Should you play World of Warcraft Classic in 2020? [Yes, just be aware it's slow]

Ladies and Gentlemen welcome, I'm Josh 'Strife' Hayes and today we're asking the question, should you play WoW Classic in 2020?
The answer is, yes, but be aware it's a slow game and will take a lot of time to progress.
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[@codyslone9258]

respect this man for literally putting the answer in the title

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

I dislike videos that don't.

[@hx2975]

@@JoshStrifeHayes I watched and liked just for title

[@turbomalder5257]

respectus maximale

[@Probablyafed]

I subbed just off that I respect that move so much

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

@@Probablyafed your time is valuable, the answer in the title just helps.

[@UnseenOct]

I was an OG wow player who stopped around the Burning Crusade and revisited it once post Lich King. I was SO surprised they added quest markers and made dungeons easy to teleport to. Some of my favorite moments were begging barons chat to help me find quest targets or sneaking through enemy territory to get to a opposite faction dungeon with some people I met in a hub. The changes arent bad, but those were good times.

[@Smokedbeats]

I personally love the slow, grindy, and overall more social wow classic

[@birb7497]

I hate that i never really got into the game on release day bc rn i almost never find another player in the open

[@Alexquinn169]

@Wizzykin tbh when i started to play wow classic every person i met was being toxic and cocky and that put me off it but i gave it one more chance and tbh alot of people have changed and i love that :)

[@syrus1233]

@@birb7497 is it worth playing now or is it dead?

[@birb7497]

@@syrus1233 I wouldn't say that it is dead. It is just that u won't find as many players in the open world anymore

[@henrikmonkee]

What you just said is nonsense, Mankrik server is crazy populated rn, i'm Horde and there is players everywhere at the point of having to wait for mobs to respawn, and you always find someone to help you with though enemies.

[@midgetydeath]

Tip to new players: *Do not buy every skill.* Read what each one you can buy does and consider if it fits how you play or would be something you wish you’d had before. If so, get it. Otherwise save your money. For example, you won’t be backstabbing much as a rogue soloing so don’t bother. The money adds up and there’s no shame in saving up to buy a set of far superior equipment than you currently have.

[@midgetydeath]

Tip: Remember that lower ranked skills are weaker but significantly cheaper in mana. So, they’re not useless and something to keep in mind. They’ll always be less cost efficient than higher ranks, of course, but cheap skills aren’t worthless.

[@adaptabledisease]

What I miss most of all from classic wow was the buffs, you could talk to somoene or trade with them or maybe even group with them. But when you are alone, running down some abandoned forest trail and you see another player you had one goal, buff him, help him. It got the point it reminded me of the Knights of Old raising their visors to salute each other. It was a hello, a salute and your respect for that player all rolled up into 100 mana, and I miss it. :(

[@sergeybelousov108]

I've played classic since launch and know most of the stuff already, but still watched your video to the end - very well done! For new players who want to participate in this beautiful game - it is worth it even if you play an hour a day. Noone forces you to level to the cap. If you run slow you actually get to experience more content than players who rush to the end and get bored. There is an easy way to get gold while not playing - there are professions with cooldown (2-3-4 days) that bring very valuable items to the market, and you don't need to be high level to do that. For example, if you invest your money into "Salt shaker" which is made by engineers and level your Leatherworking, you can refine "Deeprock salt" (~5 silver) to "Refined deeprock salt" (~30 gold) by just one click every 3 days. You'll have money for new gear, consumables and mounts which will improve your experience by far

[@fpow5284]

I look forward to returning to it, but I am waiting until Microsoft owns it and cleans house.

[@lazydgsf7429]

Made me feel really old to hear you explain this to people like they were born yesterday. Because from perspective they were. Damn, all days come to pass. Thank you Josh, such great content on a genre I gave up on years and years ago. Makes me want to go back. I am trying ESO.

[@shingshing01]

I played on the ptr and was reminded of a time when crafting skills mattered to a new player. My pally was able to leave Elwynn with a full suit of bronze including some crafted greens. I could really feel the difference in survivability. Some of my gear was even better than the quest rewards. It was satisfying to return to a time when low level crafting was actually worthwhile.

[@0ffaI]

"Most games rush you through the early game to get to the endgame content quicker" *Shows Runescape* 😰

[@Assi321]

runescape 3, which is known to be much, much quicker than old school runescape

[@OnTheRocksGamingShow]

@@Assi321 Even so, RS3 is a much MUCH bigger grind than Classic WoW. In no way does it rush you to the end game. Classic wow may be 250 hours to max level and the beginning of raiding, but RuneScape, both Old School and 3, are hundreds of hours to max a single skill. I have over 5,000 hours in RuneScape and have only recently maxed all skills. I started playing WoW classic last year and got to 60 in 2 in game weeks, spread over a few months (with a break in the middle). I maxed all skills, both primary and secondary, and it has all been at a new player's pace, no min maxing, no efficient grinding, just casual playing. WoW has absolutely nothing on Runescape's grind and that mention in the video is the only thing I heavily disagree with. I also want to clarify, a bigger grind doesn't mean a better game. I just wanted the facts straight here, RuneScape (both versions) has one of the biggest grinds in gaming, as far as I know, and certainly bigger than any version of WoW.

[@Assi321]

@@OnTheRocksGamingShow I agree. I have more than 30k hours on both runescapes combined. I have limited experience in wow classic. But depending on what your goal is runescape 3 could be similiar speed to end game-ish content. But overall even runescape private servers where experience rates are hugely boosted will be a lot more grindy than most games.

[@r.pizzamonkey7379]

"I for one am so relieved not to be the chosen one" YES, I've been saying this about wow classic for years. It's one of the most immersive worlds I've ever inhabited because it feels so large. A big part of that is how you actually have to travel around it, but I'd argue an even more import part is that narratively the world feels larger than you. When every person walking around the city is a legendary hero of all time it's belittling to the world as a whole.

[@carloscalleros3972]

Damn i love your video bro! I have a few friends who are starting wow one is returning vet and i cant wait to get my pc and start my quest!

[@brandenbran]

Grinding in games has always been a hit or miss for me. Done right and it can feel cathartic in a way. Just mind numbing in a good way idk I can’t really describe it. Anyways this is the only game I like grinding in and I’ve played a lot of mmos. I just put on a podcast and get lost in the tedious grind and it’s relaxing

[@vanyadolly]

I agree. When I don't play for a while it's the grinding I start missing. It's just a good way to relax, sometimes.

[@TheMCmace]

Can‘t understand it because WoW has basically the most boring grind of all MMO‘s

[@optidalfprime3904]

@@TheMCmace Maybe that's it? It's so boring that your brain turns off the game 100% and you can just do something else?

[@countpythagoras]

Appart from the sub fee, the only thing keeping me from trying this is the time requirment. When life gets in the way, you can't spend 5-6 hours in a game per day. And the ones you do, must be balanced between what games you would like to play. I like to play minecraft. I also like TF2. I also also like single player games. When a game is forcefullu time demanding....well....it doesn't actually target gamers in general. It targets gamers who play few or only one game. And then the sub fee. We have a game that i am not going to be able to play a lot, but to play it i need to give money. That means, the less time you have or the more variant your interests are, the less sence value wise it makes to play the game. And it is a damn shame, because i wanted to try this badly. I just wish they made it more solo friendly without the rest of the bullshit retail has.

[@ZipzZzzz5]

The game is good, because it requires time. If u get what u want, its not the same game, and u would not play it still. If u dont have time to play it, play other games. Maby retail wow. Its basically the game for people whit limited time to play. But its shite.

[@malygos9301]

5-6 hours a night in classic wow still isn't enough most people played 10-12 hours a day to get raid ready or you have spend months. As soon as TBC launched it died blizz was kinda right people didn't really want classic.

[@Wyzai]

@@malygos9301 no. People wanted classic. They loved it. A portion of the playerbase played it for the nostalgia so they would obviously drop out once they got their fix. What TBC did is re-introduce microtransactions - the very reason people escaped retail. Those two factors combined is what caused the playerbase to crash. For raiding you needed around 200 - 300 hours to reach it. You had about a year to do it. It's not unreasonable even if you don't play 6 - 12 hours every day. Season of Mastery still exists and will presumably exist for a while yet. You have plenty of time to get those 300 hours done. You might be able to do it faster if you have help from other people.

[@rotobracca]

this is genuinely one of the most in depth and newbie friendly guides for WoW: Classic - still holds up 2 years on!

[@wadesworld6250]

In my lengthy gaming life (I played the original Pong), nothing has surpassed the feeling of when I stepped into my first WoW dungeon. The feeling and excitement was absolutely magical.

[@vulturevic]

Hello fellow Ponger. I played WoW back in 2004. My daughter was born in 2005. I stopped playing. She’s now 17. Day after her birthday I purchased a gaming laptop with the intention of playing WoW again. I’ll be 52 in a month. Join me!

[@HWHY]

@@vulturevic How did your plan pan out? Do you play? Does your daughter?

[@erg0apollo]

I grew up with a lot of friends playing WoW but I never did, back in the day. Now, I'm 28 years old and decided to try Classic. I absolutely love it. It's a grind, yeah, and demands a lot of my time, but I have some time now what with Covid and stuff. It's been a nice hobby and something to do with my downtime. I also very recently (last week) started to give Retail a try and it's a totally ENTIRELY different experience. It took me sometime to enjoy it, but now I stay consistent with Retail as well. Thanks for this video! It would be cool for you to do a breakdown of Retail as well for noobs like me, but I understand that that video would be for an extremely niche player population.

[@CountryballWorld]

I was soooo pumped for this! Got to like level 10 2 months later and was done

[@leviwalker7385]

One of the best reveiws ive ever seen. Awesome man

[@aaakitsune]

I keep imagine if someone made a game like WoW classic, but with modern dungeon and raid mechanics to both allow for the epic adventure of leveling and exploring, but also providing a satisfying and hard challenge for a endgame. I cant wait for someone to create that game!

[@SiopeR]

seems like Ashes of Creations is following this road. Maybe New World could also give similar vibe, they are evolving it all the time so we just have to wait and cross fingers :)

[@Vihara2]

Open world social aspects and exploration, and a proactive dev team preventing people from meta gaming and cheesing their way to victory are a must to begin with, even wow classic failed at the last part.

[@easyy376]

@@SiopeR here from the future. New Word was a big flop.

[@theodorejenkins6066]

Just play WoW private servers. I personally am playing Project Ascension. It is VERY different than regular WoW and has very hard endgame stuff for players who want it. I LOVE IT. Most fun I've in WoW since 2011

[@alexandruanton633]

Very thoroughly explained! Congrats!

[@javvyjavvy]

You make classic wow sound like its a chore . Your making me salivate wanting to play.

[@miamifins08]

It’s definitely a job. But it’s a job everyone loves and you’re your own boss. The best.

[@Avenus112]

Andre has it perfectly right. You're an adventurer, not saving the world but solving one problem at a time. Most of the time you're paid in nothing but your own loot and reputation that means basically nothing but that's life sometimes. It's a selfemployed, selfdirected adventure and for all its inscrutability the game actually was brilliant.

[@finegamingconnoisseur]

Even though the Classic server was grindy, time-consuming, and confusing at times, there was something satisfying about it all that I don't think I could find in the current WoW servers. There was a sense of achievement, you felt like you were growing your character one level and talent at a time. The comparatively lack of fast and instant travel meant that you spent more time journeying through the expansive world, you got to see the world more often. There was a sense of scale of just how big the world was and how tiny you were in the grand scheme of things. It felt like a proper MMORPG. Group content and social interactions actually required social interaction instead of hitting a button to join a queue and then sitting there waiting for your group to land in the group dungeon. There was more unexpected and memorable encounters with other players because everyone was out there in the world more. If I were to return to World of Warcraft today, it would be the Classic server for me all the way.

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

I agree, i do miss playing wow classic.

[@finegamingconnoisseur]

@Brian I can agree with you on that, after watching videos like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5uTqIatep2msKc

[@brentlangford]

@@JoshStrifeHayes the Major problem wow classic had was everyone knows everything about the game. If you could take off the add ons, the online strat guides, this game would be back to or surpas the glory it was in 2004 to 06. Back then when i first started playing there were no online guides. My pc I played it on was a gateway with 516mb of hard disk space.

[@RandomGuy-lu7he]

I skipped to the end so this man could get his ad money Thank you

[@MichaelPate-michaelkpate]

I tried to play during the Launch - after 10+ years of playing retail and 6 months away. I never could get a character past Level 6. I just got bored. I had gone through Elwynn Forest too many times both pre and post Cata and I just couldn't get excited about doing it again. And none of the other routes even had nostalgia value for me. I gladly let my sub lapse at the end of the month. It is definitely worth playing if you haven't played it and want to - but that wasn't me.

[@MichaelPate-michaelkpate]

@Adam Pattinson I could have made an Orc, I guess, but I have always gravitated toward Alliance.

[@Hakuntamahobbest]

I have very good memories of WoW in the beginning when ij played back in 2004. Had a lot of time back then i can understand people playing it now, but if want to keep the memories like they are :) and focus on up to date wow which i still enjoy! :D

[@Islamivan]

I just love hear you talking

[@sumsis5051]

I like classic much more than the later versions, the slow progression and long distances to run gives you a feeling of it progressing in real time and makes it much more fun when you do level up or get better!

[@sumsis5051]

But I do have a program installed so that I can see where to take quests and so on, otherwise it would be way too hard to know where to go! 🤣

[@olekristianrannekleiv762]

A side effect of the slow progression is that you know it will take forever to get to top level so you stop and look around, you get bored of lvling and start doing other things in azeroth. Slow progression results in living inside the world in a different way. If anything I wish they made a wow that was even slower and 30% harder endgame.

[@Magmagan]

That satiates my curiosity on WoW! My friend circle got into Runescape in the old days (being free was a big plus in Brazil), so I never got into WoW. I don't think the lots of raiding with clans and high player count needed is up my alley though.

[@alyssinwilliams4570]

I love the air-taxis in WoW, so chill to just watch things fly by or alternately a good time to go get a drink or use the restroom.

[@magicdrshoon]

Very in-depth and informative. Any chance of a Dark Age of Camelot review?

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

Likely appearing on the 'worst mmo ever' series as ill judge it from todays standards.

[@genesis4322]

I am going to be getting back in to Classic as it's been a while since i last touched it. I was there at launch up until a few months in and it was real fun as it was though.

[@Relbl]

To put it in perspective about being slow: as a new player, it will likely take you about 10 game days to reach max level (which is really about half the journey). So literally 240hrs playing the game just to get to the point where you can START raiding and heavily gearing up. If you only get to play 3hrs a day, that's nearly three months of playing to get to max level, and if you are focused and lucky _only_ another three months to get all the best gear for your character. Comparing to my first run through Dark Souls, where I knew nothing and was completely terrible and didn't know the genre at all... I got my first Gwyn kill within a week. Comparing to modern WoW, in Legion I could have a max lvl 110 character spit out in just about a week and have him geared at a normal raid tier ilvl within another couple of days. 10 days vs six months - that's Classic baby

[@TheMCmace]

I mean boring content shortend to 10 days from 6 month is a good thing

[@DivinionFaith]

Would be interested in seeing how new videos in this series would work out for ya. Personally, I enjoyed it and would like more.

[@xDeathshardx]

It's actually a breath of fresh air to go back and enjoy the progression. I hate how all of these modern MMO's rush me to the end-game. I may give this a try and level up a Warlock again.

[@TheFibrewire]

I really love classic I got burned after hitting rank 10 on my warrior, I still consider it to be the best MMORPG as I always felt the world is alive and not revolved around me. Not a single character cares who I am. I love the feeling of a humble adventurer.

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

Id agree, the feeling that you dont matter is actually quite nice, you have to earn your place.

[@LG-ro5le]

Your so right about graphics style, i think alot of people nowadays need to remind themselves that games are games, it dosnt need to look like real life, wow classic and old school runescape are 2 amazing games that each found there own ‘niche’ and the graphics defining there style

[@Wyzai]

I think some things get glossed over in graphics. WoW classic looks kind of bad, but everything else about it visually is amazing. Spells and abilities look cool, you have a lot of animations for everything and the animations are really detailed. It's probably the only game I've played where just slugfesting auto-attacks with an NPC, without pressing any buttons, actually looks nice.

[@poorhammer40k]

God, if I had to pick my favorite game of all time it would be WoW. My wife and I grew up together playing this, and we still stay up to date on new content. However, we burn out fast because of the power creep and the lack of feeling like you're actually getting more powerful at the highest levels nowadays. WoW Classic was a lot of fun for us and I think we got up to lvl 30 before realizing we couldn't dedicate a whole lot of time to it being parents and all. We'll get back to it eventually, but I have to say WoW Classic is a lot more rewarding and feels more challenging because your class roles feel more established, and they require you to actually have interesting move rotations.

[@kaafflick]

Can someone break down what makes it better then bdo or ff14. Ive been looking at videos of wow and classic and its confusing which is better and or if either are worth it

[@Giogiogio4]

@@kaafflick FF11 is better than FF14. And Wow is on par or better than FF11. I grew up playing FF11 instead of warcraft. But when I went to warcraft I had a hard time going back to ff11. FF11 even after all this time is still run. It just has a certain style to it that aged very well. I still enjoy the intro zone to the alliance in wow.

[@kennygallagher4700]

WoW Classic's ability rotations are not more interesting than modern's rotations...mostly because very few abilities worked off each other in a linear fashion. You ever look at Classic Mage and think "man, look at that rotation. I could never do that"? Probably not, it literally involves like 3 whole buttons, only one of which is a damaging spell. But now look at, for example, a Retail Fire Mage, and how in-depth their rotations can get, thanks to burst windows, aligning dps cooldowns, execution phases, etc.

[@CoryD918]

Watching this video gave me pure nostalgia

[@peteking01]

I just love that the image used for "paladin" is a blood elf fury warrior dual wielding two Frostmournes :D

[@Dizintegrator]

using post cataclysm screenshots and art as an example of what classic was like is a cheeky thing indeed ;)

[@TheKotfu]

This game sounds amazing. When's it coming out??

[@gl3110]

I played back in vanilla but didn't start playing it seriously until wrath. I tried to go back and play it but couldnt get into it at all. I might try and get back into it again during its BC period. Brack was right, in my case, I thought it would be neat to go back but I was wrong.

[@Bananskuden]

The Hunter was the preferred solo class and somewhat faster to level, but they usually had a bad reputation in groups.

[@jld12er30]

i hated hunters in classic due to you having to spend money on ammo instead of other stuff i loved my pally it was slower to lvl but it WOULD NOT DIE and you got a free mount which was HUGE

[@Wyzai]

In classic this is more of a meme. I think it's because originally a lot of beginners played hunters because it was easy. When I played classic I was surprised how rare druids and hunters were. The hunters I saw I personally welcomed. The ability to run 30% faster in a dungeon and trap enemies is a great quality of life improvement.

[@midgetydeath]

Burning Crusade greatly reduced the amount of xp needed to level up until you reach level 58. Wrath of the Lich King may have as well but I don’t know. Still a gradual progression, but much more smooth. You won’t find yourself needing to go to analogous areas for other races of your faction to level up enough to move on. I think BC was also when quest offers and completion marks were added to the minimap. It only shows you where NPCs offering or the completion point for quests are, which is nice. Greys out if their indoors/outdoors relative to you.

[@andromidius]

WoW Season of Mastery came out a few weeks ago, and all I have to say is... I'm hooked again. Even with the increased experience gains its still not a breeze levelling quickly, the server I'm on is very well populated (a little TOO populated in places...), the community is mostly very positive (with some people ruining it very loudly), dungeons are good fun and worthwhile even if you get no loot (shocking, I know!) and the prospect of tougher raids is a very good goal to work towards. And the fact it'll only be around for 12 months is a weird positive too.

[@Bandoolero]

I played through Kronos3 up until killing Cthun, but still enjoyed watching this!

[@carthag1574]

I remember the beta, then the release and pexing my druid to level 60 almost always in solo but for the dungeon and the last 10 level... with healing specialization, it was hard but i liked it even if i would NEVER do it again.

[@louisoost121]

Bought a new pc, and I literally just have wow classic on it. Play about 4 hours give or take on the weekdays and I only took a 2 week break from it.

[@vulturevic]

I played Pong when I was six. I played WoW back in 2004. My daughter was born in 2005. I stopped playing. She’s now 17. Day after her birthday I purchased a gaming laptop with the intention of playing WoW again. I’ll be 52 in a month. Join me!

[@gungan5822]

Love the flight paths.

[@MrGetownedLP]

Crazy how what keeps bringing me to classic over retail whenever I take breaks from retail is just how massive the world in classic feels. The world size is significantly smaller than retail but the travelling makes the world seem massive in scope!!

[@jomelcapinpin7641]

I like classic!! I loved leveling each class. Makes me want to buy a PC. Just to play

[@nightowl8387]

Come to bigglesworth horde. Join my guild

[@midgetydeath]

Partying with people you see is a good idea. The large number of enemies to kill or drops to collect (sometimes with a very low drop rate) encourages this. You can use /who and send whispers to people to easily build a group, even for a dungeon. Copy-paste what yoi wanna say to everyone and just go down the list of names.

[@ixiah]

Talking about the old quest system and how it doesn't share certain information..while having questie in his footage. My man.

[@henrikmonkee]

At this time i regret spending crazy amounts of time and money in retail because i almost never felt true joy playing it and i dont even remember chatting with anyone about killing a boss, complete isolation, and the general chat is just a shitty mess, so i decided to quit retail for good and go full classic all the way now. And i can say, i've had more fun in a week than ever before.

[@rootchiller]

Started playing on 07 and loved it. If I go on retail now, I don't know what to do tbh it's all over the place. I know where I am in classic, TBC was good too, Wrath as well, but the fun stopped there. If they continue Classic with TBC and Wrath then the 3rd expansion of classic should be completely new and include old Azeroth in some way to keep early zones relevant and busy.

[@dandreas1105]

What server you rolled?, im having hard time in faerlina as a newbie.

[@henrikmonkee]

@@dandreas1105 Currently my main is on Mankrik, tons and tons of horde and alliance everywhere i think it's 6k each, other players are patient and willing to help you out throught dungeons and stuff, pretty chill.

[@dandreas1105]

@@henrikmonkee Thanks anyways, just canceled my subscription, because barely find people to play with

[@TwiZtIdNHalf]

“Quest says go west.... you’re just walkin west u til you find whatever you might need”. 🤣🤣 my favorite part of the video. Lmfao

[@Brianch85]

love this game thats how i remeber it hope the old rank system is in it with the pvp

[@Alikaakui808]

Thank you for making this video. Most WoW Classic youtube content i come across is "Here is why retail is better than classic" and as someone who loves to play classic, I don't want to consume that content just because youtube suggests a video from a "WoW Classic Content Creator" when they are really promoting retail, the game I dont want to consume, and discouraging classic, the game I want to consume!

[@finchicoph]

Im interested more in the story. Would you recommend retail or classic? Or just read the books? Im a casual player if I were to play, probably 1-2 hours weekdays and 4 hours weekends.

[@JoshStrifeHayes]

The books have awesome story. Classic is a slower but more in depth story, retail has so, so much lore to cover that you'll never feel truly caught up. If you want lore, look into buying the encyclopedia books or visual guides, they're beautiful books.

[@finchicoph]

@@JoshStrifeHayes wow, yeah thank you, I guess Ill get the book then. It's just that theres so many of them. The reading order, Ill just follow the publish year.

[@Greg-gy7cd]

@@finchicoph Not actually explained well in the video with all the grinding talk, but classic is actually more casual friendly, especially at end game!

[@Joseph-wh5of]

Hello Mr. Hayse or anyone in the comment section, I come from ESO and want to play Wow classic. However is it still popular today? Since so much of the content in the game relies on teamwork I was wondering if people still play at low levels in 2021.

[@Klaisak]

Still playing Classic TBC, waiting to play my DK in WotLK classic! :)

[@cultofmalgus1310]

slow and steady is the way to go. Stop rushing yourself, enjoy, take it easy! it's a relaxing experience.

[@shingshing01]

Slow down You move too fast You gotta make The morning last, just Kickin' down The cobble stones Looking for fun And feeling groovy. -Chen Stormstout 😜

[@CallOfEuropeanSpirit]

100%!

[@Giogiogio4]

I wish they updated the graphics when putting this together. Not change it layout and content wise. But updating the trees, grass and so on. Since they arent having to worry about all types of massive content they couldve updated it to make it an even deeper game. Kinda like a New start.

[@TheMapleDaily]

Ah playing burning crusade classic and watching this is kinda funny, now lets hope for wrath which was my favorite expansion!

[@peacegardenpress4843]

The chart at 1:13. You see how beginning of every expansion there is an increase in subscriptions. Except for the transition between WotLK and Cata. That's because towards the end of WotLK there was an update that killed off many veterans. So while some people came back during Cata release. It couldn't surpass the amount of people who were leaving. It no longer felt like the "classic" wow we loved. After that patch Wow never rebounded and this chart really shows that. I want to play classic but idk if I'm too late.

[@Wyzai]

you weren't. Might be now. Classic WoW is still live, but it's different. The nostalgia players have left it.

[@midgetydeath]

Classic retains what makes WoW addictive. And I think this mostly is due to not having shards and layering, not having the dungeon finder so people can’t just camp in a city running dungeons from there without even playing the game and instead must be out in the world, and I think having directions in quest text instead of marking everything for you on your map also helps as it requires your own involvement to use.

[@ghostsheepy.]

I mostly played during BFA but still had a great time in classic

[@playerj8574]

the reason wow 2004 was so successful was because of all the reasons you stated. it was slow and difficult. they only ruined it with feature bloat and over complicated it because of the teenagers these days need to get every thing NOW and are not willing to grind for it like we were when we were teenagers in the early 2000's

[@aleksadmitrovic6347]

This is so legit comment, and you forgot that we didn't had so many guides on you tube, everything was new for everyone. New wow kinda loses that warcraft vibes, with ogres, trolls or gnols, now everything is kinda messed up in world,i think that is the reason why people don't like new expansions.

[@jock4551]

it's not teenager's fault that people making money noticed that instant gratification is much better for bigger profits.

[@123n704123]

boomer energy is strong within this one

[@cultofmalgus1310]

@@jock4551 the secret the porn industry has known all long.

[@0ffaI]

@@123n704123 Ain't nothing wrong with that. Hell I'm 21 and I feel like a boomer the way things have changed last 10 years 😅

[@eurosonly]

It's funny seeing Ian say that they couldn't do cross faction grouping even though every expansion pack had us team up to take down the main bad guy. Although, a few months later they did add cross faction dungeons. I hope we get raids later on.

[@gungan5822]

Wonder if they'll have rolling servers so there's always some servers at the beginning with some at different expansions.

[@Prawnsacrifice]

Time splitters still looks great I agree man I wish rewind was done 😞

[@Nikapocalypse]

It won't happen, but I always thought it would be neat to see an alternate timeline where the cataclysm didn't happen (or any other expansion for that matter). Would be really cool if they brought out the expansions, then split off there.

[@thomhous]

It happen

[@neilsutcliffe5825]

I was thinking about picking up Final Fantasy X, and the same arguments were raised in my head. I absolutely cannot go back to the way I enjoyed games back then. Time wasn't important, endless summer holidays. Maybe when I'm retired and instead of watching Countdown, I'll be playing Blitzball with the bois.

[@joaquinotazu1412]

I love seeing the comments, tried Classic again...after...15 years? This game took my whole adolescence. But, yes, it's slow. And that's rewarding! New WoW...have good stuff, but not this feeling.

[@Saither]

This makes me realize how much of my life was Ironforge back in the day

[@danguillou713]

When I’m waiting for a respawn I’m always humming Leonard Cohens’ ”Waiting for the Miracle”. Except I’m waiting, waiting for the respawn … to appear. Not playing WoW right now, but when I return, as I’m sure I will, it’ll be for Classic.

[@Topper_Harley68]

Well questing with others means that you must divide the XP you get from killing with the others and that can be more XP than you get from finishing the quest. So it is normal to team up on hard/elite quests and do the other one's solo.

[@bohd3]

Ah, WoW Classic, giving my wife and I something in common for 5 years. We intentionally played Paladins so we could Tank, DPS, and Heal whenever we wanted and would frankly be the last ones standing in groups.

[@jld12er30]

i was a pally as well and i remember it being the only class that could take an elite mob of same lvl solo and at about lvl 45 could tank about 4-5 mobs with no problem due to mana efficiency and all the oh shit buttons they had

[@Endarire]

0:36 My high school classmate Anthony Rauth, is that you?!

[@solidghost4525]

Maybe after the Lich expac they will take a different route and do a new expac that goes hard on the classic theme, a whole new direction…a classic direction. New quest and zones and raids and dungeons but just in the classic setting.

[@vincentj7373]

Do most people play WOW with MMO mouse ?

[@Liam-B]

Smaller numbers usually seem to make a bigger difference in RPG's. I like!

[@briandugas1648]

This is how I remember playing WoW. You had to add mods to make it more "modern" if you will. It took me almost a week of questing to get my mount.

[@ross4814]

The first time I played in 2004 I guess, I didn't find Ironforge right away. I think I was level 10 when a party member said "Lets go ride the Tram!" I said what? To say I was in shock over the world I found that night would be putting things mildly.

[@Yomom12388]

You know, I’m aware that retail has lost some of the social aspects of vanilla, but I guess I’m crazy because I kinda like that. Sometimes I wanna be able to do content without having to deal with people and just play the game quietly and relax.

[@jani14jani]

About WOW classic being grindy. Now that TBC classic is out one of my absolute favorite moments so far in TBC classic was getting my epic flying mount. After farming the gold for hours and hours and finally being able to buy it. The feeling was amazing.

[@baal5242]

I Like the paladin, Dual-wielding Frostmournes xD

[@phunkychipmunk5937]

Every FFXI fan seen that Tom cruise laugh meme when he said slow, also the 10 min rare spawns lol

[@UncleDon226]

Damn, I loved this game 15 years ago. I stopped playing right around when the first expansion dropped. No real reason, I just didnt realize that the day before was the last time I would ever play. I was thinking about it recently, and figured the game had gone on without me for too long. Didnt even know classic was a thing. I wonder if my character still exists?

[@ykonratev]

If you can find the same account yeah it exists but with level squishes and stuff you'll be a different level

[@watchthe1369]

The Corpse run for the Alliance in the game was one of those mistakes, but iconic and kind of fun once you figured it out. Make the run in less than X deaths? It is a win....

[@helljumper911]

Are there 10 players together in the dead mines?

[@ruiykkun4739]

You're far too underrated Josh

[@doubleshotdanny]

I play a game called Ascension and its classes warcraft and its beautiful cause im playing a tauren warrior shaman mix which is cool af

[@WirrWicht]

Regarding graphics, they could easily upgrade the texture quality and the quality of the landscapes mesh... both would not change the chunky stile...

[@justanotheruser43]

yo whats that addon at 13:38? i need that asap

[@ripz8679]

How much is wow classic and where can I get it?

[@tomlolbob3182]

when u shown the classes u shown a warrior as a Paladin due to pallys not being able to dualwield ;)

[@RudalPL]

I couldn't get back into WoW Classic. I played from year one, just few months after release and actively played until mid Mists of Pandaria. Cataclysm expansion broke me and I wanted to quit but I soldiered on for the next expansion because of my guild and then I took a long break. Only came back to WoW when new expansion was released to just solo the main quests 'till max level and then just leave 'till next expansion is released. WoW made me both, love and hate playing with other people. I tried a lot of other mmo's and only found one good enough to stick with (TESO) but overall mmo's made me hate playing with others. Recent WOW expansion only make me stay away from the game more and more. I think the Dragon expansion will be my last one as I don't believe Bli$$ard will make it a good experience.

[@AGoat1971]

WOW vanilla was amazing. Spent so much time maxing out all of my gear. A soon as Burning Crusade came out all that gear was worthless as rare items were better in BC, that was the end for me.