverland]

Spaas Creek is just silly fun any time of year in any rig. I love that trail. Mountain Springs though… that was wild!

[@RevereOverland]

I was surprised! Spaas Creek was the very first trail I drove here, so I really like it. Mountain Springs is awesome too. I'd like to take the Tundra through there now that the Habitat is off.

[@TriStateOverland]

@@RevereOverland we are going a few times in 24. Our yearly event is April 18-21, but we will be there 3-4 times at least. You should come!

[@bonzaiberger]

@@RevereOverland speaking of the Habitat, I really wish that it was for a 6.5 bed because I would love to come and get it!

[@OverlandAI420]

We love our Fundra too. It’s amazing what we can pack in it and it drives like there is no weight on it. Toyota’s are driven all over the world in some of the worst terrain’s imaginable. They chew the terrain up and ask for more.

[@jimandmaryadventures]

I had a 2008 Tundra SR5 Crew-cab TRD Off-road with a shell on the back and a 1-1/2 inch lift that I put 240,000 mostly trouble-free miles on. Many thousands of miles off road here in the west and a few back east. I also drove it in some un-Godly blizzards and it never let me down. Never had to chain it up. The only trouble I had was a bad MAF at 50,000 miles, new right rear wheel bearing - factory design flaw with a TRB - rebuilt the drive shaft at 185,000 miles and a new starter at 210,000 miles. There were a few times when the size was a problem off road, such as the turning radius and width. The Lippincott road in Death Valley was a challenge due to width as were some tight hairpin turns on trails in Colorado. The brackets for the tube steps were all bent backwards and the skids had their share of battle scars. Overall, the truck was rather competent off road and I was able to take it places that others were not able to in their rigs. The storage was great. For travel, it was easy to drive and very comfortable. I traded it for a Land Cruiser that is unstoppable. The Land Cruiser is even quieter and more comfortable than the Tundra. Do miss the storage space though. Some day, I might get another Tundra. Driven right, it is surprising where full-sized trucks can go.

[@RevereOverland]

Those 2nd gen Tundras and Land Cruisers are ridiculously reliable! I want to take this through Death Valley - I'm sure it'll make it, but I'm also sure it'll be a challenge.

[@jimandmaryadventures]

@@RevereOverland Sad thing about Death Valley right now is most back-country roads are closed due to severe flood damage done by the remnants of Hurricane Hillary last August. A couple have been re-opened such as Echo Canyon but most others are still closed with many not having a proposed re-opening date. Some of the roads are just gone, having been completely washed away. There are a few roads in Death Valley where the Tundra was a tight fit and one shelf road that has a bridge rated at only 5000 pounds. No place to turn around either. Even though my Tundra was running perfectly when I traded it for the Land Cruiser, I was getting to where, with that many miles, I was not trusting it. When I tackled the Lippincott, I was stopping at several places to take photographs and to explore. Once I got back to pavement on Highway 190, I did not realize that I was only three engine starts away before the starter failed. One at Furnace Creek, one at Baker, CA and the last was at my house in Lake Arrowhead when I was going to another house. There, I had to have it towed. If it had failed out in the Saline Valley, I would have been in a world of hurt. That area is so remote, I don't think my Ham radio would have made it out. I did have plenty of supplies so that wasn't an issue. But still. At that many miles, you do start to worry about the ancillary components. Usually, everything works perfectly until it doesn't. Do get to Death Valley when things are re-opened. The hinterland is beautiful and many fascinating places to visit!

[@peterhoma6385]

I totally agree up until 8/8/24 I’ve owned nothing but Tacomas my last Tacoma was 2021 TRD OR 4x4 and just recently switched to a tundra crew max limited OR 4x4 that came with a 3 inch TRD lift from the factory , and I can tell you this much I don’t miss my Tacoma , I just love love this new tundra in every way , thanks for sharing your adventures with us all they are amazing !!! Keep up the excellent work , cheers 🍻

[@honeybadger2132]

We've been using a F250 Tremor stock mechanicals, with a rack, RTT and the bed full of gear, and as long as it's only pinstripes we're game. We also tow a 32 ft enclosed trailer with 2 cars to shows cross country. We're in the PNW, so there are plenty of places to go wheeling full size. It's nice to have this level of capability out of the box both on & offroad.

[@afamilyoutside]

100K subs..heck yeah!!!! Congrats Rob. Oh and great video too with lots of great info.

[@joemzd]

Nitto! Nice, I have the Nomad Grapplers, which are the hybrid crossover AT tires. Been happy with them, especially in the snow. I accidentally lowered them down to 14 PSI in my trip with Justin and you can see on some shots they did just fine over the ledges.

[@RevereOverland]

That’s good to hear! I’m taking these out in the snow next week

[@Venture2Roam]

You know what's better than a full sized truck? A Van. What's better than a van? An RV. What's better than an RV? A house. So I guess I'll just stay home.

[@RevereOverland]

Stay under your bridge, troll 😉

[@Venture2Roam]

@@RevereOverland 👹

[@duane4972]

Stay home and look at the same 4 walls and the TV. you're afraid of change and adventure. You'll die with regrets not memories. 5 years of adventure and I'm not tired of it yet.

[@J.Young808]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tomkelly3896]

Lol✌ habitat no mas

[@thesecondhalf5823]

I went from a full size to a Tacoma. I absolutely love my Tacoma but its mostly just me and my dog for now. Next rig will a heavy duty. I've learned I'm a traveler/adventurer, not a rock crawler.

[@USAF-SF]

Spot on Rob! I've been in a full size since 2012 with my current rig being a 2014 Power Wagon and nearly 110K miles. I hope the Nitto tires treat you well, I've been running the Ridge Grapplers for over 60K miles now and I'll be replacing them next week, they have far exceeded my expectations. Cheers...

[@joelbundy4835]

I had Terra Grapplers and then Ridge Grapplers on my '16 Tacoma and loved both. I ordered a set of Recon Grapplers for my new '23 Tundra last week and am very pumped to finally replace the Michelin "Trail" Tires 🤣. My good experiences with Nitto (and the relatively low weight of the Recons) steered me in this direction.

[@RevereOverland]

That’s good to hear. These are the first Nittos I’ve ever used.

[@Nathyneo]

This is just what I was looking for. Starting to get into overlanding and all my buddies have mid size trucks/suv’s. I on the other hand have a 2020 Tundra Pro and was pretty hesitant about joining in with them on some of the trails. This makes me feel a bit more confident about the capabilities of my full size truck. Thank you!

[@RevereOverland]

You can definitely do it, but you’ll take a little more time and spotting!

[@OFFTHEGRIND]

Looks like a fun trail! Those nittos did great!

[@RevereOverland]

It's a great trail. I'm looking forward to getting out and testing them out more!

[@tempusfugit3635]

after the habitat, what's next? I love my F150 offroad, but my biggest limitation is the breakover angle. Width is less of an issue in the West. Space makes all the difference

[@frontierstateoverland3816]

Great info Rob! Im constantly impressed with your ability to squeeze that Tundra into tight places!

[@RevereOverland]

Just gotta bring a chain saw for the Lolo!

[@robertgoodrich8953]

Used LandCruisers for years. With no L/C available, I went with a Ram PowerWagon. Bought a 22 in 23 and couldn't be happier. It Only needed wheels and tires and ready to rock box stock : locking diffs front and rear, 12,000lbwinch, electric front sway bar release and now with Method semi-bead locks with 35 inch you M/T yoko g003 . With that setup all You have to worry about is finding wide enough trails. That is not hard to do!

[@Tommy-rr7ez]

Hey Robert good choice on Ram! I've got a 94 Dodge Ram 2500 5 speed manual single cab and I love it! Mine shocking has the tightest turning ratio of any vehicle I've ever had and it is definetly a Blessing for sure so not sure bout how newer ones are like yours? But I like to ask you, you said yours all it needed was tires and wheels. Dodge when mine came out and newer years but don't know how long or if they still do it came from factory with a 3 and a half inch lift on it for their Ram 2500s. So if yours was stock and you said all yours needed was tires and wheels yours probly had a 3 and a half factory lift to? My main question is do you know if I can put 33 tires on narrows without lifting more cause I do not want to lift it higher? I appreciate any help!

[@Risran]

I bought a 2011 SR5 double cab Tundra with 167,000km and a 3" level one year ago. I debated between a Tacoma and a Tundra for three months before I made the decision. The main reason I went for the full size was "bang for my buck". A 2012/13 Taco with 200,000km+ was 25,000$ my Tundra was 18,000$. I get more power, space, towing capacity, bed space. The fuel economy is the only downside but when you factor in putting a lift and 33" tires on any Taco the economy is the same or worse than the Tundra. I'm pleased with my decision, I've already towed and hauled a lot and haven't been disappointed! Cheers from Nova Scotia!

[@RevereOverland]

I think you made the right choice! I'm not sure what the conversion to l/100km is, but my buddy gets

[@Risran]

@@RevereOverland Funny you say that, a friend of mine did the same with his Taco and he gets close to 20L/100km vs. my 15.8L/100km. So I definitely felt more comfortable with my decision after that.

[@sim-sam]

Interesting and reinforcing: we built our new one on a almost new, low km (no, no miles here) Ranger Raptor with the goal, that the vehicle stays as modular as possible, meaning, that it can be used for "overlanding" (or such, whatever it is) with long distance, but also trails with some distance to travel to and from the trails. With the goal, that it stays usable during times, where we are not overlanding and mostly, that it stays as original as necessary and possible. Thus, it might not be as ruggedized, as other vehicles out there, the advantage of a multiuse-thing was and is key with us...

[@douglasvamateurradioandmore]

I’ve gotten my cc sb f250 in and out of places that i shouldn’t have. I have also gotten stuck more than if i had a 4wd instead of a 2wd. Sand and river rocks have been my enemy with deep slushy mud the 2nd worst. Then again, I didn’t do some of the trails that you have and i have never done overlanding.

[@Jay-me7gw]

100%. I have an F150 on 35's and a GX460 on 33's. Even though the F150 has probably 3-4" of my clearance in the middle, the GX is able to get over most obstacles with less fuss. I've wheeled both in Moab on similar trails and the truck needed more careful lines to prevent high centering and had to give up in a few spots because I didnt have sliders. And of course the full size truck is easier to fit bigger tires on. 315/70's on my truck were easier to fit than 285/70's on my GX. I will say, that the new mid-sized trucks coming out are going to have tons of torque. Ranger and Colorado 2.7's are torque monsters and should have zero issue moving a loaded down truck. Also, a Wrangler and Gladiator had the EcoD.

[@TheKwiggins]

think it depends on where your at, I had full sized and just down sized to mid size pnw constantly has old slides trees down and overgrown roads and the mid size has really helped me access the immediate area. but damn I wish I had my raptor back when I was in eastern Oregon

[@johnculver3294]

I like the capacity and comfort of a full size for remote camping but it’s really hard to beat a Jeep for pure off roading. Seriously considering trading my Titan Pro4x for a ZR2 Silverado or Power Wagon. Or maybe keep the Titan and build an older SUV that I’m not as worried about damaging. Decisions Decision’s!

[@RevereOverland]

It's all about the priorities and compromises, so is always a tough decision!

[@bquade70]

Power wagon👍👍

[@Ethereal_Overland]

Rocking my 05 V8 Runner but looking at tires. KO2s are my go to but maybe need to check these nittos out🤔

[@RevereOverland]

I love KO2s for packed snow and longevity, but I had such bad luck with them going out of round. I have no clue how these will hold up, but they should be better about staying round thanks to their construction.

[@jimrice4699]

Re: Tires. I'm on my second set of Nitro Ridge Grapplers on my '05 V6 Runner. For my use, I probably wouldn't buy them again and probably shouldn't have bought the second set. Reason being I value wet pavement traction and I also value a better snow/ice traction in the shoulder seasons before I switch to my winter tires. In my experience, the RG's seem great for their designed purpose in summer but considerably lacking on wet pavement and snow/ice in the shoulder seasons. They are also surprisingly quiet when new, less so as they age. My issues included: The hard rubber got REAL hard by year three with close to half the tread depth still remaining. By that time the tires were VERY sketchy on wet pavement and highways. To me, they were "scary". I sold them at that point to someone that could use them safely for their occasional purposes on a 1 ton truck and replaced with a new set. The new set were an immediate improvement. I live in the Seattle WA region, so safety on wet, paved highways and around wet paved corners is very important. Also, given our latitude there is a material risk of "shoulder season" snow and ice either locally or when driving around the Western USA in November. HOWEVER, when the RG's are new they are quiet, nicely aggressive, and just fine (not great) on wet pavement at speed. This November (23) I quite literally followed a blizzard during a drive from Seattle to Northern Michigan, the blizzard caught me overnight in Missoula and left an ice slide the rest of the way to MI. I quite literally drove on ice covered freeway for nearly 1,000 miles, passing untold semi's in the ditches. Max speed generally 40-50 mph, sometimes in the 30's. I'm hear to tell the story. Whew. The second set of newer RG's tires did much better than I expected on the icy freeway (I think because they are relatively new) but I was definitely on the knife edge of traction. I'm sure it would have been somewhat less of "white knuckle" experience with good, new, 3PMS tire known for better snow/ice traction. Perhaps the Falken Wildpeak? During the 1,000 mile ice drive, more than once - in fact every time - I did a brake test I found I had almost no traction. I also found at times a good technique was to watch the (rare) pickup ahead of me and when their rear end began sliding out (usally on an incline at speeds of 35-45 mph) I'd back off. LOL. The highways were virtually empty and the majority of the ice drive was across the northern Great Plains so the risks were mostly the side ditches. Bottom line, for my use case with wet highways and the risk of snow and ice during the shoulder season before I switch to winter tires, I'd go 3PMS next time vs. a Nitto that is not 3PMS and not known for good snow traction. I"m also not a hard core off-roader but I do get out occasionally mostly solo for exploring, hiking and hunting and I want the vehicle off-road capable enough to get me home when on those solo back-road adventures. My 05 4R has a small lift, steel armor underneath, Old Man EMU shocks, re-geared (best thing I did), locker front and rear and was near max GVWR during the ice drive.

[@TheUnexpectedOffRoad]

Full size for the win!!

[@RevereOverland]

If your H2 can fit, my Tundra can fit! I think my turning circle and clearance angles are far worse though.

[@TheUnexpectedOffRoad]

@RevereOverland yeah you definitely have bigger turning radius, I'm between a 4dr jk and gladiator, once your used to your rig, the full size truck comfort is a win for me no sore back at the end of a long trail day!!

[@TheShooter466]

Spass and pumpkin, nice fullsize trails rn

[@TB-dj8kl]

I would love to stuff like this, so I bought an atv years ago. Really nice truck set up you have.

[@RevereOverland]

Thanks! An ATV is definitely a lot easier

[@NorthologyAdventures]

Ha! Great job! Good info on the mid vs. full size as far as towing, highway miles and wheeling. I feel like Spaas was easier in my stock Frontier and Pumpkin Hollow was easier in the E350. I guess it depends on the day, tho.

[@RevereOverland]

That's interesting to know! That explains why we found it so easy. You're right though, those trails change day to day.

[@Kronusoverland]

We also use a full size truck,,, Titan pro 4x,, I prefer the size, comfort, power when needed,,

[@RevereOverland]

Definitely! Most people don't go back to midsize after going full size!

[@evilwhitey98]

What's the ground to bottom of the sliders measurement on it now? Really great video to help those of us considering a full size rig.

[@Vanisl4runner1]

I drive an OLD 1st Gen Cummins. It’s unbelievably capable and I get 27mpg when I’m empty and 23mpg with the overland camper on the back

[@rlaracue]

How do you like the Recon's and what are your post Toyo RT Trail thoughts? I have a 2023 1794 TRD Offroad with the 3" Toyota factory lift kit. I went with the Falken RT-01s in 35x12.5R17s on Icon wheels. I also may do a big brake kit but will need to move up to 18s to do it. Love the Tundra overall but I would like a Landcruiser for weekend rock crawling. :)

[@RevereOverland]

I like them both, but for different purposes. The RT Trails are great for the Jeep since it's mostly used in sticky muddy trails close to home, but the Nittos are so much quieter, and so far seem to suite the Tundra more. The Falken RTs also look great.

[@rlaracue]

Thanks for the feedback. I was looking at the Recons and may try them next but so far the RTs are great and pretty quiet overall. @@RevereOverland

[@joseperezpaz9986]

Love this truck!! Glad I went with 1794 TrdOffroad 23 Tundra 😊

[@RevereOverland]

Good choice!

[@mphRagnarok]

Haha finally you've decided to right that wrong and sell the Habitat. You going for the alucab? I remember the envy in your voice that last video where you reviewed all your options

[@RevereOverland]

Lol! I remembered your AluCab comment when I made the decision. You apparently knew before I did!

[@pmurphy12667]

The myth of full size trucks not being capable is just that..a myth. I have a built up 2014 Silverado 1500 and pull a Off grid trailer Expedition 2.0 and have been able to go anywhere a Jeep or Tacoma or Bronco can go. You have to be more mindful especially with an off road trailer but for the most part any trail any place. Except black bear pass!!!! :)

[@robhoffman510]

Living here in the Tetons we have spent the last decade exploring Canada to Mexico in our kitted out 4Runner (that’s how I found your channel), but we also like to haul a 16’ camper around occasionally and I’m starting to think the Tundra would make a nice tow vehicle that can still get us to most trailheads and back again. just curious, did you find the longer cab to be too negative for off road? It doesn’t seem to impact the rear angle of decent much although it does lengthen the wheelbase…. PS - CBI Rocks!

[@Shadow56399]

@Revere Do you have any thoughts on a 200 series Landcruiser (on 33s or 35s) build? It's a full size suv, a whole 4" wider than the upcoming GX550. It looks to me to be the perfect middle ground between a 4Runner and Tundra.

[@RevereOverland]

The 200 Series is a solid choice. It’ll last forever, is a decent size with good storage, but also has great visibility.

[@Shadow56399]

@@RevereOverland my thoughts exactly! I wonder why more people don't make builds with them; I know of no Overland KZbinrs rocking a 200 series build.

[@RevereOverland]

@@Shadow56399 Expedition Overland have/had one. I think they're a little too pricey for most - a used one can go for more than my brand new Tundra cost.

[@Shadow56399]

@@RevereOverland Yep, XOverland still has it I think, they tried selling it last year but had no takers. I don't think they produce content with it anymore though, because they're sponsored by Toyota, and therefore they want to use modern Toyotas currently for sale - so the 200 got sidelined in favor of the new Sequoia.

[@overland_dadsfl]

Hey Rob what are you planning for afte the Habitat? Now I'm curious.🤘🤘

[@RevereOverland]

Something that Commonwealth 4x4 sell!

[@mack86523]

@@RevereOverland Those Alucabs look nice!

[@jimrice4699]

Well done show. Thank You!

[@rpmmcmaster]

I overland a 98 dodge diesel that’s very heavily modified all custom work done by me steel front and rear winch bumpers (the rear also has a humvee style spare tire holder) onboard air 10 gallon tank, with twin pacbrake HP625 compressors, a headache rack to mount one spare, with a removable overhead rack (with light bars etc all powered by a 8D AGM battery in the bed that is charged off the two front AGM’s) so I can still tow my big gooseneck and 5th wheel trailers with it, I’m running a 3” lift on 37/12.5R17’s on rock monster double beadlock 2 piece wheels, Dana 80 rear with chrome Molly shafts and a chrome Molly LSD with custom clutch stacks for significantly less slip, same in front with manual locking hubs for driving in hard surfaces so i don’t brake shafts because of the front LSD the engine is running compound turbos making about 750 horse and 1,600 ft lbs so even with all the added weight it’ll still outrun a TRX in the quarter lol, transmission I also build with all billet internals except the intermediate shaft since they’re prone to snapping, also under carriage armor front to back. So long story short depending on the trails height and width restrictions your planning to run full sized trucks work fine just be prepared to spend a lot of money and time to get it to the same place as a smaller overland rig, also price wise if you have the knowledge to do the work yourself like I do it’ll save you A TON of money

[@rpmmcmaster]

Also totally love the video bro

[@WolfOverland]

Damn you make me miss my tundra!!! Don’t miss the 10mpg. Diesel gladiator on 37s is 20highway. 16 in 4 low. My 2014 tundra walked up that narrow section too. It was by less then a inch. Can’t wait for your next big upgrade…. That downed tree 😂 my gladiator almost fit too. You regear the tundra?!?

[@RevereOverland]

Gotta love diesels! I wish Toyota did a diesel too - I'd be all over it. The Gladiator didn't fit either? Maybe it's time that tree came down. Stock gears at the moment. I'd like to regear when something is available.

[@WolfOverland]

@@RevereOverland it was close. That new tent I have above the alucab topper was just enough to not take the chance. I have a solar panel up there too.

[@007Knightjp]

What tire pressures do you keep when going on trails?

[@christiaanb9061]

Awesome video! Which camera and monitor do you have setup within the vehicle?

[@RevereOverland]

It’s the setup that comes on the Tundra Limited and above TRD Off Road as standard.

[@jeffbettenga]

I don't think I have ever seen a video off east coast off roading that was not wet and muddy, does it ever dry out?

[@jimandmaryadventures]

Having grown up back east and spent many a summer wheeling out of the Asheville area, no, it does not.

[@RevereOverland]

Never!

[@johnfitzgerald5158]

Even when it is "dry" out, you are still going to find some wet.

[@GA-uc2um]

No. Humidity and canopy prevent that. Let's go get wet!

[@JoshuaSeward]

Hey Jeremy! Deep fried pizza rolls! IYKYK

[@RevereOverland]

I don't know, but I hope it's an option at the next Commonwealth 4x4 meetup.

[@DotsonsSmokehouseandGrill]

Yeah baby! You gotta try it.

[@ThePyleDriver]

It would be great if the Tundra was available in 3/4 ton config. Having a built LS swapped JKU already, my truck desire leans in the hard side 4 season camper direction. Unfortunately that means a US make with all the reliability issues that come with it. Leaning toward a GMC AT4XHD at this point...

[@RevereOverland]

I wish Toyota made something 3/4 ton too. I'd probably go with the F250 or Ram 2500, but the GMC does look good.

[@larshamilton40]

just slapped some 35" Falken RT's on my Glad, but if Nitto wants to send me some free Trail Recon's , i'd give them a try 😉😄 what are you replacing the Habitat with? GFC?

[@RevereOverland]

You don’t like the Falken RTs? I’ve heard good things about them

[@larshamilton40]

@@RevereOverland i love the RT"s, switched over from BFG KO3 m/t,, but i'll still take some free tires from Nitto if t hey want to hook a brother up 😀👍

[@RevereOverland]

@@larshamilton40 I know they've given them to a bunch of KZbinrs recently. Just gotta grow that channel!

[@xphoenix.1j]

I have a white Tundra, I’m interested in doing the black section on the hood. Figured I’d do vinyl, what did you use for that? Thanks

[@RevereOverland]

I have a Cascadia 4x4 solar panel, but can't recommend it.

[@007Knightjp]

If you are selling the habitat, what is the plan?

[@DADuTV_]

I’m a fan of smaller but mostly lighter on trails.

[@RevereOverland]

For wheeling it's the best choice

[@mattkrea]

Curious what longevity looks like on these new tires. I'll never buy Toyo again after my experience with the Open Country AT3s (basically wore to almost no tread depth left after 10,000 miles) and since Toyo and Nitro are the same company at this point I have my concerns.

[@RevereOverland]

Yikes. I got about 35k miles on my AT3s before my alignment went out and I destroyed them. I've been told that the Nittos are a much harder compound, which means less grip but longer life.

[@mattkrea]

@@RevereOverland I used to run the Nitto trail grapplers on my Gladiator and aside from being magnets for nails on the road wherever I was driving back then they seemed to hold up pretty well. Could be that the AT3s aren't meant for a 10,000lb Sprinter. 😀

[@johnfitzgerald5158]

​@mattkrea my wife had Nitto Terra Grapplers on her Grand Cherokee that were nail magnets. They discontinued them. I have been running 37x13.5 R17 Toyo Open Country MTs E load on my Power Wagon for a while with no problems, ever. Based on my first set I'd say I'm getting 25K+ on them. My truck is pushing 8K lbs with all the armor I have on it. I punish them on hardcore east coast rock crawling trails, as well. Not concerned at all about puncturing these.

[@larry04456]

I always get a kick out of this debate and saying this have never taken a tape measure and actually measured either but here is my question take a tundra built like yours with 37 and the other popular build people seem to go to the jeep Gladiator Rubicon with 37s I would be really curious to get actual measurements of both just my observation don't think your going to find a big difference in physical size

[@RevereOverland]

I bet most really built Gladiators are a similar width at the wheels. They’re narrower up top, shorter, and definitely have a better turning circle and angles. I’d rather wheel a Gladiator for sure, but I’d hate to drive one across the country!

[@OzarkOverlandAdventures]

Should have titled this video "Yeah I hate Jeeps and here's why." 😂

[@RevereOverland]

That's going to be its own video that will be out early next year!

[@HaydenCMH]

Great timing with the Cybertruck event!

[@RevereOverland]

Are you getting one?

[@HaydenCMH]

@@RevereOverland Hopefully! Maybe in about a year or two, depending on how quickly they can pump them out the factory.

[@rebeloutdoors1621]

Rumor has it a Moose made that bypass

[@ROBERTRICHDALE]

I live in Pennsylvania so full-size truck for wheeling on the east coast probably not the best for the job. Tacoma or jeep is better for the east coast. If the open range out west is your back yard, then full size would probably be better. Most of the trails on the east coast are old logging roads or old mining roads. since we have a lot of tree cover trails are wet and slick mud more time than not. Hard call the extra room is nice but so is the smaller footprint of a mid-size.

[@RevereOverland]

Agreed. For wheeling the east it's mostly doable in full size, but it's just so much easier in a Tacoma, 4Runner, Jeep, etc.

[@josephinebustos8074]

I’ll look into Nitto’s. My Tundra have KO2s currently and have 29K miles.

[@RevereOverland]

You've probably got another 30k miles on the KO2s!

[@toyotatrailtrash]

I guess I could drive a full size truck… as long as it’s a Toyota!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@RevereOverland]

Heck yeah! I wish they made a 3/4 ton.

[@ludviglyberth257]

Super 👍👏

[@TheAngryCamper]

short answer, no.... long answer, where do you plan to go.... and then beware any camper that sits on your bed rails.....My bed is destroyed from trying to rock crawl in a Tundra with an FWC project M....

[@RevereOverland]

Dang. Those don't weigh a lot do they? Hopefully your insurance takes care of you.

[@TheAngryCamper]

@@RevereOverland No insurance for this issue, the camper weighs about 450lbs. It is a total bummer

[@jimrice4699]

Hey Angry Camper, saw that video. Thanks for sharing the issue with the community. A well known off-road retailer spread the bed rails on a power wagon by using it is a chase vehicle with a lighter lift top topper - I think a "Go-Fast" Camper Topper with lift top. I believe they are a bit lighter than a Project M. Different problem from yours, but still a problem. Their fix was to put some bracing at the rear corners of the bed. They also admit that chasing and getting air while the topper was still attached is a bit "over the TOPper". It would be great if someone investigated the issue of bed rail collapse or bending more broadly so the "community" knows what actually works and what doesn't.

[@TheAngryCamper]

@@jimrice4699 Thanks for the comment, I fixed mine by sliding a 1.5x1.5" steel tube across the front of the bed and welding on arms that bolt to the frame, its solid now but frankly I am gun shy about hitting any real rough terrain anymore with that setup

[@sunchaser999]

Careful…Once you go full size it’s nearly impossible to go smaller after that.

[@larrybriggs2920]

That trail just sounded sloppy and soupy. No test for the Tundra.

[@RevereOverland]

It wasn't really a challenge, no

[@JohnHMoore]

Why selling the habitat?

[@RevereOverland]

Switching out to something that Commonwealth 4x4 sell, since I'm working with them.

[@jeffbettenga]

Alu-cabs are pretty dang nice!

[@reginaldchesterfield8110]

Tell me youre selling it without telling me youre selling it hahah

[@DowntownCharlieBrown-w5c]

Im confused. Driving through a muddy trail and puddles 5mph is that much fun? Are you serious? Buy something cheaper and go to the beach dude.

[@MoragTong_]

Lol...a Tundra may be "full-size"...but its not a full size truck. It's a desk jockey F-150 wanna be truck. If you're gonna go offroad get a Jeep, if you need a truck, go 2500+ or you're wasting your money.

[@RevereOverland]

No