Should You Pull Tifa & Lucia Christmas Banner? ~ Final Fantasy 7 Ever Crisis

[@Maraaass]

Good advice, Octo. I've chosen Cloud, Sephiroth and Aerith as my team and I've been working only on them so I'm skipping those Christmas banners. As f2p/tiny spender I can't afford to invest into all charactes so I'm focusing only on them. If I fail to clear some content because I didn't pull on these banners, I'll accept it but I rather save my crystals for a future Seph/Cloud banner that may help me more. However I think Christmas event should have started when FF9 collab ends. People were pulling on FF9 minutes before they announced the Christmas event appearing so early and us having 4 banners feels like they just want to pressure people into spending more and more money.

[@justinf1751]

I started with Cloud/Tifa/Matt which turned into Cloud/Seph/Matt and now everyone else is WAY behind. He gave some excellent advice. It’ll take months to get my Aerith up to speed now. Listen to every word he ever says ever is my advice ^^

[@darkartemiss9941]

It would be great if you could make a chart with the best "wishlists" based on how you want to use certain character. For example Thunder Cloud, Water Cloud, Healing Aerith, etc. Awesome videos!

[@ForgottenShinobi11]

Important note Cloud Buster sword is back in the crisis shop.

[@peidei2vezes]

I pulled both Tifa and Lucia since I didn't pull for ice kekroth so Ice arkanum to my girl seemed like an ez choice and first earth arkanum/first banner skin for Lucia is no joke. And honestly for some reason I felt so good pulling for this that even not getting lucky with 5★ bummed me. I got some ob6 from wishlist and 2 huge Element dps increase 🎉 ALSO I LOVE CHRISTMAS SO MUCH, THE COSTUMES LOOK SOOOOOO FREEEEAAAKIIIIING GOOOD!!!

[@uiberonwenndel3061]

Wow, DFFOO's closing probably hit octo hard xD But its a good advice, have fun while the game is open, waifu/husbando > meta Edit: This video helped me more than I thought, the FOMO from not getting anything is hard, but I realized I wanna main Cloud Sephiroth Aerith ("how original", i know) and Zack (in more of a support capacity), so I should really focus on those 4 characters to get stronger. If I pull for everyone, I wont have a truly banger team. Thanks Octo!

[@Courtannica]

It's the truth for sure! I absolutely *whaled* on KHUx. Thought we were getting an 8 year anniversary event and BOOM I get hit with the game's ending. :(((

[@aurumarma5711]

I hope they add some kind of anniversary blue crystal shop where you can buy the prior years banner items with crystals.

[@reaperhowls]

anyone else have terrible luck with the stamps. I’ve gotten x 1 on the last 10 pulls.

[@zenithfor3058]

I got a new account with the steam release and trust me, I am honing down on a Earth team. I am so happy with Lucia's new weapon and outfit

[@digimonresearch]

So to clarify.. When you said you should be building your DPS character, we are hoping the DPS character can get more arcanums and focus on them right? So if Cloud and Sepiroth are my main DPS, I should focus on Arcanum costumes for the two of them rather than arcanum costumes that appear on other characters. is that right?

[@iBIackieChan]

How important is physical/magical ability potency? I’m trying to balance that stat as well ass elemental potency and patk/matk

[@rcade6387]

Monthly Buster sword added in medal shop.

[@Courtannica]

I wish they would be a countdown/time limit for those in crisis shop D:

[@efraincaraballo8942]

Very good advice and video! I have actually been doing this for my Ice Sephiroth and he is looking every good. Since I wanted use Seph even when the enemy is resistant to Ice, I decided to go for the FF9 costume and that way I have a character I can always use for magic. The down side of this is that there is going to be content where the enemy is resistant to magic and that is where I'm suffering, but eventually I will focus on a physical character the same way I did with Seph and hopefully be fully covered.

[@agidnis1234]

sephs ffix weap is good, i just hope we can put it in the wishlist after the banner ends.

[@Courtannica]

​@agidnis1234 I keep hearing the FF9 weps aren't coming back. :((( I went all in for Tifa. Kinda wished I would've waited for Garnerith cause I used a CHUNK of jewels. I mean.... I might still go for her I just haven't decided yet. Lol

[@PJenkinss]

I see your level 6 Zidane's Sword and here I am with a fully completed stamp card and it never dropped ONCE :'(

[@Talezi1]

damn kuja zepi broke the meta (for now) but im still hoooooolding for yuffie

[@jace743]

Nice thorough review of the options for each banner character! I’m planning to wait until the next banner, just to make sure it isn’t going to be something that I want more. If it’s not, I will be pulling for Lucia’s outfit and weapon.

[@misterwuggles]

maybe this'll change in the near future but personally i think ob6 is going to be a bit overkill for a good while unless you want to work towards being able to clear crash/ex3. if you just want to be able to get the rewards out of all the content i think going for a good variety of ob1 to reliably cover all elements and get your arcanum dps to like i dunno 2500+ atk or so right now and then slowly grow it as time goes on is probably plenty power. i mean just look at how much you've able to clear with no overboost at all. i do like the idea of going for long term goals and future proofing and that cloud build looks juicy af but i just feel the cost to benefit ratio isn't super great with focusing right now. obv though i absolutely agree with how you open and close these--apply the information you learn to your own goals and how you want to play and enjoy the game while you're still enjoying it! also absolutely the chance we'll see some crazy power creep too so would suck to no longer be able to clear stuff in that instance if you spread it a bit too thin.

[@TheZabbitt]

It'll probably help if I spend some of my 106k crystals (I'm ignoring the entire FFIX banners), but I've had Murasame wishlisted on every banner I've pulled on since the beginning and it's only OB2. And since I already have Sephiroth's Edged Wing and costume, looks like I'm skipping this banner too lol. Basically, seeing that OB6 Murasame is making me drool

[@menghao737]

I'm thinking the start of the earth banners means we might be getting Garuda as well as Titan and Leviathan when they release new summons. We started with three, so it kind of makes sense they would drop three new summons whenever they eventually drop new summons, which hopefully will happen sometime in the next few months.

[@Ticks6i9]

morning octo what a great analysis banner fatigue is perfect way to say it oh yeah hi mom

[@emersonmonteiro4513]

Que isso, mano? Como que vocês podem ter tanta sorte assim? A espada do Cloud está na minha lista de desejo desde o banner dele e até hoje só tenho duas dups. Única arma que eu tenho próximo de OB 6 é a da Aeris e nem ponho essa porcaria na lista. Té doido....eles devem mexer nas contas de quem faz conteúdo no KZbin.....não é possível

[@XMS1212X]

Wow so you didn’t feel against non weak lightning say it be good overall to have sub weapon to have stance physical damage weapons ? Edit: rewatched your should you pull sephiroth build and never mind you explain its negligible gain going full physical stance so long as they aren’t lightning resistance, thats crazy

[@InDzienInTampa]

Thank you Octo for the bombardment of intel. It's clear that you're the SME of this game and emerging content. Also love the Balamb Garden background music. Very "higher education" ;) You're on the bell because I know you're the leader on this property, and mad respect to balancing this craziness with your young family, especially during the holiday season. Props!

[@VapourXY]

As a.. kind of f2p player lol (I do buy the season passes but that’s it) Im all for waifu and husbando costumes and getting f2p obtainables. Meta is just current meta. Game might shutdown, but game could also still thrive, and when it does, Gacha games like this, I can see it all balances out, as we pull more and more copies as we go. As long as they don’t over powerscale stuff in the future haha. Imagine weaps in the future just giving 100+ attack stats at 5* hahaha. It’s more fun to put stuff together to be powerful than be p2w, or future content to win.

[@jfbgraphics10]

Should I pull for amarants claw if I already have the Xmas gloves? I do not have anything OD at the amount all base weapons Tifa is my main dps

[@lostwhovian7427]

I truly, truly regret pulling on the crossover banners now.

[@Courtannica]

I regret pulling for Tifa instead of Aerith for the ff9.... cause I totally want this Tifa instead

[@BakuGaming]

Im new player, i gonna pull for both costumes, do i have to stop pull after getting costume ? or go on to get more dupe weapon? thx for the content

[@Brixgale]

so the recommended advice is always stop on costume as once the banner ends, future banners will have these weapons in the wish list and you can just add the weapons you need on there. The only exception to this so far has been the FF9 crossover banners due to them explicitly saying these weapons won't be added to future banners, in which is more of a self judgement call of what you need or how willing are you to commit to that banner.

[@BakuGaming]

@@Brixgale thx for your advice

[@BaneDane_JB]

One exception for pulling for this banner, as somone with Ice sepiroth If you are invested in bald eagle, you can use Tifa's gloves as a sub weapon for LUcia (since said gun is physical) IE Lucia will be using Ice down, but also likely a blizzard blow using the 30% ice slot on her bald eagle, whenever the debuff is already up and since the gun and gloves are both phsyical ice you can still use them on her, without affecting Sephiroth (who will using magic sub weapons) The only real problem here is split scaling so if you have a buffer/healer you will need to choose what/who they target (unless the enemies weak to either, in which case Aerith healer W umbrella both stat down is perfect to debuff them for both their physical and magic attacks) [Of course this is assuming you are actually just targeting Lucia's earth gear for those setups, and ok with potentially getting TIfa's gloves accidently

[@snekky55]

Happy 5th Twitch Anniversary 🥳🎉

[@tophersandwich1613]

I want to pull on this banner but I can't because I just spent the last of my crystals trying to get Amaran'ts Claws to OB6. I want to make my Tifa my build around character. I really want the devs to just confirm if they will ever put banner costumes into the Gear Voucher exchange at some point. I don't care if it's like 6 months later. Just confirmation. Also. This event sucks. Time gated for no reason. Very little gems in the log in bonus. Honestly they should have done Barret instead of Tifa.

[@badboy250984]

If is Barret or Red 13 it makes me feel better. I gonna skip this banner since i spend all or most crystals on FF9 seph banner.

[@menghao737]

I think a lot of us wanted Santa Barret and Reindeer RedXIII, what a shame. Instead, we get more cheese. The costumes look great, Tifa's is very cute, but what a missed opportunity!

[@Courtannica]

​@@menghao737Reindeer Red would have been so cute

[@JokiW]

Hi Octo! I think you mentioned making a vid about the pulls on the cloud crossover banner and your conclusions from that. I was thinking on spending more on that banner. It sounded like you were having some regrets, but on the other hand your Cloud looks like a god. Did you make that vid already, or if not, is it still in the plans? Thanks! ☃️

[@angeloclemente3360]

After looking at the status of my account, my mind said go for Lucia, my heart said Tifa. I was very lucky with my 33k because I was able to get both costumes … I definitely won’t quit the game very soon 😂

[@seralucii]

You're so lucky. I spent 33k just to get Kujaroth and am broke on crystals because of it

[@Courtannica]

​@@seraluciibut do ya love your Kujaroth?

[@seralucii]

@@Courtannica Of course! Young Sephiroth is such a little darling, the Kuja outfit is really stylish and has a useful effekt. It also makes sense for me as he is in my main team unlike Tifa. But her outfit and weapon would have gone well with Sephs ice build

[@Caffeinated_Warrior]

Is Zidane's sword not going to be available for the wishlist after the event ends? If so: I may want to attempt getting a copy of it now over the holiday banner.

[@Courtannica]

I keep hearing the FF9 weps won't be coming back.

[@jbrezzy5925]

am i the only that hates the grind on these events??? im still stuck on ff9 event havent even maxed my lucia weapon

[@luisaviles567]

tell me to pull tifa yes yes YES

[@me_a_weeb5619]

How do you get gear/costumes? Is it only through stamps? If so, how do I get gear from previous banners like the summer skins?

[@selectivevisions]

the worse thing about this game is feeling like you have to learn a new language to read the ability descriptions once you get used to it it gets easier but man it was confusing at first

[@SoulRaiNightz]

i will go for Lucia cuz I have no earth builds at this point

[@Hartefact]

I think that the combo of Vizier Staff + Jiggy + flex is fantastic on lucia. I've really started to push having an element + MATK OR element + PATK AND element + HP AND element + ATK to push up my elements.

[@dripy9159]

So is it worth it to pull these weapons when we already have seph ice and Lucia ice? Are the costumes good? So mainly we’re going for the ice and earth arcanum

[@marcushedengran1010]

So the best strategy is to have for example all Sepiroth weapon on the “wish” list to try max him out as the main magical DPS. Then move on to the next person ?

[@SurgeX25]

Not all his weapons but all weapons that compliment his build which can be either Ice Build, Wind Build or NonEleMag Build since those 3 atm are what he can do outfit wise. Also really depends on your team's too but generally that's what he means by focusing one dps build on wishlist

[@monkeyandtangerines3621]

I got tifa costime for one reason it's sexy and i had a crush on her no lie since i was kid 🤣🤣🤣

[@UltimaLuminaire]

I have the unfortunate honor of having a lot of Barn Swallows thrown at me.

[@piecrisis]

What about weapons with magic attack potency for Lucia? Didn’t see you mention any of these.

[@david-in4vt]

Gacha looks cool and game looks good. But I just can’t. But you are right. If it doesn’t shut down. We will get bored and frustrated if not whaling. Overall have fun and good luck to all who play.

[@ooostarwolfooo4527]

Dont you think its more important to go into boost stance ability/atk/patk than trying to max patk cause its only a 10% increase whereas the boost you get from adding a stance weapon can improve damage like 30% or more

[@SurgeX25]

yes of course he's mentioned this with sun umbrella and other choices! But usually we have MATK/PATK maxed out with two weapons then other subs will focus on other R abilities

[@ooostarwolfooo4527]

@@SurgeX25 yeah but what I'm asking is at what threshold is it actually more effective to stop going up on patk and focus on another boost cause you can't have it all with only 5 weapons even at max

[@SurgeX25]

@ooostarwolfooo4527 It honestly depends on the characters, Cloud for example his main hand and secondary can have weapons with both PATK and usually that is enough to get the lvl 7 PATK (assuming you have proper overboost levels) which now leaves 3 sub weapons where you can put anything else, ATK, PHYS BOOST POT, BOOST ABILITY POT or "X" ELEM POT all open but that is Cloud. It really depends on characters and there weapons which is why Lucia is in an interesting spot atm with her Earth Pot.

[@ooostarwolfooo4527]

@@SurgeX25 I'm not sure you are getting what I mean when I say effective threshold

[@SurgeX25]

@ooostarwolfooo4527 I get what you mean now but then at that point just your mainhand alone is enough PATK but alot of weapons with good R abilities for elements also have a patk/matk so eventually you'll hit max.

[@idksomething274]

What are people using for wind Sephiroth? I think I only have a Frostblade Arcanum for him.

[@JulienC42]

Was during Halloween banner, gear with +20% wind damage (instead of 35%) and a physical wind weapon. Not the best ...

[@markkennethcervantes2531]

The powercreep is real 😆

[@Baye1980]

Tifa weapon is called Holy Flame Gloves but has ice element. We haven’t gotten fire based weapon banner yet, but we literally have had every other element. I don’t get it 🤦🏾‍♂️🤔😅

[@unskillfullymasterful]

my motor drive almost to OB 10 lol . . it wouldve been nice if her xmas weapon was a atk boost rather than p. attack , but heck hopefully they raise the p. atk potency level at some point then i have no more complaints . it was OB 7 forever and i just pulled 2 from the xmas wishlist

[@seraphin01]

kinda exactly as expected.. they gave us vanity banners with FF9 that were mostly meh to bad honestly.. just great looking though.. and now they give us the actual good items with the arcanum gears that you actually NEED.. We knew they were gonna do that and I'm sure if they do collab in the future or crossover etc they'll do the exact same thing again.. give limited items poor use since they know we'll want them and the actual good items will be the non vanity ones mostly.. oh well, will try to get Lucia now and hopefully tifa next

[@Raka1890]

Wish I had started the game sooner so I didn't miss out on Murasame armor. :( Would be nice if they gave us a way to get the armors still, but probably won't happen because the armors are the selling point of most banners.

[@SurgeX25]

I expect reruns very soon since steam client is soon more new players will join

[@BaneDane_JB]

They'd be leaving money on the table to not do reruns eventually (and they did reruns in Nier [their last game]) so like that game just be patient and im sure it'll come back eventually

[@dyju1]

I do think getting a Mastery/Arcanum for each element is incredibly important. I've been shot in the foot so hard by simply not having the water Cloud outfit.

[@SourKraut311]

What you’re saying makes a lot of sense… but Santa Tifa

[@SmellyOctopus]

Agreed lol

[@spontaneousJei]

FF8 Balamb Garden ❤️

[@GuerreiroAventureiro]

After Sephiroth Kuja i have to skip if i want to get mercy pull in future banners on my interest. My advise is go for Lucia. You gonna need it if you want to boost Earth element.

[@jayfergie8420]

4 damn banners and 3 events i cant do em all at the sametime. As soon as i get sephiroth (KUJA) Costume ill go for Xmas banner and maybe try to tifa costume still im skipping garnet i need a chance to breathe

[@Courtannica]

Sameeee. I'm still not done farming black waltz and now there's no co op for it. D:

[@charlesedwinbooks]

its so hard to play to build powerful builds, when Im also supposed to play for fun lol Im a casually spender, but ooph on all these banners. I just like to collect the wallpapers / costumes But then have Max overboost+20 on steiner and vivi weapons My aerith does have a full Red overboost on her summer umbrella level 90

[@9GBStation]

Absolutely, waiting for Aerith next one. 😍

[@daisyandlani4481]

Cant wait for the new years banner next month

[@jonathanmatthews8862]

You really should try to focus on one physical DPS, one magical DPS, and one healer/support. You only have so many sub weapons to go around so it’s better to have one DPS take all of the PAtk boosts and the other take the MAtk boosts. I use Tifa as my healer/support because I got so many of her first banner gloves that they are maxed out. So I will probably get the costume and bounce from this banner.

[@Lionheart198]

What about your debuffer?

[@ThenosM_]

I think I’m gonna pass on these banners. The costumes look great, as usual, but I can’t afford to pull on anything since I pulled on the first FF9 banner (and got absolutely shafted).

[@Courtannica]

Dang. Who did you pull for? I spent like 30k jewels just for Tifa and was totally broke after that D:

[@ThenosM_]

@@Courtannica I’ve got ~15k rn, but I spent about 27-30k on the Cloud/Tifa ff9 banner. Only have OB1 on Zidane’s sword and 5* Tifa’s weapon. 2 of the 3 5* event weapons I got were guaranteed from the stamp card.

[@vintagevirus1564]

Tifa BOOP

[@thenegus5053]

Love the content. Do you think they're going to rerun any costumes?

[@SmellyOctopus]

No clue really but I hope they do!

[@SurgeX25]

I feel like they will but when is the question could be soon with steam client coming out or could be in a month or two

[@reydez84]

Gonna try for tifas stuff, there is a lot of earth pot weapons already but still lucias is good tho just not enough currency lmao

[@nl8784]

Wow u OB6 Zidane sword Grats

[@zeonsteel]

Honestly with practices like this, I doubt this game is gonna last long, even Whales need people to play with.

[@lens_hunter]

Pulled for Tifa but I dont use Lucia so i didnt go for her.

[@MikojinToyunda]

I'm sad, it's the first time that I want both costume (I don't care about meta, I make do with what I have) But I'm not even sure I'll have enough blue cristals for just one costume 😢 I hesitate and finally choose to pull for the Seph costume last week... I like it so I don't really regret it, but I was unlucky on stamp (10 x1 and 1 x2) so I burnt 33000 blue cris'. Now I only have 20k left... I hope I can at least get the Tifa one...

[@farodin9255]

Spend all my crystals into the Tifa & Cloud FFIX Banner ... Now I want the new Tifa Costume but I can't afford it ;_;

[@Riposte8]

I wish they gave Lucina a AoE Heal. Would make for a godlike ice team.

[@spontaneousJei]

I wish I got Clouds outfit 😔

[@xthemarket]

That FF8 music is topic notch.

[@Lionheart198]

Cloud and aerith are a given but Tifa is so valuable compared to seph. I will drop seph for tifa if yuffie is not a debuffer.

[@thelastchoi6217]

Da tifa booty 🎉

[@deathinc]

too many banners too fast. they must be desperate for the money.

[@TheKrempist]

first world problems amiright?

[@Novastrom]

Crazy fast!

[@lens_hunter]

I'm fine with it. You don't have to pull on everything.

[@menghao737]

​@@lens_hunterIt does suck though, especially for those of us who want to collect the costumes. You can get 12 1 stamps in a row, I should know, I just got 8 in a row on this new banner. So if your luck is terrible, you'll need a minimum of 36k crystals to get a single costume. If you're buying, that's two hundred plus dollars worth of crystals, if you're f2p, that's months of saving and skipping banners. That's not good. That's pretty greedy in my opinion, and ironically it makes no business sense imo. They would be selling so many more packs to more people, if the crystals were more affordable and the odds a little better.

[@justinf1751]

They actually are and have been since FF15, almost bought out 3 times

[@VidulaSaix]

Octo, while you're right man you've gotta stop starting every recent video with "the game will shut down one day" We all know that, but constantly hearing it is just demoralizing.

[@helko1]

It's not demoralising in the slightest, it's a reminder to have the right mindset that you should enjoy the time you have. Too many people new to gacha games in the west come in with the wrong mindset and get frustrated when shutdown happens. Octo encouraging a healthy mindset from the start all the time is refreshing, and more content creators should encourage this, it makes the overall experience better for the player.

[@seralucii]

With the way they push monetarisation/passes in your face at every opportunity, take a month to give tiny story parts when they advertised the game as giving us the whole compilation story and costumes not being available after a few weeks, I don't think the game will last more than a year if things don't change

[@Courtannica]

​@@helko1Exactly

[@blu8762]

they are bad lol im gonna wait for the next banner and see i might go back to crossover and get aerith costume if its still there

[@Reclvimer]

I think everyone is aware the game will shut down someday so you don’t really gotta emphasize it every video. Kills motivation for some

[@katzezouk]

Agree is every video telling you the game is going to shut down. We all know we are going to die but don't want to tell me every day.

[@johnbatista1009]

dont think whale and pull lol

[@slimak8888]

zero hype weapons and skins, easy skip and save for something good

[@rosegokublack9863]

Lol yes this game will def shut down 1 day

[@wokeaf1337]

When i leave ur youtube videos i always have that bad taste in my mouth that the game can shut down at any given time...the thought is depressive. I looked at the revenue numbers and last month FF7: EC got $3.7mil, meanwhile their other game Noir Reincarnation makes no cash whatsoever in comparison(= $247k)and they still dont shut it down.

[@SurgeX25]

only reason he mentions that is because two games we played before both shutdown eventually KHUx and now DFFOO where people have spent, which is why he also pushes f2p a lot however it is on you. I spent on this game myself knowing it might eventually EoS (won't be soon) but he's just warning people to just enjoy the game now and until that time comes!

[@wokeaf1337]

@@SurgeX25 Maybe it is just me but that doesnt help to be reminded every single time when there is a new banner.

[@Courtannica]

​@@wokeaf1337He's just saying do/get whatever characters you love/want! It's a game at the end of the day and the whole point *is* to have fun! (And this is coming from someone who whaled hard AF on KHUx)

[@Courtannica]

​@@SurgeX25Yup. And First Soldier only made it, what, 6 months? Before shut down? Something like that