Spy Hard? Just Stab While Invisible, Moron

[@sauceinmyface9302]

A battle between two teams of fully invisible spies is hilarious to see

[@ProxyDoug]

Or to not see I guess

[@davisdf3064]

Class Wars spy is finally good

[@AstroChara]

Ultimate schizo experience

[@terminacchi]

John Cena vs John Cena

[@myuutosan]

Now I need to see what full scale invisible tf2 looks like

[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

They'll never expect the second invisible spawncamping Spy.

[@digitalizedmind6784]

or the 4th

[@empdisaster10]

Remember kids, there’s always a second spy

[@enocan612]

0:39

[@breadmilkYT]

The third waiting a little down the line:

[@Turkey_fan_2019]

its like a boxing match, if you see it coming, you block it, but the one you get baited, your done

[@zippah]

I think the funniest result of every spy being invisible is the indirect buff to disguises, because everyones so focused on finding the invisible spies, the spy can throw a brain destroyer and just run up behind you with a normal discuise on

[@cannonfodder9248]

Still better to be invisible than visible, but eternal reward would be actually good

[@HANKSANDY69420]

​@@cannonfodder9248 *It is good.*

[@marisakirisame1st]

​@@cannonfodder9248 it would be terrifying to see your teammates disappear one by one, never knowing who was next

[@BlackAxon]

Did you get brain destroyer from Northerlion?

[@lambsauce5312]

​@@BlackAxonthat's what I'm thinking too

[@ChesterManfred]

The spies on powerhouse shooting the enemy, not realizing they're inches away from the opposite spies was funny

[@bruschetta7711]

Bumping as spy is always funny, there's an unritten rule where both spy say thanks and keep going on about their job

[@co5micwaffle742]

same energy as two players walking past each other in a smoke in cs

[@lordofthechickens3627]

Or you uncloak for some RPS​@@bruschetta7711

[@evilded2]

I foolishly thought that it would break the invis when he stabbed...

[@Dave-go6pn]

Yeah because that would've made sense to actually test.

[@TakeMyLunch]

honestly surprised there wasn't a second half of the video where they swapped to that. He usually does variants like that in the same video

[@fcomolineiro7596]

Should be a variant, SHOUNIC I DEMAND A NEW VERSION OF THIS VIDEO NOW OR I WILL hit dislike

[@MikeisaGoob]

Seriously what was the point of this test its fucking retarded. Atleast make it so they uncloak after attacking, this video is literally just "we gave a class an obviously extremely op abalitiy and it turns out its extremely op". MF is getting desperate for content to milk.

[@alanmonteros6432]

Or maybe reduce the time needed to uncloak. I feel like that would be an interesting new watch to have, maybe reduce by half the duration of invis to keep it somewhat balanced

[@robinrai4973]

the imagery of that spy shooting out the window while wearing a dumbass mask is hilarious

[@mememaria4073]

Sir, a second spy has camped the spawn door

[@AngelTwilight]

​@@mememaria4073A SECOND SPY IN THE BASE?!

[@xenosarcadius1198]

​@AngelTwilight A SECOND RED SPY!? *races down stairs*

[@ElliotWilliamHorsfield]

A 3RD SPY WHY ARE THEYRE SO MANY WTF

[@maskofthedragon]

4:55 Even in a server where Spy is completely unfair, you can still find plenty of footage of him eating shit

[@DeepWeeb]

With unrestricted invisibility spies became the very thing they swore to destroy: *Snipers*

[@MyScorpion42]

EXACTLY

[@Trolloncio]

yet they are still less overpowered than regular snipers lol

[@tangerinepaint3643]

Imagine that with the pre-nerf ambassador

[@kalebdavis7080]

This is a direct action against snipers being a better spy. The cycle continues.

[@antirevomag834]

@@kalebdavis7080 Most classes are better at being spy than spy. More movement options, more damage, people aren't looking out for that random who ran past everyone who's an enemy, they're looking for spy, people just turn on captions now to know when spy is decloaking because they added a feature for deaf people to play, which i'm not against deaf people being able to play but fucking come on, 'spy decloaking' showing up on screen whenever a spy decloaks within range of you is such a dead giveaway even in the middle of a gunfight and so many people are using it now.

[@Air_OK]

For some reason, this made me think of an old game my friends and I would play that we called ghostbusters, where we’d have a team of heavies and medics versus a team of noclipping spies on koth_king or harvest_event. The spies would fly around the map, through walls and such, trying to backstab the enemies at full speed like a drive-by while the heavies and their medics try to minigun them down. It was awesome, and made the Huo-Long Heater very useful lol.

[@ExceptionErrorAlex]

this sounds like it would be awesome as an actual community server gamemode tbh

[@hannayapelekai1628]

Whats the point of the medics tho? Just the fact they give immunity/crits once in a while?

[@JoNarDLoLz]

​@@hannayapelekai1628 to continuously regenerate health from being butter knife i guess this atleast forces the ghost spy to aim for backstabs instead of butter knifing heavies till they die

[@Air_OK]

@@JoNarDLoLz yeah, for butter knife and revolver shots lol. In smaller groups, say four people, it was always two heavies and two spies, and the heavies healed with sandvich, throwing it to each other lest they be a sitting duck

[@mago474]

You should look up the game/gamemode "The Hidden"

[@NieOrginalny]

If Spy is so great, why isn't th- 6:27

[@DaQuestioningCrustacean]

Lmao true

[@hevnet]

welcome to spy 2: episode 1

[@helper_bot]

@@hevnet Spy Alyx

[@atig51]

OOH-

[@roninkarma]

2:34 "WAIT A DAMN SECOND."

[@Coriander1988]

TF2 is my favorite slapstick

[@batscove]

LMAOO

[@l1ghtd3m0n3]

Spies Like Us

[@Mystic-Midnight]

I just like the fact that both of them turn to the side

[@mondongoloco7902]

5:15 this feels when you move a rock and suddenly multiple bugs appears and run for cover

[@memesmemes3143]

lool

[@joeljamila2993]

Ay wait a second you aint slick you just copied a comment that was posted like 2 hours earlier

[@mondongoloco7902]

@joeljamila2993 wait what, What did the other comment said?

[@joeljamila2993]

@@mondongoloco7902 cant find it, this bastard stole it and took away its Popularity

[@Notstolencomment]

Finally after 7 years... The Schizophrenia Update

[@jc_art_]

Isnt it like reverse schizophrenia though? They dont see or hear anything, but they get hurt or killed by something that isnt there

[@mariuszwojtylak9860]

lmao that made me giggle

[@githug6508]

I thought scream fortress has end

[@blakhawk2265]

@@jc_art_ technically you could say no. It would just be schizophrenia with only tactile hallucinations (lethal)

[@zloymexanik1829]

Heart attack update

[@dankali735]

5:16 this clip is like flipping a rock and seeing 10 bugs run away

[@abdallatifalafandi2522]

The Pomson 6000: now's my time to shine!

[@bazukata3734]

you still suck

[@psy-fi64]

And then it still manages to get outperformed by the Short Circuit lmao

[@truefupu]

​@@psy-fi64the point is it disables the spy's invisibility meter. And you can use both.

[@UnknownDoggo]

As some have pointed out, this might be a bit more interesting if the spy after shooting/stabbing gets completely decloaked. Maybe even give the spy a short cooldown before he can cloak again or drain his cloak entirely.

[@dnr-vs1lk]

That would not solve the problem of it being unfair and unfun, only making it less overpowered and game defining.

[@mariustan9275]

Yeah it would still make it nearly impossible (unless you were Pyro) to detect a Spy outside of spawn. It'd just make it harder to spawncamp (a bit).

[@Brown95P]

​​​@@dnr-vs1lk You say that and yet you can see it made Sniper less OP and the weakest class stronger while still being easily dunked on by spychecking.

[@alejandrocoy5405]

​@@Brown95Pevery team on casual has like 4 spies every game, people enjoy playing as the spy, he isn't a broken or unplayable character Stop taking this silly game so god damn seriously

[@lamegamertime]

@@Brown95P that is NOT how game design works

[@Bonelord69]

Instructions unclear, went invisible after being stabbed

[@luleta1644]

YER.

[@jking4854]

bro was gone

[@helper_bot]

isnt that the dead ringer?

[@luleta1644]

@@helper_bot u cant get backstabbed but i guess you CAN get stabbed

[@ham_the_spam4423]

Am I being dumb or is there already a Spy item that hides victim’s bodies?

[@yasu3d]

5:23 i love how spy grows a third arm to reload is gun

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

one arm is a mechanical extension of his johnson

[@vincentdupont3521]

That's cause Spy lives near a nuclear power plant in France

[@crimsonshinobi5281]

Third arm or third leg? 😏

[@LeminofSovietOnion]

6:14 that pyro experienced the entire plot of face off

[@seasnickers]

0:33 tewi's prank ever

[@confusedshovel1232]

Of course it’s that damn rabbit

[@ThePenisMan]

I love the part where tewi fucking stabs reisen

[@iseegreen5297]

genuinely made me believe i misclicked and was actually watching a touhou video when i saw this comment

[@jootersblaccat]

2HU??!

[@BloodfelX]

The top three communities that I see crossover with the Touhou community in: 1) Team Fortress 2 2) Fire Emblem 3) StarCraft ...I would draw connections between them all, but the only one that sticks out to me is that they all seem to like good games? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@genericyoutuber8098]

1:16 skruggle

[@pizdabobra228]

Bri'ish.

[@EdgieAlias]

It was just one skruggle.

[@Aluminum.K]

It was a skruggle.

[@Freggtheegg]

skruggle

[@supper_e1823]

They got skruggled

[@Max58183]

5:50 After so many years suddenly seeing spy with disquise mask on AND shoting his revolver gave me strong uncanny valley feeling for some reason.

[@sharpblue]

Finally, a shounic video where spy isn't nerfed.

[@taibasarovadil]

spy is buffed and he is still "held back by being the spy" 💀💀💀

[@forgottenone2454]

The unforcer: -95% damage -99% attack speed -80% bullets and ammo +5 seconds of bleed damage *BUFFED!*

[@bugdracula1662]

@@forgottenone2454new experiment “what if every weapon only did bleed damage”

[@Whomobile]

5:41 Shaking like a wet chihuahua

[@SHUTDOWNOfficial]

This is just a London simulator

[@davisdf3064]

Not really, it needs 50 times more fog and cloudy skies, and be 4 times more dark at night

[@liquidatedrice5274]

mean :(

[@spinsolar]

London is filled with invisible french men with knives!? 😱

[@anthonyfarias5076]

​@spinsolar London population must be declining quickly due to backstabs

[@Morec0]

They keep bringing in new stabbers so it's cool. ​@@anthonyfarias5076

[@MRswipez1]

It's crazy to think that one single change in spy makes him op, shows you how careful you have to be when you balance a character

[@bugdracula1662]

Well ok I think calling this one single change is like saying “all sniper hits are now headshots” like ok yeah that’s technically one change but it’s one change that removes one of the main limitations on the class

[@june9914]

⁠@@bugdracula1662yeah man it’d be crazy if sniper could OHKO 5/9 classes without even aiming at the head Wait a second

[@MRswipez1]

@@bugdracula1662 🤓

[@pikasalt]

Would love a see an attempt of balancing this with something like the cloak and dagger, maybe attacking immediately drains the meter, causing the spy to decloak. This could also put the cloak on a cooldown until the meter is full. This could let a spy get an almost guaranteed pick, but put themselves in a situation where they are without an escape tool after.

[@taxing4490]

That would probably be balanced, but waaaaay too annoying, so its probably best that isnt in the game.

[@HANKSANDY69420]

*The Kamakazi.*

[@mark-jf5ik]

People hate snipers for having the almost guaranteed pick card every few seconds So to have even amateur spy basically have that pick 100% of the time once every few minutes will double the amount of spy checks while making spy utterly brainless vs snipers, engineers, and medics

[@Chroniclerope]

@@mark-jf5iktheyd still get caught by pyro checks the exact same way and get the guaranteed pick waaay less often than sniper.

[@goldengolem4670]

@@mark-jf5ik To be fair, he is currently countered by both sniper and engineer which isnt exactly a good state for him to be in... Oh yea and the medic gets free über when he rolls his 30% crit übersaw 100% of the time

[@startalizing]

I love the camera angles in your experiment videos. You are a great TF2 cinematographer.

[@localsnek]

It'd work better if Spy's cloak had a constant noise while active, some kind of hum or whir to show his position. Cloak flickering after shooting or stabbing could help fix the sniping issue. Or perhaps the cloak could become a Halo-esque shimmer effect, detectible if you look hard enough? With some balancing, this could be an interesting mod.

[@DataDrain02]

So, the effect when Spy is bumped while cloaked all the time?

[@r10101]

So basically it makes the sound the cloak and dagger makes when you're running while out of cloak constantly? I don't mind that, since you can pick up on where the spy is from the sound

[@godlypumpkin8745]

You could make attacking disale the cloak for a brief moment

[@xamadfp]

6:04 "I don't know which one to shoot..." "Flexo, shoot Flexo!"

[@oddgod8005]

2:02 look gary there I am

[@theviolenceenjoyer]

Stinky gay pyro

[@robodude145]

Spy checking would now be like fnaf at freddies.

[@rumpus5633]

fnaf?? *starts jaking off *

[@slowbro8912]

@@rumpus5633 🤨📸

[@Diaboragon]

"It would be really unfair if spy was allowed to backstab while cloaked." "Have you proven that though?" "...Be right back."

[@TheDoomsdayzoner]

Basically: what if every Spy in the game was the Saxxy Awards Trailer Spy.

[@guidenstuff]

im very sure that this is something valve probably tested during early development so its cool to see what could have been

[@CrazyDave12]

An army of invisible Frenchmen shooting you looks like a nightmare

[@diggyrobinson5859]

I always thought you could attack while cloaked, it would just decloak you instantly upon doing so

[@bucket6079]

Nah it just doesn't do anything if you m1

[@Brib8888]

that's disguising, actually

[@neevko267]

no that's sombra from overwatch

[@greaseman6825]

Bro has never touched rhe frenchman

[@SandvicherTf2]

"I AM NOT A MORON" -Weetly

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

"weetly" 😭

[@ViketAnnYuumi]

imagine a disguise kit that let you attack while disguise but taking ANY sort of damage while remove you disguise

[@recurvestickerdragon]

imo, attacking while disguised should definitely be a standard feature, players would still see the wrong type of bullets unless the spy was very careful, which increases the amount of interaction and counterplay on both sides

[@ViketAnnYuumi]

@recurvestickerdragon i prefer honestly fake shooting and infinite fake reload without depend on quickswitch weapons is really gun trick people

[@lugismansion2400]

i think a disguise kit that allows you to MIMIC TAUNTS should be a thing, imagine it, a Spy disguised as a Heavy with the Fists, and would be able to pootis pow his "teammate" or giving him a Soldier Kamikaze taunt that would be both funny and practical AND he could use taunts that the person has on hand HOWEVER Unusual effects won't be shown for the Taunts so that it'd be easier to find him if a Spy was using this

[@Nitosa]

​@@lugismansion2400that would get annoying quick, specifically pootis pow (high noon) since with some finesse you can aim it in any direction in a 500H radius/ 9 player models away, which is like a long-range 4s fast back stab which can come from anywhere. And don't say "but you can hear it!" You can easily cancel voice lines with others and with some custom micro almost silent.

[@Nitosa]

​@@lugismansion2400also it would instantly destroy buildings for practically free and break the concept of a disguise, i.e acting like something you aren't, just because your soldier doesn't mean you have grenades or pyro and cause Armageddon. Lethal taunts shouldn't come from out of nowhere at anytime, it kinda ruin's the whole taunt part. Now non damaging taunts are 99% ok tho.

[@willyhoo2946]

3:20 "Snipers weren't happy in this test." Sniper mains are never happy.

[@Eremalauda]

You know this was a thing for a little bit when tf2 released, you just had to swing first

[@LozadaPR]

yep, you could even say that 2007 tf2 was extremely sus

[@tappajaav]

@@LozadaPR No, you could not.

[@MrCrossa]

This reminds me of a glitch in PS3 tf2 that I abused where you could store a melee swing and use it when you switched back to your melee. It worked on every class but spies could just use it to backstab while invisible or disguised.

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

Yeah I remember that. Back when I played almost nobody else knew how to do it. Another use is that you could store a swing and kill people during a stalemate lol.

[@KeyboardTarantula]

good way to balance it is by ejecting out of Invis POST stab, and it takes the rest of your cloak, meaning you lose your escape plan.

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

Kunai players: 'its my time to shine'

[@KeyboardTarantula]

@@mimszanadunstedt441 it also helps the "your eternal reward"

[@YourLocalRaider]

​@@KeyboardTarantula A true assassin gameplay.

[@HimikoTheSocial_idiot]

@@KeyboardTarantula yes, because with the YER you can now just straight up bodysnatch someone. It’s biggest problem was walking up with a disguise then when you stab someone notices the demo just disappeared into thin air, this change to cloak would give spy one extra stab before people start magically disappearing and raising suspicion

[@bareodin]

Ages ago you used to be able to taunt while invisible. It was hilarious as you could taunt kill in front of spawn doors and engineer nests without them knowing what was going on. I still have a bunch of clips of this in action.

[@Dafuqinator7]

Post them.

[@chamitoempire1672]

SPY STABBING WHILE INVISIBLE IS WHEN: - You die due to random bullshit - You get spawncamped - You get killed by a guy that you couldn't even see - Your team is mostly spies - The enemy team is mostly spies and they are winning - No engineer, too many pyros - Some guy is top scoring as trolldier somehow

[@45545videos]

What if, upon backstabbing while invisible, the spy gets a loud decloaking noise and cannot turn invisible again for... idk, 8-10 seconds? Like the dead ringer, but instead of faking death, you get a free backstab.

[@neevko267]

thought about it for a while but i feel like the idea just encourages spies to throw themselves in, get a kill, then die ofc this is basically already how spy is played, but i feel like this would be more frustrating to play against, unless a pyro is constantly spy checking, there is little counterplay

[@Helloamjp]

If this was casual, it wouldn't change much. My teammates are deaf half of the time

[@asteroidrules]

Yeah it feels like this would be a lot less broken if cloak were treated like a disguise and attacking automatically broke you out of it.

[@edinaldonokyojin8974]

Unfair

[@ihavenoideadanny]

YER just became even more overpowered edit: what if spy could use the weapons of a disguised player with the same thing as no disguise lost on attacking? how overpowered would spy get?

[@nivolai8837]

not really, the 33% cloak drain rate is holding it back i would say the big earner is significantly better

[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

Implying the YER is overpowered in the first place.

[@Tracequaza]

"truly a cerebral approach to balancing the spy; just pick another class"

[@madmanmortonyt4890]

The YER being overpowered... I haven't heard that in years...

[@taibasarovadil]

>disguise as med >heal enemy team >profit

[@SiggyTundra]

"we removed this intentional balance decision. The results will surprise you"

[@Ziomek20-f2g]

cloak and dagger would shine with popularity

[@dracodragon105]

I feel like decloaking on attack like the disguise loss could be good, or make it cost cloak so you want something like the cloak revolver to keep it up

[@_mailer]

I would like to see this mechanic explored more, with backstabs, sapping, and shots fired from cloak also draining your entire CLOAK meter adding a buffer from being able to regenerate cloak again. This would at least make it a risk/reward decision of consuming your remaining cloak for a really secure pick, but against multiple people you could still get retaliated.

[@VkngVd]

0:32 That spy is that far away

[@763xx]

finally the proof we needed to show that spy isnt hard

[@interestingrobot9247]

"Is that a baguette in you pocket, or are you just happy to see me?"

[@What-is-a-handle-is-it-a-tag]

😐

[@DeezBaeNaeNae]

pyro would beg to differ

[@kirbygopoyo]

0:33 honestly in-character for Tewi

[@BoyOHBoy123]

4:21 i forgot i was on the playtest ☠

[@c0baltl1ghtn1ng]

Idea: Run this again, but have them visible as if their Cloak-n-Dagger meter ran out or they're being bumped into.

[@WASletter]

An item that gives spy the ability to invis backstab/gun while capping could actually be pretty cool

[@squidlysal9381]

he is still held back by... being the spy.

[@thomasmedveddubois4566]

The biggest wapon agains a Enemy : It's Paranoïa

[@shanshansan]

I really like how "sad" is an adjective that continues to be used when a class is heavily oppressed

[@Luneria]

4:58 how do you whiff that bad

[@BunnLilah]

I do that a lot lol. Thankfully nobody is recording matches when I do it though

[@HimikoTheSocial_idiot]

Pay to much attention too the enemies behinds instead of paying attention to yours

[@emissne]

this sounds horrifying, like just imagine existing and suddenly you hear *THAT (your class) IS A SPY!* and then you look over to see nothing, then a fucking invisible soldier backstabs you

[@KeeGamer310]

why didn't i think of this earlier

[@masterofthecontinuum]

This is probably how it would feel to play if Meet the Spy was actually representative of the paranoia and danger spy poses ingame.

[@SandwichGamesHeavy]

2:56 POV: France

[@xtYLT2IY8]

not enough rioting

[@buzzlightyearpfp7641]

average shounic video test pitch: "what if spy could stab while invisible?" actual test: "what if spy could stab and shoot infinitely while invisible?"

[@AltiumYT]

**Wheatley Voice** I. AM NOT. A MORON

[@bread_cat__]

That’s broken, great vid shounic:)

[@badpeoplearebad3934]

Now make everyone invisible

This is genuinely hilarious, and it'll only be topped by "invisible heavies, but they're forced to only use the Holiday Punch".

[@ML_Tachanka]

Spy but he has the 「Hanged Man」

[@Qoride]

okay now what if you could attack while invisible, but you can't use it with the cloak and dagger

[@licious6033]

Mr. Shounic, please make more videos, I love watching them, as they are very entertaining and well made. Sincerely Licious

[@LividImp]

If he made more videos, then they wouldn't be entertaining or well made, they'd just be like the rest of the KZbin for-profit slop. The man already has a winning formula, don't ask him to alter it.

[@licious6033]

It's ok that you don't get the joke part of my comment, but he could just spend more time making videos, it's not really that complicated. He doesn't have to pump out low-effort content, crazy that I even have to type that out for you.

[@LividImp]

@@licious6033 I get the joke, I just didn't laugh. The real joke here is that you think that if you just present your statement in the form of a playful polite request you can pretend you aren't just begging for another person's time and efforts.

[@licious6033]

@@LividImp you gotta be real fucking miserable to somehow take my compliment to yter, that i enjoy his content, in a somehow bad way. you should get checked for a mental disability

[@xinderx1039]

Finally: Competitively Viable Spy

[@dorp0083]

0:38 Tewi Inaba spy????

[@PrinceSilvermane]

The thing I love the most about these experiments is it shows just how precariously balanced some things are.

[@bird700]

thanks valve, very cool!

[@sadpee7710]

backstabbing a cloaked spy, while you're also cloaked, is a power move.

[@SubPriestPepsi]

killfeed 0:31 Tewi totally would.

[@YoukaiofNotThinking]

Tewi moment

[@BierBart12]

This gave me a flashback of playing a TF2 version of The Hidden I think it basically WAS just an overpowered spy vs everyone else

[@unnamedguy56]

as a cloak and dagger user, i see this as an absolute win

[@hunlepto2239]

I feel like it could be used by redesigning Cloak and Dagger to actually be what its name means. Just remove its cloak refilling mechanic when not moving and make it waste all your watch energy the moment you backstab someone. This would make the weapon be normally worse than the normal watch (since the current Cloak and Dagger also drains faster at full run speed), but be usable to pick off important targets in a quick assassin way without having to reveal yourself. It would turn the weapon into a pretty good alternative. This would also pair extremely well with the Your Eternal Reward knife, basically having only a very small window for people to see that you backstabbed their teammate (aside from the hud).

[@Pudding404]

We're so in need of an update that we're entertaining ourselves with our schizophrenia now. Surprised it took this long.

[@IronGearProductions]

Two simple fixes to the biggest issues with this: 1. Disable Cloak and Dagger 2. Don't let Spies fire their gun while invisible, only allow backstabs (and maybe sappers?) Would love to see that experiment play out

[@trevoreyre2775]

I was on the test server when we tested spy being able to shoot while disguised. It literally makes him slightly viable, but not broken like we thought.

[@purplehaze2358]

I feel like certain spy mains would advocate for this being put as an official feature in the game, unironically.

[@ei4439]

Holy shit the revelation of the century

[@archimedesbird3439]

I propose something: Hitting the reload key while cloaked with your knife out would make you shimmer instead of being fully invisible(as if you were hit or running with the Cloak & Dagger with no charge) This would allow you to perform a slow backstab, akin to vanilla tf2 spy

[@Brown95P]

...So, this basically made Snipers not as OP anymore while also validating how OP Pyro is at spychecking, all the while buffing the weakest class in the game. A variation of this should genuinely and absolutely be added into the game.

[@thefowles1]

I get this sneaking suspicion that Valve tested it this way at first and quickly realized how broken it is

[@Danodan94]

Okay, now can we see what happens when EVERY CLASS is always invisible? (Stock invis watch with unlimited duration)

[@mimszanadunstedt441]

pyro spam and demo traps above spawn doors

[@spinsolar]

NInjaneer haven

[@Enter_Ed]

"When you can't even say my name Has the memory gone? Are you feeling numb? Go on, call my name I can't play this game, so I ask again Will you say my name? Has the memory gone? Are you feeling numb? Or have I become invisible?"

[@kotlolish]

Suggestion to improve it: A: Remove any ammo pick ups when invisible like the deadringer. B: Cloak & Dagger doesn't allow invisible stabs but now decloaks faster C: Dead Ringer .. no stabbing while invisible, removing the speed buff, can pick up ammo boxes, gets extra defense buffs. ....There But a fun experiment! If anything... if you make this a specific cloak watch to do it but add something like "Uncloaks immidently after stabbing" or something that makes em slower when cloaked.

[@memesmemes3143]

FINALLY SPY IS BALANCED NOW !! THANK YOU SHOUNIC !! BASED

[@Beckwourth]

4:57 "depth perception pal you should look into it" - the blue scout

[@emmaoo7024]

Honestly I don’t even want to know what would happen if you had the cloak and dagger and it happens that you have the cloak and dagger equipped

[@Izayoink_Saccuy]

Lore accurate spy

[@Yellowsam4145]

Pyros: *p a r a n o i d*

[@romajimamulo]

I thought this was going to be a video about an obscure bug, like "on February 30th 2017, there were three hours where spies could attack while invisible"

[@Wub-rv9xx]

cloak and dagger my beloved. when I played too much TF2 I’d perch on random objects like a cheese-scented gargoyle and tag peeps with a spycicle before juking my pursuers and circling back to my perch. they’d fumigate everywhere not realizing I was sitting on a slightly-above chest height barrel or something, I’d leave frozen statues as a warning. also on 2Fort there’s a little bit of ledge jutting from the middle wall of the ramparts that’s perfect for ambushing snipers.