Showdown: 2022 Piaggio BV 400 vs Suzuki Burgman 400

For this Showdown, we bring you something a little different. We're going to take you on a mini-tour of Los Angeles with the Piaggio BV 400 and Suzuki Burgman 400. Normally, getting around "Hell-A" would be a nightmare in a car, but with scooters - especially these scooters - it's not that bad at all. It's actually pretty fun! Come along and check out some cool spots with us. Along the way, you'll get to know the Piaggio and Suzuki a little better, too.
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[@liveinwonder7221]

Great episode…I have a Kymco AK550. I’ve had lots of bikes, but this is the most practical machine ever while also being a pile of fun. You only hate scooters if you’ve never had one!

[@noisepuppet]

Wish I had the $10k! I'd get one.

[@royromero8496]

So true!

[@kianabrash]

Got mine in May and I am OBSESSED. It's a luxury scooter , for SURE! 😏🛵😎💅🏾

[@roamereasy9737]

@@noisepuppet You can find an used scooters with low mileage at an affordable price.

[@davidphillips7255]

It's now a year later and I rode my Burgman 400 up the Cassiar (Hwy 37) to Yukon Territory from Vancouver BC. 8000 km and it was awesome.

[@LCQcrewD13]

Glad I could fast forward through your date to get any info on these scooters.

[@niclaslindstrom6164]

Great to have a scooter episode! I love bikes, but my Vespa GTS 300 is my favourite.

[@BlackMamba-lt8oe]

vespa is garbage

[@seanandersonbey3768]

Why.. genuine question..?

[@jeeves6490]

@@seanandersonbey3768 Dead easy to ride, easily manoeuvrable, comfortable and practical. Eat up the urban commute, happily sit on the speed limit for longer journeys, bodywork does a surprisingly good job of keeping you warm, dry and clean of road grime on the way to work. It's not the same as a motorcycle but not that different, a different flavour if you will. All most of us need, if ego isn't part of your motorcycle recipe, a well looked after scoot will keep the the commuting drudge miles off your big bore toy, maintaining resale and keeping your servicing bills down. Problem is its hard to walk past the scoot once you're an owner. Just plain fun mate, give it a go.

[@robertsalyers1351]

I've had my 2020 Suzuki Burgman 400 for about a year now and just put 600 miles on it so it's time for the first oil change. I Love Riding this Bike

[@davidmiller9852]

Guys the full face helmet fits in the Beverly too but you have to put it on the side. If you live in Ireland like I do believe me, both ABS and TC are a life saver. It’s not about the speed but about the road conditions. Sometimes you find yourself with the back wheel on wet manholes and the scooter is very snappy

[@eXpeDiEnt89]

John and Troy have been the best at these moto reviews for a few years now and they keep getting better. Great stuff!

[@mikemerrill175]

My motorcycles are fun but my scooter is a tool that I use daily here in SoCal.

[@dank9288639]

what kind of scoot do you have?

[@TheCdubbleyoo]

I'm here because I rode Burg 400 at a demo day, and it was one of my favorite bikes in the context of that fairly slow, surface-streer ride. I had nothing against scoots, I'd just never ridden one. It also has the best-feeling brakes of what I rode that day. That included the GSX-S1000 & S750. I'm going to try too get my hands on a Burgman 650 for a ride.

[@coberholtzer08]

I spent 25 years riding motorcycles, still do, and until on vacation about 10 years ago with a friend and his wife, who are both serious long distance Harley riders, never had I ridden one, rented one before - they had their own. We were in Key West and he told me it's the only way to get around in a congested area. I have owned a Honda PCX150 for 8 years now, absolutely love it. I've had zero mechanicals and avg 115mpg, which it isn't supposed to get (105 I think?). The CVT seems to reduce my riding concentration, and stress, by about 30%. I can focus more on the road, what's going on around me, the sites, and riding. I always always have a huge grin when I ride it and can absolutely rail through turns on it, and even ride on smooth dirt roads or across a field. My next one will be in the 300-400cc range, because I'd like the ability to go on the highway. For me, that'd be the perfect size. Great video! I like the Burgman, that's what I'm thinking about. Or a used Honda Forza.

[@robertsalyers1351]

Yes, try a Suzuki Burgman 400...you will love how comfortable it is lots of power too

[@robrenwick4591]

Consider the Piaggio BV400 too if you don't like the Jet Ski styling of the Burgman.

[@jcampbell2481]

I just bought a new 2019 Burgman 400. Its very high quality and great fun to drive. I've always had motorcycles, but now that I am a mature rider of 75, the scooter is just perfect for me. Its the best looking scooter that I have seen.

[@robrenwick4591]

Yup same here, but I bought a Piaggio BV400. My cruiser was just too much hassle in town (weight, heat, shifting gears all the time).

[@jamesgrantham3239]

Happy to see someone show some scooter love!

[@ErikMoody]

Makes me want to bring my Burgman 400 to LA and ride around. I may have to plan that - from Phoenix AZ to LA .

[@gigi9467]

Ahhh the burgman 400 one of my favorite motorcycles I have had right up there with my street glide

[@SINIS0RSA]

I loved the style of this video. Combination of sightseeing and bike review, what's not to like!? 🙂

[@alejandrollamas692]

Love my 2022 400 Burgman!

[@KiwiMoto72]

I grew up ridding scooters in the 80's. They were my intro to proper motorcycles. I still own a few vintage Vespa'. I don't ride motorcycles on the street or tour them anymore. Too dangerous. I mostly, exclusively ride on the track now, as it is much safer. The only street "bike" I have now is a BV400 Piaggio. Its awesome. Low stress, and practical.

[@mimmo681]

Idem

[@MissPhy6]

I have a 20221 BV 350 and I love it. The best thing to do here (Seattle) is take the ferry across to the pennisula. Scooters and motorcycles get loaded on first and do not have to wait in the long car line. Just go around the cars and zip onto the ferry. I am shorter so I like the idea of the Burgman being a little lower to the ground.

[@axelfiraxa]

I was actually looking into getting a Beverly and this video is right on time!

[@richarddegen6184]

Beverly is outstanding, 350 is best size

[@garyvandersluis2368]

I’ve just completed an 1100 kilometre trip from NSW into Queensland on “mostly” very ordinary roads and a lot of rain. My BV 400 performed faultlessly, never missed a beat travelling at a consistent 110kph to 120kph. With a top box, under seat storage and two Corazzo soft throwover panniers I had more storage than I needed for a 7 day trip. The only downside was a fuel reduction from 29.5 ks/l to 26 because of the panniers

[@garyvandersluis2368]

Now 20 months old and 14000+ ks on the clock and I still love this scooter. No problems encountered, 12000 k tyre change to Michelin citygrip2’s full day touring at speeds up to 140kph are easy and at 5ft 11in (180cm) and 94 kilos I have never had any problems with comfort either. True it would be nice to be able to move my feet to a different position but this scoot is more comfortable to ride long distances then any bike I have owned in my 55 years of riding. Only my 08 Yammie Tmax was maybe better

[@enginerikli5895]

@@garyvandersluis2368 175 and 95 here. Looking at the specs, BV400 is on the heavy side. They say the seat is high, too. Is it difficult to control in really tight traffic? How likely are you to drop it?

[@garyvandersluis2368]

@@enginerikli5895 It's high but I don't have any problem getting my feet on the ground . I've never come close to dropping it. As to weight I believe it's lighter than most of the other 400's

[@robrenwick4591]

​​@@enginerikli5895Doesn't feel heavy (low center of gravity) and is almost like riding a bicycle to me. 5'11" and 30" inside leg and can get my feet down no problem, but not flat foot. I have no worries about dropping it whatsoever.

[@paulharvey5053]

Great film format 👍 being an English man that's visited La it was great to see some of the sites again but not the traffic ! Suzuki for me. No cookies from cookie monster 🙄 it's almost like father & son having a day out 😂👍

[@kaykay8686]

Great video! More scooter comparisons, please!

[@hectorvara750]

Thank you. Great video!

[@broncosgjn]

Fast fwd to the part about bikes. 10.45

[@Whos-That-Guy]

I have a Piaggio Fly 150 and the switch gear feels really cheap but it holds up just fine. The indicator button is particularly bad but 10 years on and it's still functioning.

[@ddbhaha1529]

Piaggio looks like a 150cc. Suzuki looks like it is from 2004.

[@dmoyer2]

I love the scooter content. I ride a Lance Cabo 200i. For getting around Sacramento, it’s perfect.

[@Supernova12034]

Great episode! Very underrated

[@roamereasy9737]

You can leave the buckle of helmet under the seat and press lock the seat while leaving helmet dangle outside. A U shape lock could be used to lock the helmet to the rear rack.

[@taebert]

Great video comparing two big scoots. Many years ago I owned a 2009 Burgman 400. It was a great bike and I regret selling it. I seem to remember the under seat storage being bigger. I had no problem using it to pick up a scale of beer. The new one looks like the trunk is smaller.

[@dank9288639]

the storage space is considerably smaller

[@garyvandersluis2368]

Finally after more than a year a video review IN ENGLISH of the Piaggio BV400hpe or as it is known here in Australia the Beverley, seems like a good comparison with the Suzuki. I loved my BV 350 but the 400 is so much better and a very capable tourer 300+ miles a day is easy. Thanks for an enjoyable review and ride about LA on the perfect machines to do so

[@Jimo368]

Nice to see some scooter love but throwing the X Max 300 in would have been a good idea

[@robrenwick4591]

Why? You can't buy them...

[@davidphillips7255]

I traded in my V-Strom 1000 for a Burgman (gettin' old) and I was shocked at how good the brakes are on the 400. They dropped the speedlimits around here. It was a real pain on a 1000cc Adventure bike but still fun on the scoot.

[@houseofroos]

Did I miss fuel economy, range, weight? Engine and transmission? Capability for more storage ?

[@arrow0872]

Those details are in their website. www.motorcycle.com/shoot-outs/showdown-2022-piaggio-bv400-vs-suzuki-burgman-400

[@goru426]

I smashed the like button and Subscribed. Can you guys review the Kymco AK550i?

[@renehenriquez666]

Great video guys 👍 and I love Pupusas!! but we need to see more options like a burgman 200, kymco people 150i or kymco ak550 very difficult find reviews of scooter in California

[@abdulazizsaleh9567]

This so interesting i do like the journey.. throughout LA...it was magnificent 👍🏻😃💯 If its about motorcycle or a tour guide.. this is it... absolutely love it... I think this Channel should do more often a tour like this .... thanks guys....i fo appreciate it,💯👍🏻🌴

[@TK-gd9td]

12:56 you're right it doesn't have the wheel torque to lose traction but you'll need the TC if you're going on ground conditions that has you losing traction like very wet or slippery, or gravel, etc. it'll help reduce the chances of a slip or the severity of a slide situation

[@RoadHazard55]

I have an 07 burgman 400 that is badly abused, jumped, offroad, etc. It's still going strong at 34k miles of pure hell.

[@dank9288639]

aye bro what's the top speed of that sucker? is it freeway worthy?

[@RoadHazard55]

@@dank9288639 it'll run 90+ mph on flat ground, ive had it to 105 down hill , but i did modify the CVT a little. cruises highway speeds without a problem.

[@axelfiraxa]

Such a great drive through LA

[@seanbarry72]

Nice video. But I certainly didn’t see that much traffic congestion. The roads were completely empty for the most part.

[@stevemiller7433]

The Piaggio is a hell of a lot more maneuverable in town, The Burgman is long and heavy.

[@markcard7978]

Initially I tried a Yamaha Majesty 400, it's comparable to the Suzuki. I settled on a Piaggio BV though as its more scooter like in overall handling and daily use. The motorcycles for everything out of town, for in town Scooters rule the road.... San Diego Cal....

[@robrenwick4591]

The BV400 is just as capable as a motorcycle out of town too.

[@markcard7978]

Depends on the usage The large wheels do go a long way in the Scooter vs MC gap. @@robrenwick4591

[@elgar6743]

Burnsie and Troy...on scooters...excellent!!

[@cribs4551]

Loved my BV 350. It was in the shop more than I rode it (kept blowing a screw at the top of the engine that would puke coolant) but it was nippy and great in the bends. In hindsight I’d have the Suzuki now, much more comfortable and still rides well.

[@Reano29s]

I had this problem with my BV350, it was an easy fix. The thermostat housing is made of plastic & mounted to the metal head of the engine so in time the heat warps the plastic housing causing the coolant to leak. I simply removed the thermo housing & applied some gasket sealant & never had a problem again 👍

[@cribs4551]

@@Reano29s Great tip 👍. I wish I knew, I miss that scoot.

[@Reano29s]

@@cribs4551 Yes they are a very versatile machine. I too sold mine & missed it so I have just put a deposit on another one, Hence why I am watching scooter videos again 🙂

[@jakefloyd2866]

L O V E The scoots, not so much California!!!

[@robertsalyers1351]

I've now had my 2020 Suzuki Burgman 400 Scooter for 2 years now and have put just over 1200 miles on her. Zero problems 💯 % pure enjoyment...Get Some !!!!!!

[@mig50cc]

Only 1200 miles? I'd hope it would have zero problems 🤷🏻

[@jasontomica8938]

​@@mig50cchahahaha

[@nathantherealtorsonoma]

More people need to ride scooters. Love motorcycles too but for a quick, easy, fun and cheap way to get around you can beat a scooter.

[@tootawlpawl]

I've been torn between these 2 models and really appreciate both your insights. In the late 80s early 90s, the P200E and Serveta 200 had been my go-to. Now that I'm 50.. having to do repairs all the time isn't as appealing, nor am I looking to cut them down and pimp them out anymore (7 coats of pearlescent on black, larger center tanks and extended forks ..etm). I do want power and reliability afforded to both as these are definitely pluses. I'm getting the feeling that the Bergman might suit my 6'4" frame better though.

[@SayAbyss]

is the beverly 350 strong enough for highway trafic to ride with trafic

[@richarddegen6184]

Very much so!!!

[@richvogel6902]

I came here to watch a scooter review and had to listen to two turkeys, talking about zoos and local attractions😮

[@strezification]

Hello. I need an honest opinion on this scooter. I i'm in doubt what to buy between the Kymco, the Honda Forza 350 and the Yamaha Xmax 300. In my country Xciting costs 7500 euros same as Honda Forza 350(7500 euros) while the Yamaha Xmax 300 costs 7800 euros(this price for Japanese scooters because of stupid import tax from outside EU) . I i'm 187cm tall and 105kg, and i wanna buy scooter for in town use work, shopping, go to coffe, but also for longer trips for the weekend with my wife. What would you buy having in mind the comfort, the power, the underseat storage, the suspension, the brakes,fuel consumption and the overall quality of the bikes. What would be your choice having in mind the price as well? I would really apriciate your answer. Thank you

[@mimmo681]

Nuovo Beverly 400 … ottimo compromesso ed unica con nuovo motore interamente riprogettato

[@tumer_fc6372]

Year 2023 Suzuki Burgman 400 will there be a new model coming?

[@ONEly-uc4et]

Great Review... Would be good to reviews of the Yami and BMW too. Keep it going

[@karlbel4992]

BMW little storage space.. it's a Kymco engine made in China with BMW stickers for BMW price . Taiwan engine made in China by Loncin

[@ONEly-uc4et]

@@karlbel4992 Not a first for BMW. The Xmax is pretty interesting 🤔

[@karlbel4992]

@@ONEly-uc4et That's true. I use Forza 350 white 2022 just for hobbies. I agree Xmax and Forza are the best choice for me. ADV only for passion Forza for reason. The 2 best sellers in Europ Forza and Xmax. In Thailand Forza Forza and Forza.

[@PiaggioFrancesco]

You try to put your hemlet under the Piaggio the wrong way (6:29), try it with the visor point the fornt of the scooter, Believe me it fit.

[@12345sics]

Just to let you know that a small mistake was done in this video. To put a modular helmet under the seat of the Piaggio you need to loose the helmet and it fits

[@numbzinger350]

Helmet storage did it for me, hands or actually, seats down!

[@giannisnagos1506]

Piaggio is the best. Italian makes scouters

[@IvanRides]

Pupusas! Nice lol More scooter episodes please

[@marscruz]

The conversation on the scooters is REALLY sharp and clear. Nice! Burns always brings a smile to my face. A fellow curmudgeon of the same era if not the same stature. Not sure which one I would prefer but there is a used BV350 not too far away. Too bad the nearest dealer is over 4 hours distant. I'm in a quandary. Not rich enough for a new scoot but interested none the less. Thanks for stretching your coverage outside your normal categories. With 50+ years experience on motorbikes -- now a scooter is looking good for cheap local fun and games. Don't let Burns retire. It's not as fun as his current job. Wanna trade?

[@garyvandersluis2368]

So long as it’s post 2013 don’t hesitate with the BV350. They are a fast, good handling, comfortable, economical, scooter capable of Freeway and Suburban use. You won’t regret buying a BV350

[@marscruz]

@@garyvandersluis2368 Yeah, it's a 2015 with less than 2000 miles but it's two hours away. He just lowered the price to $3500. Maybe I'll go look at it this weekend. The price still seems kinda high.

[@garyvandersluis2368]

@@marscruz Not by my standards, that seems a very reasonable price for a low mileage BV . But the $A is only worth $US.75cents I sold my 2016 BV 350 13000 miles for $A6000 and my BV 400 cost $A12240.Hey you can always negotiate.

[@marscruz]

@@garyvandersluis2368 I just talked to the guy. He's a truckie and on the road right now. I'll get a chance to look at it in 4-5 days when he returns home. He bought it for his wife and they moved out of the city and it's not much use on his 8 acres in the country now. A new 2022 BV400 goes for $7200 here in the states. He has a Givi trunk with LEDs and an slip on Malossi can that he says saves 7kg. Less than 2000 miles sounds good.

[@garyvandersluis2368]

@@marscruz It sounds great! My 350 had an Akrapovic can on it and a Malossi variator and I thought they gave me an extra 3hp and a weight saving of about 5kilos. Just my humble opinion but I don’t think you will be disappointed if you jump. Let me know what you think after you have had a ride and if you buy it. Good luck!

[@randygravel2057]

Bought a BV today 😃

[@solankisanjay74]

Which song used in background?

[@mikemerrill175]

You missed the homeless camps

[@elgar6743]

Nah...it was just edited out...for 'marketing purposes'...obviously.

[@Nooziterp1]

7:00 - do that in the UK (leave them not locked to something solid like a metal post) and when you came back at least one of them and probably both would be gone.

[@jake88ci]

I have new Superbike collection all models both euro and japanese ( euro best in all aspects now)Owed a superbike team ect ect AND a touring scooter for long rides . Traded in my 400 burgman for 400 piaggio as the Piaggio rode so much better down highways and plusher ride around town

[@brianbartlett1907]

I chose the Burgman over the BV 400 bc I thought the BV looked too much like a big moped. I already have a Vespa Primavera 150 bored to 180cc that looks kinda like a moped. It is quick and maneuverable here in Las Vegas. The Burgman feels much more solid and the first thing I noticed were the 15”/14” wheels vs the 12” Vespa wheels!

[@brianbartlett1907]

Also, I lived in the LA area well over 20 years and never heard or saw anything about the old zoo. That was pretty cool. Historic.

[@gkelly34]

What’s TC?

[@mikemerrill175]

I have a BV 350. It has speedo error of about 10% high.

[@Jay-rd6fe]

i love piaggio they have more power than any other scooters but a second handd burgman 400 can be foundd for 2k and for that u cant pass on it but whne it coes to new id rather go tmax for that price

[@salmonline]

That zoo was depressing AF.

[@elgar6743]

True. At least most of the graffiti and the very visible homeless population and tent cities were edited out...

[@karlbel4992]

Pleasant video .Here is Honda Forza 350 2022 white color with topcase in Belgium 70miles SE Brussels .. Greetings

[@cannondale866]

👍nice. I ride my Kymco 400 scooter everywhere

[@ojabog]

They spend more time showing the sites than riding.

[@moguerlain7158]

I have a Burgman and Yamaha and by far Burgman more comfortable and safer with braking the suspension of the Burgman is more softer and the driving position allows you to drive all day without being embarrassed to drive for the Piaggio that's all the opposite is the driving position 👎 and the fact that it is higher makes it less comfortable and I didn't like the handlebars which force you to lean forward a little unlike Burgman or Xmax where the handlebars come towards you

[@johnnyblue4799]

I really like this video. Maybe you can do more of the same... plenty bikes to review and plenty things to show in USA.

[@tx2sturgis]

Cliffy the postman!

[@rockyp3917]

John Burns looks like a Gang Member and has a cool name too

[@sdafasdfasdfsda]

Griffith J. Griffith...the J stands for Jriffith.

[@joeblow5037]

Nice ride guys cheers :-)

[@barryervin8536]

I'd have to take the Piaggio, even though I try to avoid Italian vehicles. I worked on too many Italian cars in the past and owned 3 Italian motorcycles and am not impressed. But the "lean backwards with my feet way out front" riding position is not for me.

[@yeluripati]

Both riding scooters around LA is like carnivores goes on vegan diet😜. But video is too good❤️ to miss.

[@mrmoon1482]

Prefer the burgman 200 than the 400, top speed is very similar but the 200 has much more space under seat “2 full face helmets” But the 400 is far better than the piaggio,

[@thinkdunson]

19:08 "i would much rather be on any of these scooters than being that poor sap riding a [gixxer] down the freeway" i pity you, Troy. i'll leave it at that.

[@erwinmotorbike]

Lay the helmet on its side

[@mattp2035]

Don't knock TC on anything, including a scooter. SE Asia has the rainy season. The rest of the world outside of southern California appreciates ABS and TC on bikes, and yes, even scooters.

[@mikeschlup5279]

When the drive belt goes out on the Suzuki it is big bucks to fix.

[@cwheremonster8870]

I thought the same thing. With the help of KZbin video (there’s several of them) I replaced my own. I’m not a mechanic. All for the price of a belt. I did buy a torque wrench. But I use that all t he time now.

[@scootersetc3003]

You're probably thinking of the Burgman 650. The 400 is no different than any other scooter. On the 650 the entire bike and engine need to be torn down.

[@davidelizabeth4933]

No scooter tour through LA is complete without cruising through some of the massive homeless encampments. C'mon, boys! Talk about a missed opportunity.

[@dank9288639]

@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 lol fuuuck

[@jeeves6490]

Poverty porn is a low class activity.

[@kennypool]

Love my honda helix scooter. 250cc.and my honda reflex 250cc. 70 mpg. Whats not to love

[@DailyDrivenBikes_1]

La looks like it sucks to ride any kind of two wheeled vehicle.

[@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist]

Actually, it’s quite fun! I’ve been doing it since 1989.

[@tidianekebe1123]

You heard so much bad about California in the news that you forget how magical of a place it's. I was really not much into scooters but with age I'm starting to warm over them.

[@robrenwick4591]

Had motorcycles for many years, but these bigger scooters are more practical and more fun as far as I'm concerned. 'Wish id discovered them sooner...

[@andrewthwaites3004]

I have owned a Piaggio x8 250 and a couple of burgman 400. I would recommend the Burgman 400 as it is better for short and tall people. Piaggios are not as well made my x8 engine was in the throws of dying after 25000 miles my burgmans have done over 50000 each.

[@robrenwick4591]

A 400 engine will be a lot less stressed than a 250 at highway speeds, so...

[@mariorokavec1511]

X max 300 !

[@dank9288639]

theres too much left to be desired with the xmax. i have the 2023 and its lacking in just about every department.

[@CraigSmith568]

Still not on board with the scooter. Especially at this price. Maybe if I rode one I would change my mind. I think for the money a Versys 650 or even a Honda CB500X would be a better value for your money. I will say that you guys do take a good picture.

[@broncosgjn]

Try one. You will b surprised.

[@neilwiddison6529]

I rode a burgman 400 yesterday for the first time and love it. Now looking at getting one to tour up to Scotland on.

[@broncosgjn]

@@neilwiddison6529 You r going to love it.

[@ezekieloruven]

Depends on what you mean by "value." Way too often riders confuse horsepower/torque/speed as value, where the only thing that matters is how fast you can go or how strong the engine is. This just isn't the value of a scooter. Can you go pick up some food in your motorcycle? There's basically no storage on most bikes, but generous storage is standard on a scooter, and usually enough to fit all your gear. How much maintenance do you need to do on your bike? Scooters frequently only need oil changes and tires, and those tires last a lot longer than sports bikes and never requires chain cleaning. Changing the belt is really easy and affordable. Does your bike come with a center stand? Can you attach a top box to it? Do you have to worry about gear shifting or can you just concentrate on the ride? Scooters value comes from how out-of-the-box useful and easy to care for they are, not requiring extra work to make them that perfect commuting tool and great second vehicle. The word "practical" is a dirty word in American powersports today, but it was why I started.

[@robrenwick4591]

​@@ezekieloruvenAll very true and twist n' go scooters are just much more fun to ride.

[@abayasugen8446]

The 650 burgervan or the kymco ak550 have got to be the best then.

[@eko6160]

PIAGGIO IS THE BEST

[@royromero8496]

Please try the BMW C400GT!YOU WILL BE PLEASENTLY SURPRISED!

[@robrenwick4591]

But you'll be unpleasantly surprised when you take it in for routine maintenance 😅

[@joseadavila7445]

How safe is to park in Los Angeles . I am surprised the homeless have not move in to the old zoo stall's . Tells me there no drugs around the old zoo ? I have piaggio mp3 500 in so AZ . Try to avoid big city's .

[@laryangel4082]

I park mine inside the hotel.room on bottom floor

[@brendanflegle3326]

Lol

[@lostsol68]

I thought all motorcycle classes taught riders to use the full lane and not to split lanes, as that practice is very dangerous. It's already bad that car drivers don't see, or flat out don't care about riders. Splitting lanes can easily result in disastrous consequences. Let's show the right way to ride responsibly, shall we... For the record, I would opt for the Suzuki based on the technology, ergonomics and style.

[@robrenwick4591]

Actually, you're wrong. The Hurd report noted that lane splitting is actually safer as you have much less chance of being rear ended (especially important in these days of rampant cell phone use by drivers). States other than California are now allowing lane splitting and filtering, but no-one forces you to do it. I commuted on California's freeways for many years and was only side-swiped two or three times (once or twice deliberately), but never came off the bike and no damage done to the bike. On balance, I think lane splitting is a good thing, but car drivers must be educated to accept it.

[@amaurydemacedonepomuceno-ti9og]

Suzuki is very good....