Do Atheists Think That Jesus Was Just A Myth? | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

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@tg8603
@tg8603 4 ай бұрын
The caller is way too emotionally invested in his conclusion and is fighting tooth and nail to defend his irrational thinking.
@daydays12
@daydays12 3 ай бұрын
There are millions of people like him unfortunately.
@bruhmoment5020
@bruhmoment5020 2 ай бұрын
but he's open minded lmao
@coldbud
@coldbud 2 ай бұрын
Yep
@joels5150
@joels5150 Ай бұрын
“But you HAVE to BEEEEE-LEEEEIVE MEEEEEE!!!” 😂
@ARoll925
@ARoll925 4 ай бұрын
After listening to this call, the most offensive thing for me is that Eddie is calling himself rational, he very clearly is not
@DJMarcO138
@DJMarcO138 4 ай бұрын
You can practically hear him stomping his widdle feet and pouting xD
@GoodBrotherGrimm
@GoodBrotherGrimm 4 ай бұрын
That and using a poor woman's suicide to push his nonsense.
@Acteaon
@Acteaon 4 ай бұрын
My biggest headache 🤕 was that too!
@FakingANerve
@FakingANerve 3 ай бұрын
​@@GoodBrotherGrimm Yeah, that was pretty disgusting. Sorry you lost your friend, bud, but don't try to cash that in to "explain" your "rational" positions. Jesus fucking Christ...
@quotedotes
@quotedotes 3 ай бұрын
You don't know the cooooooonteeeeeeeeeeext! I feel it's true therefore it is! I'm a skeptical person that believes things without evidence!
@calebgray1733
@calebgray1733 4 ай бұрын
When I was in the military, I had been up for 3 days straight with minimal food and water. I remember having a full on conversation with my grandfather during that time. My grandfather died when I was 12 and he wouldn't have been in the field with me anyways if he was still alive. The human mind under great stress is very fragile. Having memories of talking to my grandfather doesn't prove ghosts and it definitely doesn't prove a god.
@ryvercardn3387
@ryvercardn3387 4 ай бұрын
I was at the tail-end of a 72 hour shift, and my partner and I were arguing about seeing a yeti (it was a tree), and my "logical reasoning" at the time for why it couldn't be a yeti was because "they're not indigenous to this area!!" Sleep deprivation does some monumental weird things to our thought processes.
@kasocool2812
@kasocool2812 3 ай бұрын
​@@ryvercardn3387"clearly this is Bigfoot territory"
@amandarhodes4072
@amandarhodes4072 3 ай бұрын
Add to this that in ancient times people regularly use to burn hemp wood in fires as it one of the few bushes that grew in such a harsh climate. One of the side effects of the smoke produced by burning the roots of Hemp is it's hallucinogenic. So when mosses came upon a burning bush in the desert and heard voices talk to him of cause he would think it was god.
@paulmcdonald9257
@paulmcdonald9257 3 ай бұрын
I have had a similar experience. Lack of sleep and high stress can cause your synapses to misfire. I had a conversation with my Dad in which we discussed the manner of his Death. I remember every word of it but am in no doubt that it never actually happened.
@kasocool2812
@kasocool2812 3 ай бұрын
@@paulmcdonald9257 during exams in highschool. Stress and anxiety and a bout of insomnia. Caused me to lose it a bit and I was 100% convinced that if the large moth on the outside of my window got to me I would die.
@Deconstruction_Zone
@Deconstruction_Zone 4 ай бұрын
The desperation of these callers to justify their fictional deity is embarrassing.
@normkeller2405
@normkeller2405 4 ай бұрын
I've often thought that more people are concerned about Jose, than about Jesus. At the start of every game, the whole crowd rises to their feet, and asks, "Jose can you see?". That's proof that Jose is real.
@Stevo_Drums
@Stevo_Drums 4 ай бұрын
…and exhausting
@TheZombieSaints
@TheZombieSaints 4 ай бұрын
Olympic grade mental-gymnastics
@AntitheistHuman
@AntitheistHuman 4 ай бұрын
I truly struggle to understand how are they considered to be "adults"
@Miraak1868
@Miraak1868 4 ай бұрын
And I would add, "their total fanatical lunacy"
@adrianvisentin534
@adrianvisentin534 4 ай бұрын
It's literally shocking how gullible and illogical people are
@warmstrong5612
@warmstrong5612 4 ай бұрын
Not really. Humanity can be pretty stupid.
@Ninthofnine1969
@Ninthofnine1969 3 ай бұрын
Ummmm have anyone noticed it's mostly(only) Americans who are this gullible... So indoctrinated into belief from authority it's scary.
@daydays12
@daydays12 3 ай бұрын
It is really appalling I agree.
@TO-xn3gu
@TO-xn3gu 2 ай бұрын
​@warmstrong5612 try living in the south...most ppl here are hard-core into theism
@PickingVegasandBeyond
@PickingVegasandBeyond 29 күн бұрын
@@TO-xn3guI was born in the south and I was indoctrinated into the church because my grandfather was a pastor back then. Once I was able to understand that it was all nonsense I left the south because I wasn’t going to be forced into being in church leadership when I don’t believe any of the nonsense.
@Ironraven001
@Ironraven001 4 ай бұрын
Eddie doesn’t need god, he needs therapy. Seeing a friend kill themselves would totally cause trauma. I hope he got the medical help he needs.
@EleanorofAquitaine42
@EleanorofAquitaine42 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Poor Eddie sounds like he’s trying to make meaning out of a terrifying and traumatic event in his life. PTSD can cause your mind to do crazy things. Also, has anyone checked on the wiring, rodent situation and carbon monoxide emissions of the place he was living?
@oggyoggy1299
@oggyoggy1299 3 ай бұрын
He saw it?
@daydays12
@daydays12 3 ай бұрын
I agree. He is disturbed and confused.
@porkyboy4226
@porkyboy4226 Ай бұрын
Why didn't he try to stop her?
@LovelyIslandVacation-ch6wo
@LovelyIslandVacation-ch6wo Ай бұрын
@@porkyboy4226what makes you think he didn’t?
@thetherapist53
@thetherapist53 4 ай бұрын
"I'm a rational person..." ad nauseam. Methinks the gullible doth protest too much.
@IRGeamer
@IRGeamer 4 ай бұрын
"It depends...", "It depends...", "It depends..." Yes Eddy, we get it. It depends on how wilfully ignorant of logical reasoning and verifiable reality you are.
@josephbelisle5792
@josephbelisle5792 4 ай бұрын
You hear this by people who really are not what they claim to be. 'To tell you the truth'. 'Let me be honest with you'. Makes you doubt they are truthful and honest.
@Ironraven001
@Ironraven001 4 ай бұрын
I'm a rational person... who doesn't understand what RATIONAL means. Sheesh.
@danielrussell9416
@danielrussell9416 4 ай бұрын
If Jesus existed, no one who met him wrote about him and anyone who wrote about him never met him.
@gordonlynn8300
@gordonlynn8300 4 ай бұрын
And he didn't write anything , probably because he was illiterate like almost everyone else then .
@Specialeffecks
@Specialeffecks 4 ай бұрын
Add "and they all lived in a primitive and superstitious culture at a time with no easy fact-checking." (If fact-checking would even occur to those motivated to get converts).
@slackerman9758
@slackerman9758 4 ай бұрын
And Nazareth wasn’t occupied when he was to have been born.
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
What a foolish thing to say
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
@@kennethgee2004 Shine Brother !
@nameofthegame9664
@nameofthegame9664 3 ай бұрын
“I have a rational mind” *lightbulb explodes* “Jesus MUST be God”
@Matt13556
@Matt13556 Ай бұрын
Defo one of the most wackjob reasons I’ve heard so far for believing in god 🤣
@hakonberg8003
@hakonberg8003 10 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@WonkyDonkey3000
@WonkyDonkey3000 4 ай бұрын
"He didn't say 'Jesus'. He said, 'Hey, Zeus!' My name is Zeus."
@DragonHeart-cm1tx
@DragonHeart-cm1tx 4 ай бұрын
"As in father of Apollo! Mount Olympus! Don't f**k with me or I'll shove a lightning bolt up your a**! ZEUS! You got a problem with that!?"
@Sundae_Times
@Sundae_Times 4 ай бұрын
@@DragonHeart-cm1tx No, as in 'Die Hard with a Vengeance' :)
@garybaltiejus7248
@garybaltiejus7248 4 ай бұрын
Like the die hard reference
@benjaminmadrigalperez9010
@benjaminmadrigalperez9010 4 ай бұрын
That actually happened on greece with. Pan
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
why do the Heathen Rage ?
@thedave1771
@thedave1771 4 ай бұрын
“We could mention her name around other lightbulbs” 😅😅😅 I love it.
@kellyrestiaux9846
@kellyrestiaux9846 2 ай бұрын
G.E. and Sylvania hope for the same outcome each time.
@robertschriek1353
@robertschriek1353 4 ай бұрын
It really is amazing how far the theists have been forced to retreat in their desperation to justify their delusions
@chetsavage2536
@chetsavage2536 3 ай бұрын
Not far enough, sadly.
@Fufiloofa
@Fufiloofa 4 ай бұрын
"These ppl who question the validity of legends and hearsay are unreasonable, but me who believes in "ghosts" without any actual theory for why and how is totally reasonable" Eddy 2017-1-22
@Alltime2050
@Alltime2050 4 ай бұрын
Even if Paul met the brother it doesn't do anything to prove that the magical Jesus myth is true.
@josephbelisle5792
@josephbelisle5792 4 ай бұрын
Whose brother. Billions of Christians believe Jesus was an only child and Mary is still a virgin. The varieties of the myths go on and on. One group claiming in one version is hardly truth. Giving it any credence is more than it deserves.
@davidszeremi1786
@davidszeremi1786 4 ай бұрын
Jesus can be a first century magician and it proves nothing of his divinity.... Assuming he isn't a collection of other people
@davidszeremi1786
@davidszeremi1786 4 ай бұрын
​@@josephbelisle5792he had family, he father might have had other wives or she had more children. Perpetual virginity is a religious doctrine but it might not be accurate. I heard of "The church of James the Just brother of Jesus" and that Paul fought with his movement and made sure it failed.
@Alltime2050
@Alltime2050 4 ай бұрын
@@davidszeremi1786 Exactly.
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 4 ай бұрын
@@josephbelisle5792 Jesus had a brother. Mary was a virgin, she was just terrible at it.
@iatebambismom
@iatebambismom 3 ай бұрын
"The plural of anecdote is not data". I'm keeping that.
@hex6ng
@hex6ng 4 ай бұрын
It is difficult trying to explain scientific concepts to a person who has been conditioned to reject science.
@AcidGubba
@AcidGubba 4 ай бұрын
But he is open minded and thinks he thinks rationally.
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
I love science , bring it on !
@zombine555
@zombine555 4 ай бұрын
​@@jwsanders1214alright. Explain the scientific theory of evolution, a couplw of the mechanism therein, and the lines of evidence we have to confirm the theory as the single best supported idea in science.
@PrivateSi
@PrivateSi 3 ай бұрын
Science was supposed to be conditioned to reject Science but it got liberally spoilt rotten and turned to stupidly inclusive mush and vanity science hyper-wastage!
@opinion3742
@opinion3742 3 ай бұрын
One can treat science like some infallible god too. Most of know shit about really, we rely on what others tell us. And most of us don't have an overall very good understanding of what science really is, what it can and what it can't tell us about life.
@michaelbell3181
@michaelbell3181 4 ай бұрын
Most atheists don't seem to care if there's a historical Jesus or not for it doesn't affect a god aspect. As for me, there's not enough data to actually prove a historical Jesus.
@vitast2000
@vitast2000 4 ай бұрын
Much less the dude walked on water, and was able to heal blindness with magic spit.
@Sundae_Times
@Sundae_Times 4 ай бұрын
@@vitast2000 Oh no, don't tell me he didn't turn water into wine either! I was hoping to hire him for my wedding.
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
So what do you have , a historical bang ? I choose Jesus
@Gerryjournal
@Gerryjournal 4 ай бұрын
​@@jwsanders1214c'mon, it's the 21st century
@michaelbell3181
@michaelbell3181 4 ай бұрын
@@jwsanders1214 Like choosing the Easter Bunny, I get it. I was once a devout Christian. I studied in an attempt to become clergy in 2 of the 44,000 (and why does that number never shock anyone) denominations of Christianity. I not only read it but studied it! Let me be explicitly clear, both times my brain checked in before Seminary!
@SecondaryHomunculus
@SecondaryHomunculus 4 ай бұрын
Finding a rabbi by that name in the Middle East 2000 years ago would be like finding a dude named Steve Johnson in the US today. Who gives a shit? Are you gonna worship Steve if I write a shitty fanfic about him?
@thomaswigfield7623
@thomaswigfield7623 4 ай бұрын
Possibly, depends how convincing it is. (Only kidding, no).
@phillysupra
@phillysupra 4 ай бұрын
Steve Johnson of Springfield. (there's a Springfield in every state) 🤣
@taylorlibby7642
@taylorlibby7642 4 ай бұрын
Depends. What cool stuff does Steve do in your shitty fanfic? If he can change water into IPA for my cousins wedding we might have something to build on.😂🤣
@delbomb3131
@delbomb3131 4 ай бұрын
I know literally 3 steve johnson's and i live in a city of 4k people in Wisconsin lol
@queuecee
@queuecee 4 ай бұрын
@@delbomb3131 Stoughton?
@Sundae_Times
@Sundae_Times 4 ай бұрын
"Immoral is literally the same thing as unlawful. You should know this already, why are you trying so hard to embarrass yourself?" Oh the irony of being called ignorant by someone who thinks that 'immoral' and 'illegal' are the same thing 🤣
@shrews12001
@shrews12001 4 ай бұрын
Unlawful is cheating on your taxes Immoral is cheating at tic-tac-toe
@jamesparson
@jamesparson 4 ай бұрын
Mayonnaise on a hotdog is immoral.
@simonkoster
@simonkoster 4 ай бұрын
I recently came across the term "Argnorant" as portmanteau of Arrogant and Ignorant. I may start using it.
@anthonycraig274
@anthonycraig274 4 ай бұрын
Until 3 weeks ago, I thought he was a historical figure until I was looking for evidence that Jesus was woke, only to find there isn’t any valid evidence that Jesus existed. Now, I don’t believe a historical Jesus was a real person.
@geoffallshorn5167
@geoffallshorn5167 4 ай бұрын
I came to that conclusion after reading about the Raglan/Rank mythotype that implicitly includes Hercules, Moses, Jesus, Robin Hood, King Arthur, Luke Skywalker and Harry Potter.
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 4 ай бұрын
Why were you looking for evidence of Jesus being woke?
@classybree2241
@classybree2241 3 ай бұрын
He was not a real person he was created to deceive people
@anthonycraig274
@anthonycraig274 3 ай бұрын
@@einienj3281 You read that the world’s most famous historical person ever may have never existed due to the sheer lack of evidence and your take is “why are you looking for evidence Jesus was woke” absolutely baffles me.
@anthonycraig274
@anthonycraig274 3 ай бұрын
@@geoffallshorn5167 I first found David Fitzgerald on this channel and read his book *Nailed*. Although it was the smoking gun, it wasn't the evidence that convinced me. I then stumbled onto Richard Carrier's peer reviewed work, *On the Historicity of Jesus* which gave a full synopsis on how Jesus was invented, why he was invented, the mathematical probability and possibility, and went through all the so-called evidence of Jesus and against, great work.
@snowflakemelter1172
@snowflakemelter1172 4 ай бұрын
Its hard to imagine a God that would engineer the most important event in human history but never bother to engineer anyone to record it, human nature was well established at that point so he must have known no one with a rational mind that he gave them would beleive this.
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 4 ай бұрын
Yeah... the tribal war g0d was not only an evil immoral ratbag, he was totally incompetent despite being all knowing and all powerful.
@pointbreak8646
@pointbreak8646 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree, how it is not a problem to Christians that they have no idea what Jesus looks like either. He could come to any Christian in the street, ask them for directions and they wouldn't have a clue it's Jesus, the bloke they worship, believe they have a personal relationship with and know so well.. it's beyond hilarious!
@Specialeffecks
@Specialeffecks 4 ай бұрын
Because I had an experience I can't explain, I will vote for legislation to force others to: Speak in Togues, Genuflect, Wear Beanie Caps without the Propeller, Align Chakras, Bow to the East 7 X Per Day, Hold E-Meter Cans, Wear Magic Underwear, etc...
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 4 ай бұрын
don't forget the prohibitive stuff. no bacon, no birth control etc.
@Specialeffecks
@Specialeffecks 3 ай бұрын
@holgerlubotzki3469 No rights for others for things I don't like and that I believe others should not have the right that also don't affect my life in any way (other than to thwart my desire to impose my will upon others, that I have personally determined also aligns exactly with my god's will).
@benjamindover5676
@benjamindover5676 3 ай бұрын
searched "CNN reporter attacked by ghost" And the lead story was. "Reporter unfazed by haunted house"
@VitoDRF
@VitoDRF 3 ай бұрын
Any time someone starts a statement with "I consider myself very reasonable" you can bet they're about to show just how unreasonable a person they really are.
@briarrose6442
@briarrose6442 3 ай бұрын
if I was talking about a deceased friend and lightbulbs blew out, pictures fell off the wall, and my dog wouldn't step paw into the room, I'd absolutely assume ghosts before god
@Mkeusquealbby
@Mkeusquealbby 4 ай бұрын
I'd say Jesus as described in the bible is mythical, whether an actual man existed in the middle eastern desert 2000 years ago or not.
@shrews12001
@shrews12001 4 ай бұрын
Given how removed from the time the actual writing was I would at best accept that the character of Jesus was based on an amalgam of people that were told to have existed. The supernatural being pure fantasy.
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
goo to you by way of the zoo
@tekbarrier
@tekbarrier 4 ай бұрын
@@jwsanders1214 i'm sorry you don't understand science
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 4 ай бұрын
Jesus seems to be a composite character. In a similar way that King Arthur or Ois’in is. Different stories can get attached to pre-existing characters that the audience is familiar with. A great example of the classical story of Perseus and the Minotaur which was reborn in the renaissance and hit England … but nobody there knew who Perseus was or what a Minotaur looked like. So, Perseus became Saint George and the Minotaur became a dragon. Pre-existing characters that an audience can relate to attract popular stories.
@simonpeyton-n3h
@simonpeyton-n3h 3 ай бұрын
@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 yes its all just based on archetypes,there is only so many archetypes to include and write a story about,the hero,the underdog,the lover etc etc thats why most poems books tv programmes and movies all have a similar recognisable structure but just with different characters and dialogue,its the reason when u start watching a film u can kind of predict the path its gonna take and ultimately the ending with obviously a few exceptions with good twists etc and its the ones that manage to be a bit different that seem to do well cos they seem abit original,i think game of thrones did well originally because although many archetypal storylines and characters existed but the so called hero types were killed off shockingly early at times which kind of bucked the trend of the likes of lord of the rings which although there seemed to be alot of jeapardy and close calls none of the 15 or so good guys actually died by the end of the films and it followed the good v evil ,light v darkness archetype from start to finish
@kimberlybaldridge5767
@kimberlybaldridge5767 3 ай бұрын
My beloved kitty passed away a week ago and I kept seeing his face in the shadows and him walking around out of the corner of my eye. It was my brain starting to adjust to him being gone until I could accept it + then "seeing him" stopped. (Love you, Hoover!)
@CatCaretakerID
@CatCaretakerID Ай бұрын
My condolences. It is so difficult to lose a beloved pet.
@alanevery215
@alanevery215 2 күн бұрын
Ahhh!
@RudeCalling
@RudeCalling 4 ай бұрын
"When I was sitting on your side of the table" by this statement alone he has admitted as an atheist he would have been skeptical of unexplained things and now that he is a theist he goes with whatever feels or sounds best.. this is a direct example that believing in religion makes you illogical and guilable
@Enigmatic2099
@Enigmatic2099 2 ай бұрын
Claims to be rational and then proceeds to be 100% irrational😂
@mark2king
@mark2king 3 ай бұрын
I really like Traci's analogy: "zero plus zero plus zero (etc) will never equal one".
@david-pb4bi
@david-pb4bi 3 ай бұрын
Ye, that was brilliant, she is always good value.
@charleshinkley6
@charleshinkley6 3 ай бұрын
Paul didn’t say he met Jesus’s brother. He said he met “a Brother of Christ”, which meant someone who had been baptised.
@TrumanSparx
@TrumanSparx 4 ай бұрын
I've heard so many of these campfire stories over the years. Some people want to swallow the supernatural because reality is not enough for them.
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 4 ай бұрын
Eddy seems like a guy who would see that as a connection to justify thinking a campfire is causing the feeling of being creeped out.
@anderslarsson7426
@anderslarsson7426 2 ай бұрын
Still, the story of one cell evolving to a creature asking about his origine seems kind of supernatural in itself. It should really satisfy those mind craving for the supernatural. It has always puzzled why it doesn’t.
@solly119119
@solly119119 4 ай бұрын
This caller is why I no longer have any patience for theist's "personal experience". It literally is just a "because I say so" argument.
@timg7627
@timg7627 4 ай бұрын
I agree. They’re all the same. “Trust me bro, stuff happened to me” -every theist from every religion 🙄🤦
@joecoolioness6399
@joecoolioness6399 3 ай бұрын
I ask them if they believe that prayer works, and most say yes. So I say then pray that your god give me my personal experience so I can join them in heaven when I die. So far, it has not happened.
@ReasonBeing25
@ReasonBeing25 4 ай бұрын
Eddie... Eddie...Eddie, cmon now
@phillysupra
@phillysupra 4 ай бұрын
The dude thought a halogen bulb blowing out was god.... He's mentally not capable. Period.
@Tuna_Man2323
@Tuna_Man2323 4 ай бұрын
Eddie's in the space time continuum.
@markireland1162
@markireland1162 4 ай бұрын
one should not be so open minded that ones brains fall out......
@jaycol21
@jaycol21 2 ай бұрын
They didn’t just fall out. They didn’t just fall out. They *exploded* all over the room. Something, something Higgs boson. Therefore god.
@apple1662
@apple1662 4 ай бұрын
I have watched this many, many times...and Eddy just doesn't get that a) he makes zero effort to try to find out WHY things happen, b) blindly accepts that things happen & c) he should be heavily fined for daring to call himself RATIONAL!
@AcidGubba
@AcidGubba 4 ай бұрын
So I think there's a good chance that the caller could become an atheist. For many believers, it's completely unrealistic that they would even question their faith; for them, it's absolute and doubt isn't allowed. Okay, I take it back, the guy is not particularly intelligent. But who knows, maybe he will accidentally broaden his horizons.
@jeffparent2159
@jeffparent2159 4 ай бұрын
So you have Paul, killing off Christians and then suddenly he becomes THE head of the church having specifically state he had never met the figurehead of the religion outside of dreams and visions. And he gets all the benefits of being the head of the church by continuing to state that he talked to people who knew Jesus. We have no reason to listen to Paul as he gains the same head of church status had he just made up all these claims and never talked to anyone.
@stephenolan5539
@stephenolan5539 4 ай бұрын
Imagine if the FBI agent in charge of watching Scientology had a seizure and thought that L Ron Hubbard was God. I think that would parallel Paul.
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 4 ай бұрын
Paul was a boss. He made the entire Christian population his b!tch. He saw an opportunity and grabbed it with both hands. You’ve got to give the guy a bit of credit for that.
@AussieNaturalist
@AussieNaturalist 4 ай бұрын
"Im a rational person, I had experiences that I cant explain = theism" - That comment right there IS in fact irrational.
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 4 ай бұрын
Exactly. There's that "I was an atheist" again..no. He had a traumatic experience then connected a random lightbulb exploding to there being a god. Then he claims to be a rational person.....
@aemiliadelroba4022
@aemiliadelroba4022 3 ай бұрын
It simply means the person does not know what happened . There are lots of things we don’t know. That is not irrational!😮
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 3 ай бұрын
@@aemiliadelroba4022 It's his reasoning that makes him irrational. 1. Traumatic experience. 2. Talking about this experience. 3. Lightbulb breaks. 4. Supernatural. 5. God exists because 2, 3 and 4.
@AussieNaturalist
@AussieNaturalist 3 ай бұрын
@@aemiliadelroba4022 You totally missed the problem, which is that he he said that he had experiences that he coulnt explain which led him to believe that there must be a "God", which, as I pointed out, IS irrational. The ONLY rational thing to say when you DONT KNOW what happened, is, I dont know, not.... It must have been a "God".
@GoriusMaximus
@GoriusMaximus 4 ай бұрын
If the woman died doesn’t Christian doctrine say that she either went to heaven or hell? Wouldn’t his belief that she is a ghost haunting him prove that something other than Christianity is in play?
@davidszeremi1786
@davidszeremi1786 4 ай бұрын
They could reason that a ghost hasn't gone to their reward? Ghost games and movies tend to embrace the idea they will move on the light or darkness. Frankly I find the zombie apocalypse in the new testament more funny.
@GoriusMaximus
@GoriusMaximus 3 ай бұрын
@@davidszeremi1786 According to the bible there is an unseen spirit realm but it’s populated by angels and fallen angels (demons). I’ve never seen a passage that implies there are the ghosts of humans wandering the earth to blow up light bulbs or knock down paintings.
@MrMattSax
@MrMattSax 4 ай бұрын
Ghosts. Therefore Jesus did magic. Okaaaaaaaay
@magoo1950
@magoo1950 4 ай бұрын
That's the issue with so many theist arguments. Let's say he is right and the ghost of a person who committed suicide was causing these supernatural events. How does that therefore prove Jesus? Maybe Zeus is the cause. Maybe Allah. Maybe an unknown force that has never revealed themselves in human history.
@Sundae_Times
@Sundae_Times 4 ай бұрын
Well done to user Sir Barry V8 for spotting Floridunce's howler in saying that Jesus was buried, when in fact he was just placed in a tomb! How embarrassing for Flo to not know such a basic 'fact' about his own saviour. He should read his Bible more 🤣
@Soylent1981
@Soylent1981 4 ай бұрын
I am always cautious about skeptics who quickly abandon their skepticism because they lack the creativity to think about other possibilities. It makes skepticism seem like a feeble position waiting for an unexplained experience rather than a position that aims to support things we think we know.
@Sundae_Times
@Sundae_Times 4 ай бұрын
I don't believe you. Actually, yes I do.
@ARoll925
@ARoll925 4 ай бұрын
That's not a skeptic
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 4 ай бұрын
Why would a skeptic require creativity? It’s a method for assessing the truth of claims, not making sh!t up. You have no idea what you are talking about.
@Soylent1981
@Soylent1981 3 ай бұрын
@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 I would say an integral part of skepticism is the ability to doubt what you think you know. A method of doubting is to be able to think of plausible alternatives to the assumed knowledge. Indeed, one of the most famous instances of skepticism, Renée Descartes, conceived of an evil demon to aid in his doubt. A person who cannot imagine an alternative is more likely to hold their belief as true since they are unable to see how the evidence points to another possibility. Your comment is almost meaningless because you give no indication of the mechanism that skepticism uses as a means to assess the truth. The scientific method is built on creativity; creativity to propose a hypothesis worthy of testing and a creative methodology to conduct the experiments. Creativity is an important element of skepticism.
@leongkhengneoh6581
@leongkhengneoh6581 4 ай бұрын
abraham lincoln was a vampire hunter. There is a movie on it so it must be true
@bestbehave
@bestbehave 4 ай бұрын
Well I’ve certainly got no other explanation
@AXKfUN9m
@AXKfUN9m 4 ай бұрын
I thought he was the King of Mars?
@stephenolan5539
@stephenolan5539 4 ай бұрын
​@@AXKfUN9m The candy company?
@AXKfUN9m
@AXKfUN9m 4 ай бұрын
@@stephenolan5539 No, the red planet.
@nealjroberts4050
@nealjroberts4050 4 ай бұрын
Another throwback: I used to be surprised that so many of my fellow theists kept getting atheism wrong. Initially I blamed it on the so called New Atheism which essentially was a deliberately provocative form of antitheism. However, the continuation of the wrong definitions and inferences being propounded despite education by atheists and by theists like myself leads to the conclusion that it's deliberate ignorance. The reasons for that avoidance of truth seem to come down to two basic ones: fear and/or hatred. Fear of being wrong, fear of losing community, fear of losing purpose, etc Hatred of what's different, hatred that others can live with different purposes and beliefs, etc etc. It comes as no surprise that these sorts of people also are the most intolerant in society, the most misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic/racist/"othertheismphobic"/etc. I pity them.
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 4 ай бұрын
I think a lot of it comes down to the need to reinforce the ingroups position.
@mavrosyvannah
@mavrosyvannah 2 ай бұрын
Note to self: use the exploding lightblub trick after I die, to mess with the heads of the living, just for shits and giggles.
@stevecole3917
@stevecole3917 4 ай бұрын
I think it's likely that a charismatic preacher fell afoul of the government and was crucified during that time. Probably several.
@BlackDeath920
@BlackDeath920 3 ай бұрын
Definitely several
@ryandegrave8978
@ryandegrave8978 2 ай бұрын
​@@BlackDeath920 Definitely? Based on what?
@Vincent-fo7xp
@Vincent-fo7xp 3 ай бұрын
"Did you try mentioning her name around other light bulbs?" 😅😅😅
@Specialeffecks
@Specialeffecks 4 ай бұрын
My Niece did the same thing when her father (my brother) died. She went up to Alaska and saw an eagle. For the next couple of years, she kept on noticing 'eagles', whether it was on a billboard, in a song, on a can of Tecate, she started seeing many eagles and somehow associated it with her dad. I asked if there was anything significant that was shared between them about eagles before his death, and she said no. She reported that it stopped after a couple of years.
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 4 ай бұрын
Traumatic experiences can cause the mind to make up weird connections. When my husband died, I had all sorts of meltdowns of ration. Like: "if I only had done this or that, then this would not have happened"..like I could somehow erase time and everything would be ok. The outcome would not change, bc I can't go back in time, obviously. Grief is such a powerful shock to the system, that you literally try to grasp straws to stay afloat..
@GoriusMaximus
@GoriusMaximus 3 ай бұрын
@@Specialeffecks when I started working for the ambulance service I started noticing ambulances everywhere.
@marymegrant9438
@marymegrant9438 22 күн бұрын
​@@GoriusMaximusI had a similar experience when I took a SCUBA class. My explanation is that I previously had no reason to take notice of references to SCUBA.
@queuecee
@queuecee 4 ай бұрын
The idiocy of a troll reposting the same tired arguments over and over has no bottom.
@rbwinn3
@rbwinn3 4 ай бұрын
I repost the same correct equations for relativity over and over again. So far no one has offered to discuss them.
@queuecee
@queuecee 4 ай бұрын
@@rbwinn3 I LITERALLY offered you to come on my live stream and discuss it. AND SO many people have responded to your idiotic comment that all of physicists are wrong and you are right because you understand junior high algebra and don't seem to think that physicists, even Lorentz, doesn't understand junior high algebra.
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 4 ай бұрын
​@@queueceewhat could physicists with PHD's know compered to a LSD with high-school algebra? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nealjroberts4050
@nealjroberts4050 4 ай бұрын
​@@rbwinn3😆😂🤣
@Seticzech
@Seticzech 4 ай бұрын
@@rbwinn3 "no one has offered to discuss them" Discussing nonsense is nonsensical.
@dustinmorton942
@dustinmorton942 4 ай бұрын
I simply do not believe him when he talks about his supernatural stories. There is no mechanism for lightbulbs to explode. This isn’t a movie.
@bestbehave
@bestbehave 4 ай бұрын
That just proves it. 😂
@joelonsdale
@joelonsdale 3 ай бұрын
Splash of water can do it. Happened to me.
@operating
@operating 3 ай бұрын
Overcoming brain washed reasoning is soooo hard.
@thedeerhunter999
@thedeerhunter999 3 ай бұрын
With out a doubt…very, very difficult
@Gerryjournal
@Gerryjournal 4 ай бұрын
If you see a guy in a public street verbally abusing a fruit tree, do you cross the street or say, wow look, the son of god?
@bestbehave
@bestbehave 4 ай бұрын
What other possible explanation is there?
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 4 ай бұрын
Was it a fig tree? Fig trees are tw@ts.
@Fufiloofa
@Fufiloofa 4 ай бұрын
every single thing Paul ever wrote about Jesus was at best hearsay, at best, think about that
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
You don't have a clue
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
@@kennethgee2004 Sorry my friend you are 100 percent correct I humbly ask you let me out of this , you are right , I am wrong I miss read what you said
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
@@kennethgee2004 Keep Being Salt and Light we all need to hear it
@Fufiloofa
@Fufiloofa 4 ай бұрын
@@kennethgee2004 so you don't understand what hearsay means?
@tekbarrier
@tekbarrier 4 ай бұрын
@@kennethgee2004 nothing that Paul said about Jesus was based on him personally knowing Jesus, which means it is all hearsay. Even if you claim that he talked to other people who knew him that still makes it hearsay.
@vernonlomax1721
@vernonlomax1721 4 ай бұрын
Self delusion is very real. My family can attest that I have believed I was a werewolf since age 5. It took me another 63 years to learn that I have a very rare psychological condition called Lycanthropy Personality Disorder. This makes more logical sense than me being a supernatural creature who has never shown the ability to transform. I even gave up my religious beliefs more than 35 years ago.
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 4 ай бұрын
What happens at full moon?
@vernonlomax1721
@vernonlomax1721 4 ай бұрын
@@robinharwood5044 haha! The full moon didn’t affect me. You wouldn’t believe the complex story I weaved to justify my belief. Try cross dimensional symbiosis with a lycanthropy species. Obviously, I have an overactive imagination.
@SeattleDinghyer
@SeattleDinghyer 4 ай бұрын
Puberty must have been tough... i saw your documentary about high school: Teen Wolf.
@artemisnite
@artemisnite 3 ай бұрын
Idc if some dude named Yeshua existed or not. The guy walking on water, multiplying fish and resurrecting from the dead ABSOLUTELY DID NOT EXIST.
@beerman1957
@beerman1957 4 ай бұрын
The story of Jesus has parallel stories with Buddha, Krishna and several Greek and Roman Gods. Several other ancient myths also persist in the story.
@shrews12001
@shrews12001 4 ай бұрын
Both testaments are almost entirely lifted from previous myths and legends, some with slight changes and others near word for word with new names. The Bible is a Readers Digest of religious horse hockey
@dangerdest3606
@dangerdest3606 3 ай бұрын
I've been having a shit few weeks. Hearing this guy make his "arguments" and "challenges" and just run himself in circles has made me belly laugh so much. Needed this.
@arnoldfossman1701
@arnoldfossman1701 4 ай бұрын
The caller says he has an open mind, I wonder though if it might be open at both ends.
@gordonlynn8300
@gordonlynn8300 4 ай бұрын
I think his brain fell out .
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 4 ай бұрын
Empty between the ears
@kendrickjahn1261
@kendrickjahn1261 3 ай бұрын
"I'm a rational person." But then carries on with irrational conclusions.
@Specialeffecks
@Specialeffecks 4 ай бұрын
I had an experience I can't explain, so my explanation is Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Scientology, aliens/UFOs, Big Foot, etc...
@philwithnotes
@philwithnotes 7 күн бұрын
“The plural of anecdote isn’t data.” Brilliant!
@headkraber
@headkraber 4 ай бұрын
The lightbulb guy! I remember him 😂
@philipinchina
@philipinchina 4 ай бұрын
Paul the apostle, had an epistle That was so long it made all the girls whistle.
@Sundae_Times
@Sundae_Times 4 ай бұрын
...And when he got it out On a staff day out It resulted in instant dismissal.
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 4 ай бұрын
And he went to launch his missile but the ladies all did bristle and they beat him off with a thistle.
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536
@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 4 ай бұрын
@@holgerlubotzki3469 Beat him off with a thistle? Paul was a freak but was he that freaky?
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 4 ай бұрын
@@twowardrobeswardrobes1536 He never used a feather! He always used a hole (sic) chicken
@lanaipad6095
@lanaipad6095 2 ай бұрын
This was so healing to watch. I am a person who grew up in a cult and since I left, I thought I’d broken free but alas, I haven’t. Finding this video just helped me create another point to add to my critical thinking, thank you. The only thing I would improve is to avoid laughing at the other person, they become defensive; use the logic, it works. Thanks again, this debate is great 😊
@philojudaeusofalexandria9556
@philojudaeusofalexandria9556 4 ай бұрын
But... His story IS a myth - even by the Christian view of him. myth (noun) "a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of a people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events."
@RandyWanat
@RandyWanat 3 ай бұрын
"I'm a rational person." -Every irrational person
@einienj3281
@einienj3281 4 ай бұрын
"I was an atheist"..no. He had a traumatic experience then connected a random lightbulb exploding to there being a god. Then he claims to be a rational person.....
@Ole_CornPop
@Ole_CornPop 29 күн бұрын
"Are you saying there aren't people that are rational who work for CNN." ~ Well Actually 🤣
@zolaarczakle
@zolaarczakle 4 ай бұрын
My favorite pair!
@tedgrant2
@tedgrant2 3 ай бұрын
We have letters written by Sherlock Holmes. He mentioned Doctor Watson in two letters. Proof that Doctor Watson existed.
@shrews12001
@shrews12001 4 ай бұрын
Yep.
@forcedtohaveahandle
@forcedtohaveahandle 3 ай бұрын
"I used to be an atheist" = I just wasn't very religious / didn't go to church lol
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 4 ай бұрын
I think he was a real dude. That doesn't make anything in the bible true
@phillysupra
@phillysupra 4 ай бұрын
Jesus was a common name just like the other "apostle" names were. So yeah there was a guy named Jesus
@queuecee
@queuecee 4 ай бұрын
@@phillysupra Hey, pssst. You wanna get into heaven? Well, I know a guy.
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 4 ай бұрын
​@@queueceeCan he help me make $42,000 a week? Who is this amazing guy?
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 4 ай бұрын
​@@phillysupraI don't doubt there was some apocalyptic prophet named Jesus. What we see in the bible is an individual being divinified.
@phillysupra
@phillysupra 4 ай бұрын
@@queuecee sign me up! I now feel like donating 10% of my paycheck to this guy every check.
@justincredible.
@justincredible. 3 ай бұрын
"No amount of belief makes something a fact." - James Randi
@chadpatterson9796
@chadpatterson9796 4 ай бұрын
Eddy has no idea what he believes
@party4keeps28
@party4keeps28 4 ай бұрын
He just believes what he's been told to believe.
@pvoshefski
@pvoshefski 4 ай бұрын
The pretzel logic of theists is always amusing and very telling.
@haydenwalton2766
@haydenwalton2766 2 ай бұрын
he's definitely from barry town
@Mindfeels
@Mindfeels 2 ай бұрын
"Higgs bosons, what's next, leprechauns?" 😂😂😂
@ronwhitehouse23
@ronwhitehouse23 4 ай бұрын
I WAS an atheist, means I was NEVER an atheist.
@davidszeremi1786
@davidszeremi1786 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't a person go from not being convinced to being convinced that there is a God because they have poor critical thinking skills?
@SeattleDinghyer
@SeattleDinghyer 4 ай бұрын
​@@davidszeremi1786and the reverse. I was a Christian, and now I'm an atheist.
@davidszeremi1786
@davidszeremi1786 4 ай бұрын
@@SeattleDinghyer same. I learned too much about the Bible
@ronwhitehouse23
@ronwhitehouse23 4 ай бұрын
@@davidszeremi1786 Could it be they possibly have delusional tendencies.?
@RabenmundK
@RabenmundK 4 ай бұрын
​​@@davidszeremi1786 Yes, it happened to me. Grew up in a household of unbelievers and didnt put a lot of thought into my 'atheism'. During a rough time in my life i met christians who helped me out and their story - and my own experiences - were very convinving. So i converted and stayed a Christian for some years. But, since i also was a critical thinker - and someone who read thr bible - i found more and more inconsistencies. Pair that with me being a naturalistic guy, i "deconverted" back to Atheism which i am since then. But this time i had put some serious thinking into my position, unlike when i grew up. Edit: english is my 2nd language.. so i hope you can endure my grammar and possible wrong usage of words
@mikeythehat6693
@mikeythehat6693 4 ай бұрын
Try to count how many times that Eddy started his answer with "no...but", while he's trying to convince us of his open mindedness.
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley 4 ай бұрын
The Jewish preacher who was executed as a public nuisance and the miracle working godman who saved humanity are two different characters.
@jwsanders1214
@jwsanders1214 4 ай бұрын
You don't have a clue
@davidszeremi1786
@davidszeremi1786 4 ай бұрын
What are your sources?
@gerhardgiedrojc991
@gerhardgiedrojc991 3 ай бұрын
@@jwsanders1214How can you have a clue about something that does not exist. What a stupid question it is until the claim that a musical maker exists.
@quacks2much
@quacks2much 2 ай бұрын
My dog is insane. When I walk him, there are some streets that I must force him to walk with me down those roads and alleys. It is the same roads he is afraid of each time. He also seems to see non-existent somethings quite often.
@sgonzo5572
@sgonzo5572 Ай бұрын
This is the perfect example on how not having an explanation doesnt mean your dog didnt experience or sense something
@Ole_CornPop
@Ole_CornPop 29 күн бұрын
​@sgonzo5572 I had a reoccurring dream of falling for a few years and my best friend fell to his death off a building not to long after. In the end, that still doesn't say that I had a premonition of his death.
@sunsetman1479
@sunsetman1479 4 ай бұрын
Eddy sounds like a cherry picker. he should go to washington state and pick cherries and other fruits. If your god does things that dont make sense you have to accept he does not exist. The entire story of God and Jesus is so unreasonable it isnt funny.
@RAD-ju1ru
@RAD-ju1ru 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking about blueberries when a plane flew over my house. Now I realize blueberries are the reason aircraft can fly.
@Sundae_Times
@Sundae_Times 4 ай бұрын
Jesus the person may or may not have existed but if he did, he was just a person. Pity, as he could have made a fortune with all those -miracles- magic tricks. He wouldn't have stayed a humble carpenter for long 😅
@qwadratix
@qwadratix 4 ай бұрын
I suspect he did. The entry to Jerusalem reads like an account of a con-man trying to pass himself off as the Messiah that all ended badly for him. (The donkey and foal bit?, very suspect. And the reaction of the crowd who'd rather have Barabbas released than this guy. They were p*ssed.)
@nealjroberts4050
@nealjroberts4050 4 ай бұрын
​@@qwadratix Would explain why Nazareth is depicted as not believing anything about him. It being his hometown
@tekbarrier
@tekbarrier 4 ай бұрын
You can just hear his brain desperately trying to cling to his irrational belief at all costs
@thomaswigfield7623
@thomaswigfield7623 4 ай бұрын
I think that Jesus was mythical. Does anyone want to provide evidence to the contrary?
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 4 ай бұрын
The biblical Jesus or historical Jesus?
@thomaswigfield7623
@thomaswigfield7623 4 ай бұрын
@@vladtheemailer3223 Is there a difference?
@Sundae_Times
@Sundae_Times 4 ай бұрын
Well, a book said a thing - so there's that.
@phillysupra
@phillysupra 4 ай бұрын
​@@Sundae_Timesif a book said it, then it's GOT to be true 🤣🤣
@vladtheemailer3223
@vladtheemailer3223 4 ай бұрын
@thomaswigfield7623 The typical view among secular scholars is that Jesus was a historical figure. He was not the Messiah or the son of God. What you see in the NT is called "apotheosis." The apostles basically made up everything so that they could have the Messiah that they needed.
@CrawfishDeluxe
@CrawfishDeluxe 23 күн бұрын
"I'm a rational person" (X) - Doubt
@MrBozoOzo
@MrBozoOzo 3 ай бұрын
If a lightbulb explodes, will it cause someone to say her name?
@leoaguinaldo65
@leoaguinaldo65 27 күн бұрын
Even if Jesus exists, he sure is useless.
@captainhowdy2782
@captainhowdy2782 4 ай бұрын
My sister & brother-in-law claim to be former atheists because, during a rough spell in their lives, they briefly lost their faith. They didn't examine their former beliefs, or the Bible. They just temporarily lost faith during tough times. That's not how I became a non-believer. That's why I'm agnostic about these atheist to theist claims.
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 4 ай бұрын
Actually, now that I think about it, my power went out while I was on the phone with my boss yesterday, so obviously that's proof that the ghost of the still-living customer we were talking about got Jesus to trip my circuit breaker. QED.
@faisalwani4829
@faisalwani4829 3 ай бұрын
Eddy isn’t rational, he’s rationing weed
@fieryscorpion
@fieryscorpion Ай бұрын
Lmaoo 🤣🤣💀
@edmundquek3530
@edmundquek3530 3 ай бұрын
"When I read books on particle physics, even ontological argument, and John Lennox ......" The caller actually said three unrelated things in a sentence.
@dcs4947
@dcs4947 4 ай бұрын
Loved the "even if she was there in spirit how does that proves there's a god?".
@durrutti
@durrutti 2 ай бұрын
You know those ppl who say they saw Elvis last week. Does that mean they actually saw Elvis last week? You can’t just take ppl at face value, that’s stupid.
@stultusvenator3233
@stultusvenator3233 2 ай бұрын
If I was stuck in a room with Eddy, I would kill myself too.
@corringhamdepot4434
@corringhamdepot4434 3 ай бұрын
Many years ago 5 or 6 of us were sitting around in the office library telling each other ghost stories. We were interrupted by a large heavy ring binder on a far shelf, falling flat with a very loud "splat". One person was up and out of the door like a flash. Some of us just laughed. Never for a moment did I think that it was a "real" ghost. People just believe what they want to believe.
@cwillis92
@cwillis92 4 ай бұрын
Wow "if I don't have an explanation I must theorize" jaw dropped
@Gooberchen
@Gooberchen 3 ай бұрын
"I can't explain these things, so therefore I will create an explanation for them" is a sign of extremely poor epistemology.
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