Shout - Living For My Lord live at Immortal Fest Part II

[@Oldiesmann]

Ken Tamplin has posted his response to the criticism (both here and elsewhere on the internet) at kzbin.info/www/bejne/e52nZoZ-nq6Eo68. Feel free to believe what you want at this point, but enough with the negative comments already.

[@ItsNotaTuhmah]

Evidence is conclusive. His admission is a lie.

[@TheBrettWilson]

Tamplin's proven to be lip syncing since 1989... and we're supposed to limit the negative comments????? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@deepzepp4176]

Yup, and he lied in his response. Tamplin is a fraud.

[@captainbeyondmetal8213]

Amen Ken Sing On!!!!

[@alfromtx245]

His response is basically an evasion. He twists the accusation to be that he basically lip synced the entire show and that he lip syncs everything, which nobody actually claimed. I've been a fan of Ken's since high school, but this is too much. I would have less of an issue with him lip syncing parts if he was just honest about it, and if he would stop ghosting legitimate questions in response to his video.

[@forestyogin2218]

lip synching for my Lord

[@stevedullum6777]

Yeah. some of the lower registry stuff might be live, but you can easily hear when the pre-recorded vocal kicks in as soon as it goes high. If you watch the recent Shout concert, it's so blatantly lyp-synched.

[@hazardeur]

where the proof is in the syncing

[@TruthSurge]

:29 miming begins. He doesn't even take an inhale before that high part comes in. The timbre is cleaner and younger compared to his actual singing prior to :29. Apology to all his fans and students or close his YT channel and get off social media!

[@ricomajestic]

Don't forget refunds to his students!

[@enrico20957]

Maybe it's time to get a life and sale some records? I understand your hate, Ken is a successful musician and you are not, Ken is a believer and you are not

[@TruthSurge]

@@enrico20957 "Maybe it's time to get a life and sale some records? I understand your hate, Ken is a successful musician and you are not, Ken is a believer and you are not" hahahah! just wow. Ken is also a proven LIAR and I am not. And unlike Ken, I'm not obsessed with convincing people I'm the greatest singer in the world while simultaneously being unable to sing live in public or in videos.

[@alfromtx245]

@@enrico20957 If he's a believer, that's even more of a reason that he should be truthful. Also, criticizing someone doesn't automatically equal hatred for them.

[@roberttippett3733]

I wish that all the others were exposed as well: Many groups and individual singers do the same. Most are not as good at faking it. The mistake he makes is lying about it. Most don’t have to lie because they’re not called out.

[@pepitogrillo4494]

Shout performing "Milli Vanilli For My Lord"

[@E-flatMajor]

Yes, this is clearly lip synced. Some live vocals in the lower parts and a clear backing track kicking in on the higher notes.

[@GoodTimes4All]

Proof?

[@E-flatMajor]

@@GoodTimes4All Third sense, I think it is

[@benitokamelo252]

​@@GoodTimes4AllCommon sense

[@TheRnROutlaw]

@@GoodTimes4Allproof that he isn’t?

[@gravedigger9750]

@@GoodTimes4Alldo u hear how weak the low notes are compared to how the high notes are strong and note for note the album version, including the backup singers track

[@RetropunkAI]

Vocal analysis shows that this vocal is the same track from the 1990 recording and his studio video from 2020. The only "live" parts are partial verses where the parts are in his lower register. I find this offensive because Ken is a vocal teacher. using vocal extraction software, these 3 performances use the SAME vocal track. Live Band (2024) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKvHhXWhiLWVjrs Ken Studio Video (2020) kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6SkqWSug6qsjJI Music Video (1990) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWSTmniwast8nac

[@gulanhem9495]

That's outrageous! Using literally the 1990s studio performance in that fake 2020 video (with description "I just decided to pick up my guitar and sing Livin' For My Lord!") and now in this 2024 live concert. What a snake lol

[@deepzepp4176]

Great comment, and well posted. This fraud needs to be exposed.

[@RetropunkAI]

​@@deepzepp4176 ​ @gulanhem9495 and I am not the only one, there are a few videos now exposing this and a Reddit about it! r/KenTamplinEXPOSED

[@MonteD1]

Ken taking the studio video down is also suspicious.

[@RetropunkAI]

@@MonteD1oh boy. I just saw that. So sad. The vanity.

[@highnotesarecool]

i watch this everyday

[@AudiosphereX]

Living for my syncingggggg

[@docmovnok8697]

😂😂

[@brennendehexe7934]

3:20 the air guitar is also iconic 🎉

[@deebop4904]

You on suicide watch ?

[@XxXxTwofirstnames69420xXxXx]

There’s no way 😂

[@DonBrusko]

The proof is in the singing my ass !

[@hazardeur]

you understood that wrong. what he meant was "in the syncing"

[@goodguys239]

I AM IN LIP SYNCH HEAVEN

[@andreac.3282]

Is he singing only the lowest parts?

[@bettyeurovision9524]

yup. He has bad technique and can;t hit the upper notes.

[@wyattlightning6681]

Isn't there something hilariously ironic about a Christian rock band, that's performing live, with about 50% of the performance being playback, and the crowd sitting there, enjoying it, while deep down knowing this is bullshit. Reminds me of something

[@hazardeur]

i love it. you can't come up with stuff like this. the pure madness of life

[@tobiaswolf6630]

The guitar player also messes up the timing at around 2:46, so that Ken almost misses the timing for the lip syncing. lol

[@Kiss4cooper]

Shout ( Sh1t Happens Over Using Tapes)

[@junoroxas]

😂

[@pungus8498]

scamming for my lord, great song!

[@Rockit66]

yep, using playback on high-pitched parts.

[@gulanhem9495]

Almost all parts. You can see it because he sings it all without any effort, no mistakes, all the while doing face expressions and body movements.

[@themisanthropeman2186]

At 0:29 he transitions into lip syncing.

[@gulanhem9495]

Well spotted.

[@kipponi]

Show it with hand to mixing man!?

Since 1990 and beyond

[@Anniearchy]

The background vocals are also laughably mimed. My sweet Lord.

[@s.9070]

Justin Hawkins from "The darkness" can sing like this live for real without any trickery.

[@dennisrazzmatazz1352]

Lip syncing 😂😂😂😂😂

[@cristhianbecerra5458]

I mean, it’s pretty obvious. Higher parts are pristine versus the lower ones or even the parts when he talks

[@dinofond]

SIgh.... It's pretty easy to sound as good as you did in the 80's when the vocals are backing tracks. What a disappointment.

[@MB-263]

Could Ken pull of the multitrack background vocals in the 80's?

[@gulanhem9495]

Really? Why you think the lead vocals are from a track? I don't think so. The backing vocals mighte be though, but that's understandable.

[@dinofond]

@@gulanhem9495 But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Mat 5:37

[@dinofond]

@@gulanhem9495 FIl from Wings of Pegasus totally debunked this bruh, almost all the lead vocal is lip synced. I could hear it the fist time I listened. It's so obvious that Fil said his inbox "Exploded" from people asking him to analyze the performance. I'm clearly not the only one who can hear it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIuminSegqaSl80

[@gulanhem9495]

@@dinofond I've now been convinced he's using the 1990 album version lip synced lmao

[@jland12]

so much lip syncing - Livin' for My Fraud!

[@WitchesinBritches-uj7dj]

If this was indeed live the singer would be THE WORLDS BEST , sadly it is clearly not Live and is a backing track and the performer goes on in life as having Dreams

[@chrishouk5796]

Yes he is clearly lip syncing when not in the lower registers. Compare all of the raw footage to his "official video". There's a major fail that he has tried to get deleted but was caught before he could do anything. It shows him singing in his lower register and then doing a half assed falsetto where the soundguy is supposed to hit the delay and play the backing high note. This dude is a grade a 100% con artist.

[@mikehoolihan8414]

Holy lip synching.

[@bairrock42]

Totally 💯

[@chrishouk5796]

@bairrock42 Ken Tampon lol

[@LeanVanRanna]

And you are the judge! Congrats, can you do better?

[@TravisRocco]

@@LeanVanRanna This is the problem when people are shown the truth they displace their anger. They get mad at the truth tellers instead of the perpetrators. Ken's an amazing vocalist but the fact remains he's lip syncing to many parts of every song, end of story.

[@ActionFigureMagic]

Lip syncing? Probably not. He's had 35 yrs + practice miming😂​@@LeanVanRanna

[@maikeruvoice]

it was very obvious...The switch...

[@harveysmusicschoollizaman2290]

It's pretty obvious that he can barely hit the notes in the low part. Then he flawlessly goes 2 octaves up. It is just amazing to me that he could convince himself that he wouldn't be found out ...

[@kipponi]

Amazing singing back then but sad that someone(many people) proofed high voices are lip synced in this video😮.

[@rjh9220]

Faking for the Lord..Cheesy as

[@javiermirandarodriguez1972]

Vi el concierto el otro día y me quedé virolo... está claro que está cantando con su voz, en vivo, y no muy bien, hasta el 0:29 y a partir de ahí se obra el milagro y canta en modo Dios. En el resto de la canción se siguen alternando partes en las que canta con su voz en vivo (de ese, día, diría que incluso tocada, no está bien) como del 0:56 al 1:02 y lo mismo, a partir de ahí, otro cambio a la perfección... el que no quiera verlo, él mismo...

[@stevebrad7050]

Lip syncing in the choruses :(

[@MB-263]

Backing tracks in 2024 is common

[@stevebrad7050]

@@MB-263 Of course but when the "backing track" is the singers voice, in PLACE of the singer actually singing... that becomes lip syncing. At least Justin Bieber sings, even if it's auto-tuned and alongside a track of his main vocal

[@HumbleTrader001]

@@stevebrad7050and makes you wonder if any of the verses are lip synced

[@stevebrad7050]

@@HumbleTrader001 Yeah you're right... I think parts of them are. Because it goes from not great, to perfect tone and pitch

[@gulanhem9495]

@@MB-263 Michael Sweet did it in 1988 on the In God We Trust tour lol. Half of the songs were from a backing track.

[@heinabbott5172]

The age old story where power corrupts and fools the gullible.

[@RamilTabiolo]

Omg i thought it was not lip synching 🤣🤣🤣 thats why he didnt failed any high notes🤣🤣🤣

[@codylee25]

The part he actually sings is so flat. Just not able to hit those notes anymore.

[@emmanuelwolfmusic410]

To say im disappointed is an understatement. I honestly thought more if ken than this, especially when hes telling everyone if you can sing live, dont do it at all. Not to mention, lip syncing to a take done in the mid 1990s !!!

[@Neonlike0]

Great lip synching!

[@GoodTimes4All]

One can't help but wonder if anyone in the front row noticed his alien tongue? :D

[@natanaelguadalupeaviles1550]

love this song

[@tilenjk02]

Ken, can you teach how to lip synth?

[@johnny8771]

Maybe the same person can teach u how to type or proofread

[@TheRnROutlaw]

Living for my Lord? More like Living like a fraud.

[@ronnieblanchet4072]

Hey bro. I’m a fellow brother in The Lord n’ I’ve learned quite a lot from you over the years. I respect you and love you as a brother, so I don’t want to do this, but have to out of that love. After this recent dilemma with the lip sync in’ n’ all I have been critically skeptical all the way till I viewed wings of pegases (think I spelled that wrong) objective data. I’ve come to the conclusion that you did in fact sing the live performance, but there were moments that you had a supporting vocal to come in at specific times. This was all “wings” was sayin’, nothing more, nothing less (till you made your recent post of course when you talked about him and then there was attention brought to your guitar playing being mimed as well as your singing). The data he brought forth was objective and in your response to him specifically, you were not dealing with him and his arguments brother, but a straw-man. That’s beneath a follower of Christ. I do get it. There is a myriad of reasons for performers to use backing tracks (I believe even Brendan Urie did a similar thing for his farewell show on “Viva Las Vengeance”-it was a demanding show and it was being filmed! Nonetheless…) I’m sure that if he was asked about it (assuming there were no lawyers involved and he could be 100% honest and it was in fact found to be true) I don’t think he would deny it. He is an ex-mormon, but your a Christian and as a disciple of Christ, who you are in the public square is a representative of Him-The KING of the universe, so a proper admission is in order, not for yourself, but for The Lord. As your brother, I would be hateful (not loving) to not reach out to you in hopes that you would make this clarification. I have prayed and am hopeful you can make this clear for your audience amidst difficulties in regard to your public appearance, but at the end of the day, this is not about you or me (I’m certainly nobody), but HIM. We are all sinners (and those that know Him) we are saved by His grace. Let us not give place to those to smear His name by falsity if we proclaim Him as who He is: LORD. Please do the right thing. Much love to you, your work, your family, your krew, and the rest of your day/night Ken. God bless y’all☝️💀 SOLI DEO GLORIA (To The Glory Of God Alone) Father, Son & Holy Spirit -Ronnie

[@deebop4904]

You are in whats called " denial". Ask GOD for help. Ken is 100% fraud. If you cant tell this within 30 seconds, you need to become an accountant, or something else. Music isnt your thing.

[@mgbounty2673]

I have more respect for Cory Feldman!

[@mts982]

hes lip syncing the high versus.

[@manitouefcchurch9953]

Wow!!! Best video I've seen of Immortal Fest so far!!

[@SonicGrace]

Awesomeness !!!

[@bettyeurovision9524]

This is Motley Crue level of bad.

[@Gearslayer92]

Probably worser

[@AlexAnder-or3kq]

Is this the full lip sync version or half lip sync.

[@highnotesarecool]

half. Full is the livestream he deleted

[@Henrygames889]

Thank you so much for sharing! Incredible!!!

[@Squirrel-i6u]

Definitely not live! Some parts might be but anybody would struggle with those high notes, no matter who you are and they are too perfect.

[@rodzillarox4882]

I was there last night . Loved it!!

[@TheBrettWilson]

😂

[@noneyerbidness]

LOL, he's not even lip syncing it correctly. Not to mention his voice doesn't sound like that anymore. The show is over, Ken. It's a wrap. Lights out. Go home.

[@rayerscarpensael2300]

Kuddos to the guy pushing the mic hot or not button cause this is almost technically impossible to lip sync yes not from one phrase to another. For me it is difficult to judge as the only give away would be his mouth not opening wide enough.but as the guy has fo much volume it is not a criteria.

[@oliviermtd]

there's no need to turn the mic on and off from one phrase to the other. He just needs to produce no sound. Have a careful look at his lips and you'll see that there are a few times where don't don't move perfectly in sync with the lyrics we hear.

[@aleksimiikael]

Ken can sing very well. So why lip sync? And even if he couldn't, why can't you just do it 100% live?

[@nickjoseph5224]

It sounds like some of the latter half of the track is not lip-synched. He's doing some high runs that I don't hear on the recorded version after the break and into the ending.

[@TheDumballa]

Shameless canned vocals! Nothing worse then not singing live and faking it....

[@ChadHill-mg6oz]

I wish I could've been there, I love Ken Tamplin/Shout!!!!

[@u2live1]

Great Show!!! We rocked out all 3 day!!!

[@MegaLoucon]

Don't bands tune down when singers can't hit high notes anymore.

[@tobiaswolf6630]

Funny thing, there´s an older video where they did exactly that. I guess backing tracks were the better option. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rojHh2yIoNeAaLs

[@ActionFigureMagic]

Hahahahah😂

[@The_Original_Alex_Channel]

2:58 he's singing with the track, you can hear his voice twice

[@jimbaxter8488]

Backing tracks…how vain…

[@MB-263]

Backing tracks in 2024 is common

[@jimbaxter8488]

@@MB-263 don’t like them for live performance and don’t respect bands that use them….my personal opinion.

[@acmekanik9135]

Whats up with these accusations of lip syncing?

[@jimbaxter8488]

@@acmekanik9135 lead vocals aren’t lip sync’d but backing vocals are and probably other instruments…cheesy…

[@gabipit7702]

@@acmekanik9135 he lip synced the entire thing

[@kotzensue]

This is cool!

[@pascalamadeus2558]

😢

[@ericbucci6325]

Amazing he has the same range as the 1980s and he is like in his 60s

[@gulanhem9495]

Yes, it should be impossible. Nearly all metal singers almost completely lost the strength and range of their voice at this age. EDIT: people in the thread says it's all lip synced lol

[@hakancarlsson2881]

It's because what you hear was literally sang back then. 😂

[@FrycekTak]

@@hakancarlsson2881right😂😂

[@FrycekTak]

@@gulanhem9495because theres proof and not just this performance but all his covers are prerecorded so the question is how many takes did he need? thousand for one word?

[@gulanhem9495]

@@FrycekTak I think I believe you, but what evidence is there? Wot do u mean covers are prerecorded? What covers?

[@karlm8682]

Amazing!!!! So good STILL!!!!!

[@nathanelder5285]

What is Ken Tamplin- about 60?? This is insane!

[@Oldiesmann]

@@nathanelder5285 He'll be 61 in December

[@FrancisTheBerd]

It's all fake man

[@deepzepp4176]

He’s lip synching. Vocals are not live. He’s a fraud.

[@Theodax1]

Having purchased An Axe To Grind back in the 90's, I've loved this song for DECADES and listened to it literally THOUSANDS of times. This sounds FANTASTIC!!! There's a very good reason the students from KTVA are so much better at their craft than any other program.....HE'S THE REAL DEAL!!!

[@FrycekTak]

stfu hes a fraud, ken doesnt know what he's talking about and even worse he has been lip syncing for 3 decades now

[@TheDumballa]

The vocals are definitely on tape on most of the high notes....He is far from being real on these videos and choruses....

[@Theodax1]

@@TheDumballa This is NO surprise to ANYONE who's listened to Ken Tamplin for any real length of time. He's used vocal backing tracks for DECADES! Here's a neat tip for ya too.....MOST BANDS USE VOCAL TRACKS!!!! Motley Crue, Kiss, some of the biggest band touring over the last 30 years have used vocal backing tracks. Ken has been a major pioneer in vocal layering and remodulation since the 80's.

[@regularjack2]

@@Theodax1bro the fact he prides himself on having flawless technique and can’t do it live. BTW there’s evidence to suggest he’s been lip syncing since the late 80’s

[@amysson5151]

Incredible! Top tier! Exceptional performance, writing, singing, and playing. Now that’s a band. Real music. We need more of this today.

[@TravisRocco]

Most of the vocals are pre-recorded tracks and he's lip syncing. Lower parts he's singing.

[@benitokamelo252]

No thanks, enough playback

[@davealward5169]

Incredible performance after all these years. thx.

[@nickjoseph5224]

According to Ken he is not miming the high parts. Backing tracks were used for background vocals.

[@LousyFacelift]

Actually Ken already admitted to having lead vocals on this backing track. He then deleted the comment but it was captured before he did. Watch the videos Wings of Pegasus posted about Ken Tamplin.

[@franktranks9445]

Well of course fucking ken is gonna try to save his own ass

[@nickjoseph5224]

@@LousyFacelift It's interesting, because some of the songs in the concert do sound like Ken sang most of the song live, including the high parts. Backing tracks on the hooks for sure, but I'd have to check the specific tracks.

[@LousyFacelift]

@@nickjoseph5224 What's "interesting" to me is the fact he is lying even though the truth is plain to see, like in the example of him "playing" a note that's not even on the fretboard! And then talking about it as if Wings of Pegasus was spreading lies about him... And now we have many brainwashed "christian" fans defending his disgustingly narcissistic behavior. Very interesting indeed!

[@nickjoseph5224]

@@LousyFacelift He is playing guitar in this concert. I'm just looking at the whole concert including fan footage. So it looks like some songs are completely live with backing tracks.We can clearly hear the lead vocal doesn't match prerecoded tracks. I have to confirm using Fil's method. Now the last song of the concert, he is singing it totally live, until we get to the very end. I suspect a prerecorded track there, but I have to confirm. In any event I like the songs.

[@GoodTimes4All]

Ken Tamplin - hands-down the best Christian rock singer of all time.

[@mikemyers7580]

Ken Tamplin, Michael Sweet, Rob Rock and Rey Parra are all really great. My top 4 in no particular order

[@GoodTimes4All]

@@mikemyers7580 Michael doesn't have the same voice he had 20 years ago... Nor does Rey . The only one of the four you mentioned that has improved with age is Ken..

[@lowenbad]

Matthew Ward?

[@ToddCollins-j7m]

@@GoodTimes4All I have to respectfully disagree with you about Michael Sweet. I think his voice is actually better than it used to be, especially his lower register it's much fuller now. He still has those high notes too. Have you seen them live lately? I saw them last year and he's till hitting all those high notes too. Also, have you heard the new record? Michael is not playing around. Ken has always been amazing, but considering his age, the man is a legendary singer. I know he teaches singing as well, I follow his KTVA channel quite a bit and the man is ridiculously talented.

[@GoodTimes4All]

@@ToddCollins-j7m well I have heard him in many videos singing live over the past few years and he definitely does not have the same belting ability nor the range to hold for extended times like he did when he was younger.

[@Stryper1]

Wow…still sounds as strong as they did in the 80’s. What a great tribute to Godly living and singing for The Most High!!! Ken hasn’t lost any vocals…just like Michael Sweet of Stryper!!!

[@hakancarlsson2881]

Lip syncing helps. 🤷

[@raulazurduy5407]

1:13 Even Paul Stanley is better at lip syncing

[@rayerscarpensael2300]

There is not one clear miss on this video. I enlarged the screen, not one 100% sure lip mime imo.

[@captainbeyondmetal8213]

Forget the haters sing it brother GOD gave ypu the talent and you are using it to His glorification and it sounds awesome because yall ROCK!!!!

[@LousyFacelift]

Fil from Wings of Pegasus is not a hater! Watch his videos on Ken Tamplin if you really want to know what's going on. There is no point in talking about this if you haven't.

[@captainbeyondmetal8213]

Maybe you didn't read the negative replies that accuse him of not singing which is ridiculous. Ken has a great voice and uses it well giving glory to GOD almighty. Shout is a great band that shines the light of Christ through music that is live by the musicians.

[@LousyFacelift]

@@captainbeyondmetal8213 Do you know what Fil does on his channel Wings of Pegasus? He analyses audio and video material by request to see if it contains autotune or miming. Someone asked him to look into some of Ken's recordings and the result was clear as day that Ken mimed some of his studio recordings and part of his live performance without disclosing! Even grabbing a guitar, saying "...let's see how it goes!" and then miming his singing and guitar playing over an audio track! If you didn't know this and haven't watched the videos, you have no idea what everyone is talking about. I'm not saying Ken can't sing or even teach singing to a certain degree but he really isn't that great, always acting more than he is and he rips off those who fall for it. And what really makes me sick is that this "christian" now smears Fil from Wings of Pegasus who is only presenting undeniable facts. He lied to all his viewers and now he brainwashed his fans into lying to themselves.

[@captainbeyondmetal8213]

​@@LousyFaceliftAnd who checked him? Once again to Ken Tamplin ignore the haters and keep on singing and glorifying GOD and His Son Jesus!!!!

[@LousyFacelift]

@@captainbeyondmetal8213 You check what he is showing and saying in his videos! But I assume you haven't even watched them, have you?

[@axelvonripper]

Outrageous. He sounds as good or better from over 30 years ago when tamplin and friends came out.

[@gulanhem9495]

Prerecorded and lip synced.

[@axelvonripper]

@@gulanhem9495 I saw a video about that today.

[@regularjack2]

Well there’s a reason for that…..

[@anthonythegamingboi7061]

i never really liked the guy. But i will say that you will find that 50 percent or more of live concert performances are lipsynced. He did at one time sing these songs so you cant say that he cant sing. He should have just admitted it. One guy, a vocal coach made 8 videos so far on this subject. To me that is excessive. The internet just loves to bring people down.

[@Gearslayer92]

100% fraudster