5 things to consider when buying or replacing your shower pump

George explains most important things to consider when buying or replacing your pump and announces our Salamander pump giveaway.
(THIS COMPETITION CLOSED ON 12TH OF DECEMBER 2017)
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:25 Pump pressure
2:23 Pump type
4:00 The noise
4:38 Ease of installation
5:33 The price
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[@dashcamuk23]

Your comment of a 4 bar pinning you to the wall cracked me up.. Good call

[@newforestpixie5297]

Thanks for the work George. I first installed a pumped shower for our company ( british gas southern ) in 1988 when they deceived us ‘ Gas Service Engineers ‘ would make them even more money by turning ( some ) of us into Plumbers - beyond CH installation which frankly was the only experience with concepts such as “ head “ when dealing or fitting F & E tanks & often just connecting to the Cylindirect coils. They had a local company called ‘ Brightplan ‘ either make or least provide the board with the twin pumps and surface only mixers. 30 years on I still find stuff can catch you out but have almost given up finding spares for mixers - threw a heavy Grohe bar thing of 20 years away in spring but here’s my proud boast......my family endure a v basic bathroom and pride of place is the 30 yr old plastic brightplan mixer ( with disused reed switch ) - gets punished by teenagers every day and doesn’t drip although it’s never been stripped or re washered ! The pump leaked after ten yrs mind. Will watch and learn now cos the Salamander thing has pissed the owners enough to say “ get a new one Steve “ . Best Wishes fella from the new forest 👍

[@josht8288]

Nice to see a completely unbiased pump review. 🤔

[@mth280268]

Fantastic information, thank you so very much

[@dalejordan6057]

Excellent well worth watching great tips and advice

[@jmullen629]

great help and good advice

[@148rotten]

Hello I have a mira excel 903.33 wall outlet elbow leaking it leaks from where the round plastic head meets the tile are they easy to replace many thanks

[@garrygemmell5676]

I have a mains fed electric shower - anything you can do to increase pressure - i know you are not supposed to pump cold mains fed water but ive heard it can be done with the new sp1 12v magic shower pump as shown on Dragons Den!

[@farouqalsalih619]

Can you explain the use cases between a centrifugal and regenerative pump

[@miansaleem7259]

Thanks for your video, which is quite informative. I note from your video that for the Positive Salander Pump the outlet (showers) should be below the cold water tank. I have a salamander pump RP75PT installed in the loft, which is for 2 showers (A & B), the cold water tank is about a meter above the pump. Bathrooms are adjacent to each other. After 2 months pressure in one of the showers 'A' has virtually stopped, however pressure in the 'B' is fine. When shower B is turned on, the water in shower A runs with pressure. I may add that I had the same sort of salamander pump installed in the same place, which ran absolutely fine for 9 years. When replaced this problem has come up. Can you please help me as to why this problem has emerged and how this can be fixed? Thanks.

[@Paddyh39]

My pump has air in it and I probably need to be replace. The pump was fitted under the tank storage and o ver the hot water cylinder. what type pump should I replace it with.enjoyed your u/tube

[@vtwin1600]

When fitting a salamander pump, does the power source need to be on a specific circuit or can it be powered from a std 13 amp socket

[@rizvanahmed6087]

Can I fit this to a combination boiler ?? ( boiler is downstairs and the shower is upstairs !

[@zeus5298]

I'm guessing these would have no effect on a second/top floor flat above a cafe, which on the bottom floor takes priority over the water pressure, so when using the shower it goes scolding hot and cold when they use taps downstairs. It is on a Main Street too, so assume the water is coming from the mains on the street.

[@paultavener559]

Very helpful

[@shouwill]

The dimension of 600mm from the tank alone will not be sufficient particularly in marginal cases to determine whether a positive or negative head pump will suffice. Understanding that -ve head pumps are generally far more expensive ensure you measure the gravity cold and gravity hot feed flow rates and their combined flow to ensure manufactuer minimum pressures to initiate the respective pump flow switches to operate. I have learned at considerable cost...

[@sabrinagarrett3271]

Is a Standard Stuart turner monsoon a better pump?

[@charliepearce8416]

Hi there. Had a really strange problem I can't work out. I changed a leaking hose on the hot water inlet side and since replacing it the cold water side of my twin impeller pump no longer draws water through. Only the hot comes through. Driving me bananas!! I have had the cold water inlet connected and the outlet hose disconnected. When I turned the pump on and the shower turned to cold water only no water passes through the pump, whee you would expect it to flow from the outlet port, just nothing. Any thoughts? Impeller issue, Sensor issue or something else?

[@carlmajor4454]

I have low hot water pressure can I put a pump on my tank for this pl

[@mteresavitoria7953]

Can this things be fitted with a combi boiler??

[@trevkeay5555]

Been putting in pumps for nearly 25 years. Just got another Salamander smoked motor after only 2 1/2 years. Nearly burnt myself on the motor, it was so hot! Just waiting for Grundfos replacement on next delivery from Anchor Pumps . Salamander used to be great, stopped putting them in about 3 years ago, now replace with Grundfos for a cheaper swap or Stuart Turner for the bigger budget. With Salamander negative head pumps, Check the expansion vessel is pumped up to correct pressure, as they OFTEN LEAK out air, sometimes straight from factory & defo later!! ;-)

[@malachy1847]

Had a new rental apartment with a plastic Salamander pump servicing same for Unvented pressurised Hot water Cylinder and showers, lasted Three Years, the Plumber told my Letting Agent that he had replaced loads of same in those Apartment Blocks and suggested a BRASS Stuart Turner Pump continued to chug along without issues sold the apartment two years ago and at that stage it had been in there for fourteen years, could well be lashing away still...

[@jamesvdv0]

I would put reliability as the no. 1 feature. Unfortunately, Salamander pumps do not have this.

[@Zeamus634]

What if you don't have a hot water cylinder or cold water loft tank?

[@arfanjhangir8465]

Hi great vids. I was after some advice I have a Mira Advance shower. two red lights at the bottom of the unit started flashing, One warning said 'WATER SUPPLY and the other said RESET and also bleeping. any idea what the problem is please? Many thanks

[@TW-mp8zx]

arfan jhangir sounds like the water supply to the shower is too low..

[@unclebob8419]

Do seals fail on these pumps and then leak? I don't really want to put one in my loft if it's going to eventually leak

[@ogdo9204]

Yes

[@iancampbell582]

You get what you pay for is very correct so do yourself a favour and install NOTHING but Stuart Turner pumps.I have witnessed many Stuart Turner pumps still in perfect operation and over twenty years old.Plus the majority were installed incorrectly.Any other pump badly installed directly off the hot feed wouldn't last five years.Pay the extra for quality and save a fortune in the long run. Thats my good deed for today.

[@krizunabia3529]

Hiw can i fixed my shower uncontrolled heating.. (max heating)

[@tokenizegames]

What if power is on but only goes off when turning the knob into cold or high or eco?

[@theresawelch5761]

Hi Shower Doctor, I have just had my shower cord reconnected, it had stopped working, I now have a red neon light permanently on is that OK please

[@Chrsiarahann]

Hi We are looking to buy a shower pump. Some of them state that they boost the hot OR cold water, and some of them say hot AND cold water. I'm confused. All we need is a pump to boost the pressure of our shower. Also, out hot water tank is on the same level as the bathroom. Can we still fit one?

[@fastasfox]

Do you own an electric shower that heats the water? ie is it fed by cold water only? or does your shower have hot and cold feed ie a shower with a pump inbuilt (power shower) or is it just a gravity shower ie a thermostatic mixer bar etc ? The pumps that say Single on them boost one or the other (one inlet 1 outlet). The ones that say twin will boost both hot and cold (2 inlets 2 outlets) making the pressure pretty equal....ideal for a mixer shower. When the shower is on the same level as your tank or higher (both on the same floor) than you need a negative head pump, if your shower is lower than your tank ie your tank is in the loft and the shower is downstairs then you would require a positive head pump, but there are pumps that do both, but it will state this. You cant fit a pump to the feed of a shower that already has a pump on it though. Ps I'm not a plumber but this is my understanding how it works.

[@ciaranduffin2837]

My landlord got this pump in October but the water pressure has dropped now only dribbles out the shower what can I do

[@Bibliotechno]

Hi George. I would like to boost my hot and cold water pressure but what I can't figure out is what happens these twin impeller pumps when hot side ONLY is ON for e.g. shaving. In that scenario is the cold side of the pump pumping against a closed cold tap and damaging itself. Or does each side somehow impel the water separately? Ta.

[@crimsonsunshine264]

S Gardner Same I would also like to know the answer to this too! 🤔🤔🤔🤔??????

[@alanleea1644]

You have missed one important feature, flow rate. You need to check the flow rate is sufficient.

[@ameerahme]

Hello my shower has stopped making any pumping noise whatsoever it is silent and no water is coming out. Is this due to the shower pump failure?

[@johnsheehy6172]

Well, it's not a shower pump success.

[@HelloKittyFanMan]

Why would we even need a shower pump outside of an RV? What happened to good old water towers?

[@kryptoniteee]

You said you have many more videos planned, but this was the last video made. I never won the pump either.

[@BWLIM]

Lol

[@alexanderdrago9852]

The impeller of salamander pump is built without bearings and after max 3 months will be very noisy .Shit quality .I don't know about that model of 300 pounds

[@sunkat76]

How do you rate Grundfos? (I only have one for the CH system) Which pump would you recommend for a 3 bed house with 2 mini power showers?

[@alexanderdrago9852]

@@sunkat76 it's good 2-3 bars pressure of pump but don't buy cheap pump I mean that of 100-150 pounds.Buy some of 300 pounds and speak with the plumber to check if the pump has bearings because otherwise In max 6 months you may buy new one .I'm now to the second pump salamander and is low like quality and to noisy

[@petercoughlan103]

Couldn't agree more salamander are rubbish I've a grundfos 3 bar for over 4 years never had to look at it since it went in.

[@alexanderdrago9852]

@@petercoughlan103 I bet grunfos is much better .I changed two pumps salamander in 6 months .Shit chinese quality

[@joehodea331]

Alex Dragomirescu it’s that bad? I need to replace mine ASAP What to buy as only Screwfix and tool station open

[@eddyedwards4274]

I have a salamander shower pump it is so noisy I hate it.

[@alexanderdrago9852]

Salamander it's shit pump .After 3 months my pump doing a lot of noise.This pump was built without bearings to the motor and it's shit

[@LabRat6619]

Salamander pumps are disposable because they are crap at doing parts for them!

[@gerrykeenan2585]

Their junk were good one time now all made in china fail fail fail best pump at the moment is a stuart turner still made in england bit expensive but u pay for what u get hope they can stay in eng and not go to china and put cheap chinese parts even if company's go to china for cheaper lab why dont the still build to their specs and not chinese specs money money