Should You Pair a Mini PC with an External GPU? ft. Geekom XT12 Pro

[@zWORMzGaming]

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[@timothyplayzx9961]

Please overclock Arc A770

[@MrEditorsSideKick]

Thermal bottleneck unlocked!

[@zWORMzGaming]

Whyyy geekoom?... 🥲 I just want them to make an i9 mini PC that's bigger for better thermals!

[@BoboFerre]

​@@zWORMzGamingcooling an i9 even for gaming laptops is hard a lot of gaming laptops are also in the 80 degrees

[@zWORMzGaming]

Yeah but they usually run at higher than 35W when gaming

[@13fb1]

هل تنصحني بشرائه؟​@@zWORMzGaming

[@MaxVelzgg]

Seems like an easy fix, an 360 aio would be enough

[@alexanderx78]

Cpu at 95 degrees C in CS2, at only 30-35W 💀 98 degrees at 36W in Apex Legends 💀💀💀

[@AngryKookie]

and this is considered to be the 'light" use... I can only imagine how hot its gonna get when used for video or 3d rendering etc

[@Jakiyyyyy]

Imagine this on AIDA64 💀

[@ReEnaCtCky]

Intel moment

[@LuminousSpace]

@@ReEnaCtCky nah amd also similar temperature for mini pic and handheld, it reach 90c too, but ofc better performance

[@Alecup06]

What does this mean its a thermal bottle neck?

[@rajarshisamadder3265]

its nice to see that bro is not bothered with that temparature

[@shranobshrestha]

Experimental video, nice!!!!

[@Lerington]

I haven't seen the video but you already have my like

[@zWORMzGaming]

Thanks mate!

[@Josue31627]

Always appreciate your honest reviews on your minipcs. They're a neat little concept but the vast majority of these need some major work if they are to be taken seriously by other markets such as gamers. Those temperatures... that's worse than some laptops! Performance might be mostly there for its tier but I except a minidesktop to have better temps than a laptop.

[@boiiison1523]

Always up with another BANGER!

[@yavuzhannnn]

Maybe try it with an i9 Laptop next time if possible, it'll be interesting...

[@GEEKOMPC]

Your review of our product is invaluable to us. We greatly value your feedback on GEEKOM products!

[@Izpro]

Appreciating all your work for videos :)

[@logikextremist8554]

I've bought a used Razer X Chroma + RTX 3060 Ti for 399.- and for my needs it's perfectly fine.

[@AndreFreitas91250]

The main issue with these PCs with superpowerful small form factor cpus is their durability with such high temperatures. I had an experience before with an i9 laptop has a professional rig that reached regularly near 90C (and even above that sometimes). The motherboard only lasted 3.5 years.

[@priyanksharma9667]

Oh I'm almost in the same boat as my laptop goes 85+ consistently while playing games. Did your laptop go beyond 90 during non-gaming activities too? asking cuz now I'm worried about my laptop :((

[@Чеховський-ы8ю]

@@priyanksharma9667try to undervolt both cpu and gpu

[@priyanksharma9667]

@@Чеховський-ы8ю Proper undervolting is not available for my cpu(r5 5600h). What I did was reducing the performance to 93% and that reduced the temps by a lot.

[@Чеховський-ы8ю]

@@priyanksharma9667 so you just turned off the boosting?

[@priyanksharma9667]

@@Чеховський-ы8ю No there’s an option where you can underclock by limiting the power supply to the cpu

[@einstien2409]

Man, there should be better support for this external GPU stuff. This is atrocious.

[@SelinaWhite-u1h]

The perfect machine, not only is his power consumption low, but he runs the games I'm currently playing perfectly, it's just the perfect fit for me and I can't wait to own it.

[@VishalAnandTM]

dont judge using gpu utilization ... its misleading ... the gpu could downclock itself and show a higher utilization % ... gpu power consumption seems like a better alternative to see if the gpu is being taxed

[@wanaan]

These miniPCs with upcoming 2024-2025 APU will be very good for my use case (mostly office works, very light gaming when my nephew visits).

[@mikelogbuli8175]

Love this video I was really hoping you will make one like this your biggest fan from Nigeria ❤❤

[@Trick-Framed]

11:00 It is definitely the PCIe 3 x 4 you have the gpu running on. That is really really slow. It would cause the issues you are seeing.

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

I wish you tested an eGpu with oculink connection

[@ogrejd]

So, what you're saying is that the RTX 4070 Ti Super is still a damned good card even when severely crippled? :) In every game, you're getting numbers my RX 6600 could only dream of at settings & resolutions I wouldn't consider even for a second to try with it... :P

[@tobo6162]

Love these videos ❤

[@whitebeltbjj3739]

Good idea to try this in one of your videos.

[@gabyalex999]

Nice experiment 😉

[@zWORMzGaming]

Thanks 😃

[@gabyalex999]

@@zWORMzGaming I think the proprietary XG Mobile from ASUS has a better BUS than TB4.

[@mruczyslaw50]

If the bandwidth is what is limiting this GPU, if you lower the resolution the difference in performance between full PCI-E x16 and Thunderbolt should also be smaller

[@fatidicusaeternus6498]

I think you'd do better by disabling the e-cores. It might alleviate the thermal throttling on the CPU.

[@michaelthompson9798]

It’s great to see how far compact sff mini PCs have come and these can be great for a htpc setup (mini pc model dependent) 🥰🥳😇💪👍

[@asdsad17]

it's still better than the onboard gpu. if the usb 4 is holding you back. you can get a mini pc with oculink. or rig an adapter and cable to the m.2 slot and cut a hole on the case. should you go for mini itx? yes, but the mini pc can be a lot cheaper to start with.

[@timothysullivan-pm3sl]

I mean I was hoping to see you testing Ghost of Tsuhima on the 4070 ti super……i guess ill take it lol….awesome vid man lol

[@r3tr0c0e3]

egpu never made sense to me you can build yourself a system in the same size format as this egpu that will perform better for less, egpu's are stupid something like i5 12400f+mini itx+4070s will have better performance and will cost less than this mess

[@Lockwood360]

I paired an XGmobile RTX3080 with an ROG ally for the past year until getting my 4070 desktop. It was amazing at 1440 tbh. Expensive but i can't deny the great work asus did with the XGmobile proprietary connection. Almost no performance loss from external bandwidth.

[@zWORMzGaming]

Yeah! Unfortunately TB3/4 enclosures are way too bad. Those other mehods are great though, I'll need to look into a PCIe connection for a future video :)

[@TotallyCreativeNameBtw]

19:55 known for being really consistent until you get 20 enemies or more on your screen, then the cpu performance shits itself!

[@yasserlatreche5594]

I think these kind of mini PCs Shouldn't be high end in the first place, just doesn't seem right for me, they should be low end to med range PCs at most

[@nimkal]

Yeah he's playing 4K with it which is just wierd. Should be 1080P gaming or max 2K.

[@ging3rbreadtiger618]

by the time you purchase the mini pc, GPU ,and the enclosure. You have spent enough money you could build a slightly lower spec full pc with way better performance.

[@conanexilesdevkitbasics2014]

You need to redo this video with two changes. 1. get an m.2 oculink adapter for the mini pc. 2. get a $40 oculink video card adapter that lacks a case.

[@xDraga]

i have suggestion for cs2, i know dust2 is the most popular map and so on but what if you would try deathmatch in more demanding maps like ancient would be interesting to see how hardware would perform in worst case scenarios when it comes to cs2. That would fuck up all the previous data gathered from cs though

[@EinSwitzer]

They did good making the chip convert to bandwidth limits to the usb 4

[@pawsart]

great review, but i don't really see any problems with the games you demoed. i have a 4k screen for work, but i always drop the resolution for gaming to 1920x1080-high settings. i guess i don't have my stats on screen to obsess about while playing.

[@vishalthetechy3894]

Bro, while testing low end gpu's, make sure to include the game Combat Master, it is a very light weight version of cod warzone... It runs on my potato laptop at low settings

[@D2firetech]

Great vid, now try an oculink egpu.

[@adlibconstitution1609]

Dlas quality with fsr3 FG in ghost of Tsushima has literally no input lag. I tested it with my rtx 3060 laptop.

[@chocokurz]

Heyo Kryzzp! I wonder why do you keep Post FX on Normal in GTA V settings. Since that setting actually disables high quality bloom and lens flares alongside the motion blur which you probably dislike and it maybe the reason you keep it on Normal but Very High and Ultra really can be noticeable in terms of image quality and sometimes FPS compared to Normal! I think you should actually endure the horrible sickness blur and do it for the sweet sweet GPU utilization. Thanks!

[@PrjctWRX]

I also have a Core X but I was able to use my 3090 Ti in it which is a 3 slot GPU. So you can probably fit some but not all 3 slot GPU’s in the Core X.

[@leewalker23]

Wow 86 degrees playing red dead redemption. I was thinking for setting up mini pc + e gpu since I'm about to move out of my parents home to an apartment but in this case, I'll just bring my pc around lol

[@monthefinder]

A NEW ZWZ VIDEO!!! nice video btw!:)

[@zWORMzGaming]

Thank you 😊😊

[@LolGamer-nv5qw]

Pretty good like the experimental video

[@hadilhadilmea136]

4:55 bro what's the drop you get here lol I been wait to see it but 😢😢

[@Alone-Alpha-Bravo]

try to buy and test a mini pc from Maibenben model PC-09, it has support for up to RTX 4060ti (and a 500W platinum power supply is installed) :)

[@yeetus59]

I noticed the i9 is thermal throttling like crazy, I wonder if there's any way to make it run cooler? Take off all the covers😂? I feel like with proper cooling games might run smoother.

[@lorenzixdx]

So you played well also thanks to the 200 FPS huh? Nah you're just good on cs:go😂❤ P.S. I was that FortniteLover2016 guy (love from Italy el kryzzpo!)

[@lorenzixdx]

ALSO you played on 4k thats not fair♥♥

[@paramecia6839]

I have a laptop with the same cpu and a rtx 3070ti .It’s a fine laptop but gawd if that cpu runs hot .I use throttlestop to disable the turbo (playing with 2.5ghz) .I win a lot of fps with external monitor but i really need to buy one of those expensive laptop coolers .

[@Soimy]

Yo. Slight advice here, I’ve switched between dx 12 and performance mode on Fortnite, performance mode doesn’t stutter. It’s only dx 12 for some reason. And on dx 12 it is like unplayable for me. With performance there are no stutters at all on 7800 xt. So pls try that in the next vid.

[@ArpanChandraYT]

Build a mod with this with external pice connector and additional cpu cooling with 4090

[@aziggy_22]

I think better tested at a low spec desktop or laptop, to really see the difference

[@Manu_27]

Great video. A question, how do you know when there is bottleneck?

[@Manu_27]

@avigamer7285 Thanks!

[@mhpross1234]

Where is sude by side benchmark video

[@x1oxy_1]

so i own a mini pc and all i can offord is a 4060 for external gpu i want to play fortnite on 1080p with 180fps+ is that possible at all? (i currently get 120 rarely and i get so many fps drops that i can barley get a kill)

[@littlecrack1888]

Good video but man the Temps are ridiculously high that's the problem with mini Pc 21% Cpu usage with 91 degrees Sheesh

[@13bmitchell]

Too bad it didn't have an occulink port. Would have helped with the bandwidth issues and let the GPU really work.

[@EzaneeGires]

could you try something with oculink instead of thunderbolt/usb3/4? you might be surprised

[@zeldar5120]

Think its better to test with a core ultra

[@Noob-dc7jx]

You should test old beast Toshiba Qosmio X300 from 2008

[@CervixKing]

Please include The Finals in your game testes❤

[@HJayZ91]

i feel like with a mini pc with an external gpu, you just have to worry about thermals and CPU bottlenecking

[@alruedrichenopia210]

can you test some of the AMD A series cpu's? like A4, A6, A8 and A10

[@Reverse_Goat]

Use hardware unboxed settings more in rdr2!

[@Soimy]

We need to get the guy who said gg in the comments bro.

[@yuvrajsinghsolanki93815]

connect it via m.2 slot it will be more best

[@hooleesheet9737]

i have a problem with the ghost of tsushima i have rtx 3060 ti and ryzen 5 3600 with 16gb of ram i get about 60 to 80 fps depends on the area it some times dips 50 if there is a lot of people on screen i know that ryzen 5 3600 is the bottleneck but the problem after playing for a while like 2 to 3 hours the fps dips into 20 and 30 in any area while the gpu usage is 100% but the power usage is very low like 120 to 100 watt and i think it should be at 200 watt and i am using high texture if restart the game it get fixed is that a vram problem i think the game has a vram leak i think? and the game is on hard drive is that will make a different ?

[@CptDuck]

Hardrive only affecting your pc processing speed in general (like booting, open app, etc), not gaming focus. But, it could be your hardisk, just upgrade yours to SSD. Don't worry about bottleneck bcuz your CPU is very capable of running 3060 TI, if its desktop, not mini pc or laptop.

[@sikandernaeem9661]

85-90c @ 35-40w loads? How even. I suppose just the metal heatsink with a single laptop fan should do better than this.

[@wintlink]

If you drop the resolution to 1440p or 1080p would the bandwith bottleneck will be less present ?

[@zWORMzGaming]

I tried it in Helldivers 2, FPS are higher but the stuttering due to bandwidth is the same

[@wintlink]

​@@zWORMzGaming arg, I was wondering if it can be a good way to upgrade laptops, I have a decent one, with a 13700Hx and a 4070mobile, but the issue is that the 8Go of vram + the fact that the card is really far from the desktop version made me lower the graphics in a lot of case playing in 2k.

[@spongehop4121]

what is the name of the thing that shows information

[@Mr.Pro-Duct]

Kryzzp plz test Rx 470 4gb or 570 4gb on ghost of Tsushima 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@FRS_Zen]

Love your videos man❤‍🔥

[@EinSwitzer]

Interpretation chipset for usb gpus specifically

[@jonsnow6212]

Why didn;t you try this in 1440p?

[@فنونوعلوموالعاب]

Hi, I subscribed to the channel months ago, and I like your content a lot, I am planning to get a laptop that has rtx 2050, so can you test the 2050 in games ?

[@zWORMzGaming]

Hi! Thank you very much! I wouldn't, save a bit more and get a 3050 laptop instead. It'll be worth it! I actually am very curious about testing the 2050, but everywhere I look here in Portugal, laptops with that GPU are super overpriced, like 900€+ which is ridiculous... So I can't test it, at least for now!

[@فنونوعلوموالعاب]

@zWORMzGaming thanks for replying super fast, I want you then to test gtx 980 ti in ghost of Tsushima only if you can , I am really curious about how it performs in this game

[@rasporilac]

@@فنونوعلوموالعاب I have that video 😅

[@apostolos8734]

@@فنونوعلوموالعابdo what he says man, wait and save for at least at 3050, don’t spend all that money on a 2050 only to find you can’t play any of the latest games.

[@BLKBRDSR71]

The CPU: @ 96c may I be excused from the chat? The GPU: Only when I say so.

[@RobloxianX]

1. Not until Thunderbolt 5 2. Not until better thermals = never

[@lolohasan6424]

I have 7950X3D 4070ti 64GB 6000Mhz ddr5. I play all games on 4K, but my all games are stuttering. What is the problem of my high end pc?

[@MrEnderMate]

kryzzp we need more cs2 benchmarks!

[@Muhanad_eid]

the best tester ever

[@JokaGaming2K10]

Stutternite is back!

[@Raderade1-pt3om]

Please do Intel i3 3rd gen with HD 4000 graphics laptop

[@kurnma3776]

should cook bacon nicely with that 96C cpu...

[@danicvc]

sorry the dumb question but the 4070 ti super is for 4k gaming?

[@davidepaciarotti5109]

Yes is quite good, obviously is not for 4k max setting but medium setting or high depend on the game, is based even at what you want to play most. In general is a 4k Mid range gpu for me.

[@imreszegedi3601]

can you do this on 1080p?

[@KaiBlumberg]

Can you test one time Lords of the fallen (2023) which is an darksouls like

[@nicola783]

30% with 90ª???????????????????????????

[@TheArchitectfella]

The question is can u attach that mini PC on a laptop and play on the same laptop ?

[@zayy7666]

No

[@IPowder4105]

Why dont they make amd mini PCs They're more efficient and perform better at low power

[@marcdionnelcasalta2214]

is this applicable with intel arc gpu's?

[@cheetos3269]

Next up, we need a 360mm external cooler.

[@Rayu25Demon]

you need to use PCIE gen 4 dock, x4 gen 3 at 4k ? really? mini PC with egpu are for 1080p

[@h.i.t.m.a.n_47_911]

next time try it in the pcie by 4 m.2 or wifi and put some fans facing it ,TAKE THE JUICE OUT OF IT

[@MisterPikol]

do there exist any celeron mini pc's with usb 4 ? like, would be super interesting to see gpu paired with like a N100 or N305

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

Is it 4 core 8 thread cpu ? Any cpu below that config is insufficient for gaming

[@MisterPikol]

@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 n100 is 4 core. And 4 cores can still game, but they will heavily bottleneck.

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

@@MisterPikol is it have 8 thread? 8 thread is bare minimum for gaming even for modern cpu architecture.

[@MisterPikol]

@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 just 4 cores, no extra threads. Its a celeron class ultra low power cpu, so thats why I was curious about pairing an egpu to it. The N305 is 8 cores, however. You can still game on 4 cores, simple games, ps4 era games like elden rings, indies etc

[@mrbobgamingmemes9558]

@@MisterPikol how much is the turboboost ?

[@sahilrawat3001]

first the mini pc then rtx 4070 and then the external gpu thingy. so much budget unfriendly.🥵

[@SpencerEdwards-mq2sh]

MORE EGPU CONTENT! :)

[@tj3495]

What price would you recommend buying the 4070 ti super at Kryzzp?

[@zWORMzGaming]

700-750 would be good for this card

[@tj3495]

@@zWORMzGaming thanks!

[@Antonio-rg1cy]

its so bad to be on 3.0? :D I have 5800x3d and 7900xtx on B450-TUF pro gaming MB :D