SHOWDOWN | Marshall DSL20HR VS. EVH 5150 III LBX Stealth

[@jmhatutube]

I’ve got the EVH 5150 III LBX Stealth and love it. I will be getting that same Marshall soon as it seems their sound is subtly different. Great video. Thanks.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Awesome! You'll love that too! Both amps are killer. And thanks!

[@ivanbailon7161]

Today I purchased the EVH thanks in part to your opinions. And I can only say thank you. It's just awesome. Everyone talks about how good it is, until you try it for yourself.🔝🤘🏻

[@shredaintdead9323]

Glad to hear it!! It's a killer amp that doesn't get the attention it deserves!

[@jimmyjames7946]

I agree with you.. they both are great sounding but for me when you played leads the EVH really shined! Bite, aggressive and smooth all at the same time 🤘🤘

[@shredaintdead9323]

I agree 👍 💯

[@stump6721]

Just found your site from Loue Torres , nice vid! Subscribed Marshall all the way!!! Stealth sounds thin. Look forward to more vids!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks man!! I'll have a new vid out tomorrow!!

[@MarkAnthony5150]

Gt8 demo, I thought it was my ears evh did sound a bit thin compared to Marshall..

[@-Mardos]

Your Marshall also seems to have this "static" Sound in the High end. Especially on Palm Mutes. I've tried to get rid of it, different Boosts, using presence vs treble to Boost the High end, external eq after recording, its Impossible.

[@-Mardos]

Good Thing: you dont hear it in a Mix anyways

[@shredaintdead9323]

I'm not sure what static sound you mean 🤔 but there's definitely a sort of high end fizz thing that marshalls all have

[@-Mardos]

@@shredaintdead9323 thats probably it. Its the first Marshall i own

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@-Mardos you definitely get used to it. Personally I love my amp and even like that

[@jd426]

I agree I like amps on the bright side. The DSL has to be dark sounding for no fizz sound. I’ll take the forward mids in the EVH over the fizzy highs in the DSL any day. And the EVH does not need a boost. EVH amps always seem easier to play also.

[@qbertrtrtg]

marshall has a very vintage sound to it. perfect for 80s thrash metal since alot of them used boosted jcm 800s

[@shredaintdead9323]

💯 agree!

[@Jaundice__]

Nice Winger cover at the beginning. I need to learn that one. Iced Earth ❄️🌎

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks!

[@seek4truth]

Damn! That marshall sounds great! Of all DSL20HR videos i have watched so far, your video sound the best! This is basically early thrash metal sound that i love. EVH has more mids and sound much modern, tighter, maybe better for lower tunings. I'd love to see a comparison of DSL20H with the SC20H with the same riffs and guitar.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! Honestly both amps are killer! I wish I had the sc20h

[@MetalKillsRap2]

EVH all day

[@rylandbriar6085]

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[@thomasnixon6385]

@Ryland Briar yup, I have been using instaflixxer for years myself :)

[@aliengrey6052]

Totally agree

[@jimmyjames7946]

EVH EVH EVH 🤘🤘 GREAT VIDEO BROTHA

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks!!!

[@edwardboe4762]

Seventeen by Winger!! Awesome dude \m/

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks!

[@brianfalls7128]

I appreciate you doing this comparison video! I already have the Marshall DSL 20 and ordered the EVH lBX stealth to replace a Hughes and Kettner that I could not get along with. In your opinion does the EVH take pedals well? As far as the comparison the Marshall sounded thicker which I liked. Don’t get me wrong the EVH sounds great too.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks!! I think the evh takes pedals VERY well and ESPECIALLY preamp pedals. My ksr ceres and diezel vh4-2 and herbert pedals never sounded so good!

[@stephenbartlett6402]

The Marshall sounded too high on the gain, kinda like that late 80s chainsaw gain. The EQ on the Marshall I thought was way better. Something missing in the video with the evh but that could be how the settings were dialed. Also most video makers forget to address the power setting on the back or the resonance knob. How you use the tubes will change the sound dramatically. Personally I like the prs mt-15 better than both of these amps

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@stephenbartlett6402 after playing the mt15 recently it was my least favorite of all of them, but tone is subjective and there's tons of killer amps out there now! Something for everyone

[@JohnDoe-jc3cl]

@@shredaintdead9323 Dude, I appreciate your time, effort and knowledge doing this video. I’m on the fence about an 80’s hard rock sound/ tone amp. Either EVH or Marshall. Through the innovation of youtube, I can gauge things. The Marshall sounded authentic. Great things said about the EVH, but it sounded like an empty cereal box here. That low end on the Marshall was killer. Esp at 4:16- Metallica riff. If you had them set the same, the EVH sounded shrill ( to my ears. Apple ear buds. ) Every guitarists taste is different and the settings on a KZbin video aren’t going to capture everything, but thanks for something to gauge on. Subscribed!

[@shredaintdead9323]

@JohnDoe-jc3cl the marshall wins all day to me. A much bigger fuller spot on 80s tone to my ear.

[@michaelheath76901]

I have the EVH LBX II, and was really surprised how much more I like the Marshall. Can you get a bluesy clean out of this Marshall?

[@shredaintdead9323]

Yeah you can definitely dial the gain back and get those tones

[@danvan8789]

i have an EVH 5150iii EL34 50 watt and did a shootout against my Marshall DSL 20h that I just picked up and thought i was loosing my mind, I liked the dsl better . was playing to a foo fighters backing track (Somthin From Nothin). I like it better here too, now I want to try the 100 watt

[@shredaintdead9323]

The dsl20 is insanely good! Punches way above its weight. It was my favorite amp of all time that I've owned until I got my soldano astro 20. Still a VERY close 2nd though! Best amp for the money out there

[@ericdraven9064]

Thanks for the vidéo,i want buy a mini head ,but Marshall or Evh ..🤔 i dont know..

[@shredaintdead9323]

Both are killer. If you're playing in a band and need to get over a drummer get the marshall, if you're just playing at home the evh is much more reasonable volumes

[@sepultubob]

How about the noise on the Marshall ? I read it is pretty unmanageable.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Not at all. Not any noisier then any other amp. Just use a noise gate and your fine.

[@Kyush4]

Have you ever tried the DSL15H? how does it compare against the LBX-S 15 at bedroom levels? I'm pretty much sold on the LBS, not gonna lie. It always surprises me how many people think they like the JCM 800 2203 when they actually like a hot rodded version of that amp, which is essentially what this DSL amps are at a fraction of the price, haha. Like, who played with one of those totally stock and no pedals? I can't think of anybody.

[@shredaintdead9323]

I haven't tried the dsl15. It doesn't have an fx loop which makes it useless to me. The 20 is pretty Loud though even at bedroom volumes. The lbx stealth is wayyy better at bedroom levels.

[@PsyloOfficial]

The Marshall kills it here. Pro tip...get you a mxr 10 band eq... youwont belive what that does to your tone. :) just saying..also..get a isp decimator. Must have for tube amps.

[@shredaintdead9323]

I have both:)

[@weaselpopper]

Been using isp decimator since they came out fully endorse.

[@JRs-guitars]

Leads sounded killer on the Marshall, hi gain rythm was a little better with the EVH. I Just ordered the DSL! Also...just fyi...I contacted Marshall, they told me that a rebias on the amp is not needed for power tube replacements! That's a win/win!

[@shredaintdead9323]

That's awesome to know!

[@JRs-guitars]

@@shredaintdead9323 well my DSl doesn't sound as good as yours...so I ditched the Marshall cab and ordered a EVH 212 cab. Should be an improvement lol

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@JRs-guitars I had an evh 2x12 cab. They're killer! I bet you'll love it!

[@JRs-guitars]

@@shredaintdead9323 thanks! I was going to grab a Mesa but they're out of stock everywhere, so EVH saved me $200 lol

[@Sticky_Tea]

@@JRs-guitars yeah, I have the matching cab, the vertical 212, it's pretty terrible 🤣 Awesome monitor stand though 😬

[@JRs-guitars]

Also....really liked the video and your playing. How about some videos with some drop tunings???

[@shredaintdead9323]

Will do!

[@randypittman4994]

I thought the EVH kicked its butt in clean and dirty tones .The cleans were more articulate and the dirty tones were a lot less buzzy on the EVH.

[@SimonMedia666]

In my opinion Marshall absolutelly wins much more brutal metal tone :) (maybe I am biased cause I have this Marshall :D

[@NotAnotherSatchFan]

I have the 5150lbxs and love it to death. Now, I wanted to replace my Joyo Bantamp JackmanII XL for a much better amp... do you think DSL20H is a good cheap alternative for JCM800?

[@shredaintdead9323]

Absolutely. You can still get the jcm800 tones out if it, as well as plexi tones too. It has a lot more gain available then the jcm800 too. I have no reason to get an actual jcm800 since I can get any marshall tone I want out of the dsl20. It's one of the best value amps out there.

[@NotAnotherSatchFan]

@@shredaintdead9323 Thanks good to know! I thought I'm giving up my JackmanII but turns out it has special tone and has cleaner / uncompressed crunch that I can't replicate to my 5150LBX-S at lower gain --- maybe I'm missing the blue channel? probably not. Cheers!

[@darindavis6297]

@@shredaintdead9323 Hmmm...thanks for that comment. Considering both amps + the SC20/Mini JCM800. Given that I'm a home player/hobby type, the SC20 may just be way more than I'll need or ever appreciate. Especially at low volume. DSL20HR = more value and more sensible for basement heroes like me who kind of suck at guitar.

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@darindavis6297 youre welcome. Honestly there's no point for any player at any level to spend $900 more to get less channels, options and features. The dsl20 is fantastic. It can nail plexi, 800 and jubilee tones so well.

[@dex6360]

what were your marshall settings

[@shredaintdead9323]

I have a video called How to dial in a killer 80s tone with your dsl20. Settings in that video!

[@romanshredz]

Cool video 🤘both amps sound great. I have the EVHIII stealth LBX and love it. Im just about to pull the trigger on the Marshall DSL20HR but wondering if I should wait and save up the extra dough for the Studio SCH20 🤷‍♂️ any thoughts ? Thrash metal is the name

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! Honestly the sch20 isn't worth it. Only one channel and dsl20 has 2 channels and more gain and features and its half the price. Grab the dsl20 you'll love it! I'm also a sales engineer at Sweetwater so feel to reach out about the dsl20 [e-mail]

[@romanshredz]

@@shredaintdead9323 cool thanks for the input man 🤘🔥🤘 I wish we had sweetwater here in Canada

[@portuguesebeer5069]

The Marshall sounded better to me. More headroom. Cheers from Portugal 🤘🍺🇵🇹

[@shredaintdead9323]

Definitely agree. Cheers dude!

[@StratES335]

To me the clean sound is much better on the EVH. For the gain channel, they both sound great. Different but great. I own the EVH stealth and find the gain channel to be all gain all the time. The gain control doesn’t do much. But I do like it.

[@nomadronin7361]

I think the original LBX would be a closer comparison to the Marshall. Mine will thump through a V30.

[@PainterDans]

Have you tried the new studio sc20 ? Nice playing !

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! That's the only one I haven't tried in the 20w marshall range. I'm sure it's great though.

[@juliodefreitas157]

Awesome video and thank you for sharing your tips👍👍

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks!

[@MarkAnthony5150]

Gr8 demo, what's the signal path, gr8 playing and demo, any post eq added compression ect effects loop used? That marshall sounded beefier to my ears I know the evh is a monster, but it did sound a bit thinner??? ROCK ON oh those v30s cab sounded gr8 and marshall bit more fizz, that's fixable,.marshall mids scooped slighty?

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! No post eq or processing. Each head was Ean into my engl 2x12 with v30s micd with a sm57

[@murdock8068]

I watched another video of the v30s. Chinese vs UK. The Chinese sounded thinner. The UK -mesa ones were a lot darker beefier. Wonder if thats the difference? I just ordered a harley benton vertical 212 with v30s. I'm thinking of going eminence versions of the greenback. Gb128s To be exact. Idk if that will darken the sound a bit or not. Maybe even one of each? I have a gb128 in a 1x12 cab I built. We'll see!

[@shredaintdead9323]

As far as I know that's the difference between the 2 v30 versions

[@marcusbeyer8481]

the marshall had a better sound in isolation, but I'm willing to bet the EVH will work better in a mix (plus the cleans had more chime). The dsl20 has more bottom end and 2k+ sizzle; while the evh is more focused into the mids, with that 1k-1200hz bite

[@shredaintdead9323]

Agreed on all of that

[@andreasasector1906]

In my ears the evh sounds not so shiny as the marshall

[@21stcenturymetal31]

I have both of those and love them equally lol Cool Vid

[@shredaintdead9323]

Same! And thanks dude!

[@BrunoidGames]

After I got this Marshall I never touched my Tonex again, it's another experience

[@ivanbailon7161]

I really like the Marshall but the sound of the Stealth is more versatile in my opinion. I had the Dsl 1head and sold it because it was too loud. The 20w sounds huge and I love it.👌🏻Great demo man.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Thanks! I totally agree. Stealth is more versatile and the clean channel is much more useable too.

[@Dral.09]

The dls1 has the option to 0.1watt and even so it was too loud? What amp you use then?

[@jessetate9701]

I wanna test out the stealth mini head I like the tones

[@shredaintdead9323]

It's an absolutely killer mini head! The clarity and agression are unbelievable

[@jessetate9701]

@@shredaintdead9323 apparently evh Iconic series is made by James brown and has the same Circuit as the og block letter 5150

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@jessetate9701 yeah man this lbx stealth is actually made by him too! I think the iconic will be awesome too. James Brown is a genius.

[@jessetate9701]

@@shredaintdead9323 oh yea that’s awesome 👏 I didn’t know that learn something new everyday\m/ he definitely is

[@brettwaine5432]

Hey man I love ya vids...the keyboard bit "but Greg" is fukn hilarious...your a legend...iv got the lbx stealth too rfta selling my prsmt15, as it was way to fkn loud n sounded shit for at home...I use the stealth on full power but the volume low is the best sounding at home amp iv used ever....I read your response to a comment that James Brown made the lbx stealth??? 1st time iv heard that...where did ya get that info from....also iv pre-ordered the iconic head in white to sit on my krank cab with V30s & creamback 65...not X pattern but CBs in top n V30s on bottom... awesome can't wait....stay cool bro n keep Rockin dude...

[@Robbie28]

For me, it was the Marshall. I really liked the more low end, and seemed to be more harmonically rich. The EVH seemed a bit nasal for my taste. Did you use a boost pedal on either? and were they both playing through same cab? And yea., as usual im a day late and a dollar short on videos lol

[@shredaintdead9323]

No boost, same cab with both!

[@DJ33]

I have to say the EVH as well. Just sounded like music to my ears.

[@craigharrison5406]

DSL 20 FTW!

[@kg4st]

Like that Marshall snarl !!

[@keolahutchinson7687]

Gotta have both. The 5150 variants all have their own thing. And so does Marshall. Megadeth Tornado of Souls? Gotta go Marshall. Trivium? 5150.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Totally agree and love both of those bands too!

[@jimx1696]

No comparison. Not sure what people are using to listen but the Marshall sounds big, pushing, strong mids and roaring. The EVH sounds small, weak, empty.

[@krumple4skin548]

The dsl is half the price of the evh here and lambchopper gets some great tones out of it also

[@shredaintdead9323]

Well it's $150 less. That's why I wanted to compare them. Similar price and tones

[@tommilitello198]

The dsl is fifty dollars cheaper now and has never been half the price

[@krumple4skin548]

@tommilitello198 must be a tax thing there but the marshall is 600 dollars here compared to the evh that is 1128 aud here

[@BrankoSimic696]

Marshall all the way..

[@shredaintdead9323]

Such a killer amp! Especially for the price

[@guitaräxl]

The marshall bites more...but.i love both

[@shredaintdead9323]

Same here. Both are killer

[@vanhalen5150jhs]

i like evh but the Marshall takes that one. I just picked up a dsl 20h today.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Congrats! You'll love it!

[@matthutchinson7527]

As owner of a JCM 2000 dsl50 and previously owner of a EVH 5153 50 watt I have to choose the Marshall

[@shredaintdead9323]

Can't go wrong with the marshall!

[@troyredford149]

Both sound great but the Marshall sounds a little better to my ears but the 100watt version of these models the EVH might be a little better from what I've heard so far.

[@shredaintdead9323]

I agree. Marshall is fuller but needs a boost. Evh is more aggressive and tighter and doesn't need a boost. The Marshall clean channel is pretty shrill and useless, the evh clean is great. Both are great for different things

[@chipchiperson679]

For the style you’re playing which is thrash the Marshall is the clear winner EVH is to compressed

[@gravelrocks5588]

I know what you are thinking shut up and listen they are both awesome amps but hands down I would pick the marshall me me me me me me.. PS..I thought you were going to give a brief description of the weather outside

[@shredaintdead9323]

Weather is cloudy with a chance of shred!

[@Sticky_Tea]

@@shredaintdead9323 a shred of sunshine?

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@Sticky_Tea sure?

[@youWoNtLikeMe04]

I'm using a lbx stealth with an mxr 10 band in the loop... Sound fucking epic.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Same!

[@cybersixx]

Both are unique and good but i would go with the marshall , when you are soloing i prefer the marshall sound .

[@shredaintdead9323]

Honestly you can't go wrong either way!

[@barbaraburns7237]

Both sound amazing, however, Pikachu says Eevee (EV) I choose YOU!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Haha Pikachu is wise!

[@ubertwerpify]

Marshall for a a clean sweep win for me - its raspy but the mids sound “correct” for the music being played - 5150 is grungier, gainier and well shittier for 80s metal to my ears

[@crsantin]

Ok first of all who gives a shit about clean tones 😂😂😂. They both sound great. I’d take the 5150. It sounds a bit darker and compressed in a good way. I’d be happy with that Marshall too.

[@shredaintdead9323]

Hahaha honestly both amps are incredible

[@GaryGoodman-n9j]

Marshall way warmer!

[@moogman5]

No contest...Marshall on cleans, dirt, and crunch by a mile

[@juliodefreitas157]

Marshall

[@terrywashburn6347]

EVH

[@gravelrocks5588]

El34 vs el84 you can definitely hear the difference

[@shredaintdead9323]

Definitely agree

[@gravelrocks5588]

@@shredaintdead9323 If you didn't have them side-by-side one after the other you probably wouldn't even know the difference

[@shredaintdead9323]

@@gravelrocks5588 it's true! Watching the video really shows the differences more then in the room.

[@thedonylama]

@@gravelrocks5588 call me crazy but I’ve gigged with both a lbx and the dsl20hr, the el34s makes a huge different in headroom and how loud the amps actually are. My output transformer on the lbx crapped out during a show. The Marshall is still holding up.

[@gravelrocks5588]

@@thedonylama You are absolutely right dank Frank the EL34 will give you more volume and bottom end

[@darrenwilliamsahs2211]

I own the Marshall DSL 20 and many other amps. It's not even close vs the EVH lunch box. Marshall all the way. Verse the EVH El34 50 or 6L6 (which I've owned), no. But against the lunchbox, Marshall no question. The sound on this video doesn't do it justice.

[@jimmyjames7946]

You're both sound great the Marshall sounds big and fat and really good.. however the evh lives up to the name stealth.. when playing with the bass player in a drummer that will cut right through in my opinion. I love Marshall in that zone many but evh for me 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@shredaintdead9323]

Both are great at different things!

[@rickcastillo3573]

Lol dude you sound like Cartman!

[@shredaintdead9323]

Haha cartman just happens to sound like a negative troll 🤣

[@fewart]

Marshall better

[@rabzo16]

EVH youve just been smoked.

[@danc3746]

Marshall

[@smith8281]

Marshall