Should You Sink Hundreds Into an Atari Jaguar?

The Atari Jaguar is a cartridge based console from the early to mid nineties that failed in the videogame market. It contended with consoles like the SNES, and Genesis first but eventually went toe to toe with the 3DO and even the Sony Playstation and Sega Saturn, but it didn't fair well against most of them. All in all, it is speculated that less than 150,000 Atari Jaguars were sold, and it marked the end of Atari in the console market for a very, very long time.
It can be had from places like eBay today for quite a bit of money, but is it worth picking up? And why does it cost so much to begin with? Are the games hidden gems? Let's watch and found out!
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[@dilbertfish]

I already invested a small fortune when it first came out. I regret nothing.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

That's what it's all about!

[@scottboehmer1975]

I owned a Jaguar which I bought pretty much at launch and still have fond memories of it. I wound up selling mine and have always regretted that decision. But given how much the second hand systems sell for I'll probably content myself with Atari 50 and hope for a Jaguar Mini or something similar.

[@ezedilu07]

If a Jaguar + ever comes to fruition It would be a dream come true. Towers 2 being rereleased is a good sign ❤

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Oh that reminds me I need to grab Towers 2 Enhanced. Thanks

[@brotherblue3340]

I bought a Jag in 93 but traded in when it sold poorly. Fast forward to 2022 I bought another. Then I went to Atari age and bought a game drive. Then I called it a day. I have all the games on one cart w/o paying obscene prices for individual carts. I did pay a lot for the Jag but I am happy with the way I did it. I have never owned a Jag CD and probably never will since they are going for $1500 to 2Gs and break easily.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Smart man! I should get a little bit of money in March so I'll probably pick up a game drive and 400 mini...

[@arcadesurvival8469]

Same here.

[@Rk3tSk8s-ut4yo]

The toilet seat isn't worth it if you have a GD.

[@doctorclu]

Got into the Jaguar in 1999 and got a unit at KB Toys for me and my friend at $30 a piece. One of the last three units in all of KB's inventory. Went back for the last unit but it was gone! :D. So many hours of fun there.

[@earlusmcdivett]

In 1996 i worked at Kay-Bee toys and we marked these plastic pieces of junk down to 50.00 and STILL never sold any. It was a complete joke, no one was interested in it at all.

[@TobeyStarburst]

People are interested now lol

[@Maikeru722]

I wonder how much was the Turbo Duo marked down to?

[@SickBoyNick]

K B not Kay Bee just sayin

[@earlusmcdivett]

@@SickBoyNick Seriously? It was spelled “Kay-bee” at the time i worked there, nimrod. Google before you make yourself look foolish next time .

[@earlusmcdivett]

@@Maikeru722 Kay Bee didn’t carry the turbo duo, 3D0 or Sega Saturn. I never knew why. But i sold the hell out of Playstation and N64.

[@audrisampson]

I've wanted on to say I owned one but the games library did nothing for me. Odds are I'd play NBA Jam and Fast Food 64. I would totally grab a Jag mini if it was released to try it out.

[@Crixusmaximus]

I bought one about two years ago. I always wanted one back in the day and never got it. I’m 10 games shy of a full set. I have some of the rare and expensive ones but still missing some big boys. I doubt I will ever finish it but I have had fun playing and collecting the jag. I have streamed it on twitch and people come in and are curious. The vast majority of people don’t even know what a jaguar is. It’s cool to experience it for the first time all these years later

[@greybush38]

I was a lucky lad, living in N.Cal area and had early access to see Tempest 2K when it was a 12" PCB raw, sticking out of a basic early Jaguar unit. It was at a GOOD GUYS in the North Bay area just oustside SF. I bought one 3 months later anf lost it in 95 when I joined the Navy. Since then I have owned 3 Jags, 1 CD unit and now I emulate everyting because it works. God Bless

[@TheAtariNetwork]

That's really cool!

[@garethUK]

I bought a Jaguar and 2x Jaguar CD add-ons all still sealed like 12 years ago for not much money. I sold one JCD a short while later which made a profit and basically meant I got the rest for free. I then sold the 2nd JCD a few years later to Jacques Villeneuve (yes, the F1 driver!) for a very tidy sum because there just wasn't anything on it that I enjoyed playing and the value had increased to a level that made no sense to keep it. I still have the Jaguar. I managed to grab the flash cart when that first came out and sold all my official cartridges, leaving me with another tidy profit and more games than I started out with given the ease with which they can be downloaded. I spent some of that profit on an official 6-button Pro controller. Recently though a great Jaguar emulator was released and is available via EmuDeck. Playing Jaguar games on my Steam Deck is a whole lot easier than getting the actual console out of storage and hooking it up.

[@andy2more475]

A perfect revival story of a cartridge based system and NEW games become a reality. The Jag would be a hit! Great video thank you!

[@erockbrox8484]

I got mine at a resale shop for $12 no joke. I bought it right away.

[@TheJodyhicks]

I have Nine working Jags and Two Working Jag CD's and an early complete Sealed CIB game Carts. I love the Jag and all the weird charm of the system.

[@DB19736]

Great video! Just subbed. I just recently purchased a Jaguar and grabbed a game drive. Collecting individual games seems next to impossible and very expensive around my area.The game drive is the way to go.

[@eightbit1975]

I drove to a little shop in NYC that had one of these left and were holding it for me. This was during Atari's "light" launch which I believe was only NYC and California. So, I was one of the first people to get it. My friend drove home back to NJ which was the state I was living at the time. He had to drive because I was just too damn excited! Yeah, I loved it then...still love it now.

[@binaryrooster]

Still fondly remember the retailer Game in the UK buying a ton of old stock and selling it off cheap. I bought a stack of games for £100 and then picked up the cd unit for £50. It's not a great console but Tempest and Jeff Minters VLM make it worth hanging on to.

[@derpnooner]

Still have my Jaguar … bought it from a reseller in our Church flyer. My brother and I saved up all summer and paid with mostly singles and change… lol. I still love my Jag, got a GameDrive for it, and I cannot WAIT to play that MK1 port when it drops! Long live Atari!

[@MrMarrekkk]

Great summary, in my case i was fascinated by Jag around early 1995 when i used to read game magazines mentioning "overhyped PS1" while actually "64-bits real deal Jaguar" was underrated. Not until 1996 i could compare them directly at the game convention in my home town so obviously seeing games made me change my mind once and for all and I've never wanted Jaguar again. Apparently it was similar with my love towards Sega Saturn seen as underrated until i started collecting for it seriously and even though it has some great games the mighty PS1 in the 5th generation just blows everything away in comparison.

[@ArneChristianRosenfeldt]

But then learned that not only did the SNES already had a DSP for audio and could do a better Kart game, but those 16 bit consoles had transparency, which the Jaguar does not. Light and shadow effects typical for the Jaguar were already on SNES. NES had the more advanced controller with a hardware UART. Like, did Atari even watch the competition? And then all the stuff even the Amiga does better. Even zx spectrum has proper fast page burst access for video. No wait states or hogging the bus.

[@TheSocialGamer]

I love my Atari Jaguar!

[@johnketo2150]

Sorry for your sticker shock regret. I was seriously considering getting it in 2000 for $99 from liquidator, but passed on it because I thought I was just trying to collect ANOTHER piece of technology and I wasn’t into the games. I picked up a sealed Jaguar a few years ago for a lot more, but now I have most of the ST ports and homebrews that I want in physical form. I don’t regret paying more for the Jaguar in 2021 at all and I figure that some homebrew developer of the future will create a game I want to play for the Jaguar (Hammer of the Gods and Wyvern Tales) and not the PS5. The lack of homebrew in collections and mini consoles is what make owning the physical console really shine. I feel better about owning the console now that I would have in 2000. I think it has a brighter future in 2024, than when it was cheap and is worth every penny you need to save for and spend on it.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

There are definitely some cool games coming for it. I'm really impressed by the work being done on the Mortal Kombat port. And his monthly updates are fun too.

[@TheSnipernumber7]

I bought mine for £40 about 27/28 years ago with I think 9 games. I still have the console but sold the games during lockdown when I couldn't work. I have since bought back all the ones I had with the exception of Bubsy and added a few I always wanted AVP, Doom and Wolfenstein. Oh, and Raiden. I am currently on 11 boxed games and 6 Cart only. All the best!!!!

[@TheAtariNetwork]

What a deal! Yeah I sold my original stuff not that long ago really and I wish I wouldn't of but we had to do what we had to do. Glad you were able to get everything back

[@alphawoolf5981]

I got my Jaguar collection after the fall. VERY cheap and VERY worthwhile. I love it to this day!

[@steveandrade3477]

I liked the number pad. It added a degree of PC functionality to the console.

[@510newguy]

I was talked out of picking this console up back when it was still on the shelves too. As far as playing the games go I'd probably be more interested in atari collections being released on steam more than playing them on anything else - as long as they played well. If atari released a retro console that played jaguar games I might consider picking one up if only because of the neat looking design.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Steam releases is a good idea too!

[@ryanbullock2971]

I have two Jaguars, both with CD drives and... they just sit in a box in my basement. I forget they're there most of the time. I've played plenty of Tempest 2000, but there's not much else that makes me want to get the Jag out and play-not even my copy of BattleSphere. I grew up with an 800XL, and was excited to get a Jag when it was new. I paid $249. I can't say if it was worth it. BigPEmu is a fantastic idea instead of finding overpriced hardware. I have two copies of Doom, but can't find the adapter to connect my two Jags. I ordered two copies of BattleSphere when it was new so a friend and I could both play. We connected our systems together (over 20 years ago) to play BattleSphere exactly once. That same friend and I connected our OG Xboxes about 500 times to pay Halo.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

You're the second person to bring up BigPEmu I think I'm going to have to check that out.

[@SomniaCE]

Back in 5th grade (so around 05/06) one of my friend's neighbors was having a garage sale. He had a Jaguar available along with AvP and a couple other games and I was desperate to get it. Brought my mom over and he just refused to sell it to me because I was so young! Roughly 19 years later and I'm still a little bitter lol

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I'd be bitter too! That sucked but an interesting story honestly.

[@socrates0603]

Back in the day, I did not know of the existence of the 7800 and Jaguar. However, once I got into collecting and retro gaming, being an Atari fanboy, I wanted all the Atari platforms. I got the Jag a few years ago to participate in the high score challenge at Atari I/O forums. I planned from the start to get the GameDrive. Physical copies of games would be simply shelf candy as you said. The Jaguar has made a significant impact on my collecting. Cybermorph was first game I played on the Jaguar. When I first aaw the game screen, I thought I was looking at an Atari ST game. No surprise then that I later learned that the Jag and ST were in the market around the same time. It resparked my love for the ST that I tried to suppress (because of its linked to Trammell). The Jag along with your video about Jack Trammell has opened me up to embrace the ST again. I’m now looking for an ST to add back to the fold. Thanks for another great video ❤

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Thanks for watching the video! I definitely want to grab an ST too. I've heard a lot of people say they stopped supporting Atari for a lot of reasons but at the end of the day, they tried some pretty interesting stuff throughout the years. And released some "interesting" stuff too! We're glad to have other Atari fans to take this journey with, you guys rock! I'm glad I could help re-spark your interest in this stuff.

[@onlysublime]

There were some amazing games that few people got to try due to low production numbers. Like power drive rally. You'll be shocked how smooth the screen scrolls. I've never seen a screen scroll so smoothly on any platform , let alone a console. I always wanted to play battlesphere because I had the catbox. But they never made enough copies for people to buy.

[@SomniaCE]

I'd 100% buy a Jaguar+ system. Cheap entry to the hardware with modern monitor port support that could be easily modded to play basically whatever I want? 10/10

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Agreed

[@lakojake4215]

I'm very dedicated to the Atari Jaguar. So dedicated I'm willing to try and run some ROMs on my Raspberry Pi. Not many people are willing to go through that much trouble.

[@datassetteuser356]

Well put. I love the Jag as well, although I was late to the party (bought mine at the end of 2020). But still early enough to get some very good deals on the most valuable games so that I could amass all games released between 93-96 plus Telegames releases after that and homebrew stuff. Not exactly sure why I love the Jag - maybe because I'm a sucker for underdog consoles and maybe because it was Atari's goodbye to the gaming world (well, the Sunnyvale Atari that is). Anyway, would not part with my collection for any price and really hope to see a Jaguar mini released some day. I'll buy a couple of them then! 😊 Cheers!

[@msd5808]

I was thinking of putting mine up for sale on eBay, so yes. Yes you should.

[@entertainmentwizard2703]

When I got the Jaguar about a decade ago and the games after I have spent a lot but I really like the Jaguar!

[@RandomBitzzz]

Great honest video about the Jag. My bother picked up one of these and a Virtual Boy through some catalog company that were selling them CHEAP. Any advice on how I can talk him out of it? He's just got it sitting in storage 🙂

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Like to get it for yourself? Id just say hey I want to buy a Jaguar and I'd rather give you the money for the one you just got sitting than pay somebody too much on eBay. I bought mine from my sister but I paid her eBay prices because I wanted to make sure she got decent money for it.

[@SoftBank47]

A couple years ago, there was some scuttlebutt about people working on Jaguar MiSTer cores, but it was all preliminary. Jotego is bogged down with a ton of projects and who knows if his team can get to the Jag. I'm hoping it can happen, and I'm confident that the DE-10 Nano can handle it since we have almost complete implementations of the Saturn and N64.

[@NoSpamForYou]

Just because something is rare doesn't mean it has value.

[@doomisforu]

I got my Jaguar from a local game shop around 2013 for around 50 with doom. It the only game I own. I actually wanted to play more, but until recently with flash cart being it wasn't worth spending hundreds or dollars per game.

[@genblob]

I love my Jaguar. It has some good games and the hardware kicks ass but I wouldn't recommend anyone that isn't an Atari fan to get one.

[@GregsGameRoom]

The Jag is really just for die hard Atari fans. And now that we have perfect emulation with BigPEmu all the games can be experienced by anyone. I hope Atari does a Jag Mini but there may not be too many attractive games since licensing fees for the heavy hitters would be cost prohibitive.

[@billcook4768]

No. That was easy. Next question.

[@Jolt7800]

Back in the day my brother and I went from a few 2600 consoles to the NES, then the SNES. I did not get another Atari console till a few years back with the 7800. I am on the side of being priced out of such a glorious console like the Jaguar. I am in the process of getting emulation set up on my PC, so I hope to play some of these cool games. I am happy for those who have this console. It’s a good feeling to have something rare and be in a kind of elite community.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

The prices are just awful really. It would be worth it for around 100-150 for the console and 10-60 a game, but these prices are insane. That's why I think a Jaguar Mini isn't a bad idea. Or heck release the games on steam for 4.99 like somebody else said! Maybe I could do a video on setting up a computer for Atari games in the future. Hmm...

[@Jolt7800]

I won’t mind an Atari emulation video at some point. I tried emulation when I was participating in the Atari Age high score contest. The game I was trying to play was Chuck Norris Super Kicks. Something went wrong and my Atari Chuck Norris was doomed to many beatings. It wasn’t my joystick adapter because I got my copy of Circus Convoy to play. I read something about updates, but then moved and just now finally got the PC out of the box. It’s a newer computer. I am definitely not tech savvy so that limits my trouble shooting. Anyone sorry to ramble on. I do have a lot of 2600 and 7800 carts to play.

[@mattbaker5757]

Though I didn't get the Jaguar upon release, '93 limited (lived nowhere near) or for the nation wide release later in '94. My chance arrived in January of '95. I payed full price, including one controller and the game Cybermorph. But during that time Atari had a special promotion that gave you a choice of a Jaguar game or second controller if you sent in the UPC off the Jaguar box. The choice of games was Wolfenstein 3D or Raiden. I chose Raiden as right after I mailed ordered my Jaguar I stumbled upon one lonely Jaguar controller and copy of Wolfenstein at a local game shop. Both used for half the price, so I bought them. Other than those, the first games I purchased, instead of the Jaguar CD I wanted to get right away, but was told it was not yet released even though they advertised it for sale already, I ordered Iron Soldier, AvP, Checkered Flag and Doom. A week after getting the Jaguar, I purchase Tempest 2000 and Hoverstrike from a mom & pop game shop I found in a town near my college. So for all of the above I payed about $650. I felt it was a great deal, and due to the timing of my purchase there were a handful of great games already released. Out of my initial 8 games I was only disappointed in Checkered flag due to poor controls. I never had the experiences I heard about with the long waits in between game releases or the unfortunate choices some Jaguar buyers/owners made with game purchases. Every game I bought I was blown away by, except one and I figured that was par for the course; 7 out of 8 games good to killer app quality, and one that was disappointing. I continued as a proud Jaguar owner, buying the Jaguar CD at final release price of $149 in fall of '95, including Blue Lightning, Vidgrid, T2K soundtrack and Myst demo. And ignored the Saturn and PSX releases as I had the with the outrageously priced 3DO and 32X(as I would have to buy the Genesis, CD unit and 32X to match the Jaguar & CD).I was content with my choice and most games, but when the Jaguar went Belly-up in early '96, I bought up a bunch of both good and bad games from the bargain bin for $5 each, as well as as pro-controller for $25. Then a few months later I found out about 3DO following the Jaguar and picked up a 3DO with two controllers and pack-in for $99 and a few more games at $5 bargain bin prices too. I hunkered down through the rest of that generation happy with my Jaguar & CD and 3DO system with combined libraries and continued game purchases at bargain bin pricing for both and didn't upgrade again until the release of the Sega Dreamcast. I've kept my collections mostly intact since, now worth thousands of dollars, which has caused me to at least think about selling them when I otherwise would never do. But definitely the Jaguar is overpriced unless you are a hardcore collector who is wealthy enough to not care about the cost. I'm glad I have mine already because I adore my Jaguar and even many new games that still come out in the indy and homebrew scene, but couldn't afford to start collecting for it now, I would if I could and didn't own it, but only due to my history with it. BUT, with the release of the Jaguar Game Drive you can now have nearly all games downloaded onto the SD card, old and new free ones. A pro-controller remake for $75 too. So for the cost of a working Jaguar base unit, $150 for the Game Drive and $75 for the pro-controller can get you all you need if you are more about retro gaming and not collecting. Still probably about $750, but that would include nearly every game less ones released in the past few years.

[@MarquisDeSang]

I want an Atari Jaguar+

[@GV42]

I'll be the first to say that I'm really glad that these consoles are getting more expensive these days because this is exactly what needed to happen, to prevent a shortage. I was somewhat disappointed when they used to sell under a hundred dollars because they didn't make or sell too many of these consoles back in the day and they will never make any more of them. So with them being overpriced, it could prevent anyone from just buying them. This prevents a shortage of these consoles. I know it sucks for those who just want to experience the console but it is what it is.

[@arnetrautmann9783]

"Supply" and "Demand" are - technically - two things.

[@Gaming-Enthusiast]

I got mine in 1996 , still have it ti this day 👌👌

[@TheExistentialNerd]

A Jag Mini would be cool. Especially for the HDMI support alone. I got started with my Jag collection a LONG time ago before the prices skyrocketed. However, the emulator that Atari 50 was released to the public with Atari's blessing. Well worth grabbing to test out those games before dropping cash, as video states. Also, if you have meaty hands...that controller isn't that bad.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I really like the Jag controller honestly. It's not bad if you have big mitts

[@madmax2069]

I bought one when they was for $20, and bought a bunch of games when they was only $1-$5 a pop. fast forward a few years it was stolen during a move back in 2000 along with a few of my other systems (childhood 2600, childhood NES, Vectrex, and Intellivision). I had no access to the Internet, I was in between jobs so I really didn't have a way to buy replacements. FF a few more years having income and access to the internet a Jaguar costed a few hundred which was out of my reach, now they're even more. So chances are slim I'll be able to buy another one.

[@bildo1977]

If anyone wants to get a Jaguar, get a Game Drive for it. The Game Drive also plays Jaguar CD ISOs.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

This is my next purchase for the Jaguar personally!

[@TheRealGara]

The barrier for entry is pretty intense these days. I wouldn't recommend it unless you go whole hog. Jaguar, Flash cart, Pro controller, and reproduction controller overlays. Just a reproduction Pro controller and overlays is $200+. The Pro controller improves the experience quite a bit. If it was the default I don't think that weird rumor of the controller being uncomfortable/bad would be so prevalent.

[@desiv1170]

Same here. I was at a Toy Liquidators store (that's the store name) and saw them for like $60 in the late 90s. I didn't do it, and I regret that. Oh well. :-)

[@demonology2629]

The only system I've never played. I've heard the music of KZbin from it and I tell you. The stereo separation is so great, perhaps I would dare, It sounds better than NINTENDO 64!!!

[@jimbox114]

I remember in the late 2000's you could buy a Jaguar for around $50.

[@IntoTheVerticalBlank]

Yes, I think so. I like my Jag. It needs more games and Atari can help promote and produce them name (fingers crossed)

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I like my jag too. I like it better the first time when stuff was cheaper lol but it's a fine niche console. I hope Atari does something with the Jaguar and games soon!

[@High_Caliber]

I've had one sitting in its box since they were liquidating them. I think I played it once, and then put it away, the games just weren't that great and Atari was on the way out. I think they were selling them off skids for $14 with two boxed games lol.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

In the box mint barely touched that thing will sell for a lot of you need you a nice chunk of change my friend! I wish I would've got one back then but hey, hindsight is 20/20

[@dad7275]

If you truly want a Jag and have sampled a few of it games and like what you played id say go for it. In the world of gaming its about getting and playing what you want. I own one and like Pro Gamer, my favorite is T2k and im also very fond of Breakout 2000. Raiden, Doom, is very fun too along with Atari Karts. Im one of the few who actually like Trevor Mcfur and Checkered Flag too (personal taste of course).

[@chazb8948]

I got the Atari Jaguar and still playing it, just got the gamedrive! Now I can play without removing the cartridges

[@TheAtariNetwork]

You lucky dog! That's one of my next big purchases as I can't afford all these games otherwise!

[@chazb8948]

Thought back then it was going to be around guess not, but still play them from time to time, here I don't have to be on all the time, like the online games. I was getting bothered with online gamers. LOL!@@TheAtariNetwork

[@ShadeofJeremy]

I was always curious about the Jaguar, but never got one I had my 2600 Jr and my Lynx. So I didn't get the Jaguar. I heard about it, but most of the games didn't appeal to me. But still I wondered about it. Now, it wouldn't be worth the time and money I'd have to invest in it. But if they were to make a mini, well I could go for that.

[@astra6712]

I’ll wait for the Jaguar mini to come out

[@williamgregg8062]

I wanted a Jaguar for over a decade and I missed out on two chances. By the time I had disposable income to get into game collecting I ended up getting a Saturn instead and since then already have sunk about a thousand into it. I deeply regret not getting a Jaguar when I could but it’s simply too late for me.

[@decoyoctopus]

I only had one so I could play Tempest 2000 but when Atari 50 came out that was my last reason to keep it. That and it broke. The only game I really wanted to try was that mutant penguin game because that looked like a drug addled inspiration

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I'll be honest I didn't like that mutant penguin game. I see a lot of people praise it but I just didn't care for it but it's been years since I played it

[@BuzzsawGaming]

I LOVE my Jaguar! The quirky beast is pure fun.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Buzzsaw is victorious

[@Mrshoujo]

Bought mine & CD Rom & have never considered selling it.

[@mikejohnson699]

I used to own a complete collection including cd player and all the accessories. My roommate magically lost it all. I suggest you save money and run BigPemu instead

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I bet they "lost" it all. That's a shame. Yeah I heard Jaguar emulation is much better today...

[@TobeyStarburst]

Love my Jag

[@pierregareau6590]

It's sad that it's too pricey now, it would be better if they a Jaguar mini like the Atari 400 mini that will emulate the original, what you mean by an Atari Jaguar + ? Thanks for the video

[@invaderboy7187]

Give you a sub great vid thank you :-)

[@danielespeziari5545]

I was almost going to buy one three years ago, but I'm thankful I didn't. The console has a lot of charm, but I don't have enough room in my house for a system that only has 10 or so good games (I recently did this for the Philips Videopac, that also has a very small library, but that console is WAY cheaper). Besides, the Jaguar seems to excel in a particular genre that I don't care for (FPS). However, I'd definitely buy a Jag mini

[@lucian2701]

If Atari released a mini there'd be no doom, rayman or AvP (and I don't think they have the license for Iron soldier either). Aside from T2K there aren't many other games worth playing on it (I have a Jag and I love it but it really doesn't have many exclusive games really worth buying). It's just not worth paying for one now, especially since Atari50 and from that the apparently excellent BigPEemu . Get a 3D0 instead, or if the ST conversions interest you get an ST - they're great computers (well ok, they're not, but partly thanks to the 'other' 16 influence at the time it's a machine that's been pushed beyond limits I doubt anyone involved in it's creation thought possible)

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Atari 400 mini will allow you to load more games with a USB stick. Do the same thing for the Jaguar Mini. Problem solved. It's also about the aesthetic and just wanting one to have. I was never really happy emulating and there are others like me. I never saw anything wrong with it but it's definitely not the same experience.

[@lurkerrekrul]

I can understand the high prices for Jaguar stuff. What I want to know is why games for the original Xbox cost so damn much. Why are some games $30+ for just a bare disc and $50-120 for a complete copy? Was the Xbox a system where they only made a limited number of games, and each game was only produced in a limited quantity? Or were the games mass produced by the thousands, or even million? If the latter, why do they now cost so much?

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Original Xbox costs a lot now? I still have mine It's one of the few things I kept among the years along with my 7800 but none of the Xbox stuff was worth much last I checked...

[@CP-ih6zq]

There is a tempest x3 for the ps1, that is similar and also has more. Not sure the price or rarity of it.

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

Plus, you can unlock Tempest 2000 on it via a cheat code.

[@federicocatelli8785]

Good games are a very few, exclusives ...you can count them on one hand

[@hamphlet]

2600, XL, XE, ST, STE, Lynx and Jaguar. Down the years I've had a lot of Atari gear. Much of it is still in my loft. I didn't know the Jaguar had become so valuable. I wonder if it still works? 🙂

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Might be worth a look eh?

[@generalzod7959]

i've looked at the jag system and all that stuff and frankly, i was underwhelmed by the games i saw on the system. not just the lack of offerings but the graphics often looked _much_ closer to what you would see on a 16 bit system. can't really say i ever saw anything that looked better than what i saw on a playstation 1. and i never saw anything from it that rivaled the n64 back in the days.

[@MotownBatman]

Well.... My Dad wouldn't listen too me every time I tried to get him to look at the ads when we walked outta KMart... Might have to listen to dad still lol

[@sneescampers]

probably better off with a saroo saturn if that's the kind of thing you want to do.

[@austinwillcut4919]

How much are the Jaguar ports of Primal Rage and Doom going for?

[@undeadsamurai8590]

Too much

[@kranibal]

Very well made video! I appreciate your genuine honest takes on this console. I am one of those fools who had to get a Jaguar a few years ago.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Love that you have Plok as an icon. And I'm one of those fools who bought one a few months ago...again lol

[@TheAtariCreep]

I don't think it's worth what is being asked honestly. The Jag at this point is a status piece more than a collectable console. It's a shame. Fun console for what it is.

[@starrybear9778]

Bought a Jaguar right when it was released, even had the CD drive. In hindsight the only thing worthwhile playing was T2K. Jaguar emulation never was right until recently so the only way to play was with original hardware. Sure, there were "some" good games but many were ports of games on other systems. I have Atari 50 so I now have T2K again and it performs better than it did originally on the Jaguar. Anyone can now use BigPEmu and play Jaguar stuff for free.

[@jumblejag6197]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYDRg4B7ea2nars

[@Gaming-Enthusiast]

Dino dudes , doom and zool2 are my favourites

[@TheAtariNetwork]

Those are some good choices! 👍👌👍

[@Gaming-Enthusiast]

@@TheAtariNetwork flashback is another I love replaying

[@thegreatgario3478]

well on the emulation front jaguar has come a *long* way with this emulator, in particular: www.richwhitehouse.com/jaguar/index.php if you're interested in jaguar emulation definitely check it out, it's pretty darn good for the cartridges

[@asap_zonk9159]

I bought a complete collection last month

[@Rk3tSk8s-ut4yo]

No. Owned one a few times. Had the CD drive and the game drive more recently. Sold it all. Just emulate it now there are great emulators. Its 30+ year old tech with a lot of pretty poor games.

[@erockbrox8484]

You buy the console then buy the flash cart. This way you get all of the games. Buying expensive cartridges that cost hundreds is not the way to go.

[@Starblazers2199]

I would buy a Jag mini.

[@Mekaneckpain]

BigPEmu seems to be a pretty good emulator...

[@KrunchyTheClown78]

I bought my jag for $330 last year, and it came with cybermorph.

[@willymagi9253]

Dude I literally just seen one for that price and jumped on it thinking it’s a good deal, now I’m a little regretting it cause don’t know if I’ll play it that much

[@KrunchyTheClown78]

@@willymagi9253 there are always homebrew games that are coming out for the Jag, you could get the Jaguar game drive too.

[@marklechman2225]

I’ve had one for years. It’s not my favorite Atari console and I’m an Atari fanboy to the bone. I definitely find myself playing my Lynx way more than my Jag. Fact is, most of the Jaguar’s games suck. They just do and we all know it. AvP, Tempest and Iron Soldier are all fun, but other than that there’s little to love. Wolfenstein is pretty good too, I guess.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

It's really a feast or famine in my experience. The games are either really good or really bad. I didn't mention it in the video but I'm really impressed by skyhammer!

[@tangreen7267]

Should you sink hundreds into Jaguar Hardware and games ? No. Unless you are really into the homebrew scene.

[@jonniefast]

jag is the next neogeo aes

[@jonniefast]

i have a handful of carts never parting with it

[@JS_2099]

Have people tried getting the Jaguars that were repurposed for medical machines and reflashing them with the original BIOS?

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I think the internals are all different. It was the molds for the casing they purchased.

[@kevinstrade2752]

Is it worth it? Depends. Depends on what one expects...if you do your research and maybe emulate some games and you still want one, sure its worth it. If you think its going to be like the Turbo Grafx and have lots of good games that simply were out elbowed by other good games, harsh realities ahead. I got a majority of mine back in the day, so it was worth it. I even stood in line at EB for the Jaguar CD...I knew it was going to collectable back then... Today the prices are through the roof...unless you are a millionare, or a big enough Atari fan...do some work and see if its worth it for you.

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

Loved my Jaguar at the time, day 1 UK purchase, but.. AVP has dated horribly, Alien Resurrection on the PlayStation eclipsed it at the time, then PC AVP.. Loved Iron Solider, far better than 32X Metal Head T2K is far more playable than T4K but you don't need a Jaguar to play it today. The systems library is far too limited to justify the absurd prices it goes for today, so, NO it's not worth the investment.

[@binaryrooster]

The design that means when you load your save game in AVP and it respawns everything you've killed (and gives you limited ammo) is an abysmal idea.

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

​@@binaryroosterEven worse, for a title where the 2 development teams worked so closely in other areas, with the source material, the Ruddy acid blood puddles not disappearing. In the films, it eats through floor plating and combat armour, in mere seconds, yet in the game, it remains there. Major design flaw.

[@tangreen7267]

Everybody ( Diehard Gamefan Magazine ) and others gushed over AvP. I'd bought a Jag from a friend and popped it in....the framerate sucked so bad it reminded me of ghost manor on 3d0. A real disappointment. Then I popped in " Trever McFurr " and thought my Jag had morphed into a Genesis. Jaguar wasn't worth the cost back then, and it sure as hell isn't worth the cost, now.

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

​@@tangreen7267Jane Whittaker running his spaghetti A. I code on the 68000 killed the frame rate on AVP, it could of been so, so much more, with optimised A I routines.

[@tangreen7267]

​@@thefurthestmanfromhome1148 , thanks for your insight. I think Jaguar can do better, but I guess that's up to people like you to prove. All I know is some Python, and, even though the code can be compiled to C, I wouldn't even know where to start. Thanks again !

[@RockyP77]

You have something very Karl Jobst about your delivery

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I don't know if I should be offended or happy. And honestly I don't know who that is so I'm just going to say Thank You!

[@joey69d]

I do wish I would have bought one sooner. 2002 I finally got mine. Not many really good games. Honestly, not many games. The ones that are good are a damn good time. So much drivel on this system for such a small library though

[@greybush38]

Has ANYONE watching this video ever heard of BigPEmu? If your can't afford it, emulate it!

[@TheAtariNetwork]

I heard it about 5 times today and I'm sure those comments will keep coming. By all means emulate it and enjoy it, and use it to decide if want to collect the physical copies. But it doesn't change the fact that these things are expensive.

[@lilg8017]

Not interested. Although it is a fascinating console and I like the style of it. The only nostalgia I have is seeing it in the toy store.

[@TheChelnov]

Jaguar and Atari didn't have the third party sport as Nintendo and sony had otherwise Jaguar would have done decent job. Also ps2 was not easy to program and even ps3, but both were most sucessful consoles due to third party support and Sony wise decisions.

[@TheAtariNetwork]

The Jaguar had a spectacular list of third party supporters to start. A lot of people were interested and signed on, but Atari was unable to deliver any documentation or tools to help programmers. When developers called for support they were either ignored or sometimes left hanging for weeks at a time before hearing a response. So a ton of companies dropped support quickly. We did an interview with Ted Tahquechi who was an employee for Atari Corp during the time of the Jaguar and he had some great insights into what made the console a failure. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHTWaHZoi9itZ5Isi=QhXMrSEJ6ed8zq7S The more I talk with these former employees and people involved with the company, the more apparent it becomes that we are so lucky to still have Atari in any form today. Thanks for the comment and thoughts!

[@TobeyStarburst]

I thought Jag sold 250k