Norfolk vs Virginia State BOTB 2018 NSU vs VSU Battle of the Bands

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2018 Norfolk State University vs Virginia State
Labor Day Classic Battle of the Bands
LDC BOTB
Trojan Explosion vs Spartan Legion
NSU v VSU
Marching Band
Drumline Battle
Percussion Section
Norfolk, VA
August 31, 2018
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[@jetsoverboston]

VSU doing their best drumline movie fight scene reenactment LMFAO

[@boldassbrother118]

For the last time, the spartan guards did too much let it go

[@jetsoverboston]

Pha'don Smith you the one replying to a 2 year old comment

[@rljproductionsinc284]

@@jetsoverboston people may not know but the spartan guards guard the band.

[@jetsoverboston]

@@rljproductionsinc284 exactly, mainly there to guard Hot Ice but they will throw down with anybody who crosses the ranks lol

[@rljproductionsinc284]

@@jetsoverboston 💯

[@GVocalz3]

Didn't know VSU's drum block was performed in memory of a fallen member, that made the incident so much worse.

[@jamesgrantiv80]

All jokes aside both did a exceptional jobs! Another group of kids off the streets and doing productive things. Great job VSU and NSU.

[@SAC010]

Off the streets? Who said that?

[@dre9926]

1:34:15 Did you just step to another band? Under NO circumstances should you be stepping to another band, unless you getting ready to END YOUR MARCHING CAREER. Shout out to Devon

[@i.n.c.fromthetopropes3465]

VSU was getting real emotional...Spartan Legion do that to you.

[@fountainmedia4683]

The Legion HUGE AF, and they sound absolutely amazing!

[@Sigmattic1914]

The Legion still not at full capacity this year. However, they are getting there.

[@cahmauriii5441]

Whats the song name at 1 hour

[@trueblue8962]

@@cahmauriii5441 I lied it's Kevin's Heart

[@gods._musician8847]

People gotta understand that the "SPARTAN GUARDS" aren't flag boys... The snare player was literally breathing on top of the woodwinds heads. They get to close all the time and this same thing happens all the time. Yes, spartan guards run up to push them back. It was agreed that they wouldn't get to close, and the guy got way to excited and got to close... they know the deal. It is what it is.

[@757cbarringer]

Cobi theSaxophoneman exactly....they try it every year...and the Guards shut them down every year! #Behold

[@briataylor8985]

Tell em !

[@TJB1060]

They needed that gospel after that brawl 😂

[@johnh8705]

Legend has it that the dude wearing the camouflage shirt is still running for help.

[@NSUMDFS]

Props to ShowtimeWeb for the quick upload!

[@cjdehrealj]

I saw this fight on snap 🤦🏾‍♀️ isn’t it common knowledge that band members DO NOT step to other marching bands? Especially the drum line?

[@snobbypolitics7792]

VSU flags are rally good. NSU's band dance was lit af!

[@fountainmedia4683]

Sorry, but that VSU snare drummer who walked over into the Legions personal space @01:34:10 instigated this fight period! He had no damn business going over there entering NSU personal space. And btw, for those who'll feel I'm just taking up for my school, I'm not a NSU alum. I'm a SU Juke alum, and trying to bully people never works! Stay in your own lane. That goes for all bands, and dancers as well. SMH!

[@niiabladeyotu5514]

VSU has suffered & is suffering for what that due did. What a shame.

[@fall04highgradefunk85]

Would have never happened if Harold J. Haughton or Mark W. Phillips was band director!!!!

[@derekhawkins1383]

What the hell is going on with the percussion section?! There are shouldn't be any fighting at the battle! 😒

[@lknightt]

They both did great 💯👍🏾

[@tyaja2009]

So nobody noticed how homeboy almost dropped that bassdrum 😂😂😂😂🤦🏾‍♀️ I hate VSU so much

[@SuperExio]

Am i the only one who saw the VSU bass drummer nearly drop their bass? Smh

[@joshbanton1934]

SuperExio i did, when I was there i was like tge inly one that saw it

[@tyaja2009]

3 months later and I just peeped 😂😂😂🤦🏾‍♀️

[@SonicSupremeSGT3]

Being that I am a percussionist from Richmond, Virginia and that I know some people from VSU, I know that the rivalry has always been over which band is better. VSU has done similar stuff to NSU, according to which this video proves. Now, the fact that VSU is doing basic drum cadences and doing technical stuff gives it a more Orchestral/Afro-Latino feel in their music selections. That, plus in this video, VSU had stale routines from the girls in contrast to Norfolk State. Now, the way Norfolk State's Spartan Legion were in back battery and brass sections were, they sounded very even due to how they spent a lot of time in band camp more, whereas with VSU, the brass section was mousey while their back battery was loud, making the frequencies off. That, plus the lack of discipline from VSU in how he fired off at NSU's back battery shows how scientific in drumming Norfolk State is in the manipulation of drum sonics. Now, if Norfolk State's back battery got to them in Go-Go like that, imagine if Virginia State University lost to Michigan State University, which will be humiliating for them. Why do I say this? Because Michigan State and Norfolk State both comprehend and study the manipulation of drum sonics, to which nobody knows about. Virginia State's Trojan Explosion has been taught a few things about noise leveling, but not in detail when it comes to musical buildups. Nonetheless, the arrogance from VSU and confusion came out in that clip.

[@Ifonlyyouknew1976]

I'm sorry VUS started this mess. IT was a friendly battle until that drummer crossed that line. All bands no you don't cross that invisible line.

[@SupervillainDW]

Whew chile the CIAA...

[@derrick1889]

Whew chile the MEAC

[@TooSaxy_4ya]

Lol they don't represent all of us haha

[@HZOT2023]

VSU act like they want Smoke NSU act like they want to give it to them

[@ezrar9715]

Thank you

[@tyaja2009]

Number 2 had something to prove 😂😂 he mad his mans dropped them sticks. Should’ve practiced a little harder

[@johnh8705]

That DJ messy af lol

[@plwilliams1983]

Love this! Wouldn't it be crazy if we had like an Allstar Tuba Battle? Each section can have their best 30 players who marched anywhere from 2000-2020. Everyone gets 4 Fanfares. At the end of the battle one big mass performance of the fanfares most schools have played. It would sound like the ground is moving having so many great players and chords so thick. Hey anything could happen. What yall think?

[@leadgenerationdc]

Good Information

[@readthosefg854]

I see you with them sacks nariyan 🗣

[@jaydenkang4683]

Yess 1:02:50 😂 they’re playing my queens songgg 😂

[@tyaja2009]

That transition into be scared gave me life 😩😩

[@tyquanlamb2966]

TJ at what time marker

[@jadenkennedy3238]

Nsu got the best "neck"

[@kennethwatson2296]

NSU bones sound like booty by themselves. They had 20+ bones and still didn't do as well as VSU bones. Numbers don't mean anything if you don't have the sound quality to back it up. Both bands did great though minus the fight.

[@ItsAllLove4Real]

BEHOLD...THE GREEN AND GOLD!!!!!!!!😍💝😍💝😍💝😍

[@titanone5594]

Bottomline...VSU drummer should've never stepped to NSU like that. Mufuckas up here saying NSU was wrong for DEFENDING. Y'all know if somebody stepped to you and your friends on the street like that you'd do the same thing the guard did and if you say you wouldn't, you lying!

[@mikeliagoure79]

anybody know the names of these songs

[@Icn2013]

Why is their so many distorted parts in this video?

[@johnh8705]

It was live, shit happens.

[@SupervillainDW]

copyright issues

[@mikemoe7033]

Just like the movie

[@haroldmorning8996]

Straight beat down by my Spartan legion

[@lwbhslgy6722]

The fuck vsu drummer thought this was? The sole purpose of the Spartan Guards (OG) is to protect the band and whip ass when necessary.

[@darrenphillips5960]

Did the trumpets battle

[@jeremiahjenkins688]

They get smacked on every year and now they wanna fight

[@kingjokerful]

Jeremiah Jenkins them soft ass flag boys started that bs. And nsu block was TRASH so...

[@TellTheTruthAnt]

kingjokerful at least they didn’t drop sticks

[@kingjokerful]

Anthony Pierce I’ll take two dropped sticks over a boring block 🤷🏾‍♂️ that was the WORST block I’ve ever heard from nsu smh I expected way more than that.

[@gods._musician8847]

Who gets smacked? And that snare player got to close and was pushed back. It is what it is. We not fightin for that. We were lit on our side until that happened. Lmao smh, VSU folk mane...

[@gods._musician8847]

Yea those "soft ass flag boys" put in work on anyone who gets to close. They are guards, not flag boys.

[@7uptown5bomber78]

It’s called the spartan legion for a reason just kno that vsu had no chance from the time they got off the bus let not fake the funk let’s be real and the legion gaining size every year once we get back to full capacity it’s a wrap

[@jaimontamccurty9928]

What’s the song at 55:16

[@jillianstierwalt8072]

Jaimonta Mccurty best part

[@cahmauriii5441]

Does anyone know the song at 1 hour

[@kristianruffin3782]

Kevin's heart

[@marcustaylor5130]

That won't no fight... They dont fight no more... They inbox and DM now..lol

[@haroldmorning8996]

Be original damn look like one of our old set. You have talent work with it.

[@haroldmorning8996]

MDFS I Am 86

[@isaiahbangura4421]

The fight was unneccessary. The sticks had rolled under one of the woodwinds chairs and he was trying to get it.

[@ElDonDiesel]

1:52:48 I have neva eva seen them act like this. Fucking up the microphone and shit

[@mystrothebeatlayer911]

Where do both schools get these ridiculous Neck arrangements? 🤦🏿

[@haroldmorning8996]

VSU band best section is they tubas wow need your numbers up little band.

[@jamesgrantiv80]

Harold Morning we don’t use alumni

[@trueblue8962]

@@jamesgrantiv80 You speaking on VSU or NSU's behalf?

[@jamesgrantiv80]

True Blue VSU. My cousin play at NSU and he told me that they use alumni sometime to battle. VSU has never used alumni.

[@jamesgrantiv80]

True Blue VSU. My cousin play at NSU and he told me that they use alumni sometime to battle. VSU has never used alumni.

[@trueblue8962]

@@jamesgrantiv80 no we never march alumni, probably someone who's just coming back to school and they're older but never an alumni 🤦🏾‍♀️smh

[@marcustaylor5130]

And nobody threw a punch

[@chicolove8098]

Vsu some bull....

[@aaliyahcoleman4658]

Both bands did good but from an outsider looking in, I'm leaning more towards VSU for the win. NSU fanfares were below average. There were 15+ trombones, and twice as many tubas as VSU, but you could barely hear them, and some of them weren't even playing. NSU has the size, but VSU wins in sound quality. Also NSU did a little too much dancing during their hype mix rather than actually playing, but that's just my opinion.

[@misterdee1117]

Aaliyah Coleman I disagree wholeheartedly. NSU sound was both superior and louder. I think that the song selection for fanfares were worse than VSU (which did great for both the Bones and Baritones). They also packed power FOR THEIR SIZE. I think valid arguments could be made since they sounded good but your justifications reaching.

[@jamesgrantiv80]

Mister Dee Thanks! VSU were powerful for our size. I did enjoy listen to NSU playing!

[@jamesgrantiv80]

Mister Dee Thanks! VSU were powerful for our size. I did enjoy listen to NSU playing!

[@justinellis4100]

Mister Dee NSU won only the flag and drum line sectionals. And only won the hype mix band sections. I was there. Of course NSU would be louder and sound more full as they outnumber VSU 2-1. It was a great battle but slight edge to VSU because of NSU numbers advantage and the clear wins in majority of the sectionals.

[@jamesgrantiv80]

Justin Ellis couldn’t have said it better!

[@jeremiahjenkins688]

They need to fight they drum instructor instead of nsu

[@nichea6984]

Jeremiah Jenkins first of all NSU started the fight sweetie thank you.

[@jeremiahjenkins688]

Nichea’ bro didn’t have any business going to NSU side

[@trueblue8962]

@@nichea6984 it was an agreement that vsu wouldn't get to close and nsu wouldn't get too close. So shhh

[@nichea6984]

Does it look like I care ? No nsu still started it . They was mad because VSU was playing better . All NSU was doing was dancing and trying to play louder sounding a hot mess

[@trueblue8962]

@@nichea6984 it doesn't look like anything cause I can't see your face 😑 but okay nigga it's proof in the video and I was sitting right there wen they nigga walked up on us. Like I said he broke the agreement that neither of the bands would get to close. And yk damn well Virgin State is some trash, Nsu sounded amazing. The arrangements were better and more coordinated. And lastly before I go, a band is supposed to have : dance routines, nice song selection and good tone. All that nsu possess. It's okay though you're ears probably aren't trained and you're probably just tryna stick up for your school 🖤👏🏽 pride is key but too much will kill you

[@jamesgrantiv80]

50/50 battle! I say hype mix and some song selection go to NSU! VSU took drumline, some song selection and sectionals.

[@michaelmorris9696]

That's funny because VSU dropped sticks, not to mention attempted to play NSU standards and screwed em up

[@jamesgrantiv80]

Michael Morris Mistakes happens! A show or performance will never be perfect! Hell Bethune Cookman even makes mistakes!That doesn’t play a factor in my judgement. Plus your arrangements aren’t even that high standards.

[@KapitolKartoon09]

What song selection did vsu win?

[@cuteclickz5731]

VSU DID AN AMAZING JOB... and proved its​ not in THE NUMBERS!

[@KapitolKartoon09]

Damn lie

[@jamessantiago2907]

Funny that everybody is saying NSU goes hard but they are the only band with a security team....or apparently even needs security for that matter....either way, great music programs with a great performance from both sides overall!!!

[@NSUMDFS]

You don't understand the concept of the Spartan Guard

[@AKINGSKYD]

NSUMDFS none

[@jamessantiago2907]

I actually have a somewhat understanding and respect the part they play and honestly looking at the video, I'm 100% glad they took the actions they did based on the actions of our snare playing od-ing...I'm lightheartedly speaking to those talking serious trash because now their security is doing their job rather than whoever jumping in if they personally felt THAT threatened

[@Caliber707]

Santiago Productions LLC LMFAOO you say that like the Guards are hired professionals, they're students too, and it's no different from a brass player or other auxiliary stepping in to help their band member in a conflict, you just sound dumb

[@jamessantiago2907]

@@Caliber707 def don't consider them actual security similar to I wouldn't consider you a prince just cause that's your name... read the other replies and get out your feelings lol....I'm actually quite cool with many former Spartan guard members who sat on the other side of the gym with me during this same battle....I've already stated who I was directing that statement toward.... reading is fundamental Mr. Prince...good day, sir

[@zaishaw6602]

Man the spartan guard be out here tweaking folks 😂 they need to calm down lmao 😭😂

[@tyaja2009]

Zai Shaw they doing their job. The rule was to not get to close and he walked passed the drum majors so he was clearly out of line so he got beat tf up

[@isaiahbangura4421]

@@tyaja2009 he was getting his stick from under the chair

[@tyaja2009]

Isaiah Bangura I was sitting over there and there was no stick 😂😂💀

[@SAC010]

VSU won for the simple fact NSU was 3x the size and didn’t give 3x the sound. They sounded like they were the same size bands 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@vivianhubbard2442]

Steave A who fought was that,VSU need to do more recruiting

[@SAC010]

@@vivianhubbard2442 why? When the small band just as loud as the big one? 😢

[@MrEhu3]

Although Norfolk State closed the show the way you supposed to Virginia State won

[@tyaja2009]

Eddie Hughes the lies 😂😂💀 they did no such thing

[@niiabladeyotu5514]

VSU copied NSU drum cadences & drum line steps. I was here watching them record NSU last year & they weren't doing anything near that. They straight copied & everyone knows it.

[@quietstorm3574]

Nii Abladey Otu Vsu will never copy of Nsu, Nsu was big as hell and sound loud asab but that's all they had on Vsu

[@niiabladeyotu5514]

@@quietstorm3574 If you look @ what VSU' s drum line has done in previous years & last year in particular not only does it not match it's not even remotely close to their style or history. Take a look at any of NSU' s tunnel performances & you will see that the continuity is ever present. Better yet compare what they tried to do this year with what NSU did last year. Also when you take a look @ last year's NSU's entrance last year, make note of the VSU people intently recording them. The proof is not only in the pudding but on video as well. They copied. #facts

[@haroldhancock5223]

If you watch VSU old videos you will know that they been playing those traditional cadences for years and none were NSU

[@SonicSupremeSGT3]

@@niiabladeyotu5514 From Richmond, VA, a percussionist myself and I know people from VSU who haven't publicly said that. Some of the people in VSU have rivalries from multiple schools in the surrounding counties, Prince George, Chesterfield and Dinwiddie, along with the cities, Petersburg and Hopewell. VSU always had a jealous and lazy spirit with them... ESPECIALLY when it came to NSU and many other colleges. If Michigan State University's Drumline battled Virginia State University, they would have lost to Michigan State due to the pristine discipline and how technical Michigan State is with one Go-Go influenced drum cadence. However, Norfolk State had more proper hand placings and more styles pulling out of the hat, even when their Go-Go cadences were fluent. Virginia State, on the other hand, was sloppy in hand positions of drums like that. What you spoke was true facts.

[@fall04highgradefunk85]

Pitiful

[@cog9244]

I think the fight was staged. We know better than that ..

[@gods._musician8847]

ChaNKila LaR'REse Lol please, no conspiracy theories😂 It wasnt staged

[@Caliber707]

Nope, VSU always get like bratty kids when they come to NSU, just the time they took the disrespect too far

[@cog9244]

@@Caliber707 Damn

[@isaiahbangura4421]

@@Caliber707 He was getting the stick that rolled under the chair

[@jerryt6605]

They act like high school bands 🤢🤢

[@stevebonds4698]

So instead of the university doing something about it they turn the other way. Those band members should be either suspended or kick out on both sides. No call for this crap what so ever. So now again they know they can get a way with this. This makes the university look bad. I would never send my kids to a university that handles situations like this, this way. Unbelievable. I guess we will see this crap happen again next year.

[@mystrothebeatlayer911]

This was the dumbest, funniest, weakest, and exciting botb I've ever seen but Virginia State was with that straight WHAT UP?? 😂😂