ONE MORE THOUGHT: IF YOU'RE IN THE LATE GAME ALREADY, AND YOU HAVEN'T MAXED MINA, at that point I'd say that you can skip it. Now you've got access to more powerful commanders, focus any investments into those commanders instead. The leverage with mina is 1) early game and 2) transition to late game.
@bradgilbert67188 ай бұрын
True. Mina is one of the best early game investments though as the rewards you get from events, canyons, etc. add up quickly and those end up providing you better opportunities to develop quicker too. Its the compounding of benefits that helps you elevate your game AND status in the kingdom.
@Al-ze6uo8 ай бұрын
Why do the video now😅 when the new cav commenders will be here in about a month🤔
@formersimp-v9g3 ай бұрын
hey Chisgule, is 5-5-1-1 minamoto better than 5-1-1-5? obviously requires a lot of luck to get 5-1-1-5, but assuming it's possible, isn't the 4th skill's buff to all damage (even if only a % chance) better than a buff to attack and march speed? especially given how common it is to get attack buffs with equipment, skins etc
@catofgood3 ай бұрын
Hello, I have a few more questions about minamoto where can I ask them
@phil91042 күн бұрын
Relatively new to ROK. What do you mean by early and late game?
@pwon8 ай бұрын
Nice throwback to when i watched all your commander videos when i first started playing. How time (ahem, money) flies!
@moobiegrows20028 ай бұрын
Thankfully, I already have him expertise going into kvk1 😅. I was relieved to know it wasn't a waste.
@Burritobean-kw4du8 ай бұрын
My favorite type of videos! Cant wait for early commander guide
@SONNYLCR8 ай бұрын
When I entered SoC and I started working on Nevsky/Joan I was happy to have Mina/Mehmed both with double relic. And even when Nev/Joan became my primary cav march.. Mina/Mehmed still held second cav March for a loooong time. Never regretted the Mina ❤
@lizardjesus30608 ай бұрын
Glad to know his expertise still worth
@KingJack45678 ай бұрын
Being in kvk 2 rn with Mina expertised helps so much
@JohnnyWZ8 ай бұрын
Rn? Mean right now?
@lxstt16 ай бұрын
Он у вас экспертный?
@RapidNack5 ай бұрын
Debating expertising him rn right before kvk2. Worth?
@alnassir_8 ай бұрын
Mina is the investment that just keep giving and giving
@Nomoregameover8 ай бұрын
Can't buy him but still watched full video 😁
@KiroNoKenshi8 ай бұрын
Chisgule, another great video brother! Been watching you since the beginning and am amazed by how far you’ve come. Keep up the great work and top tier videos!
@lizardjesus30608 ай бұрын
With his expertise, his skill is also casted slightly faster
@anonymous-ud6vo8 ай бұрын
Can you please show us the testing for why you use Joan as the primary to Nevsky?
@markgallardo93807 ай бұрын
New user here and just bought it, this video is really helpful
@STRATOSPERGANTIS7 ай бұрын
Here comes the money money money
@juliasg22178 ай бұрын
It is worth for rally barbarians! don't upgrade him if you are not a whale. This is a sponsored video, Lilith wants you paying for Mina. In SoC you're dead if you use him to fight. Literally nobody will avoid targeting you if they see a Minamoto. NOBODY.
@MusTanG_318 ай бұрын
I am a returning player to Rise of Kingdoms and i really like your vídeos, they help me alot! With this new one “updating” Minamoto I wonder if you can do the Same with the remain commanders 😅 Most of the vídeos i saw are yours but from 3 years ago. Keep up the good work 💪🏼
@mous_10208 ай бұрын
Love the editing 😍
@DarkSiegeROK8 ай бұрын
I'm in a C kingdom. Nev/Mino does very well. No regrets
@AlexanderGkamanis8 ай бұрын
yessss we got the good camera for rok vids now too. gg
@shawnsubin32958 ай бұрын
Love the new editing style
@Grz-ug7ts8 ай бұрын
thank you for this video. I need this.👍👍
@entitledopinion50623 ай бұрын
Thank you. Have to push 2 accounts so was wondering if I should max Minamoto on the 2nd account haha
@StarLight102608 ай бұрын
this is so helpfull kvk is almost here and i wanted to see if i can use him or not
@Chica19378 ай бұрын
I love the editing!
@PatrickAlcaraz8 ай бұрын
Chisgule, I'm playing in chinese server and did you know that the VIP commander is Double C? XD
@rgortar6 ай бұрын
Why is my skill tree show different from this video?
@DarkSiegeROK8 ай бұрын
For those new to SOC, who is the best match Nev (maybe yes), Joan or Huo? You alluded to the question, but never answered it. Thx
@justinkalkhof59918 ай бұрын
Im in SoC now with plans to go back to kvk 2 later this year. I have mina 5314. Should i get him to 5515 is he also good at this level?
@jhongsutil39728 ай бұрын
Im using mina for my 2nd march for now nevsky/joan then hou/mina 😅
@trungdo11998 ай бұрын
Is Hou/mina better than Hou/Will ?
@KubekDoKawy8 ай бұрын
1 minute after the release of the video lol, have a nice day Chis
@ohnoes97998 ай бұрын
I think you probably wouldn’t use him too much as a secondary now. Unless you unlocked the expertise in early kd days that is.
@MG02118 ай бұрын
I'm using him with navasky awesome also 😎
@SVGrokzero8 ай бұрын
I'm no whale but I've maxed Mina and everytime there's a barbarian event I always use my Minamoto, coz heck I've spend money and I'm getting my money's worth! 😂😂
@EdHeavey8 ай бұрын
Ive found huo/hera the chain king now.....add tetsuo formation....minkya!....mina/hera saves the ap
@mrpopo42438 ай бұрын
YSG next?!
@RR-19608 ай бұрын
5XXX mina is still good. For low spend it is good plus the additonal books of covenant. Yeah don't max him in the end game, rather spend it on mats.
@sayedulmursalinsadat53212 ай бұрын
I got confused what talent tree should I build for Minamoto 😂
@madara88098 ай бұрын
Quick question: Does aethelflaed work with mina? aethelflaed secondary
@EA-ol5hl5 ай бұрын
Yup I actually use mina ethel from kvk1 to 3 and i'm getting great result but be wary of it cuz it's very squishy so wotk on your equipment and tech that all gives health
@KushiroAlbion8 ай бұрын
At first I was planning 5111 but people said 5511 minimum and will be usable until kvk2 (or something about kvk3). I'm mostly f2p but I'm not sure if I'll push that one. Another thing, sleeper or jumper? Group or solo? Only did a solo jump so far so if I'll 5511 mina, I want to make sure I won't regret it😂
@KushiroAlbion8 ай бұрын
If sleeper, planning to follow logic bank (but not the challenge, just the power to join top alliance) but probably will not use gem for keys and merchant refresh, don't know if that will be good or not
@markbright7958Ай бұрын
And what I have to do with Baibars with him...? Its enough 5511 or 5555 totally boosted ? Tanx
@jimibones1788 ай бұрын
Generating too much rage is worth it for the extra rage when you're not generating too much rage, except when it's with Pelagius?
@josephprice47017 ай бұрын
chisgule should we use barbara as primary or secondary with mina
@丢.雷.楼.某7 ай бұрын
Only Lilith’s dog will ask you max minamoto
@moeheinaung2358 күн бұрын
Mina + Baibars, Mina + CC, Mina + Mehmed. What is best early game?
@PickleRoK4 ай бұрын
minamoto and charles martel is good or no cavs troops
@milad36758 ай бұрын
new editing is much better
@eduardodiaz9978 ай бұрын
Is nevski Mina still a thing (as a rally)?
@johnlandrigan65788 ай бұрын
New players spending then yes on Minimomo. everybody else no. FTP wont get minimomo anyway. He has a great first relic 25 20. 30 30 on the second relic for 1800 extra coins is not so hot. Aeth is a much better value and she is free for all.
@SherrySplash7 ай бұрын
I have Minamoto as primary, who is the best for secondary, Baibars or Cao Cao or Mehmed? For PvP btw
@travispratt63277 ай бұрын
Doesn’t matter, 99.9% of PvP fights you’re in the winner is going to be determined by who spent the most money.
@serjeydavid22126 ай бұрын
Surprised you still use green equipment on Mina 😮
@LordFrey198 ай бұрын
Do this on Richard too ♥
@nicdiamond99898 ай бұрын
Can I use Nevsky mina end game ? (Mina being 5511)
@mvmniko8 ай бұрын
what about xy mina since i dont have justinian
@hanzo22388 ай бұрын
Hey chisgule any leaks on the upcoming cav commander??
@RandyRodgirth8 ай бұрын
Chisgule doesn’t cover leaks because he’s a sponsored creator. Lillith doesn’t like creators covering leaks.
@hanzo22388 ай бұрын
@@RandyRodgirth lol i saw his video covering leaks on herman prime last December
@RandyRodgirth8 ай бұрын
@@hanzo2238 any video he made about Herman prime wasn’t a leak, if Lillith announced the details on another platform it’s not a leak, just a commander preview at that point. Leaks are when something is, you know, leaked 😂. He’s literally said it himself in multiple other videos.
@brandonsung39078 ай бұрын
Is ysg still rellavent?
@beckhydda5 ай бұрын
do I do minamoto x mehmed 2 or minamoto x cao cao
@samuelrivera15478 ай бұрын
Dragon lancer #1, combined with centurion, better than Nevsky Joan
@madbournegaming8 ай бұрын
Guys is paying $200 only way to max Mimomoto ?? Could you please advise how to grow without paying that much ? Only with epic leaders or what ?
@Chisgule8 ай бұрын
Yes, the only way to get minamoto is by buying him. Other commanders you can get for free, and are better than minamoto. That will require you to be in the end game.
@xylooo_8 күн бұрын
U should get me max minamota😎
@Nicky777488 ай бұрын
Nah, don't belive this, Lilith know that not so many people Expert Mina right now, that's why Lilith Content Creator need to make video like this... If Mina is that important, why Chis not using him for fight in all his kvks? 😏😏😏
@kimpoyparrenas7988 ай бұрын
For someone who doesn't listen like you yeh don't believe it but if you watch his full video he said minamoto ISN'T the best..for a f2p(free to play)like you go for Belisarius...mina isnt the best but you can get lot of kp in early game if you are fighter kvk 1 you can get 100m kp or more....also mina is the best because you can run while killing farmers😂
@Chisgule8 ай бұрын
Bro didn’t even watch the vid lol
@chungus-the-2nd8 ай бұрын
Is 5511 mina still good in open field?
@Chisgule8 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s pretty solid early game. Mid to late game it will fall off
@_Gala_15 ай бұрын
watching this almost half a year into the game 🥲 i have mina maxxed but man my commander pairings are all over the place
@danielmora72878 ай бұрын
Dont waste money on Mina, simple he get own by majority meta cav
@b0t_philipp1312 ай бұрын
Is Minamoto better than Cao Cao?
@Paul-uv6mbАй бұрын
Yes he is
@Natsu1614 күн бұрын
@@Paul-uv6mbno
@Paul-uv6mb13 күн бұрын
@@Natsu16 come 1vs1 I will be maxed mina you take maxed cao.
@Natsu1613 күн бұрын
@Paul-uv6mb i don't even have mina or cao bro i just think cao is better Don't be mad
@davidlatham64108 ай бұрын
costs about 400-500
@GhostCVGamesX8 ай бұрын
Has chisquel ever made a video on what you should do when you are going to start spending money to become a whale 😂sorry if it is not typed right I am only a little while experienced
@cattywampusmcdoogle8 ай бұрын
he may be good but he isn't 200 dollar good...
@jdogg8188 ай бұрын
nev/mino will destroy nev/joan everytime
@chimaera85718 ай бұрын
Trial of the Lost Kingdom such a rip off, nobody should buy it. Chances are it won’t special talent and no iconic available. Lilith should fix it so it always special talents and has iconic available.
@Benney336 ай бұрын
15% defense “not even that good” 😂
@_MD_.8 ай бұрын
Too expensive for me.
@GameC3nt8 ай бұрын
give him some AOE rework him . AOE like william
@danielmora72878 ай бұрын
Useless video, making repeating content. Lillith please give Chisgule something new