SHRED ER or Bug A Salt 2.5/3.0? Which to buy?

[@KevinMah-ol5on]

Great video! I have a couple things to add. I've had my 3.0 for a couple years now. Bug-a-beam: totally worth it. Helps if you need to reach or shoot at an angle where you can't really aim with the sights. And if trying to take out something large, you can be sure to be more accurate getting it into the centre of the spread. Came to same conclusion as you. Get the 3.0 if that's the only one you get. The Shredd-er is great if you have larger pests (like wasps) to take out but besides being a big too powerful for indoor use (or against something with a finish you care about), you'll need to use up the CO2 once you load it because it will leak over a few days. Whereas the regular Bug-a-Salt is just pump when you need it. As for window screens, I inadvertently came across another test. Tape a sheet of aluminum foil to the screen then shoot it from different ranges and see how far it punches the foil into the screen. The issue is if you shoot an insect on that screen, you might have a more difficult clean-up job if you punch it too hard and squish it in between the screen wires. Hope that helps someone with a purchase decision. 3.0 with Bug-a-Beam will likely cover 95% of use cases for 90% of urban folks.

[@hawkenman.549]

I have a Benjamin pump up pistol in .177. I put a little tissue in from the breach and then pour a little salt down the barrel. Keep the barrel pointed up. Works great for those annoying deer flies. No Co2 cartridges to buy. Just a thought.

[@hawkenman.549]

@champer slimmerthannone The barrel and components are made of brass. I’am not talking about a lot of salt. Just a pinch. And you can always swab the barrel after use. I’ve been doing this for over 50 years with no problem.

[@alemeplease]

Thanks for putting out a video on this product. I tried to purchase this only to find out that it was sold out. Congratulations on taking the plunge and getting one while you could. Who knew? Great video and demonstrations, and great editing right out of the gate.

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

Glad it was helpful!

[@gabe8138]

Might be too late they are back

[@collint4247]

Good job Average Joe! I can decide which product I wanted to buy. Thanks!

[@WesleyEvan87]

I love my Bug-A-Salt, I't does the job perfect.

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

Agreed.

[@realearly12]

You had me at the slow mo exploding dog poo in your first video. I did the same thing when I first got my 2.0.

[@dakotahrickard]

I was thinking about that Shred-er. You know what would make it a solid addition? A regulator valve to determine the strength of shots. It could even have positions. Paintball guns do this, and an updated model with a regulator would have a solid purpose against, say, just buying a Crosman Vigilante and some salt cartridges.

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

Dakotah Rickard that is actually a really cool thought. I wonder if that couldn't be something for a future iteration. I would imagine a possibility for a future model. You should email them, they are pretty responsive. Or maybe come up with a design yourself. I bet you could come up with some good KZbin material with that one, not to mention actually selling it. I am still a newby with the airguns. It was kind of a COVID thing for me as I couldn't get ammo to get to the range and reloading components (especially primers) were just as scarce. So I started playing around with the pellet guns (I can't do bb's because of the pool.) and then the Shred-Er came out. Thanks for watching and your comments. I read them all. 😁👍🏽

[@dakotahrickard]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 I really appreciate that. I wish I were more of a maker. I'm afraid I'm neither particularly handy nor able to design well for 3-d printing. I'll give e-mailing a try. I really like the airgunning hobby, and saltgunning is a useful extension of that hobby. It's also really nice to watch your videos as a low vision user. You narrate what you're doing, which means I can pretty much follow everything. Please be encouraged to continue making your videos. And don't be afraid to expand into other content. I love the salt- and air-gunning videos you put out, but I also appreciate your personability and your content delivery. That is to say, I like watching your content because of the way you present it. As a final question for you, if you don't mind, What's the mounting system used by the BugASalt guns? Is it Pickatinny or a standard dovetail? Thanks so much.,

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

@@dakotahrickard Thanks for the kind words. Bug a salt has their own proprietary railing, big and plastic 😁. That is why you may notice people rigging laser or other sights with other methods of affixing aftermarket items. The bug a salt laser mounts to the orange plastic muzzle and their camera mount is to their rail. the rail is kind of an oversize Pickatinny.

[@dakotahrickard]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 Haha. Wonder if it's Nerf compatible! That'd be fantastic. It'd fit their marketing MO, in my opinion. Thanks for the solid info.

[@helpfulliving6394]

Great review! I love my bug a salt product!

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

Me too!

[@matthewmcmurtry83]

I notice the shredder is very much based on a famous Crossman CO2 Revolver design. I wonder if the cartridges would potentially work in the Crossman revolver as well which can be found much cheaper.

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

I have been working on a comparison video, just been to busy at work to have a chance to do test firing different cartridges. A couple viewers commented that there was an issue with synchronization when using the shredder cartridge in the vigilante.

[@heep34987yt]

I would like to see you shoot the screen with the shred-er at more of an angle instead of straight on. A lot of my shots are done at an angle. I don’t think the salt will pass through the screen as easily on an angle say somewhere between 45 and 75 degrees.

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

I thought I had already replied, but I don’t see it here. So if it shows up twice my apologies. I will run a quick video when I have some free time with the shred-er on screen at angle. I am curious as well. The actual filmed angle was probably ~15 degrees. Not quite straight on but not a serious angle. Keep an eye out. I’ll try and post sometime over the next week.

[@bendibuono9930]

I love my 3.0 with bug beam!!

[@wholloway517]

The black fly 3.0 is great! I have problems with swet bees landing on my legs! Not anymore! I shoot them off my legs usually with one shot! No it doesn't hurt! The bees run for cover! Until I lay my gun down and pick up my phone! The loading port holds enuff salt for 80 shots without a reload...with just iodized salt from the shaker! It's a blast!

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

👍🏽, I do the same with the mosquitos at dusk, I let them land on my legs and shoot them off. Easier that trying to swat them in the air. I can feel it but it's not painful, my 11 year old tried it once and said it stings a lot, didn't break the skin, but she said she'll pass on future attempts. 🤷‍♂️

[@billredding2000]

Thanks for thinking of the insects' health by giving them their RDA of iodine, as they really can't find it naturally in nature and so usually their iodine levels are deficient. However, I think it's probably a little rough on them to administer it in that manner? -- BR

[@thomascleary865]

Quick question - do you really need to take out the cartridge

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

I don't know about the long term health to seals if left in. There seems to be a lot of differing opinions in the comments. But I have left them in for a week and still had enough CO2 to shoot through a shred-er salt cartridge. Another commenter said the same after a month. I am sure they all have at least some leakage, but I don't know to what extent that would be. Also we still have brand new seals, so as they age, I am sure that will probably become exacerbated. 🤷‍♂️

[@thomascleary865]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 Thanks.

[@PatrickGarretty]

Good video but can't believe that you never once mentioned the range of each shot. Not like that would make a difference ... right?

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

It is just short. 😁 Either of them . I am generally wishing a yard for either. Salt is just so light it loses energy pretty fast.

[@northyland1157]

not sure I would need to shoot bugs outdoors. Unless they are tomato worms

[@krschu00]

Which would you recommend for horse flies? They are agile fliers and terrorize me on hikes.

[@krschu00]

I watched your video but I'm worried I won't be accurate enough for the horse flies while they're flying with the limited shots with the shred-er. Or am i overexaggerating how hard it will be to take them down? I've never used a salt gun before.

[@danduhman1955]

How long has your CO2 cartridge last before changing?

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

I haven't actually shot a CO2 from full to empty in once sitting, but I can usually get at least 4 sometimes 5 before it starts misfiring. I don't know how much CO2 leaks from seal when sitting on the shelf in the SHRED-ER. I would imagine a little more use if used all at once.

[@XellosMetallium]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 that is my issue with co2, they empty overnight with my bb gun

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

@@XellosMetallium After putting up the Shred-Er for the week (I actually have a job during the week 😁) I usually still have some life left in CO2 cartridge. Keep in mind the Shred-Er is brand new, so I imagine the gaskets/seals inside are still in great shape, as with all airguns, I would expect that to diminish over time. I have noticed on other videos that a drop of airgun oil is placed on the top of the CO2 cartridge when inserting, I believe this may be to enhance the seal and prolong the life of the gasket, these videos/sites often emphasize getting the correct oil, so as not to break down the gasket. I will have to look into that in the future. I am pretty new to air guns as I turned to them recently when regular ammunition became scarce and reloading supplies (mainly primers) disappeared from the shelves. Thank you for your comment.

[@xswang-man]

Price alone makes a great difference.

[@ak-488]

If you have allot of flys just reload your empty 12 GA shells with sand.

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

I have actually been having the opposite problem lately. For some reason I have so far had a really light bug year. I don't know where they all went, I have been having to bait for flies, or ... You know... wait around the 🤫 💩

[@ChipmunkDale]

I was hoping for some more poo explosion, but seriously, can you give us a demo with a laser aiming device?

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

That one is up next 🧐, I have it in the package waiting for some free time. I'll make sure to blow up some 💩 poop. Maybe a bug or two as well.

[@sloppy2nds321]

I bought one today . Haven't seen a fly since . Lol

[@sloppy2nds321]

I shot a nat and a stinkbug.

[@weedian710]

Would the shred er bust a fluorescent light bulb? Guessing it would.

[@m.v.3754]

Only 1 way to know

[@manko717]

From what distance

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

They are all close distances. I shoot most of my bugs 3 feet or less, beyond that and you may hit them but it may not take them down.

[@Ian.Oldmate]

Australia 3.0 is $84 but everything in Australia is expensive

[@abelthesaint]

👍

[@cjangula77]

The correct answer is BOTH!!!

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

Thanks for watching and making this valuable point clear. You are absolutely correct! No arguments here. I have a couple bug a salts, a shred-er the vigilante that I shoot shred-er cartridges through and a salt SWAT so for me it's preaching to the choir 😁👍🏽. But for those out there that don't see the need for more than one 🤷‍♂️ Hopefully it helps, but you'll probably end up with both regardless 😁

[@cjangula77]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 my shredder is great for when I am sitting out on the deck as the quantity and size of bugs varies (flys, hornets, etc...). However, for a fly here and there indoors the shredder is just too much. I also don't leave my shredder pressurized long term either as I have found it to be hard on the seals. Thanks again for your work with these and thanks for the reloading videos as well!

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

@@cjangula77 Thanks Chris. I sounds like we use them about the same way. Inside, I am bug a salt all the way. I load up the Shred-er when I am either hanging out or working out in the back yard. Recently I have been leaving the vigilante and shred-er loaded with CO2, as I am curious how long they can stay effective, also I am curious how long before the seals start to degrade. I also am curious how hard it will be to replace them when needed. 😁👍🏽. Keep an eye out, Tony from @saltSWAT did a zoom interview with me so that I should have up soon. Really neat system as well.

[@tomquintero7583]

lol, only in America God has truly blessed this nation!

[@monica1811]

Amen!!

[@RjBenjamin353]

The shredder is overpriced for what it does and you have to keep buying the damn reloads and co2 carts

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

No arguments there. On the nose. Definitely a niche market.

[@genesanford9412]

both over $100 ....flyswatter ...$ 1

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

Actually the bug-salt is usually 40-50. But you statement still stands and is absolutely correct.

[@matt79hz]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 but how much fun is a swatter?

[@MacTechG4]

Flyswatter only really works on flat surfaces, whereas the air guns can take down a fly in flight or on a non-flat surface (like landing on the pull chain cords of my ceiling fan) The price issue is a given though, had I known what I know now, I’d just stay with my old Benjamin 392 air rifle and figure out a jury rigged salt setup

[@genesanford9412]

@@MacTechG4 I remember 'Benjamin',s .... hell , i gotta real nice , solid Luger style air pistol , from 'Healthways ( later changed to either Crossman , or Daisy , not sure)

[@ryang3225]

Yeah but I’ve taken out flies on the ceiling with a bug a salt haha

[@benjamindobalina7493]

u luv talking

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

Funny thing, when you are staring at a camera and there is no one around, you kind of feel like you have to fill the silence. I totally get the comment. Thank you for watching even with me yapping away 😁👍🏽

[@Mike-ju1vl]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 right. I just got the 2.5. Didn't open it yet. Is the 3.0 that much better or will this be enough to destroy flies on my balcony?

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

@@Mike-ju1vl They both work great. Just some differences in sights and safety as far as I can tell. Otherwise both are great.

[@Mike-ju1vl]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 thanks for the reply

[@Rooster1Cogburn]

"SHRED ER or Bug A Salt? " Bullshit. A Shredder is a Bug A Salt.

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

Well, it definitely is made by Bug-A-Salt, but Bug-A-Salt gave each salt gun there own name. Bug-A-Salt is the (only) name given to the original pump gun that they make, that and a model designator 2.5 or 3.0. They (Bug-A-Salt) refer to the Shred-Er as Shred-Er making the distinction between the two guns. This can be checked on their website when purchasing. So you can Call BS, but take it up with Bug-A-Salt if you think there should be further distinction between the two models. Appreciate the comment. Thank you for watching.👍🏽

[@Rooster1Cogburn]

@@justanotheravgjoe1314 Emmm... 2.5 (or 3.0) is the model just as Shred-ER is a model.

[@justanotheravgjoe1314]

@@Rooster1Cogburn Makes sense, I will change the title to reflect that. 👍🏽 I am still in the mindset of the original Bug-A-Salt, it wasn't the 1.0 it was just the Bug-A-Salt, then it was modified. So I have been thinking of it that way ever since. Thanks for watching and commenting. Much appreciated.

[@uTubeHQ]

Good video. TOOOOO much talking. Get on with it. You talk too much and I will not watch the whole video.