Should you use Targeted Redaction? (Review)

Feat. Crimil's Dagger, the worst feeling 120 in the game.

[@ahmedfouda5500]

Off-topic: MAD respect for showing balanced gameplay footage. It's damn near theraputic watching someone not having their we-rans and 120+ kill streak while talking about a gun

[@bloodelf941]

Appreciate it, I like the clips I'm using to showcase what I'm saying about the gun. If I've got something that pops the hell off, I'll use it, and it'll be part of what I talk about. But if something is mediocre or has a really specific downside, I'll indicate it through the clips as best as possible. Deaths are easy to get my point across, and they're sometimes funny. Works out lol

[@ahmedfouda5500]

@@bloodelf941 Hell yeah. It makes a very interesting viewing experience instead of just waiting for screenshots of perk screens. Keep it up, m8

[@joshuablanchette878]

agreed. i love True Vanguard but he's died 4 times in 10 years based on the footage

[@bloodelf941]

@joshuablanchette878 eh, TV's a successful creator in the space who's a big inspiration behind the way that I structure the weapon reviews I do. He has the ability to spend his work time cultivating cool highlight clips around showing off his skill, and it's also what helped grow his channel in the first place. He's known for being a significantly better player than the average person. There's not really an expectation for me to perform at the top level when showcasing a weapon. He's got a personality to maintain within the editing room and the freedom/burden to do so. If that makes sense? I probably butchered my point, but idk how else to convey what I'm saying. Don't respond to comments at 3am lmao

[@zorburg6917]

Someday is a precision frame like matador not a pinpoint it’s craftable and can get threat detector opening shot

[@jorgealonso9792]

Matador is a lightweight frame man

[@SlimeyZockt]

Haven't seen many people talk about one of my favs in the crucible. I love the origin trait as it is so powerful and together with my voidlock spam build this works wonders. Such a good gun :D But even outside of my specific builds, this things is such a monster. Never underestimate someone running this, they have found a true workhorse Frenzy can work in PvE, but the uptime on a handcannon is so small, that you are better of literally running any other perk that gives you more than 5% uptime. On different guns there is a discussion, on Hand Cannons of all thing it just ain't good

[@nomadasol8247]

I love my Well Balanced+Keep Away roll. Especially w/ Ophids

[@thomasmurrell9832]

As someone who strictly plays PvE, I think this weapon is pretty solid. Not a game changer or super OP, but craft it with reload speed masterwork, Outlaw, and DR, it works as a solid ad clearing gun. There ARE better options, but I think it's pretty good. At least from the PvE perspective.

[@samuszerosuit]

its okeish as literally all weapons in the game where a weapon really shines is in end game content, that's where you figure if its trash or not (from that perspective).

[@Aleenul]

I rock it with well rounded on an arbor warden titan! Flechette storm, grapple cast or melee, and the barri-nade all trigger it so I have JUICED stats basically any time I duel

[@ophanimium7802]

I got s crimil's with chambered, accurized, slideways, precision instrument. Actually feels great with enhanced slideways and just anything to buff its stability and range

[@tabithadickerson2525]

slideways zen feels fine, when im not getting firing squads

[@glowiboi]

heyo, I dont usually comment, but I like your commentary and I hope you grow! I luckily got the handcannon from that season, and it's my favorite thing to use in the Hardware game mode (no abilities, perma Unsated uptime) You're so right about Frenzy, the moment it becomes viable in PvP is the moment I stop playing PvP cause that sounds like the furthest thing from engaging gameplay My biggest gripe with Igneous is that the deterministic recoil zig-zags horizontally. Also I'm sorry but Precision Instrument on 120's sshouldn't allow for 2H1B past 6 resil.

[@jonathancotter7429]

I feel the same weirdness running hc+sidearm and eye of the storm in column 3 would have made this gun s-tier

[@bloodelf941]

@@jonathancotter7429 I'm glad somebody else gets it lol

[@lavardownes9244]

I actually use this when I feel like not using my Igneous Adept. I actually do like the feel of this weopon lol

[@basic-decaf]

Yes, over 10,000 kills since Final Shape dropped. Destabilizing Rounds in PVE is unreal on this thing, considering it hits so hard that it's just 1 headshot to proc it on all the enemies in the area, and with the artifact mod Expanding Abyss, you will always be doing 30% extra damage at all times with your primary. It's basically a Legendary Sunshot, except when you make all your orbs, you get Void Overshields instead of Restoration.

[@ethanmyr7979]

I have kept 1 of these with collective action well rounded sitting in my vault for the day I go into trials with 2 other stasis users lol. Radiant or other damage stacking buffs can also help give u the 2 tap I am sure. Maybe stasis dmg increase for armor charges since we can get armor charges from elemental pickups

[@infectedbait5693]

Who tf would say frenzy... is pvp? Bro if that person who's saying that is ACTUALLY in a gun fight for more than 10-12 seconds consistently... bro, pvp might not be for you AND the other person who's obviously missing their shots lmfao

[@ethanmyr7979]

Legit thought the same thing but I saw I think a CammyCakes video where he talked about a gun and was saying frenzy was decent on it lol. still disagree tho yeah not good in pvp

[@bloodelf941]

@infectedbait5693 there's an argument to be made that it works in the highest end of pvp, 3 stacking in trials in the flawless pool against streamers and other people in the scrim scene. People play super defensively and much slower. Its one of the least fun experiences I've ever seen and I never want to be in a situation where Frenzy is why I won a gunfight.

[@Hawkeye83627]

Gotta disagree on Crimils. It depends entirely on your roll. Im having fun and feeling great with my smallbore/steady rounds, moving target and kill clip. Ive got another roll with precision instrument instead of kill clip and that ones feels just as good.

[@InFamousProductions]

I live targeted, I pull it out now and then , and always kicks ass.

[@homelesssamurai629]

Someday isint a slug

[@bloodelf941]

Yeah that's a miss on my part, sight memory put the precision frame icon as the slug shotgun frame lol

[@yandi.s]

The origin perk is constantly on in the hardware PvP mode

[@bloodelf941]

@yandi.s I wish I could play hardware to judge it effectively, but they didn't disable all abilities so it isn't actually hardware. Unfort

[@yandi.s]

@@bloodelf941 im pretty sure labs rotation this week is hardware supremacy and hardware supremacy havoc I dunno about havoc mode but normal th origin trait I on for the whole round, if you do get a chance to play that mode the gun is really consistent

[@bloodelf941]

@yandi.s origin trait'll be active sure so the gun works no problem. Just wish Hardware was actually no abilities is all.

[@yandi.s]

@@bloodelf941 yeah I see what you mean now haha sorry I had just woken up and misread what you wrote my bad

[@bloodelf941]

@yandi.s no worries dude

[@BlackAndWhiteish]

How do you even get this now lol, newer player here

[@bloodelf941]

@BlackAndWhiteish as of right now, you gotta hope that Banshee, the tower gunsmith, is selling it. His inventory is on a daily rotation, I think? I might be wrong and it rotates weekly. Or, xur sells it on the weekend

[@BlackAndWhiteish]

@@bloodelf941 That's kinda stupid, but thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it

[@tabithadickerson2525]

feels fine on console. tf you on.

[@bloodelf941]

@@tabithadickerson2525 your mom

[@haydenbell1758]

Crimils dagger is one of the best feeling hand cannons lol don't listen to this shit

[@bloodelf941]

@haydenbell1758 Well, since I'm the one who made the video, I'm objectively correct, and you are not. There's a brigade of monkeys on their way to the address tied to your IP to challenge you to a trial by combat over your libel. In all seriousness, I tried like 6 different rolls, all with different stat focuses and perk options, but I couldn't shake how clunky it felt to me. Maybe I just didn't find the right option. What roll are you running?

[@haydenbell1758]

@@bloodelf941 I also run golden gun hunter so headshot calls or using my dodge increases handling and reload and amplified helps with handling on arc. I used to love outlaw and precision instrument but I got a roll with sideways and precision. I have a range MW with hammer forged and steady rounds for extra stability and AE. I'm sitting at 70 range and 51 stability before sideways is active. Feels very smooth and like I said hunter can make clunky guns feel better or use ophidin on warlock.

[@bloodelf941]

@haydenbell1758 I run exclusively hunter lol, used to be solar specifically. Knock 'em Down goes a long way towards boosting weapon feel I agree there. I tried to get away from it when doing reviews to not taint how things feel. Allowing for better distinction between weapons, finding the tradeoffs and whatnot. Slideways/Adagio was the best feeling option I played with for chaining. Easier two taps, I just didn't enjoy the gun raw and had a bad time trying to pull together clips to talk about it. Oh well, all subjective anyway.

[@haydenbell1758]

@@bloodelf941 that's what makes destiny so beautiful lmao sorry for the original comment tbh. I just feel like ppl don't give crimils a chance cuz iggyy hammer. True you can't use knock em down to review a weapon. But when it comes to playing the game if that's the only downfall of a gun and there's something to fix it, it does get taken into consideration. I just have better energy shotguns and I won't let go of my forsaken mindbenders since they never took away quick plus snap cuz it was sunset so no one cared. I'm a returning player from behind light. And I'm always looking for kinetic hand cannons . But with someday on the table I've been trying out energy hand cannons like cantata

[@haydenbell1758]

Also I've been looking at at the hand cannon from this video since I came back and I want it soooo bad I'm hoping it gets brought back in some way