Show Me The Evidence For Atheism | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

[@Snuggles_the_Unholy]

Hey, Cesar. It is not the job of Athiests to prove God isn't real. It is YOUR job to prove he is. Don't come on the show and demand we do your homework for you. And you are not listening anyway.

[@drpizzamd]

This is from 14 years ago, I don't think he's reading this one.

[@melchior2678]

He should do his homework and you should do yours. Your response to this caller shows you like to hide behind double standards.

[@Artman1]

@@drpizzamd It needs to be said for everyone else who makes the same argument.

[@Artman1]

@@melchior2678 "I don't believe you" needs no explanation.

[@melchior2678]

@@Artman1 Great so when you say "There is no evidence" and I say "I don't believe you" then STFU

[@jayess9752]

I love the argument that, if humans can't do it, right now, it must be intelligent design. And if humans CAN do it, well they are intelligent so that proves design.

[@Julian0101]

Well, duh. If humans cannot make ice in a refrigerator the irreducible complex snow flakes need an intelligent designer. And if humas can make ice then is evidence that an intelligent designer is necesary for the irreducible complex snow flakes.

[@neverendingparty7741]

I'll be happy to debunk your foolish Godless idea. If it doesn't happen by BASIC NATURE (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing) OR by MANIPULATIVE INTELLIGENCE (lab scientists), then it had to happen by an entity with intelligence, power & resources that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind and we call him "OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD." And to pile on your defeat, there is no such thing as "natural causes" or "natural processes" because nothing of BASIC NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). You're defeat is further proved by the fact that NOTHING of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous atheist cult has EVER BEEN OBSERVED or even proved to be POSSIBLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/ transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy). ONLY TRUE NATURE can be seen in every moment of every day (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine), while NOTHING of your atheist cult HAS EVER BEEN SEEN/OBSERVED (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/ transitional new anatomy/evolution). Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@neverendingparty7741]

@@Julian0101 Son, the topic is the intelligent design of NATURE and "ice in a refrigerator" isn't NATURE. And low-complexity formations such as "snowflakes" are not high-complexity/high function ORCHESTRATED structures, such as the human being. Try to learn the difference. You're debunked and too ignorant to be here.

[@bobgarrett7134]

Humans could never make a sun -- which works for billions of years, and without which Earth would be an ice ball. No life would exist. Humans cannot discover what materials make up an electron or a neutrino. We cannot figure out how an atom can have a functional life of 26 billion years. Humans cannot produce abiogenesis in the perfect conditions of a laboratory -- though we can make fighter jets, super computers, and the Large Hadron Collider.

[@AGodlessLife]

Circular logic that confirms your hypothesis no matter how you get there . . . is not trustworthy

[@F_N_Inquisitor]

This dude's got only two brain cells left, and they're both fighting for 3rd place

[@Maliceking]

I’m stealing this haha

[@MichaelFleming-e8t]

Brilliant reply.

[@dartharaneus67]

LOL!!

[@ibisiglesias6906]

😂😂 good one...👌💯🥂

[@markusdresden6640]

BIG LOL NICE

[@captainhowdy2782]

It's hard to communicate with a person who can't listen.

[@bodricthered]

Both can't and won't.

[@bobgarrett7134]

Many atheists refuse to listen to facts that prove God. Those who do listen convert to Christianity, which happens often.

[@twowardrobeswardrobes1536]

Or think.

[@geraldamos292]

Do Christians ever LISTEN? No

[@SevenPr1me]

@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 "it's based on the fallacy of demanding physical evidence for non physical claims" ironically, This is YOUR strawman of atheism. Atheism doesn't demand anything. I have asked you for an example of NONPHYSICAL evidence that rationally justifies believing that a god exists, and you couldn't give a single example. So why should I beleive a god exists? You haven't explained that yet, Mr Charlatan. and atheism works just fine for me. "Billions of people believe in a god, so I also believe in a God" You're the one who piggybacks off the beliefs of other people. So please, stop lying. I haven't strawmanned anything, I have repeatedly asked you to give specific examples of "NONphysical" evidence and you couldn't give me a single example. Yes, I'm aware you mentioned types of evidence like demonstative and testimonial evidence, but THAT is naming broad categories you arent giving specific examples within those categories that specifically relate to a god and whether or not it exists. You have yet to actually present an example of evidence, of any type, that rationally justifies believing a god exists. Your personal feelings and experiences do not qualify as conclusive evidence. You could be mistaken, confused or delusional. Your " opinion " is not reliable, and doesn't equate to "fact"

[@Rage867]

This call proves that ignorance and confidence go hand in hand.

[@Jcs57]

It’s called arrogant ignorance it’s a symptom of fundamentalist Christianity. If we brainwashed kids for any other nefarious reason it would be a criminal but since it’s part of a greater cultural mental illness it’s perfectly acceptable and this guy is is a perfect example of the end result.

[@MikeTMike]

Dunning and Krueger😂

[@GroundhogRoy]

It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant the theist callers to this show are.

[@rockys201]

It's because they're all fake callers

[@VanHalenIsolated]

@@rockys201this is a joke right?

[@rockys201]

@@VanHalenIsolated no. Listen to the callers, most of them are fake

[@eutoteu5680]

@@rockys201 There are a lot of trolls true but there are a lot of fools also .

[@firmbase]

@@rockys201 oh I'm sure you would love to believe that. Maybe, JUST maybe, theist callers are actually this stupid. Routinely. Every day.

[@sfprivateer]

"Show me evidence for not believing a claim!" Just shows how stupid people are... Why does someone want evidence if I don't believe them? Imagine a conversation like this: - I believe that Metallica is my favourite band. - I don't believe you! - show me the evidence that you don't believe me! - wtf....

[@BaronVonQuiply]

_"But what if you're wrong?"_

[@melchior2678]

"Imagine w conversation like this" Proceeds to post a conversation that looks like two typical internet atheists

[@gregsimmons694]

More importantly , Jesus saves sinners! If you like it heavy, MEGADETH weighs a ton! God bless you

[@sfprivateer]

@@melchior2678 so now there are internet atheists and offline atheists? are there online theists, offline theists, internet theists, LAN theists aswell?

[@RussianPrimeMinister]

​@@gregsimmons694 If god showed up and came down to me from the clouds with goddamn Megadeth screeching magically from all directions, I might just convert.

[@ARoll925]

Caesar is so confused, it always amazes how confident these theists are of things they clearly have no idea about

[@quotedotes]

Once you start to understand that theist arguments all revolve around defending their chosen emotional belief, then you can start to take apart how many rational ideas they dismiss, in order to maintain their emotions and irrational identity. Their mind is made up, don't try to confuse them with facts!

[@MeTooAshleyBiden.]

It always amazes me how the atheist doesn't comprehend the burden of proof and constantly shifts the burden of proof. Anyway just curious do you believe the origins of Life came into existence without the Creator without God? If so please provide evidence to why you believe that . If not I'm glad we've at least found commonality and that would be the fact neither one of us believes the origins of Life came into existence without the Creator without God.

[@MeTooAshleyBiden.]

​@@quotedotes Do you believe the origins of Life came into existence without God without the Creator ? If so please provide evidence to why you believe that. If not I'm glad both of us were able to logically reason enough that neither of us believes the origins of Life came into existence without the Creator without God .

[@ARoll925]

@@MeTooAshleyBiden. No, by saying this you are just demonstrating how you don't understand the burden of proof, it's such a sad and pathetic apologetic argument, it's not even worth replying, other than no, that's just not correct

[@junipii]

​@@MeTooAshleyBiden.​@MeTooAshleyBiden. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Saying that Sky Daddy created everything is very much extraordinary. Stating the lack of evidence for Sky Daddy's existence is not extraordinary. So what exactly leads you to believe that theists lack the burden of proof?

[@LostArktikos]

when the first words are "i have an honest question", you know honesty has long left the conversation...

[@LostArktikos]

and only better than he ends it with "its not an argument from ignorance, its what I KNOW about chemistry and what I KNOW about matter in motion, and what I KNOW about... things can't come together to produce anything working... [therefore god did it]"

[@Jex2112]

“This is the problem I have with Atheists.. they ask honest questions” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ianchisholm5756]

'Molecules in motion': the phrase that inevitably means 'I don't want to understand what the science says.'

[@kitchencarvings4621]

I hate that phrase too. Yeah, molecules move, but they also do all sorts of other things like get hot, get cold, turn into gas, turn into plasma, combine with each other, emit light, and form larger more complex molecules. Each molecule has certain properties that allow them to do certain things like self-replicate. It's a lot more than just "molecules in motion". But to evade facts and drop context is par for the course for theists.

[@filipecardozo]

@@kitchencarvings4621 do you realise that heat is motion, right? So when you say, motion, hot and cold, your talking about the same thing

[@patjacksonpodium]

I am so sick of Cesar calling the cell "the most complicated thing in the universe" when IKEA furniture exists.

[@MichaelFleming-e8t]

This is my favorite quote this month!

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Bork bork bork!

[@MrArchaeopterix]

Hahahahaha, good one...

[@Valkyrie77]

I'm saving this one! 😂

[@erikelenstrom9685]

I get that this is a mem. But do Americans or others accaly think that IKEA furniture is hard to assemble?

[@timothyhoft]

I would love to see a call go like this: "Prove to me that God doesn't exist" "First, prove to me that leprechauns don't exist" "Well...there's no evidence that leprechauns exist." "Awesome. You're an atheist now." (Hangs up)

[@bodricthered]

To be fair, they're either an atheist or they're dishonest. That second one's an option.

[@jamespowers5951]

Wrong. We know that this world had a cause/source, because it had a beginning and an eventual end via heat death. That said, no leprechaun or any other KNOWN FANTASY fits the bill. The cause/source for this world is required to exist, while KNOWN FANTASY is irrelevant to that topic.

[@sirbarryvee-eight6485]

I often use the quote "We are all atheist, I just go one god further".

[@Dutch_Vander_Linde_]

​@@bodrictheredNope.

[@Mr_Porter]

Every time Cesar called, it played out exactly like this: each call was equally painful and somewhat hilarious, as he attempted to parrot words and sentences he had read or heard from others. I remember one of the hosts asking him to explain what he had just said and he failed miserably.

[@quotedotes]

That's how you can tell the trolls from the actually delusional callers, eventually the trolls will start snickering, the theist will just get progressively more desperate to defend their identity in their chosen in-group.

[@Mr_Porter]

ABS🎯LUTELY ​@@quotedotes

[@dallenford9592]

I think my favorite line was when he tried to claim that the cell is more complex than the brain--which is made of cells. That's like saying the engine is more complex than the car. It's just plain wrong.

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

Brilliant!

[@spookyariel1]

He speaks like his brain is made of mashed potatoes.

[@TH3-MONK]

What's the evidence for atheism? Theistic claims have not met their burden of proof.

[@jaydeejohnson7]

Beliefs do not carry the burden, the onus is on the one claiming a certain belief. In this case, theist

[@slickmcCool]

​@@JimCastleberrywhat do you feel is the best evidence for a god's existence?

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

​@@JimCastleberry theist think it's okay fo act out on whatver the voice in their head which is their own thoughts says that they would do to anybody they dont like no matter how much harm and death they cause. Stop killing people

[@youtubestudiosucks978]

Stop trying to kill people who dont think exactly like you do ​@@JimCastleberry

[@Mr_Rouge]

@@JimCastleberry You are lying to claim theists have met their burden of proof.

[@jpbaley2016]

“What is your evidence that atheism is true?” I would point to the empty space next to me and say “see, no god.” Cesar is the perfect example of how a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. His ignorance of the actions within a cell is remarkable.

[@tconnelly8]

Shitty home school energy here

[@trichinosis333]

I was home-schooled in a tight christian family. Then I discovered extreme heavy metal music & I quickly lost all interest in the whole religious lifestyle.

[@quotedotes]

Nailed it

[@MrStringybark]

@@trichinosis333 Expressing loud anger is much more satisfying in the short term than being tolerant.

[@noracola5285]

@@MrStringybark there's no anger required to have intolerance of bullshit.

[@Sekhubara]

Cesar: "Show me evidence of the Universe creating itself" Host: "Big Bang" Cesar: "That's just an event" Why bother with the dishonest?

[@bobs182]

It is strange how creationists want more evidence of the BB yet they accept god did with no evidence whatsoever.

[@pallejensen9484]

big bang was accually an event. the very FIRST one accually out of a TRILLION events since... just like his god is a mindless brain lol

[@shaun7193]

Where were all of you when I was growing up? I was surrounded by believers and I believed when I was first told about god as a child then over time the logic just didn’t make sense. Felt so weird like am I really the only one that doesn’t believe this?!

[@slickmcCool]

In Texas

[@catchbay]

"what proof do you need that intelligence is needed to produce life" When you look at where the most new life is produced, I would argue that it doesn't take much intelligence

[@Snuggles_the_Unholy]

Good point. Nobody ever ordered a pizza by mistake, yet kids pop up everywhere.

[@bobs182]

When we consider how insignificant human intelligence is to the universe, why would anyone think a human like mind would be master of the universe or be able to will it into existence? Our sense of self-importance is instinctual and is the basis of belief in gods.

[@Jcs57]

I would argue that if intelligence is the byproduct of an omnipotent being then why is intelligence localized to apparently one speck of dust in the vastness of the cosmos.

[@pallejensen9484]

lol yeah and hes the evidence it self 😂😂😂. just by the way he talks. witch is WAY MORE than his so called god has EVER done.

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

@@bobs182 Humans think that intelligence puts them above all other life, but what do they know about crows, parrots, dolphins, and whales? There is also a certainty, that when something worse than the Chixculub bolide hits this planet, bacteria have the best chance of surviving. Even if there was time when it was detected, for a subterranean nuclear powered shelter to be built for a human survival population, how would they be chosen and what living things would they take with them? The late, brilliant biologist E.O.Wilson said we haven't the faintest idea of what micro-organisms we depend upon.

[@kantoros]

"Only life can make life" is a really interesting statement to me. ik what they actualy mean by it but at face value, the sandwich im eating isn't alive, yet it turns into more of me. im turning non-life into life by existing

[@radiorebel8223]

My problem is, that doesn’t really apply to their god somehow. For some reason, their god is just able to spontaneously exist, but somehow no other explanation could also just spontaneously exist

[@Beacon80]

​@@radiorebel8223And their god doesn't fit any meaningful definition of "life", either.

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

If you have an intelligent God who defines the nature of Nature, that includes chemistry and physics. The Laws of Nature understates the case. You can break the Law, and be punished for it, or maybe not. No consistent God would allow his ""son" in a human body, to break what we call the law of gravity. But to return to chemistry and physics, if the Almighty Creator wants there to be Life, He, She, It, or They would arrange that perhaps in rare cases, both abiogenesis and evolution by natural Selection would make "supernatural" mucking about unnecessary.

[@Dude99124]

Thanks to the person reviewing calls from the past to find some interesting exchanges. I liked the diversity of the hosts in that time period. They helped me to finally “jumping off the fence” and “lose my religion”. Ten years later and so much better.

[@MajChronic]

"I only have SOME college." Wise men speak because they have something to say. Fools speak because they have to say something.

[@Snuggles_the_Unholy]

I am stealing this 💯

[@joelonsdale]

Cesar is the intellectual embodiment of him dropping out of college: he's has knowledge but is missing that final step...

[@shrews12001]

Nothing ever attributed to God has proven to be above the mundane. Nothing more complicated than what we can currently understand is inherently supernatural. If God exists it is of no consequence and if it is of no consequence then it isn't god.

[@shrews12001]

@@JimCastleberry those things are all mundane. if you don't know what that word means look it up before you whine again. if i have no idea what i'm talking about stop bitching and disprove it

[@slickmcCool]

​@@JimCastleberrycan you demonstrate that any of those points exclusively to a god

[@God_Is_An_Atheist]

@@JimCastleberry You're assuming that evidence of design is an objective quality obvious to all viewers. In reality, the ability to discern design is largely a function of familiarity and cultural context. And there is no fine tuning in the Universe, that's one of the dumbest arguments you could make. Due to the sheer size of the universe; with one hundred billion stars in the galaxy, and as many galaxies in the universe, even a minuscule chance of life arising makes it extremely likely that it will occur somewhere. Moreover, no matter how unlikely an event is, once it occurs, the probability of it having happened is 1. In addition, as with the examples under anthropic principle, the size of the universe argues against this for another reason: if the universe is actually "fine tuned" for life, why is it so ridiculously devoid of it? And fine tuning arguments based on the physical constants are even easier to refute.

[@Julian0101]

@@JimCastleberry Correct neppy, as only a REALLY stupid god would get wrong the order of its own creation, then your magical fairy cannot be the cause for the not-mundane beginning of the universe. As always, congratulations for debunking yourself.

[@t800fantasm2]

@@JimCastleberry "You really have no idea what you are blabbering about" Projection. You have zero education in physics, biology, astronomy, orbital mechanics, chemistry, anthropology, zoology, botany or any other relevant topic. I'd bet all your moronic claims come from you going on bible sites where other uneducated twat-waffles lied about science to gullible fools...

[@johngrossman5185]

You can hear in his voice and the way he talks that he just hasn’t been taught the correct way to think

[@Jcs57]

He doesn’t even pickup on his own internal contradictions It’s not testable it’s only a guess when talking about abiogenesis then follows with it had to be a magical sky wizard. This is what happens to a brain programmed to only accept predetermined conclusions.

[@johnosborne3187]

I would love to see a compilation of theists saying, "Oh. That makes sense. What I was saying was stupid." It probably won't be very long, but it would be entertaining.

[@douglasdavis8395]

Yes, probably can't expect the Green Light for a sequel!

[@arby796]

One minute "I'm not religious, I'm saying aliens did it." Next minute "god did it!"

[@gaefugg]

i love how the arguments never change

[@sunzi42]

Cesar IS the "argument of ignorance".

[@cggambill]

Leading with "this is an honest question" will always be followed by a condescending attempt at a gotcha question.

[@jens2old2care]

I feel like if you scanned his brain, we could literally see it firing in circles.

[@twcnz3570]

Firing? Dimly glowing...

[@MikeTMike]

"Only life can make life" "Is God alive?' "Yes!" "Who made his life?" "😮"

[@ernestoamador2481]

If I don't have a car ,how can I prove to you that I don't have a car? Oh brother, smart question!.

[@24magiccarrot]

But you really do have a car, you are just lying to yourself so you can walk.

[@amtlpaul]

Funny how the trolls who keep claiming to have destroyied atheism decades ago have to keep insisting that they did to atheists in the comments section of an arheist YT channel!

[@Alacritous]

Listening to this guy gibber his ignorance is making my teeth hurt.

[@peterlamboy5940]

Cesar the Science Guy.

[@ttthecat]

😅

[@dogwalker666]

Ceaser word Salad.

[@bofelden8433]

😂😂

[@WhoAteJoeysUncle]

If I had to think of one position that best describes anti-science I would say atheism if I had to think of one word to describe anti-science it would be a disbelief. Atheism is an unwillingness or inability to accept God as true it's a disbelief. Has nothing to do with logic has nothing to do with science. Matter of fact you cannot be an agnostic you cannot be a believer in God and also be completely brain-dead without a capability of a thought but you can be an atheist without having the ability to think with being completely brain-dead. It would mean you don't have the ability to accept God as true. Atheism is a biased position and I wish atheists would just come out and admit it. You always hear atheist make claims outside of atheism like claim God doesn't exist God Is a fairytale but they will never provide any evidence for that claim. Evidence also shows us the belief in God has been proven to be an instinctive thought and or a logical conclusion. Which means the belief in God has been proven to be justified

[@subspacecentral]

@@WhoAteJoeysUncle Forgive me for not believing someone who can't comprehend basic grammar much less claim they can demonstrate a god is required.

[@alexissmith5589]

The fallacies, the special pleading, the ignorance, the arrogance and the refusal to admit their wrong. Cesar make my brain hurt.

[@GalapagosPete]

If he’s still around, it would be great if Cesar were to call in and talk to Forest. 😁

[@gracefulsledge2857]

Inconceivable! This guy truly has a dizzying intellect. Vizzini would be proud of his pupil.

[@aarondeimund6898]

Wow. This one is over ten years old and the proofs have literally not changed in the slightest bit.

[@Doodlebird138]

This is a legendary dynamic duo.

[@257.4MHz]

We need to face the distinct possibility that humanity is in transition from none of us being able to comprehend atheism toward all of us being able to understand it. At this point in our evolution, many people just don't have the required hardware

[@QuietWind01]

I'm so sorry 😅 I got halfway through the video and I have to dip. I simply cannot deal with so much stupidity for that long from Cesar. I'm losing brain cells. I must self preservate.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

It's like flat earthers.

[@georgem2334]

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -- Christopher Hitchens

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

I think maybe Bertrand Russell said it first.

[@nightfall902]

@@jacksimpson-rogers1069 Hitchens's razor

[@andruloni]

'If a quote's origin is in contention, Ernest Hemingway said it.' - Ernest Hemingway

[@wildmanfisher]

"Energy" so easily becomes a term like "The Force".

[@quasnof]

"My thoughts are energy." Sound profound and mystical until you realise that "My farts are energy." is also true.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@quasnof Kid, I've been from one end to of this galaxy to the other and I've smelled a lot of straaange things ...

[@DozuDeku]

Facts, everything is not energy. Energy is generated, matter is not energy.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

@@DozuDeku Energy is neither created nor destroyed, but matter is energy according to E=mc².

[@dragonhealer7588]

​@@DozuDeku And yet, as far as our measurements show, all matter was formed from energy.

[@AussieNaturalist]

Cesar was, and probably still is, a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

[@dlbsyst]

Even as a child I have wondered how anyone can believe an invisible god that has never been shown to interact with the world exists. It makes no sense.

[@MRLL9292]

I wonder, If caesar were to phone in when he was awake, he would probably have a good conversation.

[@chrisgross2043]

🎶🎵 The Wheels on the Bus Go Round and round 🎶🎵😂

[@luv2fly745]

The wheels on the extremely SHORT bus 😂🤦

[@oldcountryboy]

You need to have these ladies back on the show See how they eloquently destroy the man's arguments with no anger and No talking down to the person These were much better hosts

[@spocksvulcanbrain]

Cesar has knowledge of the terms, but not the fundamentals of what he's arguing. You know "just enough to make you dangerous." He's disingenuous, misinformed, not interested in a discussion - only in preaching, denies anything that refutes his position and, worst of all, tries to use science to debunk science. That's always the kicker for me. So laughable. Cells are NOT machines as Cesear thinks of them. It's frustrating to listen to his nonsense.

[@collin571]

Bro is confusing machines with mechanisms of action

[@spinav8r]

Cesar's argument is this: I am very high, therefore I have evidence.

[@jonclark8252]

Theist: Something can't come from nothing. Me: Cool, where did your deity get the materials needed to make the universe/reality? Theist:....UM.....

[@jonclark8252]

Dear Theists, How do you know that the deity you believe in is the "real" one and the thousands - if not millions - of other deities are "not real"?

[@joshsheridan9511]

​@@JimCastleberrywhat most theists believe is irrelevant

[@jonclark8252]

@@JimCastleberry "There is no multiple of God..." Another claim that you will fail to prove. Since you fail to prove the existence of one deity, the existence of multiple deities will be a failure on multiple levels for you. However, I didn't state that there were multiple deities. I said that there are thousands - if not millions - of deities that have been worshiped. You claim that yours is real, and the other deities are not. How do you know? Try answering the question asked you lying hypocritical coward.

[@jamespowers5951]

The God of the Bible is the one true God and Jesus is the only one God the Father has ever raised from the dead. There can only be one infinite being: 1. An infinite being lacks nothing. 2. For 2 beings to differ, one has to lack something the other has. 3. A being that lacks something, is not infinite. 4. Therefore, there can only be one infinite being. 5. An ultimate being has no potential, because the potential is maxed out. Therefore, it’s a contradiction to say there can or should be more than one infinite being. That would erroneously state that a finite being is not maxed out potential and another one is needed to reach full potential. 6. To say this infinite being is the Christian G0D, we go into the historical evidence of Jesus and his Word. It is patently obvious there can only be one supernatural first cause/prime mover/God.

[@jamespowers5951]

The God of the Bible is the one true God and Jesus is the only one God the Father has ever raised from the dead. There can only be one infinite being: 1. An infinite being lacks nothing. 2. For 2 beings to differ, one has to lack something the other has. 3. A being that lacks something, is not infinite. 4. Therefore, there can only be one infinite being. 5. An ultimate being has no potential, because the potential is maxed out. Therefore, it’s a contradiction to say there can or should be more than one infinite being. That would erroneously state that a finite being is not maxed out potential and another one is needed to reach full potential. 6. To say this infinite being is the Christian G0D, we go into the historical evidence of Jesus and his Word. It is patently obvious there can only be one supernatural first cause/prime mover/God.

[@dragonhealer7588]

​@@jamespowers5951 According to the Bible, El gave Yahweh the Israelites to be his people. Other Gods got other tribes of the people of Canaan. Deuteronomy.

[@esdet105]

I believe the caller evolved into an in-cel.

[@vidhead85]

He doesn't understand that HE has the burden of proof. And just wants to ramble on without any regard for "Hey, this person will push back"

[@raygowan1968]

I would love to hear this call now that we have learned more. If he could call back one day Forrest is on and get the explanation of all the building blocks of life being found on asteroids in space.

[@erinclark5681]

"Nothing is more complicated than a cell!" Lots of things are. Large hadron collider I'd put leagues over "cells" for conplexity.

[@bodricthered]

Or any multicellular organism, by definition.

[@erinclark5681]

@@bodricthered Indeed!

[@isaacbruner65]

Some cells are also more complicated than other cells. E. coli is pretty basic compared to a neuron.

[@michaelsorensen2539]

This is scary. And sad

[@BenjaminHartleyReturns]

Indeed. This is what happens to the general population when we underfund public education and vilify scientific literacy for decades.

[@MrSandmanatee]

These people vote too 🫥

[@deanmartin1111]

It sounds like Cesar has a bag of ducks in his mouth.

[@collincricket]

He's completely quackers

[@Arquea_Lucus_Wolven]

Quite duckin' fowl, mate lol

[@beaconeersofthesevenmaps3467]

High on drugs

[@oldpossum57]

Lovely metaphor. Remember Orwell calling those fluent in newsspeak “doubleplusgood duckspeakers”.

[@deanmartin1111]

@@oldpossum57 I actually meant to say dicks. Hehehe

[@artemisnite]

Dude was so sure he had the antidote to atheism. 😂 His argument is basically "WOW!! LOOK AT ALL THE PRETTY COLORS!"

[@eric123silver]

Seems like this recording was from 17 Oct 2010. Interesting to hear that the arguments have not changed since then. You still hear the same arguments now.

[@blumoon131]

The dude is a literal mouth-breather.

[@Goldenhawk583]

So am I , due to a flaw in my nose ( to say it simply). Thank you for calling me a blithering idiot bt default.

[@HippieHumanist]

I so miss these gals😢

[@onepunch9203]

@ 13:52 Cesar said, "The origins of life is a mystery.....". 🤦‍♂️ Therefore, god? WTF? 🥴 We live in interesting times. 🇺🇸

[@Gerryjournal]

This is what happens when a person is programmed to live with one foot in the 1st century and one in the 21st. The mental gymnastics are destructive

[@DiamondPearl]

Opening line: Cesar: "Yeah, I'm a believer..." 22:43: Cesar: "Yeah, I'm not really a religious person, so..." Make your mind up Cesar!

[@LawrenceAdele1919]

I am astounded on how many religious people call this program without having ANY study or knowledge of science at all. It's very embarrassing and speaks to our dismal educational systems. Yikes.

[@elgatofelix8917]

Educational system is largely run by secularists like the ones who host this channel. Thank them for how dismal their system is.

[@neverendingparty7741]

And yet NOTHING of the atheist cult is "science" whatsoever, because NONE OF IT CAN BE OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@somersetcace1]

This topic gets tedious. I know what he's trying to ask for, but `show me evidence of atheism?` The evidence is that there are people in the world who do not believe in gods. What more evidence for atheism does one need?

[@AIVSRelilgion]

His argument is one of the top things that got me out of this cult. There was a day when the ONLY possible explanation for lightning was God. Then we figured that out and religious people stopped using that argument and moved on to the next. Which was ... that the ONLY possibility for living things to have offspring was God. Then we figured that out. and religious people stopped using that argument and moved on to the next. NOW it is ... the ONLY thing that can explain the cell is GOD (oops - "intelligent designer") Not to mention the thousands of items between all those that were once claimed to be God - but are now fully understood natural phenomena. So --- it isn't the consistent progress made by science that shows religion is wrong in every claim that convinces me that religious people are wrong about God. And it isn't that EVERY SINGLE time we discover the actual cause for something it turns out to be a natural event - NOT supernatural. Is the never-ending failures of those ARROGANT enough to say that if THEY don't know how it is done - then it must be God. That point comes through LOUD and CLEAR every time I hear it. Religious people claim that if THEY PERSONALLY can't figure out how something works then it MUST be impossible and thus God-Dun-It. How arrogant can you get?!?!?

[@neverendingparty7741]

Wrong. We have the OBSERVED EVIDENCE and there are no gaps. Since when can a mud puddle produce the human being? Since when can anything of BASIC NATURE (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing) produce anything at all? The asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. There's not one atheist on the face of this earth that can present a rational atheist explanation for reality. That's why atheists scream "WE DON'T MAKE CLAIMS!" That's because your Godless cult is absolute NONSENSE. I'll be happy to debunk your foolish Godless ideas. If it doesn't happen by BASIC NATURE (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing) OR by MANIPULATIVE INTELLIGENCE (lab scientists), then it had to happen by an entity with intelligence, power & resources that are FAR BEYOND that of mankind and we call him "OUR INFINITE/ETERNAL/SUPERNATURAL GOD." And to pile on your defeat, there is no such thing as "natural causes" or "natural processes" because nothing of BASIC NATURE can produce the human being or anything else (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, nothing). You're defeat is further proved by the fact that NOTHING of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous atheist cult has EVER BEEN OBSERVED or even proved to be POSSIBLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/ transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy). ONLY TRUE NATURE can be seen in every moment of every day (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine), while NOTHING of your atheist cult HAS EVER BEEN SEEN/OBSERVED (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/ transitional new anatomy/evolution). Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@tonyclements1147]

⁠ Hush Edith, no one is buying into your bullshite.

[@adamheywood113]

@@neverendingparty7741 >We have the OBSERVED EVIDENCE and there are no gaps. When did you see any deities doing anything?

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

The funny thing is that centuries ago, Spinoza believed in God, and utterly rejected the idea that any event could be *_supernatural_* . The nature of Nature was defined by God.

[@TheSnoeedog]

"... I have another one, I'm a believer in the near death experience" Bunny, meet Buzz Saw; Buzz Saw, Bunny I love when the bunny comes out the end of the wood chipper and hurries back around for another run-through

[@petebetz5358]

Those men didn't create those amino acids. They just set up the perimeters that would have existed and then watched what happened. Amino acids...

[@SecondaryHomunculus]

Hey Caesar, I'd like to introduce you to a couple people -- Dunning and Kruger.

[@gshoots4357]

This guy can't even string a sentence together let alone put any reasonable argument together. ignorance and indoctrination make for an arrogant combination.

[@Valicroix]

The null hypothesis is to reject a claim unless there is evidence to support it. Caesar is basically putting forth an Argument from Incredulity. He can't imagine how life began without a god therefore it couldn't have happened.

[@kevinx7015]

So, according to the Null Hypothesis, when there is no evidence supporting the conclusion that there is no God, the proper response is to reject the claim that there is no God. Okey-dokey then.

[@Valicroix]

@@kevinx7015 If someone made the claim that there is no god, then yes, that would be true. The claim should be rejected without adequate evidence to justify it. But about 99.9% of atheists don't make that claim. They simply reject the claim of theists that a god or gods exist as being unjustified. Not accepting the existence of a god is not the same thing as claiming that a god doesn't exist. Sometimes "I don't know" is the only reasonable answer.

[@kevinx7015]

@@Valicroix And where is your source that states 99.9% of atheists don’t make the claim that there is no God? Also, where does it show that 99.9% of atheists have a neutral stance when it comes to determining whether or not there is a God, since that is the only way an atheist truly hasn’t made any claims regarding deity?

[@kevinx7015]

@@Valicroix When an atheist rejects a belief in a God while not rejecting the conclusion that there is no God, then that shows that atheist has picked a side, and so Occam’s razor applies.

[@Valicroix]

@@kevinx7015 Theist vs atheist has to do with belief. A theist believes in the existence of a god and an atheist does not. The claim that a god or gods exist is a positive claim that requires justification through evidence. Atheists do not believe that there is sufficient evidence to justify the claim. Rejecting a claim is not the same thing as claiming that it is false. When a jury finds a defendant not guilty it doesn't require that they think he is innocent (although they may) but simply that the prosecutor did not meet the required burden of proof. In Scotland they say "not proven" which I think is more accurate. An atheist does not usually claim that there is no god (although some do). If one did, then that is a positive claim that needs to be justified with evidence. Occam's razor simply says "“plurality should not be posited without necessity.” So the conclusion with the fewest requirements or the simpler explanation is usually true.

[@terrencelockett4072]

This caller is a prime example of how so many theists that try to be apologists don't understand the burden of proof. He doesn't recognize that a big part of science is about not believing claims without proven evidence for the claim. So him wanting scientific evidence for why god doesn't exist is kind of irrelevant to an atheist's main claim. Since there's no proven scientific evidence for a god existing, why should we believe a god exists, if he's stuck on just scientific evidence. But he thinks it's scientific evidence that we build machines and the actions that happen within cells was described to him or he got an understanding through describing them as machines means intelligent life designed everything.

[@enricopajaro4046]

For someone who talks plenty about intelligence, he has precious little of it

[@alanevery215]

Cesar, another success for the US education system!

[@mikemorris3421]

This is painful !

[@thethoughtfield]

6:27 nop sir. Atheism has nothingto do "nichts, NADA, niente" with biology, science or evolution. Atheism is just a position on the god claim

[@JoshuaSmithit]

love the throwbacks..these ladies were savage

[@mikaelnielsen5759]

I'm glad, I'm soo glad, to have been brought up and to live in THE recognised most secular country in the world and in which shows like these would be a total waste of time. Yes, for example, we don't have any televangelists what so ever and, yes, we do have a religious political party who gets around 5 % at the elections. This party is what the Americans would call pro choice and have been so since 1972. Why, you might ask? Because abortion is health care, there are no questions asked and is also free of charge.

[@crystalw8050]

So, so far DNA/the cell has been compared to Lego, machines, code.. what am I missing?

[@DanielMWJ]

Systems chemistry. Lawl.

[@ARoll925]

Two best hosts ever on this show

[@alamunez]

Yes 👍

[@jamespowers5951]

Like your atheist cult, these hosts have ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism is TOTAL NONSENSE. The God of the Bible is the one true God and Jesus is the only one God the Father has ever raised from the dead. There can only be one infinite being: 1. An infinite being lacks nothing. 2. For 2 beings to differ, one has to lack something the other has. 3. A being that lacks something, is not infinite. 4. Therefore, there can only be one infinite being. 5. An ultimate being has no potential, because the potential is maxed out. Therefore, it’s a contradiction to say there can or should be more than one infinite being. That would erroneously state that a finite being is not maxed out potential and another one is needed to reach full potential. 6. To say this infinite being is the Christian G0D, we go into the historical evidence of Jesus and his Word. It is patently obvious there can only be one supernatural first cause/prime mover/God.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

and now Forest too:)

[@MrBozoOzo]

Is it just me, or does it seem like this guy is lying down in his sofa, getting high and calling to the show?

[@DrMikeE100]

Cesar epitomizes an observation: his proclivity to keep interrupting obnoxiously is directly proportional to his level of ignorance (and aggressiveness in so doing). Classic Dunning-Kruger on top of indoctrination and arguing from ignorance/ incredulity.

[@DavidmByrd]

The caller can not see the difference between Pretend make believe and real

[@charliehands5266]

I struggle to accept the fact that people like this actually exist.

[@MrGoogelaar]

It is frightening that idiots like this exist and that they are allowed to breed and walk the streets.

[@markpolice3585]

Prove God? No. Theists are gonna show how badly they misunderstand evolution while thinking that they're debunking it.

[@WhoAteJoeysUncle]

The problem is so many people who believe in evolution can't distinguish between what's factual and what's basically a hypothesis. For example organisms evolved this is proven by the scientific method. But the idea that our ancestors were apes and sea creatures are not proven by the scientific method.

[@jamespowers5951]

As soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, transitional new anatomy/evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism). STOP believing the IMPOSSIBLE & NEVER OBSERVED. NOTHING of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous atheist cult has EVER BEEN OBSERVED or even proved to be POSSIBLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy). Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@lenkajf7816]

Hats off to these women for their patience 🎉❤

[@Arkloyd]

None of my cells are more complex than the computer I have in my house. Cells have far less parts than the car in your garage.

[@donaldcook2484]

The intelligent design concept has so many holes its laughable and embarrassing in a natural world due to the human design flaws and our planet is subject to catastrophic events etc etc

[@jamespowers5951]

Not even close. All atheist ideas have been debunked for centuries. As soon as you can present NEW TRANSITIONAL ANATOMY that differs from ancestry, let me know. Until then, transitional new anatomy/evolution is totally debunked. You are the very definition of pathological stupidity/denial/delusion (atheism). STOP believing the IMPOSSIBLE & NEVER OBSERVED. NOTHING of the asinine, lost & clueless, ridiculous atheist cult has EVER BEEN OBSERVED or even proved to be POSSIBLE (e.g. big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy). Try to learn what I'm teaching you before it's too late (when your temporary free will expires at your last gasp on earth and you go to an eternal hell - wishing you had never been born). YOU CAN’T AFFORD TO GET THIS WRONG. Because 100+ trillion yrs from the moment you entire hell, it won’t even be the start of eternity! For now, you and every facet of your asinine, lost & clueless cult of atheism are hereby debunked (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, transitional new anatomy/evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy).

[@hazok4351]

Clarifying this whole conversation: Caller claims that he hasn't seen naturally occurring complex things forming without an intelligence behind it (so yes, it's the fallacy of an argument from ignorance) He then claims that because he hasn't seen it occur, therefore there MUST have been an intelligence. So there is a model/hypothesis in which there is said intelligence, and this intelligence would be able to design life. It would make sense, so I know where he is coming from, but it's a circular model. With no proof or demonstration this is still just a model or a bias.

[@dalelawrence85]

He says the ‘aliens created life’ idea is a stop gap because it doesn’t explain how the aliens were created. So he posits God as the answer without needing to explain how God was created. 🤦‍♂️

[@terrencelockett4072]

So he's really saying he won't accept any scientific evidence for how organic cells didn't need an "intelligence" to come into existence. How could we even do the experiments without putting our intelligence into duplicating the hypothesises of natural occurrences.

[@noracola5285]

This has been our reminder to check our CO detectors. Stay safe, everyone!

[@herawynn1397]

The "machine" of a body creates a baby and that is natural. Why is the cell different?

[@exiledone69]

Especially when a body is just a collection of cells