Should You Remove The SIM In Your Car?

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Naomi Brockwell TV

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@Shifty-t5w
@Shifty-t5w 6 ай бұрын
The biggest problem is ppl saying "ive got nothing to hide" It drives me wild.
@Gripmagic
@Gripmagic 6 ай бұрын
Definitely the craziest excuse to accept tyranny ever
@geobus3307
@geobus3307 6 ай бұрын
Ignorance
@thekennethofoz3594
@thekennethofoz3594 6 ай бұрын
My reply to that is always "Please give me all the details of your bank accounts, and I'll put an ad in the paper listing them".
@abvmoose87
@abvmoose87 6 ай бұрын
They are the lowest on the tree, they think that will save them and when they realise theyre not and get the shock of a life time it will be way too late
@LSeverusPertinax
@LSeverusPertinax 6 ай бұрын
A mind that makes that argument is a mind incapable of grasping any distinction between Secrecy and Seclusion.
@td67gto18
@td67gto18 6 ай бұрын
They need to pass a law requiring companies that collect and sell our data to pay a royalty to us monthly.
@CrazyBear65
@CrazyBear65 6 ай бұрын
"Laws" are a joke.
@hustleyourknowledge
@hustleyourknowledge 6 ай бұрын
​@@CrazyBear65 crazy bear your 100% correct this tec 💩 s all over FERPA laws these protect students of all ages HIPPA laws protect your medical information and what about minors the most vulnerable of the population and the laws that protect 18 and unders data
@tw8464
@tw8464 6 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right.
@theairstig9164
@theairstig9164 6 ай бұрын
They did. It subsidises the initial sale price
@billschlafly4107
@billschlafly4107 6 ай бұрын
"They"...didn't get elected to protect your interests. "They" were put there to do the opposite.
@jimr3713
@jimr3713 6 ай бұрын
There needs to be a class action suit against every car manufacturer that collects and sells your private data without your knowledge to stop this .
@p5eudo883
@p5eudo883 5 ай бұрын
Class actions don't do enough. Some law firm gets a lot of money. Consumers get an insignificant amount of money. The corporation continues to do the same or similar things, but finds ways to protect themselves from further class action suits in the future. We need fines based on annual revenue. Something like a beefed up version of what the EU has done. Rough idea: If a corporation breaks the rules, they pay out 20% of their annual revenue to the people they victimized. If there is any difficulty in accomplishing this, the executives, board members, and shareholders have their stocks used to make it right to the victims. Executives and board members also have their pay and severance packages completely diverted to compensating victims. If they choose to jump ship, they get prison time. If we have consequences like that, corporations will be terrified to violate our rights, and we will see actual progress.
@phazerboy
@phazerboy 5 ай бұрын
According to Lehto's Law channel people have sued Honda and Ford. The courts sided with the manufacturer in both suits.
@yourdaddy1512
@yourdaddy1512 5 ай бұрын
Against every company collecting data on people.
@christianmbabazi9722
@christianmbabazi9722 5 ай бұрын
So every carmaker is being sued 😅
@yourdaddy1512
@yourdaddy1512 5 ай бұрын
@@christianmbabazi9722 yeah
@alanevans5353
@alanevans5353 3 ай бұрын
This is one of the many reasons I'm very happy with my truck from the 70s. Older vehicles don't have these kinds of problems.
@whomwilliams5091
@whomwilliams5091 2 ай бұрын
Yes you do. They have a way to watch you no matter how old your vehicle is. The dash board. They use infrared technology to spy.
@geoh7777
@geoh7777 Ай бұрын
My last car was a 1987 BMW 325is. I bought it cheap and put a limited amount of money in it to fix it up and then drove it for over 10 years. I got too crippled and old to drive it, so sold it to an eager, young guy. I came to the conclusion that a budget of $25-30,000 for full rebuild of the car would be better than buying a new car. This BMW did not get stellar gas mileage, though. These and other brand older cars are still available. Ebay, craiglist to start your search..
@christiroseify
@christiroseify Ай бұрын
I drive an old Jeep and pay the cost of "classic car" repairs to stay away from being tracked.
@DebbieHuss-g3q
@DebbieHuss-g3q 27 күн бұрын
True that, I've a 48 Chrysler.
@itsmeinarkansas
@itsmeinarkansas 17 күн бұрын
I loved cars and trucks from the late 60s through the 80s but if you can find one that still runs or could run it costs almost as much as a brand new car.
@mustangracer5124
@mustangracer5124 3 ай бұрын
35 yr. mechanic here.. just use the 12v outlet and an adapter if you want to charge your cell phone, ALL usb ports transmit and RECIEVE data and can easily be compromised.
@laughingdaffodils5450
@laughingdaffodils5450 Ай бұрын
I do that, it's the best practice for sure. However, you can also use the regular USB ports safely, just make sure you use a *charge only* cable, and test it before using it.
@GraemePayne1967Marine
@GraemePayne1967Marine Ай бұрын
There are also USB data blocking adapters that allow power charging but block any data transfer.
@TheBigJohny
@TheBigJohny Ай бұрын
you can give it a condom, problem is elsewhere. its the microphones, and shit and 5G modems always on ...but its about not having choice and no way to audit this shit
@Omizuke
@Omizuke Ай бұрын
Yeah, I have a lighter charger. Everyone on my family don't understand why I refuse to plug my phone into the car. Or even link it through Bluetooth. Something I've refuse on every new car. Even tho I did with my old one. My old car was a 97 one, the Bluetooth from the radio which was added separately, only connected to the radio. It was basically a dumb radio. Of my family only my brothers I can connect my phone for music. Because it's through a 3.5mm jack. And I used my old phone which I use as music player. LG V40 which still has a headphone jack. And a good one at that. I carry my own phone chargers, lighter and AC ones. And a battery back up. People plugging their phones on every USB they find disturb me.
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 27 күн бұрын
That depends on the car. My Subaru was made before Android Auto was a thing. Its USB ports work with thumb drives and phones in mass storage mode to stream MP3s to the head unit. That's all they do. Not that Subaru is some sort of champion of privacy or anything, but the tech to spy on drivers just wasn't there when my car was made.
@cmozoo
@cmozoo 6 ай бұрын
It's despicable that you PAY for the car and then the company uses YOUR PURCHASE to rake money off you by selling bits of your life.
@robertsmith2956
@robertsmith2956 6 ай бұрын
Wouldn't be so bad you got the car for a couple thousand.
@TheShytallica
@TheShytallica 6 ай бұрын
Then let’s force them to pay us demand 50% for all retroactive sales and all future sales
@anon556
@anon556 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheShytallica yeah, good luck with that one 😂😂
@aygwm
@aygwm 6 ай бұрын
Privacy is a human right.
@modernNeanderthal800
@modernNeanderthal800 6 ай бұрын
If a person is dumb enough to buy a car from a dealership especially a newer car -- they are dumb enough to have their information stolen
@robincross4625
@robincross4625 6 ай бұрын
We were looking for a replacement car. One dealer had what we wanted. Even though I was going to write a check for the car, they handed us a pile of papers to sign. I stopped signing when I realized one was an application for credit. They didn't want to let me take all the forms but I insisted so that MY lawyer could go over them. I called them back and refused to buy the car. One paper would have allowed them to sell any and all information on any of the forms. I can't say NO enough times.
@Douglas_Gillette
@Douglas_Gillette 6 ай бұрын
Please share the name of this dealership.
@collectorguy3919
@collectorguy3919 6 ай бұрын
That is an excellent point. More people need to insist on walking away with legal documents so they have an opportunity to at least read comfortably.
@Bdamazyn
@Bdamazyn 6 ай бұрын
Good for you! I was on a used car lot recently and the salesperson would not show a car until they got a credit application filled out and signed. Ridiculous.
@chrisrageNJ
@chrisrageNJ 6 ай бұрын
​​@@Jennifer-nz2sssecond amendment is the right to bear arms...
@DavidNotSolomon
@DavidNotSolomon 6 ай бұрын
Buy in the private market and pay cash. Get a signed receipt.
@ronbelanger26
@ronbelanger26 6 ай бұрын
Right before covid I went to buy a new pickup. Told the dealership that I wanted the truck but they would have to remove the connection to the internet. They said ford would never use you data against you and I said keep your truck then. I couldn't even get a regular remore starter. Internet only. I never bought the truck. These people can't be trusted.
@jamesbyrd468
@jamesbyrd468 6 ай бұрын
For the cost of a new truck, I can rebuild my 25 year old Chevy 4-5 times.
@freedomthinker3041
@freedomthinker3041 6 ай бұрын
These same parties also swore on their parents that black boxes would never be used against the owner. Of course they lied and are using it for many things including to prosecute the public. Any fool in the public that believes corporations, greedy criminals elite and especially these parasites call themselves so-called government actors are just that...FOOLS!!!!
@debbiedogs1
@debbiedogs1 6 ай бұрын
I do NOT want a vehicle with this surveillance crap. I have an 18-year old Mercury Mariner, I wonder what it has? Might have to buy something older and pay more to keep it going. smh
@davidmann4533
@davidmann4533 6 ай бұрын
I don’t need a remote starter😂
@lion5452
@lion5452 5 ай бұрын
Trust no one !!
@michelleday3105
@michelleday3105 5 ай бұрын
Wow! I had absolutely NO IDEA! We recently bought a new car. While at the dealer, we overheard a person ask a salesperson where the sim was located. The man left without buying the car because they laughed at him. I’m disgusted! Thank you so much for this vital information
@NaomiBrockwellTV
@NaomiBrockwellTV 5 ай бұрын
Good on him for asking!! They probably laughed because they didn't realize there was a SIM, or even an eSIM!
@christopherjoyce9788
@christopherjoyce9788 3 ай бұрын
Most can’t be removed their built into the main computer ECM
@billalumni9142
@billalumni9142 2 ай бұрын
@@NaomiBrockwellTV Or even what a SIM was.
@aaadamt964
@aaadamt964 4 ай бұрын
There will be another "cash for clunkers" type program soon. We all love that they can track and shut down our stolen vehicle's with an infotainment system in them. Thats all good until they shut your car off for back taxes, unpaid fines, something you said on social media...
@christiroseify
@christiroseify Ай бұрын
No one has enough cash for my old clunker...lol
@TheBigJohny
@TheBigJohny Ай бұрын
yeah, if the gov could have been trusted then OK. but this could be used by hackers. very bad idea. even the chinese president can kill you then...
@Spolt_main
@Spolt_main 6 ай бұрын
Louis Rossman has gone over this before, he explained how the car companies would make ads that basically said that independent repair providers could snoop through your data and collect you information fpr stalking. I always wondered why that data was kept in the first place. Now I know. Luckily my car is too old for this stuff.
@PumpkinKingXXIII
@PumpkinKingXXIII 6 ай бұрын
Yep, after watching his video I ended up disconnecting by onstar module and my phone is not connected and never been to it.
@TryMeFoolYT
@TryMeFoolYT 6 ай бұрын
is it easy?​@@PumpkinKingXXIII
@PumpkinKingXXIII
@PumpkinKingXXIII 6 ай бұрын
@@TryMeFoolYT it was on mine, on my truck their was one wire under the dash right by the center console. I didn’t even have to pull a panel.
@robertsmith2956
@robertsmith2956 6 ай бұрын
you got to wonder why Hertz isn't making bank selling the data of all their renters who plug their phone into the rental. Instead they resort to gas charges for Tesla rentals.
@tomjones2348
@tomjones2348 6 ай бұрын
I drive a 2002:-)
@danpatterson8009
@danpatterson8009 6 ай бұрын
What a company or agency says about "valuing your privacy" means nothing unless they prove it.
@bc4yt
@bc4yt 6 ай бұрын
Companies that aren't harvesting your data don't need to make such statements 👍
@MrPir84free
@MrPir84free 6 ай бұрын
No they "VALUE" your privacy - for whatever they can sell to the highest bidder(s) .. Not really your privacy, but any data that they can collect..
@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC
@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC 6 ай бұрын
Likewise, they receive money to "share" your information with "trusted partners" which cannot be trusted.
@therationalanarchist
@therationalanarchist 6 ай бұрын
No it means they have placed a valuation on your privacy and it was probably only a couple dollars. They value that.
@tw8464
@tw8464 6 ай бұрын
It usually means the exact opposite.
@sntsander
@sntsander 6 ай бұрын
My car was built in 1991, no wifi, sim card, OBD-II port, android auto. Safety equipment includes brakes and seat belts. 😊
@Gripmagic
@Gripmagic 6 ай бұрын
As it should be
@cobrafpv2334
@cobrafpv2334 6 ай бұрын
Android auto is the same thing 😂 if you use that you are giving up all that info to alphabet
@AnthonyGoodley
@AnthonyGoodley 6 ай бұрын
1984 Ford F150. Most high tech thing on my truck is the carburetor.
@chublez
@chublez 6 ай бұрын
If you think driving some old junk isn't a trade off instead of changing consumer protection laws so we can drive what we want yer part of the problem.
@Peaches-i2i
@Peaches-i2i 6 ай бұрын
@@cobrafpv2334 Learn to read
@nolongeramused8135
@nolongeramused8135 5 ай бұрын
My wife asked me why I was suddenly upgrading my 2002 car to include a whole host of features that would have been included on a new one: "I'm not getting a new car until they make it illegal for them to collect data on you and sell it." Also, I really like my current vehicle, it just needs some tweaks.
@christopherjoyce9788
@christopherjoyce9788 3 ай бұрын
The worse part is they sell your data directly to your insurance companies. They then use it to penalize you for the smallest things
@TimDrake-vn3wo
@TimDrake-vn3wo 2 ай бұрын
​@christopherjoyce9788 Do you remember on-star ? My suburban seems to be reporting my driving habits to the insurance company , but I think that my current plan is down to $17.00 for 6 months now . I'm slow but I'm steady . My car spying still isn't acceptable .
@NintendoCapriSun
@NintendoCapriSun 19 күн бұрын
That stuff about the sim cards is crazy! With how difficult it is to get to them, sounds like they're the ones that have something to hide.
@garybarnes4169
@garybarnes4169 6 ай бұрын
"Be aware there that there are no easy fixes to car surveillance." - There are. My three vehicles are a 1967 Land Rover, 1972 VW Camper and 1979 MG Midget.
@Userxxx840
@Userxxx840 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, but very few people are willing to go back to an old pile.
@Elemblue2
@Elemblue2 5 ай бұрын
No thats not a fix. You just havent entered the timezone the problem lives in yet. One day youll be dragged in. They can wait.
@garybarnes4169
@garybarnes4169 5 ай бұрын
@@Elemblue2 Not if I die before they manage that.
@regnadkcin6702
@regnadkcin6702 5 ай бұрын
That is not a way to fix a modern car from collecting data, that is just driving an old car.
@garybarnes4169
@garybarnes4169 5 ай бұрын
@@regnadkcin6702 As workarounds go, though, it's pretty good. Plus insurance is cheap, I don't pay road tax, and as for depreciation, the Land Rover is probably worth three times what I paid in 1996.
@JBG1968
@JBG1968 6 ай бұрын
It’s not just cars . Think of all the things that are sold today that connect to the internet and are accessible through apps . Ring doorbells , refrigerators, washer / dryers . Things I have often wondered “ why on earth would I need to access this thing from anywhere but at home .
@baddudecornpop7328
@baddudecornpop7328 6 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. Most “smart home” devices are cringey as hell, barely useful, and add nothing to the original’s functionality that was needed.
@ernielansford8710
@ernielansford8710 6 ай бұрын
Our TV’s are listening too. Go into the settings app on your tv. Turn off microphone.
@stuartd9741
@stuartd9741 6 ай бұрын
Junk your ring doorbell if you have one...
@ernielansford8710
@ernielansford8710 6 ай бұрын
Also, we have been tracked since the introduction of credit cards, more so when technology made it easier for banks to track us. Read the privacy policy of your bank. They share your banking activities with potential merchants to market to us. Not going political here, but it’s a known fact Bank of America shared with law enforce their customers credit card and debit card usage in the Washington DC Metro area the week of January 6, 2021
@Just_A_Name14
@Just_A_Name14 6 ай бұрын
They use your routers for sonar in your house. They have all the layouts on file
@simon359
@simon359 6 ай бұрын
It’s time to get a class action lawsuit going!!!
@scotttovey
@scotttovey 6 ай бұрын
Sure, all you need is to find an attorney that will take on the case. The first thing the attorney will have to do is figure out who has standing in a court of law. Now, given that the Supreme court has in the past ruled that States suiting the Federal government on behalf of their citizens, do not have Standing in court to uphold and enforce the Constitution of the United States, makes this extremely difficult. They made this judgment because they claimed that the States did not have injury in a first Amendment case. The Supreme Court has this wrong. In a Constitutional Republic, and in a government of the people, by the people, and for the people; every citizen and every State has standing in court to uphold and enforce the Constitution of the United States whenever the Federal government violates the Constitution. The violation of the Constitution is injury enough for any citizen or State to have standing. There need not be any monetary or property injury for we the people to have standing in Court to uphold and enforce the Constitution of the United States.
@noithinknot4583
@noithinknot4583 6 ай бұрын
​​@@scotttoveyYou are correct in you assessment. But I doubt that will change anything.
@simon359
@simon359 6 ай бұрын
@@scotttovey lawyers will go after anything if there’s enough money involved!
@kerningandleading
@kerningandleading 6 ай бұрын
A class action lawsuit probably wouldn’t do anything. Most likely they covered their butts in the TOC. What we really need is legislation passed to prevent this from happening. Most likely it will start in the EU first given their pro consumer stances on things like privacy.
@simon359
@simon359 6 ай бұрын
@@kerningandleading Unfortunately, they’ve all sold us down the river!
@SinfulTitan
@SinfulTitan 2 ай бұрын
This is why I drive a 2008 with no tech. When I bought it new I specifically requested and ordered all the low/no tech options I could. As long as I have a wrench and the right parts she ain't stopping anytime soon.
@michaeltutty1540
@michaeltutty1540 5 ай бұрын
The simple answer is to stop buying cars with open internet portals. If enough people tell car makers thst rhe reason for not buying is this issue, they will have to remove it. I used to hold a job that required my going into sites operated by contractors to the Department of Defence. Part of the clearance to enter was that I could not have anything with me that was taking pictures or sending data.
@juddgoswick2024
@juddgoswick2024 6 ай бұрын
Whenever Naomi ask if something in tech is spying on us the answer is "Yes!"
@bc4yt
@bc4yt 6 ай бұрын
"Is your ballpoint pen spying on you?" - Yes. "What about your organic avocados?" - also yes. "What about the used daipers in the hamper?" - believe it or not, also spies!
@NaomiBrockwellTV
@NaomiBrockwellTV 6 ай бұрын
True story lol
@NaomiBrockwellTV
@NaomiBrockwellTV 6 ай бұрын
@@bc4yt avocado exposé coming soon, I'm sure of it... 😹
@bc4yt
@bc4yt 6 ай бұрын
@@NaomiBrockwellTV I like the fact you made an effort to put the accent over the é... A woman of culture!
@l0I0I0I0
@l0I0I0I0 6 ай бұрын
​@@NaomiBrockwellTVNot Avacadoes? They are so good!
@CousinBumbleF
@CousinBumbleF 6 ай бұрын
I added an aftermarket radio to a 2019 Chevy express and there was no reason to have the data anymore. It had error codes when the sim was removed. I ended up cutting the wire to the mic and unplugging the gps and satellite antennas. Then added a dummy antenna so it didn’t know it was unplugged. Lots of work to not have big brother
@islandcyle5593
@islandcyle5593 6 ай бұрын
I went old school. After trying to buy a jeep and a bronco just to have the dealerships try to take advantage of me. I got a 86 toy 4x4. I love it and it’s on its way to 150% better than new when finished.
@soeffner6833
@soeffner6833 Ай бұрын
Home security systems do the same thing. I once bought a security camera that used my wifi to display the video. Turns out it wouldn't work without an internet connection. All the data had to go through a sever resulting in a delay on me seeing what was going on. And simply wouldn't work if the internet was down. I sent it back. They complained. But also revealed the data was an essential part of their business model. Not very secure.
@FR-tb7xh
@FR-tb7xh 3 ай бұрын
Great video! I’ll add a few points of my own … 1. While the vehicle privacy report is great, resist the temptation to correct ANY of the data it has on you or your vehicle! When I first saw the auto insurance company the report said I had, my first reaction was no, it’s wrong. Then I resubmitted my vin and saw they listed a completely, also wrong, different insurance company. Other fields were wrong, too. I realized, hey, they really have no idea, they know it, and I’m not going to volunteer any more data than they might already have on me. 2. Beware any rental cars. Many, if not most, of car rentals are new models, so have the most modern and invasive privacy technologies. They also have the ability to read road signs and lane markings! Providing your insurance company on the rental paperwork would be an easy way to find your insurance rate go up. Every mph over the speed limit you drove, every stop sign you didn’t come to a full stop at, every time you ‘kicked-out-of-the-hole’ to get into your high-speed dog-eat-dog rotary, every device you plugged into in the rental has the capacity to come back and bite you. 3. Beware devices like AirTags that operate on an extended network of Bluetooth devices. Every place the tag goes is associated with you, whether it’s in your car, your checked-in luggage, or package. Once the tag has served its purpose, disable or destroy it. 4. You’re actually digitally safest, unless it’s a true emergency, if you minimize the technology in your life. When car shopping, don’t be seduced by all the fancy new features on next year’s model. Consider buying an earlier model or better yet, a used vehicle in great shape. Only carry what devices and cards you must, disable bluetooth, and power down when not in use. Try not to use the USB ports in airports, your cars, and coffee shops. Oh, and don’t break the law!
@brandido2002
@brandido2002 6 ай бұрын
It's simple. Congress needs to stop targeting specific companies and just do the following. 1. Bar the storage, transmission, and/or accessing of American data from overseas. 2. Require the explicit consent of users for their data to be gathered. 3. Bar companies from preventing users from even being able to use their service if a user does not consent.
@JohnCiaccio
@JohnCiaccio 6 ай бұрын
They’re already breaking laws. Why do you think this would stop them. Just like the Do Not Call lists years ago it did nothing. Plus it’s way more complicated than that. Even if it stay in the country I still don’t want them to have any information.
@Dwigt_Rortugal
@Dwigt_Rortugal 6 ай бұрын
Our politicians are in the dark ages, too busy bickering with each other and fighting for power. The cobwebs gather on them as they get further and further out of touch with technology.
@crazy808ish
@crazy808ish 6 ай бұрын
hah You think Congress would pass that??? I won't say not in a million years.... but it's gonna be at least another hundred
@TheRealInscrutable
@TheRealInscrutable 6 ай бұрын
You need to edit #1.... 1. Bar the storage, transmission, and/or accessing of American data. (It doesn't matter where it's being seen from)
@Maybe-So
@Maybe-So 6 ай бұрын
Congress doesn't do sh** for Americans any more. They WANT this data collection, so they can track everyone. Insurance companies pay congress more than we do; they'll get this data automatically sent to them eventually. Dash Cams are great (I have one) but how long do you think it'll be before they mandate them? Cops will have "probable cause" to get the data whenever there's an accident. Look on YT or research Ring Doorbells and Police, or Ring Doorbells and FBI. Certain cities (Myrtle Beach, SC) taxes your property based on your property's inventory (new leather couch, TV, etc). They assume this is related to you renting out your property. I recall one story where, "if you don't allow us to inventory your house, we're going to tax you at a higher rate" - so you allowed them in, to get the lower property tax rate. Eventually this will apply to cars: You'll allow us to track you, so you can get a lower rate (it's all BS). The Health Ins company will increase your rates because you buy Pizza every week, or Car Ins rates go up because you go to the bar every Friday (think Cops want to know that too? Track you, know when you leave?) It's coming. It's just a matter of time.
@Snake.br549
@Snake.br549 6 ай бұрын
I had an insurance company tell me they were charging me extra for not having that OBD port device so they got canceled
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
LOL oh man it was supposedly going to be a discount for people who opted in, not yet another way to charge extra!
@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib
@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib 6 ай бұрын
Most cars pre 2010 won't have these things. And opting for more analog head units that don't require you to plug your phone into it is another option. These things are quite easy to avoid.
@MatthewDouglas-n5w
@MatthewDouglas-n5w 3 ай бұрын
@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib you have the year wrong there is way more than you on models as far back as 1990. After 1997/98 a lot of it is available wirelessly with a little effort and knowledge.
@Attalla2023
@Attalla2023 6 ай бұрын
Drive an old car
@Dustinicus.
@Dustinicus. 5 ай бұрын
You could even get a newer car and bypass all the spying equipment with an aftermarket engine controler. It's an expense, but it's an option
@SteveBbb-y6d
@SteveBbb-y6d 5 ай бұрын
Old would be anything before obdii so basically anything older than 1980s/1990s
@GNXClone
@GNXClone 4 ай бұрын
@@SteveBbb-y6dI can promise you that cars from 80s and 90s do not connect to the internet unless the owner added equipment which does.
@cbeausoleil
@cbeausoleil 4 ай бұрын
We have 2 older vehicles (1976 & 1979) that have no computer anything in them. But the amount of hoops we had to jump through to get them insured as daily drivers was crazy. Most insurance companies didn’t want to insure us. But the company that did agree to insure us is charging insane rates to drive these clunkers (they’re by no means pristine). And now I think I know why.
@danohanlon8316
@danohanlon8316 4 ай бұрын
Yes. The question is, what *year* did all this data collection start. I..e., what is the youngest car-year that is safe from data collection?
@williewonka6694
@williewonka6694 23 күн бұрын
I don't know, but my best guess it they have built in a critical stop that prevents the card from being removed.
@nopenotyeti
@nopenotyeti 6 ай бұрын
The whole surveillance thing is among the reasons I drive an old car. Mainly though, I like the incredible durability of a manual transmission. Saving $$ and helping tank the consumer culture through greater self-sufficiency🤣
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 4 ай бұрын
In the U.S., manual transmission is also a good theft deterrent!
@ericnepean
@ericnepean 6 ай бұрын
You can try to opt out by telling the car company to stop recording the data from your car or stop receiving it or to configure the car’s transmitter to stop sending it. Good luck with any of those. Your trump card, however, is the car’s antennas. If you disconnect an antenna, all of this stuff stops working, and it’s really hard for electronics to detect that an antenna is no longer present. In my car at least, there are separate antennas and antenna cables for satcom, GPS, cellular and FM and AM radios. You don’t have to remove an antenna, just disconnect its cable from the head end.
@robwhitlock5030
@robwhitlock5030 6 ай бұрын
That isn't always an option with today's electronics. For example, look at the Raspberry Pi computer. There is no visible antenna that you can disconnect, yet it has WiFi.
@Robbie-sk6vc
@Robbie-sk6vc 6 ай бұрын
Actually it's very easy to determine that the antenna isn't there!
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, & my Raspbian build still shows up periodically on my surveillance logs even though the Bluetooth & WiFi are turned "off". Hardware air gap switch, or GTFO with claims of "security".
@justcarkits4532
@justcarkits4532 3 ай бұрын
If you have a newer BMW or Mercedes (after about 2010) the diagnostic software will report issues with the antennas if you unplug them. VW / Audi has similar but less comprehensive antenna monitoring. Other manufacturers almost certainly do the same.
@billneurohr8509
@billneurohr8509 Ай бұрын
How do we get to see our data?
@konnorj6442
@konnorj6442 6 ай бұрын
One massive thing to push for is to make any and all data collection to be OPT IN only that way you are never needed to opt out at all to start
@Jennifer-nz2ss
@Jennifer-nz2ss 6 ай бұрын
You can never opt out I feel!
@crissd8283
@crissd8283 6 ай бұрын
We need to make holding data a liability. If the punishment for collecting data is high enough, data becomes a liability. It is sad that my data is considered an asset.
@eternalpunishment3922
@eternalpunishment3922 6 ай бұрын
I disagree. The only way is they didn't collect data in the first place, let alone selling it to data brokers, which could be people with nefarious intentions. Life is never that easy though. Why do they need 8B+ in "record breaking profits"? it's never bad to have a little greed with moderation because it can serve as a motivator but too much is... well, you see it already.
@amorphousblob2721
@amorphousblob2721 6 ай бұрын
The "opt in" will be buried in the piles of contracts every car dealer makes you sign when you buy a new car.
@fredfinger7092
@fredfinger7092 6 ай бұрын
@@amorphousblob2721 No that only works for opt out. Burying the "opt IN" will mean they cannot collect it.
@kevinpritchard3592
@kevinpritchard3592 18 күн бұрын
This is a huge overreach along with the OBD 3 plans and attempting to tax based on the mile that is already in the law as a pilot program. This needs to stop NOW!
@mammiemania893
@mammiemania893 5 ай бұрын
I have been saying this about vehicles since they could be scanned for engine and components in the 1990's. That is the second highest factor why I have never purchased a new vehicle . I value my privacy and those that I love.
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't even want anything that will refuse a part based on vendor signatures. The moment they started tying it all into one bus with serialized part IDs, I knew anti-consumer practices would follow... & boy have they ever!
@Frankie5Angels150
@Frankie5Angels150 2 ай бұрын
And yet you are commenting on a Google controlled app! 😆😂🤣 Brilliant!
@SirFancyPantsMcee
@SirFancyPantsMcee 6 ай бұрын
I just want a car that gets me to places efficiently and comfortably. That should be the whole point of a car. Not to connect to the internet. not to be a computer.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 6 ай бұрын
Sadly the only new cars sold today without data collection are anything but that😂
@Have.An.AmicoDay
@Have.An.AmicoDay 6 ай бұрын
Mitsubishi Mirage
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
Hey, I put a computer in my truck & it was _great._ Probably because _I_ put it there, & it only did what _I_ asked for, & it wasn't networked to every other part of the vehicle! These machines don't need to be logging our data; feature diversity is _not_ dependant on data leakage.
@asishreddy7729
@asishreddy7729 6 ай бұрын
Car privacy is a huge headache to deal with and there are no real options for us to ask the dealer to remove the on board infotainment system because its so tightly integrated with the entire driving system. It would be nice if we could have a privacy friendly third party infotainment system that we can replace the stock one with. Another option is if we can get a system where we can control the network activity of the stock built in infotainment system, like a pi hole for the car or a vpn for the car.
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 6 ай бұрын
There absolutely is an option to remove all of that equipment. That option is called "buy a vehicle that was made before that equipment was invented." The average age of vehicles in service has been climbing for decades, and for good reason. Newer vehicles are not better to own than older vehicles are, and they are not functionally more valuable than a vehicle that has a few years and miles under it.
@asishreddy7729
@asishreddy7729 6 ай бұрын
@@AlexandarHullRichter that’s not comfortable or practical. People always want new cars.
@AlexandarHullRichter
@AlexandarHullRichter 6 ай бұрын
@@asishreddy7729 hahahah that is not even remotely true. The average age of vehicles in use is over 15 years now, that means half of people out there want cars that are older than 15 years old. New cars are not even more comfortable than older cars, because this suspension is so stiff every bump in the road will bounce you around the cabin. Older cars are more comfortable to ride on rough roads because they were designed for rougher roads.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 6 ай бұрын
​@@AlexandarHullRichterWrong. This is only because the average American makes like 30k a year before taxes. People are broke, and old cars are rusting away. Car sales growth has actually stopped so the US market seems to be saturated but there are still many many people buying or leasing new cars.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 6 ай бұрын
​@@AlexandarHullRichterWrong. This is only because the average American makes like 30k a year before taxes. People are broke, and old cars are rusting away. Car sales growth has actually stopped so the US market seems to be saturated but there are still many many people buying or leasing new cars.
@675nero
@675nero 6 ай бұрын
I've worked on the car connect system, and now the car has now e-sims. You need to unplug the 4g antenna at the back of the radio unit.
@stevesidare2493
@stevesidare2493 Ай бұрын
Great to see this issue going around and alerting people.
@cratecruncher4974
@cratecruncher4974 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this information. My newest car was manufactured in 1986. Not only are these old cars private, they are easy to work on, fun to drive, and going up in value.
@MrBassard
@MrBassard 6 ай бұрын
issue is that many vehicles the "sim card" is actually an embedded modem that cannot be removed or disabled
@scotth9828
@scotth9828 6 ай бұрын
Just unplug it.
@Peglegkickboxer
@Peglegkickboxer 6 ай бұрын
Some cars like Toyota have the dcm fuse that you can pull out
@tomtom1541
@tomtom1541 6 ай бұрын
​@@scotth9828unfortunately if you unplug the OnStar module on a GM car it will mean you can't start the car. You also have to jumper out the wires in the connector to bypass the module.
@evmotorsports
@evmotorsports 5 ай бұрын
Removing the tiny coax antenna is still easy enough off of the bcm- body control module or radio control module
@lt1caprice57l
@lt1caprice57l 2 ай бұрын
Yep, this is why eSIM is now a thing. Can't remove it if it's not there.
@maverick9708
@maverick9708 6 ай бұрын
consumer rights really need to be updated to stop the scummy tactics people and governments have used to absolutely step on us
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 6 ай бұрын
We need a law that forces manufacturers to lay out all the info publicly. Without knowing about it there's nothing we can do.
@CrazyBear65
@CrazyBear65 6 ай бұрын
Government _is_ scum.
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
Even with it all laid out, people choose Accept rather than "opt out" of being able to use literally anything.
@echschmidt
@echschmidt 6 ай бұрын
Any assumption of privacy anywhere in these times is a myth! Great vid! Subbed!
@regnadkcin6702
@regnadkcin6702 5 ай бұрын
I have never taken by car back to the dealer, since my experience with them, showed me that they cannot be trusted. I also installed an aftermarket head unit shortly after buying my 2021 car. I won't pay for the OnStar type service the car has. I consider it to be sleazy behavior, to install features in a car that I can't use even after buying it. I expect a car I buy to function properly, demanding a extra monthly fee after buying any product, seems like extortion.
@robertmiller5735
@robertmiller5735 5 ай бұрын
sadly my 1968 pickup don't got no USB ports or OBD port
@coleridgecris
@coleridgecris 20 күн бұрын
Sadly ????? . . . . Sadly ??? No . . . . REJOICE !!
@TurboHappyCar
@TurboHappyCar 6 ай бұрын
After watching this video I remembered that my 2019 car came with some janky remote tracking (anti-theft) system that the dealer installed. Spent a couple of hours last night yanking out all that crap and repairing the wiring. Much better.
@lyianx
@lyianx 6 ай бұрын
Id love a hat (like 'dad' cap style) that says "There is no cloud: Its just someone else's computer"
@NaomiBrockwellTV
@NaomiBrockwellTV 6 ай бұрын
nice idea!
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 6 ай бұрын
“Trucker hat” or snap back? For the hat style?
@garybarnes4169
@garybarnes4169 6 ай бұрын
I've heard thatbefore, but then, I'm a sysadmin. My email server/web server/storage server is a Raspberry Pi in my house.
@AllDogsAreGoodDogs
@AllDogsAreGoodDogs 6 ай бұрын
Look at Louis Rossmann's site. He's got "Clouds are for rain" stuff.
@lak1294
@lak1294 6 ай бұрын
Naomi, maybe you could offer that on a hat or T-shirt. I love it.
@tl924
@tl924 6 ай бұрын
My car runs like a top and it's from 1986, its extremely fast, luxurious, and performs well. I don't need to worry about sim cards.
@mvm932
@mvm932 Ай бұрын
What 1986 car is extremely fast?
@17kcotsdoow86
@17kcotsdoow86 2 ай бұрын
You get worked up about your new car spying on you, yet you willfully carry a personal tracking device and recorder in your pocket everyday.
@MatthewBerginGarage
@MatthewBerginGarage 2 ай бұрын
Not me I don't own a cell phone.
@sachadee.6104
@sachadee.6104 Ай бұрын
it's a fair point but (as far as I know) it doesn't send data to my insurer about my driving. That's a real kicker for me, to learn that insurance actually are allowed to raise premiums based on (illegal?) collected data, EVEN if you never had a claim.
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 27 күн бұрын
@@MatthewBerginGarage You're watching a video on a site owned by Google. They have, at the very least, that much info about you.
@MatthewBerginGarage
@MatthewBerginGarage 27 күн бұрын
@@shmehfleh3115 Yes they know where I live. Which I told them myself when I registered on Google. I can't stop them from trying to track what I do but I am under no obligation to make it easy for them. 🤷‍♂😉
@RobertLamka
@RobertLamka 12 күн бұрын
So....more is better?
@gnkyiri
@gnkyiri Ай бұрын
I can easily visualize how the data could be sent to law enforcement to issue an e-ticket on your phone or cars display every time you speed or go thru red light or not use turn signal.....think of the money they can save from speed cameras and personnel, and the revenue generated from speeding e-tickets being generated in mass from your car tattling on you.
@MrHarrilasagna
@MrHarrilasagna 6 ай бұрын
I dug into this after reading your new book and because of the last video on this topic. Just to be sure my car really was in the clear. Now I can say with certainty that the only information gathered by my 2011 Town Car is the SiriusXM channels I listen too. I can live with that...
@NaomiBrockwellTV
@NaomiBrockwellTV 6 ай бұрын
💛
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 6 ай бұрын
2011 car with satellite radio? I remember it wasn't a couple years ago until many cars in Europe didn't even have digital radio standard.
@MrHarrilasagna
@MrHarrilasagna 6 ай бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 True that! I put it in aftermarket with the new radio (no internet connection). Only had a CD player before that.
@HotRodDad
@HotRodDad 6 ай бұрын
All the more reason to keep driving my oldies.
@larryboylarry5557
@larryboylarry5557 6 ай бұрын
@@MrHarrilasagnadefinitely a good technique using after market radio not linked to the computers in the automobile. With how integrated in the dash the radio is with everything else used to control the automobile I wonder if you can install an aftermarket radio?
@TheZombieSaints
@TheZombieSaints 6 ай бұрын
Great video! I had no idea what's going on with cars and data collection. It's one of those things that unless you actually think about it, you don't think about it. "out of sight, out of mind" as it were.
@foodsafetypragmatist
@foodsafetypragmatist 6 ай бұрын
And THIS is a major reason I am in no rush to purchase a new vehicle.
@SteelWolf13
@SteelWolf13 5 ай бұрын
Remember in the 1980's when the first viruses came to be? What if there was an OBDII device that when plugged in could wipe any data it finds back to a factory state and wipe date over and over again or prevent it from being written or sent? I bet these car systems are not to secure.
@jackburton5085
@jackburton5085 5 ай бұрын
- In friends' cars or those I rent, the connection drops (it's maaagic) - I buy used cars made before "data theft" - But if I had to buy a new car, how could I do it? I could launch a MITM attack, making the car connect not to home, but to a hostspot created ad hoc by me (Pinepple or similar), to which it can connect to a local network in the car, offline, or to a home server that acts as a filter and only lets through what I want. It depends on what I need and the type of impediment that is implemented when it is offline.
@ContantContact
@ContantContact 6 ай бұрын
I also do not take my car to the dealer for maintenance. I do my own maintenance, and also have an OBD reader, though I seldom need to use it.
@antispin3311
@antispin3311 6 ай бұрын
Great topic! Thanks for bringing more attention to these shady companies
@rs7123
@rs7123 6 ай бұрын
The amount of Easter Eggs in this video is astounding! All of the organizations listed. The shark and words for its description about the industry and your data - so clever! LOL. Hilarious!
@kawkid
@kawkid 6 ай бұрын
Drive an old car with no electronic crap. Problem solved. I see a business opportunity.
@VoiceoverMomentum
@VoiceoverMomentum 3 ай бұрын
Is my 2007 old enough?
@alexander1055
@alexander1055 3 ай бұрын
​@@VoiceoverMomentumDepends on the brand but unlikely.
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 2 ай бұрын
​@@VoiceoverMomentumits too old to have any sort of cell service that would work, or computers to harvest your data.
@DXMage
@DXMage 3 ай бұрын
I had opted out of the data sharing on my Toyota when getting everything setup. I checked on it recently and it showed that at some point I was opted back into the data sharing. Something I never would have done.
@matthewnirenberg
@matthewnirenberg Ай бұрын
Its likely that your govt made the 'SOS' button (if installed) mandatory and thus you get no choice as in such countries disabling or removing a 'safety feature' is illegal. Beyond that I have no idea as to why your opt-out was ignored.
@fv2077
@fv2077 6 ай бұрын
I entered the VIN number on the mentioned website and it reported: This car is like a “hard-drive on wheels”, which surprised me a lot. My car is an Opel (Vauxhall) Astra from 1998 and has no internet, SIM, Bluetooth, phone connection, cloud-based media, GPS, navigation, OBD2 or anything of the sort. The only thing that I can think of is that the airbag electronics records speed and acceleration information.
@PatrickKQ4HBD
@PatrickKQ4HBD 5 ай бұрын
It's a 3.5" floppy on wheels! 😂
@fv2077
@fv2077 5 ай бұрын
@@PatrickKQ4HBD 😂💯
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
The '98 Astra's OBDII port is concealed in the center console, under the handbrake lever. Accelerator, brake, power steering, & load-based engine calibration data (among other things), are all fed through the car's computer, but I don't recall which data is logged.
@fv2077
@fv2077 5 ай бұрын
@@prophetzarquon I know the location of the data connector, but what I meant is that the Astra-G only became EOBD/OBD2 compliant starting with the 2001 model year, i.e., those built after September 1, 2000. The 1998 Opel Astra is a bit of a transitional model in terms of diagnostic systems. While later models adopted the standardized OBD-II protocol, many 1998 models used a proprietary system. For the 1998 Opel Astra, it is likely to have an OBD-I port using Opel's proprietary diagnostic protocol, sometimes referred to as Op-com or Opel-com. This system is not fully OBD-II compliant and requires specialized diagnostic tools compatible with Opel's proprietary protocols.
@fv2077
@fv2077 5 ай бұрын
@@prophetzarquon I know the location of the data connector, but what I meant is that the Astra-G only became EOBD/OBD2 compliant starting with the 2001 model year, i.e., those built after September 1, 2000. The 1998 Opel Astra is a bit of a transitional model in terms of diagnostic systems. While later models adopted the standardized OBD-II protocol, many 1998 models used a proprietary system. For the 1998 Opel Astra, it is likely to have an OBD-I port using Opel's proprietary diagnostic protocol, sometimes referred to as Op-com or Opel-com. This system is not fully OBD-II compliant and requires specialized diagnostic tools compatible with Opel's proprietary protocols.
@asificam1
@asificam1 6 ай бұрын
On some cars, the box that records things with the SIM is on it's own fuse, you can temporarily shut if off by yanking the fuse until you get around to removing the SIM.
@hernanhernandez6567
@hernanhernandez6567 6 ай бұрын
While I do have a 2018 vehicle, it does pop up with a message every month to see if i am fine with it collecting data for traffic info as it says, and it auto opts out of the data collection, and makes me accept it if i choose to. While obviously you would not want it to collect your info, i do appreciate that it does opt out by itself, and not just always collecting data with just a prompt once and good luck finding out how to sign out of it!
@davidmcglone409
@davidmcglone409 6 ай бұрын
A popup every month should be illegal as well. I'm a firm believer of, If I want to purchase something, I'll come to you. Otherwise leave me alone.
@hernanhernandez6567
@hernanhernandez6567 6 ай бұрын
@@davidmcglone409 Hence the reason of me saying that it would be obvious that it should be a no from the get go. I do like the fact that it gives me some control vs nothing at all! Is it perfect? No, but slightly better than the latter.
@davidmcglone409
@davidmcglone409 6 ай бұрын
@@hernanhernandez6567 True, just be careful. As the saying goes "If you give them an inch, they'll make it a mile"
@JustJ-gs3rx
@JustJ-gs3rx Ай бұрын
I was told by the dealer when I purchased my Toyota that it wouldn’t allow the GPS to work and track the location of the vehicle if the SD chip was not installed. At the time I purchased it the vehicle came with GPS but didn’t work till they pulled a SIM card out of another vehicle and put it inside the vehicle I purchased. Mine is actually installed in the front of the radio plate…
@gredd9231
@gredd9231 6 ай бұрын
This is another reason why Im perfectly happy with my 90s truck.
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
1990 Suburban is best Suburban
@gsftom
@gsftom 6 ай бұрын
What won’t drive change is consumers that “want” privacy. What will drive change is ppl that won’t have any of this crap in a car that they buy.
@CantoniaCustoms
@CantoniaCustoms 6 ай бұрын
>implying the western economy isn't just a command economy with more steps Let's just face it, only a few multinational companies control nearly 99% of your life. And the government will just give them free money if nobody buys their shit.
@avgFloridian
@avgFloridian 6 ай бұрын
We need @RichRebuilds to do a SIM card hunter series.
@mjmeans7983
@mjmeans7983 6 ай бұрын
And when the nag-ware notices when you start the car doesn't deter consumers from removing the SIM, the designers will put up more blocks to disabling it, such as adding a non-removable (backup) eSIM. And when people figure out how to block those too, the designers will prevent the car from starting in the first place. This will NEVER stop until there is equivalent to legislation to credit data reporting laws. There will be many lobbyists using false equivalency and straw man arguments that collecting this data saves lives. But this kind of privacy protection MUST be passed. Yes, laws like that will absolutely destroy the current firehose data market. I'm fine with that.
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
The thing is, it isn't gonna happen. Data collection comes part & parcel of connectivity, & there are no unconnected automobiles anymore. Data even gets harvested during service, without any wireless at all. Plus, public roads are a public place, with "no reasonable expectation of privacy"; so, any driving on public roads is fair game for anyone to log, & security camera aggregation systems can already do that, searching out a single vehicle across millions of doorbell & security cameras. Even without traffic cameras, traffic gets tracked. An automobile in a public place, isn't private. The fact that automobiles aren't private even on private land anymore, _is_ a legitimate issue, but privacy & public roads are anathematic.
@johnsmith7676
@johnsmith7676 5 ай бұрын
Laws do nothing. Fox guarding the henhouse, as always. It's all fictional.
@ronaldckrausejr7762
@ronaldckrausejr7762 5 ай бұрын
Do a visual only check for a device which is usually under the passenger seat (it is also occasionally behind the center dash). That vehicle metrics device is one whole lot of metrics. It cannot be removed or bypassed. Attempting to do so will be making the vehicle a tow back to the dealership. It records metrics in case one is in accident. Your own vehicle (one for which you could have paid for in full??) can actually be used to testify against you.
@anthonygonzalez7488
@anthonygonzalez7488 Ай бұрын
I purchased a used 2007 chevrolet colorado , and it came with a stock factory am/fm radio . The truck did not have cirrus or onstar. Soon after buying the truck, i noticed that my cellphone was giving me alerts about different radio stations ( the radio itself was communicating directly with my cellphone and or cellphone towers ) . I removed the factory radio and installed an aftermarket radio, and i stopped receiving alerts on my cellphone . I opened up the factory radio and on the circuit board was a combination SIM / RFID chip, which would allow the radio to be used as a rx/tx device .
@Jizzlewobbwtfcus
@Jizzlewobbwtfcus 6 ай бұрын
14:23 PAUSE IT! HAHAHAHA I love that _Pegasus Cars_ in the bottom right hand corner. TOTALLY not a dig at Pegasus software :D LOVE IT!!!
@brandonsheffield9873
@brandonsheffield9873 6 ай бұрын
I keep getting annoying pop ups from Microsoft, Android, Samsung etc... telling me my location data is not precise and i should turn it on for better service. I ignore them, but they never stop.
@robertsmith2956
@robertsmith2956 6 ай бұрын
I think that is why they turned off the cell towers to try and force you to use a smart phone that can be tracked.
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
Yeah. Aside from supporting more devices per antenna (as a cost-saving & scalability measure that carriers wanted), more precise location accuracy is the big win for 5G networks, so far as monetized surveillance is concerned. The same properties that make 5G bands so flaky, make it excellent for location finding!
@konnorj6442
@konnorj6442 6 ай бұрын
This is a massive betrayal of consumers by almost every car mfr as well as many other companies and they needs to be sued into oblivion for this
@josephfacey2596
@josephfacey2596 6 ай бұрын
What about your refrigerator, television, computer, phone, home security system, any "connected" appliances , and so on. The can of worms has been opened. It cannot be "un"opened.
@andrewlutes2048
@andrewlutes2048 6 ай бұрын
@@josephfacey2596 All of those manufacturers are liable and deserve lawsuits too.
@tardisrider25
@tardisrider25 6 ай бұрын
​@@andrewlutes2048They aren't liable though. Technically you agree to all this when you sign papers. People need to just stop buying these things
@andrewlutes2048
@andrewlutes2048 6 ай бұрын
@@tardisrider25 Exactly. I’m not buying or using stuff that require me to sign terms of service that I do not understand or agree to. We need to stop lying on terms of service. Saying we understand and agree when we don’t is not truthful and it’s only harming ourselves.
@juqual78
@juqual78 3 ай бұрын
Welcome to Capitalism (unregulated).
@curtisking1758
@curtisking1758 5 ай бұрын
I purchased a 2016 Ford Taurus SHO in January 2020. In November 2020 I was coming home from food shopping. I was driving 60 mph in a 65 mph, when approximately 2 miles from my house, the car took over and began driving its self autonomously. The steering wheel flew from my grasp, buy its self, and swerved the car instantly into the oncoming traffic lane, holding a straight line, while accelerating simultaneously. I tried to turn the steering wheel to get the car back in my lane, but I couldn’t budge it. The wheel felt as if it was locked, I couldn’t overcome it. With both feet, smashing down on the breaks, as hard as I could, the car continued accelerating from 60 to 75 in a matter of seconds. I was lucky, there was no oncoming traffic at that time. I'm alive to tell the story because I grabbed the shifter and threw it into park, but the second I depressed the detent, the computer let go, and I regained control in that instant. The whole ordeal only lasted a few seconds, but it felt like a lifetime. These cars and heavy trucks can download driving instructions on their own, autonomously. Your enemies and mine, can hack into them and kill you, i.e. drive you head on into on coming traffic, or steal it remotely, in complete secrecy from any distance.
@johnsmith7676
@johnsmith7676 5 ай бұрын
"Boston Brakes". It's real.
@stillkickin9957
@stillkickin9957 4 ай бұрын
Michael hastings
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 4 ай бұрын
Some security researchers tested this a few years ago, and confirmed that everything you described is technically possible.
@curtisking1758
@curtisking1758 4 ай бұрын
@@InventorZahran Thank you for the comment. Not only is it technically possible, it has already been done. Yes, back in 2020 I experienced an attempted murder by a supply chain weapon assault. Ironically, there was a news report around that time about how gangs are using this technology to murder people. Still farther back, around 2004, there were security alerts for American Services members, and Government Scientists, Law Enforcement Officers and Elected Officials to count themselves as soft targets. There is a bounty placed on some of us. These cars and heavy trucks can download driving instructions on their own, autonomously. Your enemies, and mine, can hack into the wireless sync system and drive you head-on into on coming traffic. Finance companies can steal or repose it remotely in complete secrecy from any distance. I disarmed the car, and I’m still paying for it. For those of you who think I’m making up stories, the car’s computer also data logs the driving habits of the driver.
@humongousminiatures16scale92
@humongousminiatures16scale92 2 ай бұрын
Bulshit
@HilltopZombieShop
@HilltopZombieShop 3 ай бұрын
How can I disconnect onstar on my chevy colorado without losing my fm radio and my apple carplay?
@Darren777Au
@Darren777Au 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for this, Naomi. Data - data. 🤣 like the blooper. 👍🏼
@jennifermoore2041
@jennifermoore2041 6 ай бұрын
The insane word salads, impossible language,, lobbying, sinister motives, greed.
@markdoherty9205
@markdoherty9205 6 ай бұрын
Well, if George Orwell could see it coming in 1949. It's a bit late to complain about it now. Idiocracy is a great documentary film.😂
@pooheadlou
@pooheadlou 6 ай бұрын
He could see it happening because he's family where part of what's happening now! That's why he could what was coming.
@CrazyBear65
@CrazyBear65 6 ай бұрын
_They Live, we sleep,_
@TooTrue1874
@TooTrue1874 3 ай бұрын
How does this all work with buyers and resellers? I mean if you signed all these papers saying they can track you in that vehicle but then you sell that vehicle to me who signed none of that, what happens? I mean I assume they keep on tracking you but now isn't it illegal and spying since I didn't sign any papers? Would I not have a case since I didn't specifically agree to all those things?
@MisterHughes
@MisterHughes 2 ай бұрын
My current car is 15 years old and beyond the OBD2 port it has no data gathering or connectivity, no GPS, no SIM, no bluetooth. My insurer tried to lure me into fitting a black-box for cheaper cover, nope. Trouble is, it's only a matter of time until they try to make it a legal mandate to be eligible for insurance.
@xenonbart5526
@xenonbart5526 6 ай бұрын
Can't wait for that "cutting edge" company to pop-up that creates a car that uses a "local only" system as if it's a whole new concept.
@Robbie-sk6vc
@Robbie-sk6vc 6 ай бұрын
Good luck with that! With big government regulation, that won't happen.
@SE-161
@SE-161 6 ай бұрын
Does this belong to Europe, too? If yes, how does this private data collections work along with the GDPR?
@aesopstortoise
@aesopstortoise 6 ай бұрын
That's a very good question.
@mrcvry
@mrcvry 6 ай бұрын
Probably something in the fine print.
@jvandekant
@jvandekant 6 ай бұрын
I have the exact same question. It clearly goes against everything in there.
@mrcvry
@mrcvry 6 ай бұрын
No one cares until someone sues.
@psxtuneservice
@psxtuneservice 6 ай бұрын
Yes, actually EU law that the card is connected with the mobile network
@kil-roy
@kil-roy 6 ай бұрын
I sticking to my 2010 corolla for a while
@tomtom1541
@tomtom1541 6 ай бұрын
​@@lalagardenia6500it's been an optional extra since the early 2000s. But it's not that common until recently.
@brucebeamon5460
@brucebeamon5460 2 ай бұрын
Ideally in the subscription they are selling being able to tell US what systems will fail once we unplug the SIM card would be helpful… be it the radio , heat windshield wipers etc that would let us decide if unplugging it is something we could live with.
@jamesmoore9511
@jamesmoore9511 Ай бұрын
Exactly when will the GPS be correlated with posted speed limits and the issuance of traffic citations. Will this lead to the ability of people, companies, criminals and law enforcement to turn off the automobile itself?
@RemotHuman
@RemotHuman 6 ай бұрын
wow that plugging in things thing is super shady
@InventorZahran
@InventorZahran 4 ай бұрын
If you really need to charge your phone or other device, use a USB condom or just plug it into the 12-volt outlet (formerly "cigarette lighter") with an adaptor.
@jacksin3323
@jacksin3323 6 ай бұрын
This is why i drive a 1988 supra that i rebuilt myself.
@michaelbaja1854
@michaelbaja1854 4 ай бұрын
Carry a cell phone in your pocket?
@btasler
@btasler 3 ай бұрын
Its a Supra!
@OtherMike5000
@OtherMike5000 6 ай бұрын
You Smart TV is RECORDING you 24/7 Have a great day! 🤗
@paulas_lens
@paulas_lens 5 ай бұрын
Yep, old school dumb plasma here.
@juqual78
@juqual78 3 ай бұрын
Imagine owning a TV
@MatthewBerginGarage
@MatthewBerginGarage 2 ай бұрын
I can't seem to find the sim card in my 1953 Ford Customline. Where would it be in the vacuum tube radio?🤷‍♂😉 I have replaced the stock radio and removed all traces of the OnStar system from my 2011 truck. Very hard to track now. I don't own a cell phone either. Funny thing is the OnStar was still operating even with the vehicle turned off as I blew the computer fuse when I cut the GPS/Cell antenna.
@Kas1122
@Kas1122 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. There is not enough talk and information on how to make your car more private and how your car spies and distributes that data. I imagine that in some countries one day they will start sending tickets based on your car's logs for example.
@lihtan
@lihtan 6 ай бұрын
The only computer a car needs is the embedded ECU that runs the ignition and fuel mapping for the engine!
@tomtom1541
@tomtom1541 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you can't register a new car that doesn't have airbags or antilock abs installed. So your gonna be forced to have multiple ECUs anyway.
@lihtan
@lihtan 6 ай бұрын
@@tomtom1541 There's plenty of used OBD-1 cars that only have a single ECU. ABS modulators don't store any data. Many vehicles do have a telemetry module linked with the airbag system that will record what the vehicle was doing right before a collision.
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
_*all US vehicles sold in the last several decades_ do have a telemetry module linked with the airbag system that will record what the vehicle was doing right before a collision. (& the computer's modest memory is more than sufficient to retain a surprisingly extensive history of that data)
@lt1caprice57l
@lt1caprice57l 2 ай бұрын
​@@prophetzarquonbut that information is only available after the fact, not streamed on the fly. It can't be used to track your whereabouts in real time, or hike your insurance premiums despite no accidents or tickets (yes, that *is* a thing), or, eventually, flat out restrict how and where you can even drive.
@avgFloridian
@avgFloridian 6 ай бұрын
There are TONS of privacy cars out there, especially before OBD-II (about 1995).
@doodlethebeagle2078
@doodlethebeagle2078 6 ай бұрын
Thoughts on auto insurance mobile apps also spying on you, even if GPS location is "off" ?
@repatch43
@repatch43 6 ай бұрын
They can still collect rough location through cell network, and of course, the can still collect your driving habits using the accelerometers in your phone
@repatch43
@repatch43 6 ай бұрын
@@user-3tf67bk46u Yes, since we're talking about a mobile app
@amorphousblob2721
@amorphousblob2721 6 ай бұрын
@@user-3tf67bk46u The car has accelerometers, too, and who knows if the "GPS location" setting in the infotainment system affects anything beyond the map application.
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth 6 ай бұрын
Some apps will not run without gps and bluetooth permissions. If the app can't run, your insurer will drop the discount. Now, even if you have hands free phone, they track phone activity--which is classed as distracted driving. How that's any more distracting than a passenger, I just don't know.
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
It's not more distracting than a passenger. Talking to a passenger is found to be the #1 most distracting thing, even moreso than eating, adjusting the radio, or putting on makeup.
@donnam5060
@donnam5060 3 ай бұрын
Can you put in a dummy sim that is not activated to get it to stop transmitting but not have errors.
@adoptsalot
@adoptsalot Ай бұрын
Consumers may want privacy, but auto manufacturers see data collection/Selling and Subscriptions as revenue streams they want to grow. They really will fight this.
@ericnepean
@ericnepean 6 ай бұрын
I note that the head end for my 2018 Subaru Forester has a cable labelled GPS. Disconnecting the GPS cable from the head end should break the vehicles location tracking, and to the vehicle electronics it will just look like really bad reception, so it shouldn’t break any features except the navigation, which I prefer to use on my personal devices anyway. Disconnecting the WIFI antenna can probably be done just as well. One may be able to opt out of cellular data tracking by disconnecting that antenna.
@prophetzarquon
@prophetzarquon 5 ай бұрын
You know that GPS devices only _receive_ data, they don't transmit?
@ericnepean
@ericnepean 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@prophetzarquonOf course GPS does not transmit. GPS does enable a car to record and report its position. I prefer not have either.
@Groundskeeper-c4n
@Groundskeeper-c4n Ай бұрын
This is what happens when we do not hold our own accountable.
@1rgam3r
@1rgam3r 5 ай бұрын
Those of us that raised concerns over a decade ago were shouted down and called names. That’s how it happened. The way it always happens.
@kenl2861
@kenl2861 4 ай бұрын
Excellent wake up call. Thank you!
@thomasmcnamara576
@thomasmcnamara576 4 ай бұрын
I'm a Car Guy and I loved every nanometer of this video. I will start sending a monthly donation. Naomi, You are the Best. And now I know how to pronounce "Data" Dat tah!
@NaomiBrockwellTV
@NaomiBrockwellTV 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your support! And for pronouncing data like me lolol
@ronb6182
@ronb6182 3 ай бұрын
​​@@NaomiBrockwellTVit was date ta when I went to school. I took date ta processing for two years at the technical school. Computers were fun back then not today. Computer is a beast today. Also phones are too. 73
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