Should you Trust a Volvo Automatic Transmission? - 2009 Volvo S80 D5 (Aisin TF-80SC Review)

Hi Guys,
In todays video i discuss Volvos Aisin TF-80SC transmission, how to care for it and what makes it reliable!
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[@jabbathehut9587]

I have a 2009 S 80 D5 A and with 385000 km on it ! never had a issue with the gearbox or anything else ..! Just change the oil from the gearbox even when Aisin don`t recomment it... Take care of your car and it keeps running ...

[@mustafabalc7559]

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[@martin.trading]

@@mustafabalc7559 english please.

[@wacman]

Fully flushed mine at 89k and 2 sump dumps since and now on 116k. The sump dumps are really easy to do having a drain plug, drain out in to a measuring container when cold and put the same back in with new fluid. A dump will change approx 2.1lt, do that 3 times and you will almost have changed it all. A full flush for £180 seems cheap with correct oil being expensive.

[@paulgilraine3127]

I was thinking about doing the same thing as you so I was glad to see your post I've got 80000 miles on the clock now and the cars a 2009 so I think it's just about time to get it changed , could you do me a favor and tell me what transmission oil you used and where did you get it .

[@richardpickering2452]

They hold 7 Litres of fluid and a sump dump releases approximately 3 Litres, Do this every 20,000 miles and they last forever, Mobil3309 or the Toyota version available from Toyota.

[@areart666]

I have the same car, with a mileage of 366,000 km, the gearbox changes gears smoothly, the oil changes every 100,000 km, after the oil change I do the adaptation of the gearbox.

[@SalvisJelinskis]

Hey, how do you do adaptation process?

[@jeangenie68]

.54 seconds in. "It's a standard 6 speed.. single clutch" It has a clutch?

[@rhvre]

You said "bulletproof if looked after properly" - is there anything else to look after, other than oil changes every 100 000km (and not putting a torque'ier engine in that it could handle), or is there something else you meant with this?

[@drivelife.channel]

Nothing else I didn't already mention in the video :)

[@damcyk4]

I know its subtitles, but I found it very helpfull: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ-tZ3Stepd5jJI

[@Lancer2884]

Funny thing is that Aisin recommends oil changes and Volvo doesn't 🤣

[@jabbathehut9587]

It never hurts to change the oil !

[@Lancer2884]

@@jabbathehut9587 I changed twice since I bought mine. Volvo as a company doesn't need Your car to run forever ;)

[@rolliseventeen]

its the same with bmw. ZF and Aisin say do it, bmw says its lifetime. i think lifetime is about 4 yrs.

[@damcyk4]

@@rolliseventeen I get to the conclusion: lifetime; is a standard lease length, up to 5 yrs old. after that you`re on Your own.

[@g0fvt]

A very easy transmission to change the fluid on, the downside is that they do not have a pan you can drop to change the filter. The gearbox should be at 50-60c when the level is checked, a lot of people worry that they need VIDA to set this, easier to use a cheap laser thermometer on the housing. Arguably an easier job than changing the engine oil.

[@olofanderberg9392]

Or just use Autocom, Torque pro or something. IR thermometer on the housing wont be acurate at all.

[@borislazic659]

Is it safe to change oil on used car with around 150.000 km (around 95.000 miles) without previous oil changes? Because there are a lot of cases where oil change on high mileage cause problems.

[@ar12.]

So with 170k km on my xc60 t6 2009 should I change it it’s occasionally not smooth but underload runs very well would a change be worth it at this many kms or more dangerous.

[@felipeandres3987]

Would you recommend changing fluids in a 2009 s80 185hp d5 with 128,000 km? regards

[@drivelife.channel]

Yep!

[@rafterkim1]

I have S80 D5 2007 100k miles when I purchased last year at 91k miles.I changed all fluid(engine,brake,power&ATF). Castrol transmax 20L 60USD My mechanic it changed drain method 4times service fee all fluid changed 180 USD. When fluid temperature low gear change little sticky but after minutes drive well very reliable mission no doubt.

[@joramotorsportteam3277]

How to change oil for this Gearbox model?

[@skaartj1]

Have you seen volvosweden he has some good info on the P3 platform but i believe he drives an xc70

[@drivelife.channel]

Yes he has a great channel!

[@aleylecategambafly5565]

Thanks for sharing it. I have an Aisin TF-80SC trasmission on a Peugeot 308 CC. I have 89.000km. Peugeot tell to not change oil, it's lifetime (lifetime=200.000km for Peugeot). My seller tell to not change oil 'cause he saw many Aisin that after doing that have problems. And my seller also saw many automatic trasmission without oil change with over 200.000km... I'm a little confused... what to do?!? I make not more than 8.000 km in 1 year, the car is ten years age... I'm thinking to not change oil and keep the car for 5-6 years... so km will be 140.000 without oil change..... What to you?! I'm confused......... thanks for your attention!!! Regards

[@drivelife.channel]

to be safe, change the fluid every 80 000 km :)

[@tellyonthewall8751]

60.000 km according to AW them selves .. under severe conditions .. aka driving in 30 degree C environment, mountain terrain, hauling trailers, mainly city driving, etc. .. and remember .. NO automatic flush system!!!! NEVER!!!! .. has to be done manually ..

[@erikgraver7794]

@@tellyonthewall8751 Why is that?

[@tellyonthewall8751]

@@erikgraver7794 Why is what?

[@jonsnell4751]

My V70 has just turned 200,000miles and original ATF. Could be A iSin to change it now.🤣

[@drivelife.channel]

Thats an amazing achievement! 😁😁😁👌👌👌

[@Christerart]

Your driving on borrowed time..:). Pull the transmission check stick and look and smell the fluid. is it dark brown and smell burnt? Should be red.

[@tellyonthewall8751]

Now you don't mention year of, type of "autobox" and your using conditions (like hauling trailers. driving in the mountains, hot area, etc) but with 200 K on the clock, keep it original Volvo ATF oil ... do NOT go for all them promises of the diff. ATF oil sellers. The Volvo oil is a mineral oil and will be the best choice looking at whats in the box now .. buy 1 times the amount of oil needed and do a change (same out, same in). Safe the original oil .. if you get some "funny" gear shifting behavior after 1. oil change .. drain new oil out and put old oil in again ASAP !! If it's back to normal, leave it like it is (it will require a refurbish of the gearbox, solenoids, etc. Too much of "the goodies"are out in the oil) If no "funny stuff" shifting gear, change a second time again after 500 miles and a third time after another 500 miles (still same out, same in) Hope it is usefull .... From a VISTA mechanic

[@Christerart]

@@tellyonthewall8751 I have no idea what a Vista mechanic is so have no idea how much credence to give your statement. However, my experience with four auto Volvos (two V70's, two XC70's, three 5 speeds and one 6 speed box - three of which are/were Volvo's Geartronic and with mileage from 158K to 232K in the last five years) has been that immediately when I bought them I did a partial dump with Mannol JWS 3309 and a bottle of Lubeguard Red. Depending on how well the transmission shifted I'd do another partial dump in a couple hundred miles or in a thousand miles and then repeat every three thousand miles. They all worked perfectly when I sold them and the two I have now are smooth as butter. These transmissions are made by Toyota and as long as the fluid meets Toyota's spec they will do the job - Mannol's JWS 3309 has worked perfectly for a fraction of the price of Volvo's. The five speed autos are easy to do a partial dump - just suck out as much as you can - usually 3.5 liters, replace and you're good - just make sure it's in the required range on the stick - easy to not put back enough. The six speed is different - you need access to Volvo's VIDA software and need to get under the car to do the procedure. You can buy VIDA and an old laptop on the web for not much money.

[@vffa]

@@Christerart yes and no. Sometimes, especially when the car already has a high mileage, doing a ATF change can do more harm than good. It's rare but it happens.

[@kmom777]

Hi I know you are geeky about volvo I am planning to change my s80 2.5T 6th geartronic asin to xc90 T6 petrol with the problematic gearbox model by GM 4T65EV now mechanic say stay away but is exactly in my price range and is powerfull enough for me read on a forum there is option to upgrade this transmission with new springs or even some high compression oil chamber and this fixex bad engineering by GM but couldn't find any internet article or video about what upgrade from where to buy it etc do you have any thoughts on the T6 with GM gearbox otherwise engine is rock solid.

[@UnderTheRadar1976]

Yeah definitely trust it myself s40 t4 was excellent till all the ice and snow in Scotland then it died but did have 190,000 on the clock £150 later and I replaced it

[@edijares1543]

Aisin is one of the best manufacturers of transmissions. But then I'm not believer of "lifetime fluid". There is no such thing. If you believe in changing your engine oil, you should think the same for your gearbox.

[@rmain534]

Got my volxo xc60 2014 car keeps jerking when moving off. Car is automatic. Volvo telling me to buy a brand new gear box. Surely there is a way of fixing this issue without spent 8 grand

[@nodwaa9227]

Where are you taking it? Volvo quoted me 250 for mine changing. Currently on 82k miles so definitely getting to the point I want it changing

[@drivelife.channel]

It is an independent specialist :)

[@nodwaa9227]

@@drivelife.channel my local independent told me to leave it alone. Which I'm not going to listen to. But have found another local auto gear box repairers 10 minutes away. Seem to have to very happy customers so I may try them. But overall the box feels solid. It's a little lumpy and low speeds. But changes effortlessly when I have my foot down 😁

[@anumichael9925]

Is it necessary to do with a volvo specialist or is it ok to do in local garrage?

[@nodwaa9227]

@@anumichael9925 Volvo updated my software so worth going to them

[@anumichael9925]

@@nodwaa9227 is it very expensive compare to other local workshops. Mine is a 2012 S60 D5 Automatic. I recently taken it and not done anything due to worried about the cost

[@blixtkrig]

Can i buy one whit 450k on the clock worried about the gearbox

[@ar12.]

So with 170k km on my xc60 t6 2009 should I change it it’s occasionally not smooth but underload runs very well would a change be worth it at this many kms or more dangerous.

[@JP5isalive]

Hi, I've recently discovered your channel and subscribed 👍. Your Volvo S80 videos interest me in particular. I'm looking to buy a V60 from 2014 onwards but I have no idea who makes the gearboxes. Are all Volvo gearboxes Aisin?. Many thanks

[@julianporter5]

What goes wrong with the transmission on the XC90 T6?

[@dummag4126]

🤪🤪 how can you change with left hand!!! Omg!!

[@tirivaenim]

No. Recently had to replace a whole gearbox 😢

[@ondrejjanoska660]

Well why would you be pushing diesel volvo anyways? Volvo are to be Driven safely from a to b ....is not a Sports car.... i love my V70 with this gerabox.....227 000km with the original oil in gear Box...so i maybe change it in Summer. Cheers

[@santimalbran2355]

What year is your v70?

[@kolbpilot]

If I'm correct, the fluid for this is nothing more than ATF-4, which is the synthetic version of ATF-3. So, even ATF-3 would work in this transmission with no problems. The fluid being the standard for many earlier American transmissions.

[@Motors.n.Floaters]

"Old unreliable a.w ones" whilst talking about an a.w transmission.

[@NipunDhanraj]

Just bought one with 213k miles, smooth shifting, they never changed fluid on it 😮

[@evilphoebus]

Interesting. Which year? V70?

[@NipunDhanraj]

@@evilphoebus 2010

[@NipunDhanraj]

@@evilphoebus xc90

[@robertasviskupaitis9195]

also Aisin transmission is practically a Toyota transmission :)

[@JimmyJamesonJnr]

Got tf80sc with an error code "p0895" and "low transmission performance", its on a volvo v50 2012 I did the GB oil in December, its been shifting ok and I've cleared the error using a ODB reader, any thing to look out for, car has just done 200k miles

[@drivelife.channel]

I would continue to change the fluid every 30-50k now just to keep the box running well! you could do a fluid flush which often solves a lot of issues in these gearboxes :)

[@someoneinsweden3]

In sweden its 500£ to flush it :(.

[@gemeinsamesfamilienkonto3304]

Better than 5000 to repair it ...🤔

[@lucabazzocchi8237]

Is it safe to flush at 271k miles ? Can it cause slipping if i put in new oil or should i filter the old fluid and mix 50/50 with new fluid

[@Leo-the-lion1974]

Pokemon Exactly what I was thinking. Mine has 175,000 miles.

[@donovangebert7003]

271k 😭 I hope mine lasts that long have you had any major issues with it?

[@RobertSanLuis]

what model years of Volvo have this generation of transmission? what model years should be avoided?? thanks.

[@tellyonthewall8751]

DON'T buy a Volvo with a GM auto gearbox!!! NEVER!!! .. TF-71SC, TF-80SC, TF-80SD, TF-81SC ... the 80 and 81 in AWD too... buy buy .. Only seen on the gearbox now

[@danielhirsch6908]

If Volvo says that u dont need to flush or change the oil in the geartronic-gearbox why bother? As long as the gearbox is shifting fine. Its like going to the toilet when u dont need to.

[@jasper_north]

You don’t have S mode do you?

[@drivelife.channel]

nope :)

[@yorkshirelad5280]

You do if you pop it into semi auto and leave it the gearbox goes into Sport mode

[@jinxed_jinxed_3443]

@@yorkshirelad5280 Dead right :D

[@jasondavies625]

I've comfort,sport and advanced, tbh doesn't make a lot of difference

[@jasper_north]

@@jasondavies625 But if you push right on the stick- your gear is in S mode?

[@hungryboy424]

My 2011 has just started to clunk when putting in to drive when warmed up ! 61,000 miles !

[@drivelife.channel]

Get that fluid changed and you should be fine :)

[@BigPaco66]

Check your upper torque rod. I had the same problem and this fixed it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aIfRdat9gdCshac

[@hungryboy424]

@@BigPaco66 Just checked this mount, no movement at all !

[@paulspark7287]

I just bought a 2009 XC70 - 122,000kms and I'm needing a valve body replacement and possibly TCM.. I wouldn't call these transmissions bulletproof that's for sure.

[@vffa]

Does your transmission make grinding noises and vibrate?

[@paulspark7287]

@@vffa No, not at all. I had the valve body replaced and the transmission has been fine since. The car does have another issue which I have yet to identify..

[@vffa]

@@paulspark7287 Ah ok. Thanks for the info anyways. I have a weird grinding noise while accelerating and vibration at 100km/h. Still looking for a few hints what exactly is broken but i guess I'll have to bring it to a specialist.

[@paulspark7287]

@@vffa Definite grinding as opposed to vibration of the engine through the car? Just wondering if your engine mounts are OK? Definitely not your wheel bearings? A common fault is the diff bearings too. Mine used to make grinding noises at lower speed - but that was more noticeable when easing off on the throttle at slower speeds.

[@rmain534]

@@paulspark7287 how much did that cost

[@ZanderKaneUK]

Are these Dual clutch transmissions? or Manual boxes with a computer changing gear?

[@samuelparviainen1382]

These are regular torque converter automatics.

[@bosewaverocks]

I’ve heard stories about not to touch the transmission fluid? What do you recommend? 2009 s80 82k miles should I change fluid. They said if you change the car won’t shift properly after etc.

[@Tamak_]

bosewaverocks Change it. There are enough horrors stories about the transmissions. When changing the oil the transmission module has to be reset aswell as it adapts to the age of the oil in the transmission.

[@patobannon6964]

Hi Dave, I have just purchased a 2013 Volvo XC60 with 141000 miles. The maintenance light has come on for what I believe is the 150,000 miles service check. I asked my local independent Volvo mechanic to give me an estimate for the things to be done and he sent me a quote for changing the Serpentine Idler pulley, Serpentine belt, and Serpentine Tensioner. Also to do an oil service and filter change as well. Total cost around $800. Is that all I should be looking to do? Also I don't believe the Transmission fluid has been changed as of yet. Should I do a staged change out or can a do a complete change of fluid (not flushing it).

[@tirivaenim]

Check your vacuum lines, they tend to crack and break. Get transmission fluid changed and ensure you put in correct “high quality” fluid, no skimping here!