Should You play Eve Online in 2024?

[@bartondisplay]

To me, the main thing people should know about this game are two things: 1) It is a sandbox game, it is not like your average MMO. You have to make your own fun, set goals, seek out content. 2) Everything in the game is player driven. Community is key. And of course the golden rule: Never fly what you cannot afford to lose.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I’m currently flying a worm with the hopes of farming some T1s but I’m afraid to lose it so I’ve only done T0s in it so far. haha

[@mellogo1d191]

Get out in some T1’s bro ..the worm van handle them just fine

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@mellogo1d191 did one last night. Was nervous but yeah it went just fine. Made like 15 million too which was nice

[@davidbrenner951]

Me and 2 friends have moved up to t3 abyss using 2 retributions and a deacon for remote armor repair. Very fun.. hoping to get to t5-t6 eventually. Taking our time though, need some skills still to get the dps up. It's a very long term game

[@Pixl8dwhmsy]

My fear is that it will fail at some point/ there won't be any support or community eventually. which makes me not want to invest the time. it is being advertised to me constantly as I am a Mac user. This was the most concise best review I have seen by far. You make great points, and ones that further cement the "unfun" factor for me as a gamer. This game has as much appeal as a dungeons and dragons game with state prison inmates (it actually happens, i speak from personal knowledge).

[@Pixelest001]

Man 10/10 review better than 99%of mmo reviewers you actually played that game and learned a decent amount. Instead of giving up the second you found any frustration. Or saw that it wasn’t exactly like wow

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Yeah I watched a few reviews before I got started and most of them barely got out of the tutorial. Kinda frustrating

[@karlheilmann9172]

@@CapnCrunchESO a good first step to this game is picking one facet that you want to learn, look at videos on it, do missions that teach it and even reach out and talk to someone in game who would be willing to explain some of the tricks of the trade. Easy and cheap first steps are things like mining (especially when considering the skills needed to do these tasks - lower time requirement).

[@GraeOne_]

i used to live in new eden. ceo of a 80+ pilot corp doing industrial stuff in null sec and joining big fleets fighting enemy corps and allis. eve is still one of my all time favs.

[@stelios9241]

Its almost hard to rate it as a game among other games. It kind of doesent make sense to try.

[@chrisbennett1037]

I loved iot till the BIG fights just became a total lag fest where 1 second your flying around... the next second youre dead and you literally have no idea how or why.. you never saw it happen because the game would lag so badly...they tried to fix it a little back.. but it really didnt..

[@Mutton213]

200 hours and only just scratched the surface..... I've been playing for 20 YEARS and feel like I've only just scratched the surface..... Great game if you can stick with it. The secret is to find a group to join, once you do that then everything opens up.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

This is why I laughed when peon reviewed the game, didn’t make it though the tutorial and said it wasn’t for him

[@illuminated2494]

whats the best way to find a group?

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@illuminated2494 go to one of the major trade hubs and just ask if anyone is willing to group with a new player in chat :)

[@illuminated2494]

@@CapnCrunchESO thx!

[@thiamarcosthiamarcos8936]

You played just 200 hours in 20 years? 😂

[@MarkDavies10]

Having never played the game before I found this is really helpful, thank you.

[@CMDR_Verm]

One thing I feel you glossed over is how you are not safe anywhere in space. The space police will destroy other players ships if they attack you for no reason but they may not arrive in time to save your ship. So, by all means, chill out mining in high-security space but never, ever presume you are safe. There is a large percentage of players who take great fun from destroying mining ships. And please don't watch Netflix whilst mining, you are a sitting duck. The example I've used applies to whatever you are doing in Eve, you are NEVER safe. That's what makes the game so intense. Great video nevertheless, I wish you luck o7.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

"Large percentage" is a huge over statement. Number of highsec gankers in eve are less than 5% of the total eve population.

[@CMDR_Verm]

@@umadbroimatroll7918 OK, OK, perhaps I exaggerated but hopefully I've made the point about the harshness of Eve.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

​@@CMDR_Verm mining permits are 50% off. new players only! 😂

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Good to know, I assumed you were safe in 1.0 space haha oops good thing I learned from this comment instead of losing a mining ship

[@Kuat0GWA]

Totally agree. I was a wormhole miner for 3 years. It was the most paranoid, fun time of my life.

[@Tepnox]

Thx for the review. I played Eve somewhat hardcore multi-boxing 10 years ago (wormhole business, nullsec warfare) and quitted to sort out my life. Those were some good times. Kind of shocked the UI did not progress at all. More fancy environment graphics for sure but it still looks like an excel sheet with billions of tiny sub menus.😅

[@karlheilmann9172]

Why change what is so good to begin with? One thing that always annoys me is Devs changing my keys on my phone app from square edged to rounded, then back then smaller, then green.... It's a phone. Knock it off! LOL

[@philip_sechler]

I'm thinking about coming back. I got busy last October after playing for about 6 months. I found the best way to make casual friends was to join mining groups. Eventually you'll find cool folks that are all hanging out chatting about news, world events, movies and tv, whatever. Meanwhile you can mine like madman because good groups will almost always have some defense for the group. I joined a corp at one point but really didn't like to be bugged by people to get more involved. If you're a hard working adult then it's a tricky game because of how much time you'll spend without realizing it. Especially planning ship fits and future fits. I really enjoy it but sheeez it's involved.

[@thegreatfacthunt771]

if you do you would be welcome to join my corp. No interaction needed but there is a low tax rate. I'll throw you some hulls to get you roling. corp is same name as my YT username

[@rawcanuck662]

So true...my wife always told everyone I had a mistress - Eve. Spent countless hours in it. I have so many ships and ISK it is ridiculous. Should really go back on and give it away at least.

[@BlueBaron3339]

🤔 A thoughtful, intelligent, well-reasoned, ego-free, open-minded game review on KZbin. Not sure how to take that Cap. 😉 Outstanding video, sir! Me, it's been ages since I played but I like what they've done with the place. Yet I see that Jita remains the central trade hub. Loved Eve. It's a true MMO. But I'm a classic Bartle-type socializer and when my friends left... Unlike you I don't like spending hours relaxing on my own in a game world. But that's just me. Yet I am so burned out on ESO...all of us have a lifecycle in any game though. No MMO is really *bad.*

[@CapnCrunchESO]

That’s a really nice thing to say! Thank you for the kind comment :)

[@redoneredone7640]

I played the game for about 5 or 6 months a few years ago but gave up because I didn't meet anyone to play with and I just continuously got killed and killed and killed and didn't have enough income to make up for the lost ships. I've started thinking about Eve again and this video was pretty helpful. Several of the things I remember but I never did finish alot of the things you dug into so maybe it's worth an Alpha trial to see if renewing all my Omega skills will be worth while. GREAT review! Thanks for playing it and giving honest and accurate feedback.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

If you still looking for a group, mail Audeles Talased, our corp TLSAT will take you in 😊

[@Franka.1966]

Back in 2013 I spent 2 hours per day mining with Retrievers and Procurers for the first 6 months, and only then I was able to fit a Brick-Orca + maxed out drones for further business, and a Vexor to get back at gankers. The game begins to start after 6 months... or even later 😏

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

@@Franka.1966 man, that's a way to do it. But very slow. You could have had an orca within like a week or so by joining a group, learning how to make isk in nullsec exploration and combat sites, nullsec mining when you feel lazy. New players can be in nullsec too, and its honestly safer to mine there instead of highsec lol

[@porterwake3898]

My head hurts just looking at the UI.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

It’s a bit overwhelming at first but actually it’s fairly simple

[@IIIgreendeadIII]

As a person that plays eve 3 years now, i really like ur video. U explaint a ton of things and gave a guideline which even experienced eve players and content creators fail to do so in a understandable way for not eve players. Can definetly recommend joining a (good) corp tho. Also to the t2 part/omega part t2 isnt always better but more specialised ^^

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Appreciate that! And the funny thing is I only put this review out a few days ago and I’ve already learned so much more! I’ll have to make a follow up video at some point.

[@IIIgreendeadIII]

@@CapnCrunchESO also If Ur looking for a Corp i can recommend knock knock -- NS newbies groups of init. Tons of content but also Lot of Options to explore things urself

[@kristen-johnshearman2696]

From someone who has a 55mil sp char from 2007 and wanting to get back into it this is a top video!

[@TheLuxenber]

I only started feeling like not a noob, after about 3 years playing this game. Its the best game ever!!!

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I’m really enjoying it too, are you playing with friends or a corp or what?

[@Garresh1]

I've played since 2009 and wanted to add context to 2 of the cash shop things. 1. For most of the game's life, you couldn't buy skill points at all. The in game timer to train skills was originally designed *without* microtransactions in mind. The reason for this is that it forced players to specialize to some extent. You can't do everything, and are forced to work with other players in one way or another. You can still play solo, but you still have to buy things from other players. 2. The ability to purchase in game money with IRL money was actually originally introduced to combat real money trading, and to somewhat equalize the advantage of having multiple accounts. As an example, if you're really good at the game and make tons of money, you're able to buy plex from another player, which then pays for your subscription. Eve literally allows you to pay for the monthly fee with in game money, by letting someone else pay it for you(in exchange for in game money). So while it seems initially pay to win(and it kind of is), it actually goes the other way where people who are good at the game can get multiple accounts for free. Also people who spend IRL money to buy expensive ships usually lose them in a spectacular fashion, since they "jumped ahead" of the usual progression. Basically the monetization stuff is weirdly fair, and not at all pay to win.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Skill trading has been in the game since almost the start. But the way to do it before was character transfers from the character bazaar. Made my first 10b from the bazaar.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I also forgot to mention that even though you can buy ISK for real money you can also pay for your subscription by selling ISK. Which is great

[@mikspurins1455]

@@CapnCrunchESO This is the way I play. 100mil/d is enough profit to fund not just Omega, but also some pew-pew shenanigans :P

[@thorveim1174]

most games: i played 200 hours, I did everything there was to do, hell even played the whole game several times! i completely mastered this game eve online: I feel like 200 hours is a good starting point also would disagree that "all of the good ships are locked behind omega": T2 ships tend to not really be better, instead often being very specialized ships with a single, specific role in mind; for just going "basic ship but stronger", the nafy/fleet issue ships and pirate ships are a safer bet, and those can be used without omega (though i'd advise against it as considering their price tag, you will often want T2 modules on them, ESPECIALLY guns, most of which alpha players cant access)

[@goldeneagle256]

never a bad time to start play eve. its a great social game, and no other games out there gives you the kind of adrenaline rushes you get in this one when you get into pvp and actually risk loosing stuff. you can do alot of PVE content, but it is all based around PVP, witch is the main drive for the game.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I was actually telling this same thing to a friend. Wormhole space is like a constant adrenaline rush from paranoia of being ganked.

[@goldeneagle256]

@@CapnCrunchESO im mainly living out in null sec, but wouldent mind a chance one day to get more into the wh pvp life

[@babbaderbozz]

Eve is a terrible game and you should not play it. Why? 1. outdated mechanics 2. Terrible Server tick 3. Grinding isk takes way to long and is worse than working irl 4. Metal involves like 5 ships, if you skilled anything else you wont be able to play properly 5. Skillsystem is straight up bullshit, takes way to long to do anything worthwhile 6. Did I mention that pvp is terrible? Think about playing a game with atleast 2000ms, that's the eve experience I could go on about multiboxing being encouraged (holy fking shit) local existing, space to big for no reason etc.

[@goldeneagle256]

@@babbaderbozz sry this post just tell me you dont know anything at all about EVE online. yes, the servers can be bit buggy sometimes, but the pvp system and the different ships in the game are extreamly well balanced. the ping only makes bit of a difference in grab face of the fight, meaning the start. anything else are just about using your modules properly witch dont require any sort of good ping at all. yes, getting skills to do anything for sure takes a long time, but even a 1 month old pilot in a t1 ship can turn the tide of a battle, and someone in a 30 mill t1 cruiser can easily take down someone in a 1.5 bill t3 cruiser. when it comes to pvp, i only have a select few ships i use, and thats how it should be done. really learn the ship you can fly, before starting getting into anything else. for any cruiser pvp i use a pilgrim or a curse in 90% of the fights, and a legion in the rest. for killing frigates i use my pacifier 95% of the time, and an assult frigate in the rest. have a select few other types of ships i use in some rare occasions aswell, but my ooint is that you dont need 100 mill SP in order to be an efficient pvp pilot and have funn with it. infact we have a guy in the corp that have over 300 mill SP and can fly more or less all ships in the game with almost perfect skills, but he is a clueless moron that cant kill anything on his own. regarding making isk, you have a bunch of people sitting in ventures in high sec mining veldspar. ofc it takes long time to earn isk. is all about what you make out of it, and how risk you willing to take, and where you live. im running 3 accounts, and if i sitt where i live out in NS and do merxocit mining, i make around 550 mill an hour, witch im quite happy with. you can also run t6 abyssal sites making you 500 mill an hour on 1 toon, but that for most part require a 5-6 bill gila and an experienced pilot, and you loose your ship if you mess up. carrier ratting in NS should make you around 200 mill an hour on a single toon, and if you into production theres ways to make you quite good isk thats kinda passive and aint require you to even be online for most parts

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@babbaderbozz I agree with number 5, I’ve got over a year of skills training. Other than that though I’m having fun

[@Korin-Darius]

You did a really good job reviewing EvE! As a long time player myself I appreciate and support this content.

[@TheCynysterMind]

I have been playing for 2 years now... I played for an entire year before going to Nulsec... If your goal is to go into Nulsec I would suggest investing in combat skills first. I went into mining right off and branched out from there.... and yes just as everyone says Do not fly anything you cannot afford to lose.... better yet... do like me and make 10 of everything so losing one ship is more of an annoyance rather than a heart attack

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Great advice! I’ve lost a few ships in wormhole space to other players and since have been focusing on making sure I have the fastest align time possible so I can get out of there quick as soon as I pick up someone on d scan

[@IIIgreendeadIII]

​@@CapnCrunchESOalso If u are looking to get into NS These days a Lot of groups have newbie friendly Corps with them Init for example has knock knock. (Personal recommendation but im biased there lol)

[@Franka.1966]

I never fitted my mining barges... they were throw-away items.

[@rawcanuck662]

@@Franka.1966 Man, I have a Navy Scorpion worth billions I use for missions and every now and then I worry about being ganked in the missions. I've had pirates come in and steal loot at times but no way I will engage them. That is what they want.

[@konpenv2]

Great video. You hit the nail on the head with the ganking story. What would normally frustrate me is actually funny in this game, just because of the great community. Keep it up, dude.

[@francescob.3019]

ive played a fair bit of eve since 2006, but now 20$ a month is too much. it would make sense if I could spend quite a bit of time in the game, but i don’t think i can. This relatively expensive price keeps only the hardcore players in the game, which i believe is one of the main issues with the game itself.

[@iliyanshmilev]

I've been playing it for over 15 years and I haven't found anything better so far.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Hmmm maybe I should pick your brain about how to avoid burnout and make a little video about it.

[@pauladams2950]

Thank you for this video and yes I felt lost too after the intro mission! However I have stuck with it and started to get into it. It really does have a steep learning curve which leaves you to fend for yourself, probably will try the enforcer as that battleship looks sweet :)

[@arzireece]

Been playing for 11 years now. This game just scratches an itch that I can’t get anywhere else.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I had dreams about Eve online last night. I think I’ve been playing too much haha 😂

[@nathanielzito2716]

I fell bad for you that you have to play games like this to make friends. I thought this might be a fun game to play on my computer but when I learned its just anther stupid MMO I know this games just going to be boring since it only fun with other people. I don't play video games to play with other people. solo video games are the only games worth playing

[@CCCPWarHammer]

i have been playing this game for YEARS as a 100% solo player... i could fly a capital ship if ihad a fleet and POB....but i have fun sometimes just taking a big ole nyx out and go site hunting..... and sometimes just have fun in my widow, cloak, find players to follow and just watching them LOL ... i like eve

[@ВиталийОвчаренко-и1н]

Yes, it is recommended to play Eve Online in 2024. Despite potential issues like the learning curve and occasional boredom, the game still offers an immersive space exploration experience with regular events and upcoming expansions. The game's virtual economy, player-driven decisions, and the addition of new content like the Eve Vanguard first-person shooter module make it a worthwhile choice for players interested in a complex and rewarding gaming experience.

[@badgerknight5263]

this wasnt the most exciting, informative or structured video ever but honestly i just really liked listening to you talk about this. it didnt give me a great idea about what the game really offers but it was just a nice pleasant thing to watch, and i loved the little cloaking wormhole police story. very enjoyable video thank you

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I appreciate that, I just kinda ramble in my monotone voice, works well if you’re having trouble sleeping just put one of my videos on in the background

[@badgerknight5263]

@@CapnCrunchESO it really does, youre very comfortable to listen to, and it DID make me install eve so mission completed!

[@isaacerickson2383]

Great intro to the game! If i hadn't started a decade ago, this video would inspire me

[@IndyV72]

I tried for over 12 hours just to play the intro levels and I got stuck on 3/5 for the first mission. Having to get something with probes. The game I found didn't explain it well at all and like I said, I tried for close to 12 hours on that one mission. The learning curve felt too steep and lacked any help. I went through the help system and found out how to launch the probe, launched all 8 at once and still didn't do a thing. Then I was left with no probes, couldn't complete the mission, couldn't get the probes back, etc. Just writing all of this out I feel the anger and frustration that I was having with the game. I really, really wanted to give it a chance, it looks stunning, but if I couldn't complete even the basic beginner's quest, what would be the point?

[@the_dripgoku]

The probe tutorial fucking sucks, it's not your fault

[@hereticalcoffee]

Deputy Heretical Coffee here, I would like to thank you for your cooperation when you were arrested sir. Just remember, Might Makes Right and the WHPD is here to protect sacred wormhole space. Service Guarantees Salt

[@keto-rl2ce]

🤣

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Oh man I’m so bummed I lost the footage :( I’ll likely be there though this Sunday to fight crime. Car ram rod, over and out.

[@TheBamaChad-W4CHD]

I've been playing Eve since its launch. Yes, I am that old! Granted I've taken years off from playing regularly. Eve is a game you are either going to live or hate. It's not a difficult game to just play. You can care bear around for decades if you feel like it. You can run a massive evil empire that is constantly at war. You can mine one particular type of asteroid for 5 years and do nothing else. You can fight only other players. You can fight only npc players. Eve truly is a sandbox more than any game I have ever played. I have always told people to just download the game and try it. It made it much easier when the f2p option rolled out.

[@keto-rl2ce]

Made a character 9 months ago, then moved so hadn’t gone back. I need to start fr scratch & learn it. Thanks for great review!

[@CapnCrunchESO]

The community was very helpful in helping me find my way. I forgot to mention that in the video. They have a new players chat you can ask questions and people are super helpful. Have fun and thanks for the comment!

[@esenterre]

You probably need a good corporation, one that you're comfortable with. That makes all the difference

[@titianobsidian6549]

Nice response to the game brought back a few memories and nightmares. The first few years are the most fun, not played for a decade, don't think I could take going back. My biggest issues was you had to pay to grind before you could start to play. The small pvp stuff was fun with friends but then you had to grind to be able to do that unless you wanted to pour money into the game. The majority of pvp ended up with gate camping which was boring like hanging around at street corners waiting for a fight, the large fleet battles were the closest I've felt to being in the borg... but then there was some really fun small fleet fights.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Faction warfare is full of small and medium scale fights, as well as making isk while doing pvp. Very little time gate camping too, if you want back in to try again go for it!

[@liamcore7203]

The only game I have played where 2 year old players are still thought of as noobs lol. In seriousness, the potentials of the game and how to move toward it is my enjoyment. Creating, developing and implementing a plan, a program, is part of the fascination of the game. Eve is not a marathon, its a series of them.

[@Aethelhald]

Good review. I came back to EVE a month ago after a 5-ish year break. Have been playing on and off since around 2009. Worth playing in 2024? Absolutely. You'll never play another game like EVE. It's completely unique. There's just nothing else like it.

[@seniorslaphead8336]

I played Eve for sixteen years, never subbing for more than a month because I was always about to leave. Former dev CCP Soundwave used to boast that "no-one leaves Eve" but it is possible. I'm two years clean... pray for me.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@seniorslaphead8336 stay strong my friend

[@Dvarable]

may i reccomend that any of you newbro's thinking about trying or just getting startet: variety is everything, i enjoy mining while shit talking on comms with my friends. exploration are great to make isk and see the game doing so. null can be fun (i'm personally burned out from null but don't let that stop you!) doing the mega several thousands strong fleets. do consider getting into faction warfare, and early! it's small gang, and it's easy and cheap to get into as you can do it in frigates and destroyers. as always however, remember: In space, no one can hear your scream. Find a corp! find friends in the game, otherwise it aint gonna be fun, just as with any other mmo :D

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I didn’t realize you can do PvP in lower tier ships?

[@mikspurins1455]

@@CapnCrunchESO You can do PVP in 1d old toons in t1 frigs - easy. Doesn't guarantee results, but frigate PVP is one of the better (although harder) ways to actually learn PVP. Solo might be tough on a newbro, but in a small gang - t1 frigs get real scary real fast...

[@fredrikmagnusson6469]

I had a friend in College that loves this. This was 15 years ago.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Maybe he can hook you up with some good starter ships?

[@fredrikmagnusson6469]

@@CapnCrunchESO We both are dad's nowadays with limited time to play ;) I usually play some star citizen sporadically. But im sure he'd give a long speech about his adventures!

[@tf8852]

Playing this game since 2014. I used to be a miner, then switched to mission runner, then nullsec player, and eventually became a WH player. You can generate 3-4 billion ISK within 1-2 hours in wh. However, people still need to find a good way to spend the money. What is it? Yes, it's PvP. All activities eventually turn into PvP. EVE is fun, especially when built around PvP. Spending too much time in PvE without engaging in PvP may lead to losing enthusiasm for the game.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I’m saving up my ISK to maybe setup a moon mining operation. But I do look forward to PvP. Fleet battles sound amazing!

[@mikspurins1455]

@@CapnCrunchESO Fleet battles are... something for sure. Problem is, you're basically in the passenger seat, with FC being the driver. You have little control of where things are going, making it very bad environment for actually learning PVP. They also come in different varieties - super boring with nothing happening, super nice with you getting a ton of kills, supper stressful when your side is taking a beating, or - my favorite as Logi - super fast with you getting volleyed off the field before anyone else... Other than that - the visuals can be breathtaking. If your PC can handle them, ofc... As for setting up a moon op... Yeah, maybe you want to join a moon owning Corp temporarily to learn more about what it takes to own/operate a moon rig... That stuff isn't for everyone, and definitely ill suited for a Solo player. For a small group of friends however - it can be a very nice medium term goal.

[@rusticza1355]

Great review! Such a rewarding game but requires some time to understand the overall picture

[@derrekdillard9047]

I just started playing a couple days ago and have around 20 hours already. I’m so glad I got into it as I tried some months ago and couldn’t.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I put off playing it for years because I was intimidated. But I’m glad I finally gave it a try

[@shalalameowmeow3601]

been playing this on and off since 2005ish and I just cant stay away. its a timesink tho and its hard to find time for this and once your obsessed its hard to stop and find time for anything else. trying to get back into it again now.

[@Agent_Clark]

Good overview but i feel it doesn't tell people what eve actually is.

[@Destrock]

This is a very good video. You took the time to explain the game properly to people who never played it like myself. Now that I know this game is not free to play but demo to play except if we pay 20$ per month, i won't try it, but I still have questions anyway and the answer could help others wondering the same : 1. What happen when we die ? In the past, I heard we were losing our ship in this game but now, I heard you say you only lost credits when these 30 PKers got you after a gate. And I also heard it was taking forever to reach a destination. What do you lose when you die ? Is it just a little sum of money and you don't care or do you also lose many hours of gameplay ? 2. How often do you get PKed ? Is the community toxic ? It's an old game, many people are high lv. In general, do they help newbies or they just have fun killing them all ? 3. Almost the same as 2. : is this noob friendly ? Can a newbie find a guild or do they recruit only people with a ship high lv enough ? And do they actually help their newbies or ignore them ? 4. Has the game enough players to be enjoyable ? It's a very big universe. Do you cross real players on a VERY regular basis, like at least one every 5 min ? 5. I tried this game a couple years ago and I was stuck in the tutorial. I was doing what the tutorial was asking me to do but due to a bug, it wasn't working, so I uninstalled it. Have they change the tutorial ? You probably don't know the answer, but we never know... If you finished the tutorial, I guess they fixed it... Have you heard from other players they were unable to finish it ?

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

1. When you die your ship blows up and you get insurance payout in isk to replace some of it but it qpnt cover the whole loss, half of the stuff you die with drops as pvp loot. 2. Pvp is as often as you want, if you stay in highsec and dont go to lowsec, nullsec or wormholes you may never even see pvp. And yes most veteran players will help newbies and teach them. 3. There are hundreds of new player groups and some very big ones dedicated to only teaching people how to play and learn the game. 4. Yes there is lots of players, almost every single one of the 7000 systems in the game will have players in it, and you can see them with the local channel that shows who is in system. 5. Yss the tutorial is different and actually teaches you much better, I'm not sure when you played but the tutorial has changed about 3 or 4 times since I have started. On top of that there is also now called the AIR career program that is like a tutorial that continues after the tutorial. Also players dont have a level really, you train levels on skills that allow you to fly certain ships, but you don't want to fly the best of the best because you will eventually lose the ship. 20 year old players still fly ships that 5 day old characters fly because they are more cost effective for pvp if you end up losing. Give the game a chance again because it is very much free to play, everything alphas can do is quite a bit and if joining a group can do end game content as a free account once you train enough skills and learn enough knowledge of the game.

[@Destrock]

@@umadbroimatroll7918 Hi ok, and does the game has a kernel-level anti-cheat or is it server-side ?

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

@@Destrock it's just server side and basic client side anti cheat I'm pretty sure. 99% of calculating and math is all done by the server so I dont think other than finding bugs to exploit there have ever been cheaters in eve.

[@komivalentine3067]

1: You loose your ship and everything inside. Some ships are special and it hurts loosing them, others are like ammunition so most people see it as loosing money if they loose ships ;) 2: ppl will likely shoot you if they can and know they can kill you. And as a new player you are a good target for people. I myself never kill new players. I just scram them, tell them some weird story why it's dangerous in this system and let them go. Sometimes I add a little 1million ISK fee as well for my fuel and time expenses. But a lot of people will just blow you up especially people that usually dont engage in pvp because it's too dangerous might see this as a chance to cope :P 3: most corporations are always looking for new players and are very helpful. Ofc some corps are just very inactive or scams so be a bit careful who you join ;) 4: In dense areas like highsec + faction war lowsec there are always a lot of ships flying around... But youn can find very empty regions of space as well most likely in nullsec where you can be for hours without seeing another ship :P 5: weird.

[@fibthejib]

About being safe in high sec, your best bet is to mine in systems with a 0.8 or above, concord reaction time is delayed relative to the high sec number which allows groups of players to use cheap ships to kill you even if they get destroyed themselves.

[@jonathanstark9147]

As a father with rpg and board game groups, as well as tons of varied creative interests, i would just never be able to invest the time. If i cant pick it up and put it down easily, getting meaningful gaming experiences out of a two to three hour session, then it is not the game for me.

[@MrFishstxx]

Great video, Ive been wanting to try this game for so long but I haven't because of how daunting it seems to get into. I might just give it a go, and of course ill use your referral link. I subbed to the channel and would love another review for this game later on.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I was actually in the same boat. You keep hearing it’s a spreadsheet simulator or whatever and it makes it sound intimidating. But really it’s not. Have fun!

[@MrFishstxx]

@@CapnCrunchESOThanks! I'm in the tutorial now haha

[@mellogo1d191]

There’s absolutely nothing to be intimidated about in this game…just give it a try, jump into wormholes and abyssals and just enjoy it..!

[@MrFishstxx]

@@mellogo1d191Thanks for the reply, im starting to learn the ropes. Ive been doing the agent missions at my home station which has really been helping me learn the game. I was also mining in .4 space when I got attacked, but I managed to make it out alive lol. This is day 3 for me and Im really enjoying it.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@mellogo1d191 I have gear fear like I had in escape from Tarkov, my expensive ships just sit in the hangar cause I’m afraid to lose them haha

[@Jojilikesgames]

One time I was hauling some pretty important corp stuff in a Charon through lowsec (built different) and I actually got held up by a single dude who disabled my warp.He had me dead to rights, like it was gonna take a while to kill me bc the charon is massive, but still lol. He tried extorting me out of 400 million ISK (cargo was worth 3 bil) but I just said how it's gonna come out of my pay, and I'm just trying to make it through, and after some begging and a warning; he let me go. I then sent him a message letting him know it was all bs and next time he shouldn't let them go if he hopes to turn a profit. He was so pissed he tried to put a bounty on me. it's stuff like that that keeps me playing the game.

[@inediblemangoes7797]

This was jam packed of info. Concise and informative. Have you continued playing?

[@stelios9241]

great review. Talking about end game in eve is almost pointless. Ive seen ppl, including myself, starting with the basic ships and advancing to the more advanced ships and then walking back to using more basic ships and tools again. In my case it happened when I started discovering the mind games aspect of EVE. Creative thinking in this game is hgihly rewarding.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Been playing 10 years but I still use t1 ships mostly for pvp, not only because it's cheaper but because they are just as fun to fly in faction warfare atleast and in same ways more rewarding when you get a kill of a faction ship or t2. XL ancil shield booster stabber is a GOAT.

[@mitcharbiter3371]

Looks stunning but the fact hat there is no first person view is a deal breaker for me.

[@5crufft3ch95]

Thank you very much for the very informative video! I've been kinda interested in the game for a while but it's hard for me to get into those kinds of games without others to play with. Though I might have a little group now with some being interested.. possibly! I will have to see. But again, thank you for posting this video. It helped me decide whether I should bring this to the groups attention or not. Happy flying out there, and keep yourself out of trouble xD don't want the "authorities" adding to those long list of "charges" you already got!

[@CapnCrunchESO]

If you need someone to play with let me know. I don’t have a lot of time but I can at least get you hooked up with my corp

[@5crufft3ch95]

@@CapnCrunchESO That sounds awesome dude and would appreciate the invite! My pilots name is Dave Hutta

[@nope.nope.3704]

You can buy plex using isk on the market 500 plex is omega and it costs ~2.5bil isk (so 2.5bil isk ~= 500 plex = 20$ = omega for 1 month) I have been playing for almost 1.5k hours now and my personal advice is to find a corp you’ll like. For me, this is the biggest reason to keep playing

[@CapnCrunchESO]

My new goal is to be able to afford a refinery for moon mining

[@nope.nope.3704]

@@CapnCrunchESO you mean like athanor? Moon mining only gives you good profit in some lowsec/nullsec regions(bc moon ore differs between regions), and all the good moons are already taken by big alliances for their own profit. Also, to make good profit you really need t2 rigs on station (which usually cost a fortune) and a big mining fleet with prospect/orca to be able to mine all the ore in time. So, good luck.

[@mikspurins1455]

@@nope.nope.3704 I agree that aiming to own a Moon is a bit of a overreach. Might work as a long term goal, not nearly something you should expect to reach short-term. I believe it would be best to break down the overall goal in multiple smaller steps - the last of which should be affordability. Firstly - finding a place for your rig. Namely, a system and moon with the safety/ore you're after. Owning just any old moon is rather... pointless. Secondly - learning all there is about structure protection. How war-decks work, how fueling/operating the structure itself happens... There's plenty of stuff to learn/achieve before actually anchoring the structure, and going through everything in order is very helpful. Maybe it deters you from making the investment upon you realizing the trouble it involves. Maybe on the contrary - it enforces your wish, and makes you learn much more of the game to make your dreams true. Either outcome is fine, as long as you're fully aware what the final result involves.

[@refineme]

I solo live in low sec. Mining and huffing gas. I compress it all with a small operation and haul it all to go sec to sell. I hunt down hi value rats with a Tengu or Loki in low sec belts (50 to 100+million per rat). Covert ops cloak is very overpowered once you have an operation set up in a quiet dead end low sec system.

[@Taz6688]

In Eve you can fly a ship, but to properly fly that ship it will take another 6 - 8 months to fully train the supporting skills, it's a long and skill intensive game, since they added Free to Play they have expanded the skill point buying options, long time back they said that would never happen, buying skill points. Now it's catering to the Fortnite/Steam/GTA crowd, if your wallet is big enough you can fly capital ships in little over a day, you have no idea how they work and what to do with them, but as long as you're paying to play they don't care, the sound and graphics have always been excellent, they have improved but were always the best. Played since 2004 took a few breaks.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Yeah I ran into that today actually, I spent like a week training the skills to use the modulated mining lasers, equipped them, bought the modulation crystals and then realized I need to train for another week to be able to use the crystals :(

[@jessicalee5487]

I am here because I saw an ad for this game and the MMO aspect is really awesome. After watching your video I don't think I will be able to comprehend how to play the game with so many words. Very great review though!

[@esenterre]

Real good video! I like your style. Hope you'll make more Eve content! Most of Eve KZbinrs talk for hours to say not so much. You cover lots of stuff, but it was concise. Great job!

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Thank you for the kind words, I also hate watching KZbin videos where people go on about nothing lol. I refuse to do that.

[@Ilandria.]

I've been on the fence about getting into Eve for so long... I started once about 10 years ago but lost interest after 50 hours or so because I couldn't figure out what to do without just getting killed immediately, and I couldn't find anyone in game to learn from that was willing to play with a new player. Maybe I should give it another shot. The impression I got back then was that the community was not welcoming to new players at all. Things definitely could have changed though.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Yeah it’s a bit confusing on what you’re supposed to be doing at first. They added that career program thing in the menu to help with that. Try joining a corp with people willing to help new players it’s been a game changer for me. Literally

[@Ilandria.]

@@CapnCrunchESO Yeah a lot in your video didn't exist when I first tried the game, it definitely seems more inviting now. I'll poke some of my space/sci-fi nerd friends and see if anyone else may be interested in giving it a shot. Thank you for the detailed and level-headed impressions about the game!

[@burtturdison4445]

If only the subscription prices weren't this insanely high.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

It's free if you make enough isk, very easily done at endgame. And possible for day 1 accounts, but reality a new player would need to play for a while as a free account to learn how to play properly before doing so.

[@fani5000]

Why is Star Citizen a thing? EVE has been the ultimate space game for decades now, already providing everything that the SC backers are hoping SC will someday provide.

[@xblade56478645]

Excepttttt space legs

[@Wheelman81]

I feel like the big question every new player has is: "what's my goal?" I still don't know. It feels like everything comes back to ISK/hr. Buy why am I earning all of this ISK? Is it just so I can buy things that with further increase my ISK/hr? :P Coming from something like WoW, I feel like the game needs a "big boss" or something. Like some kind of NPC evil that corporations can fight against or solo players can help defeat by building equipment. It'd need to be on par with something like the opening of the gates of Ahn'Qiraj. It'd need to be something so big that everyone in game is working to beat it together whether by mining minerals, finding rare blueprints, building ships, or actually flying out to fight it.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Gotta get into pvp, its the real endgame tbh. Without that eventually you will beat the game, have the best in slot items, a low to do the best missions, avoiding pvp. The game changes so much when you allow yourself to have some risk, or spend some time going to do pvp.

[@helderperez1474]

would be curious to see more Eve content. After watching your video it made me more curious but still not willing to commit to this game.

[@Kongjie57]

Fuck bro I was literally weighting up which vid to watch between yours and the first vid you flashed on screen at 0:46 Thanks for the honest and well reasoned guide.

[@istvanbrudnyak5105]

Thanks for the Skills.. Its a nice video! Came back to play. xoxo Userless

[@evzensmola6678]

Great review! Looking forward next update.

[@divye.ruhela]

I'm probably gonna be pissed if I get ambushed by a group of players. 😄 But keep playing to get back at them. Also, whenever I'm picking on new games like these which have been around for a while, there's always this feeling of coming too late to it, like a million players are sooo ahead of you.

[@Denis-gk8dj]

i tried to play the game as a miner but there were a lot of things that i couldn't understand (with scaning, equiping things in your ship and others) and i gave up but if the game is good i will try again

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I’ll help you out if you have questions and want to try again. Feel free to message me on discord the info should be in my about section

[@Spearra]

The entire time I'm watching and listening to this, I just hear the "Somebody I used to know" lore meme version

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I wish I knew what you were talking about lol.. link?

[@victord9421]

I got an ad for Eve Online before the video lol

[@CapnCrunchESO]

That’s good marketing 😂

[@_traphic]

i have been feeling to play an mmo recently. this game has always caught my eye but ive never played. one thing about this video that really turned me off to the game is when he said 'to get a good ship, you have to pay a subscription'

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

That's not really true though, and you wont even think about those ships for like a month atleast, lots of free content, and can sub for free the exact same as how wow tokens work.

[@stephenmaher4107]

When I get in I will be warrior the miner I will be the way

[@ZeNex74]

I keep trying then hit a wall.. hard to get a corp and dunno what to do next

[@ralphwalker5712]

thank you for your video, I have joined thanks to your link. Thank you so much. All I have to do now is learn how to play, lol lol

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Have fun! Try to find an active corp with people who are willing to help you learn the game.

[@ralphwalker5712]

@@CapnCrunchESO i will try, if you or anybody reading this knows of one, please let me know.

[@amelulomexad3237]

Got the game a few days ago because it looked cool and i had heard its reputation as a spreadsheet sim but i hadn't expected this level of complexity

[@CapnCrunchESO]

After you get used to the UI it’s actually not that complex. Don’t forget your free skill points too it helps a lot! Either use my referral link or ask a friend for theirs! Have fun

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

​@@CapnCrunchESO your going to be rich from referrals and never have to pay for omega 😂 good job on the video and dont quit the game soon 😅

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@umadbroimatroll7918 lol is that what they do? Send in game currency? I was wondering… haha 😂

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

@@CapnCrunchESO you get 14 days omega when someone subscribes, and 4 master at arms cerebral accelerators when someone buys plex, those can be sold for 81m isk each.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

@@umadbroimatroll7918 just checked my inventory and yep I had 4 of those things. Sold them for like 350m haha. Guess I’m buying a Gila next

[@River313]

Excellent review, now I want to play again

[@justinjones3326]

What I like most about eve is there no map hacks no wall hacks no aim bots no desync hack no invulnerable hack..... look at rust tarkov sc2 even wow all filled with scripters and hackers and third party interface users.... Star citizen if and when will be filled with cheaters as well..... but eve only multiboxing and everyone can do it......

[@YGG44]

Liking a game because there is no hacker in it is pretty fkng stupid lol not gonna lie, not to mention the hacks you put in are for a completely different kind of game 😂😂😂

[@henrybole6014]

Do not forget to add the ingame currency to buy the items

[@profitabundance70707]

10:01 Sounds like what I would do. Oh wait. I did back in 2005 when I played this game. Nothing but pirate games and scheming/planning the next pirate gig.🤣🤣🤣 Good times. I think that and big pvp battles and spying other peoples corperations/factions and then get all there stuff, sell it and run was the best fun fun Eve had to offer. Offcourse there was alot more stuff to do but the adrenaline stuff was definitely that. Glad to see Eve still fun I see after all these years.

[@vophatechnicus]

imho CCP ruined the game as soon as they started the alpha/omega clone thingy.. I played the game thousands of hours, alone, with friends, etc. I even paid for it back then. But as soon as prices started to rise and i am not even able to use my mining barges without paying for omega... Well done CCP, best game destroyed cause of pure greed.

[@Carthe0002]

Good video, I’ve wondered about this game for a long time

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Hopefully you give it a try!

[@totallybradical7]

Hey, thanks for the review. I was wondering what you used to learn a lot of the things you talked about as an early game player, or if there is a good yt series to watch. Thanks

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Check the bottom of the description 😊

[@peterprokai1329]

3:45 never AFK mine. Safety Alliance will chew your ass up.

[@Xformat01]

So the bottom line is: If you're going to be serious about this game, give in to the fact that you'll be firmly addicted if you're to succeed.

[@clarion-z2929]

After 5 hours, i felt like calling eve as a game is bit too much. It felt more like watching someone else playing the game than doing it myself. But some people rather watch twitch than play for themselves..

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Imagine as If being the commander on a ship. You give commands, tell the crew what to do, but the actual flying the ship itself is not done by the commander of the ship

[@tylerricker230]

The amount of stuff on the ui gives me a nervous meltdown just looking at that lol

[@MalcolmLionel-cc5dj]

As far as sub price can get it down by buying longer blocks of time, as well as buying on sale.

[@RushlockMedia]

Glad you experienced being arrested in wormhole space! Hopefully you'll join us Sunday, 1700 game time, be 20 mins early!

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Unfortunately was late to registration this week but I’ll be there next week.

[@Bubblebunzz]

I mean the lazypeon isn't wrong tho. If you can't keep someones interest after an hour or so its not for you. Similar to me watching this review I just cant do it. The game looks like photoshop its insane. lol

[@GeoFry3]

I wonder if my old accounts are still there.

[@Garox97]

I tried Eve for one year like 6-8 years ago game is really good by means of what can you do but for free to play it’s almost impossible to get somewhere it’s grindy as hell if you wanna plate for free, you need to have a lot of free time I mean really a lot of free time if you new to game and wanna actually play some PvP, community is bad yea I got answers for questions about he game, quests ect but in one year I only met some other 2 random new players that actually wanted to play together most of the guilds „use” new players for mining or just don’t care to much more than answering questions on chat, I never meet some pro that would play which new players show the game help some more, also guilds companies or how it is called in eve had impossible requirements for new players or players like me who don’t have 8 h per day to play one game Game is good, community is meh, not friendly for new players, grindy as hell

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Check the description, it has a corp that is chill, doesn't need 8h a day and you can make lots of isk as a free player, community is good if you actually join a proper corp. Eve university is the best new player group, but there is tons of them that are not bad highsec mining corps.

[@Garox97]

@@umadbroimatroll7918 dude it was 8 years ago I dont have time for eve to grind right now, even more grind than before because so much content is added and every "pro" has a titan and tons of money

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

@@Garox97 every pro does not have a titan, they are useless and can easily die. Not only that they are not fun to fly. You have some misunderstanding of eve core fundamentals of gameplay, the bigger ships are not better, and everyone will lose whatever ship they fly eventually so they wont fly the best they can afford. And what do you even mean grind to get to content? This is not wow, new content does not make old content obsolete.

[@Garox97]

By titan I meant when I was playing those kind of ships, top "tier" ships were rare now probably most long term players have them and so much money so many ships ect. that i never gonna be abble to compete with those people, which make most of the player base, grind to get to content? that answers its self grind grind grind grind to get ships modules upgrades missions ect that people actually play, to get things that actually allow me to play which others most of the time when I tried eve there were almost non new players or 90% left after a week because not of the so called "hard to understand curve" but more because of grind and feeling of being alone, you see others ships, other players, they answer your questions on chat ect. but thats it, like i said before only two new randoms join me to play sometimes together because non one "long term player" would join me or us back than to actually help understand better the game just "take some noobs under the wing" to explain play together only what i saw was Corporations using new players for mining sit here for 1 month and mine for us yea we gonna give you some "guards" that it go mine after you made enough for next ship with modules so you gonna play maybe some pve nope no one gonna help kicked out of the corporation because you dont mine, you know flying solo all the time is boring or mining all the time is also boring, also I would get a ship that gonna be destroyed in seconds by some gate campers or just pirates in 10x better ship with 10x better modules than you and all skills its just that Eve is good game but to grindy and feeling of being alone all the time because no one cares to play with newbies thats why eve have low population 30k online players is not a lot where most of them are only "pro hardcore players"

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

@@Garox97 lol your so wrong, and if you dont want to believe because your too stubborn to play a free game go ahead 🤣 I dont care, i literally was just here correcting what you think about eve but is wrong. All the ships that top corps and alliances use are able to get skilled into within a week or so, and you wont need to grind as most alliances have welfare, you get given free ships and ship replacements. Your memories are 8 years old as you say so yourself, and the game has changed to have less isk grinding time, less skill grind, and easier to travel and find pvp. Not only that the community itself has changed also, much more friendly, against scammers, gankers, etc. I know 10 years ago it was very different, I played then and everyone wanted to be the next big scammer or get isk from ganking, now its very looked down upon in the community. And 30k at any given time, up to 50k at peaks is in the top 20 games played on steam if all players were there, so not dead by any means, and higher than many other mmos that are not considered dead or dying either.

[@marakuyovimalesh3793]

Little correction: You don't do things "in" wormholes, and there's nothing "inside" wormholes. Wormholes are conduits like jump gates. The area of space reached via these wormholes is called "Anoikis", or more casually J-space.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

Never thought of it that way, good point and thank you for the correction :)

[@KiteoHatto]

Would love to play again, but 20/month on top of a cash shop is too much.

[@Deep_field]

Hi. 10 year vet here. Was part of groups such as Honorable Third Party, Black Legion and The Initiative. Haven't played since a bit into citadels but the one piece of advice I can give is.... This game is about the people you meet along the way. No other game has given the sense of community(both good and bad) that Eve does.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

RIP BL, fought in placid and fountain, good times, and currently fighting Honerable Third Party right now in providence:)

[@bruhnisher5454]

Look perfect for fans of the Expanse.

[@britka-sablja]

Do you have a guide how to configure your UI? I have seen a lot of videos with diferent windows opened, but as a new player I am using the default ones, and I am affraid that I will miss something because all windows are grouped together

[@bminturn]

I was surprised at how good those graphics are. Eve is old old school.

[@CapnCrunchESO]

I was too, I always thought the graphics were like super zoomed out like you often see in videos but I guess maybe that’s just the way some of the OGs play

[@goldeneagle256]

eve is old, but its allso being constantly updated, so just last couple of years the game have got major graphic upgrades. quite a few people dont like it at all, because especially when you multibox it requires a lot more powerful computers to run this days then what it did earlier

[@bminturn]

@@goldeneagle256 yeah I didn't realize that people were botting on Eve Online, but that makes sense considering the era that it was released.

[@bminturn]

@@goldeneagle256 also, I don't use the word "bot" in the way that you would someone just automating and walking away from the computer. We used to "bot" in DAoC too, but you'd be actively controlling both toons (for the most part).

[@goldeneagle256]

@@bminturn multiboxing aint botting bro

[@kennenite2092]

I've been playing since near the beginning but took a few year hiatus, this review popped up and is making me want to jump back in :D.

[@umadbroimatroll7918]

Do it! Nothing to lose 😊

[@maxlegio5884]

There is no other MMO as complex as EvE online. The learning curve is horrible but after some point it is endless fun and video game content. You guys need to try it out;

[@CapnCrunchESO]

The rumor that it’s a “spreadsheet simulator” is why I didn’t try it for so many years. And I’m disappointed I didn’t because I’m having a blast.

[@mikspurins1455]

Spreadsheets are optional at best. Sure, for people running multiple industry toons they seem mandatory, just to keep everything in check. But for casual Solo players like me - I never found myself a use for any. Most i use is in-game notepad for some scribbles, so I don't forget what I wanted to buy from market... If you like to skip the indy stuff and go straight for pew-pews - the notes/sheets become even less necessary. Although you could argue jotting down some notes/revelations after your fights might be helpful to learn faster - if you're already so determined, recording the fights is much more efficient.

[@blakey_wakey]

Im so scared to play this. Looks overwhelming and so time consuming to do any little thing...

[@larsmortensen5115]

I would say yes if your in for the loooong haul. But anything less than the loooong haul, then no, this game demands your time more than most games.