How good is MAX WEIGHT in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe?

how important is the weight stat? this determines how far you get bumped by other racers, and how much you bump other racers!
How to get Better at Mario Kart: • FULL Beginner Guide | ...
combo used:
bowser / bone rattler / monster tires / wario wing glider
all maximum weight characters/parts:
bowser / morton / petey piranha / metal mario / gold mario / pink gold peach
bone rattler / tri-speeder / steel driver / GLA / standard atv / badwagon
monster tires / hot monster tires / ancient tires / metal tires / gold tires /
wario wing / plane glider / gold glider / paraglider / super glider / waddle wing / hylian kite

[@RedFishyG]

every baby character will try their best to stay at least 100 meters away from this kart combo

[@arcgabbro10]

But their efforts would be worthless because this combo is BEEG!

[@erwan6227]

The pdf combo

[@arcgabbro10]

@@erwan6227 can't wait to see this in r/CursedComments

[@jennifercollier392]

As a dry bones player, I totally agree.

[@tougyoug3133]

Lemmy is smart he stays 99.9 meters away

[@ErdemAltunhan]

If you ever run out of video ideas, you can always try out the DRIEST combo on Dry Dry Desert= Dry Bones + Bone Rattler + Ancient Tires!

[@YouthfulCrusader]

so dry it will make you put on lotion lol

[@capbar]

love this idea

[@Captain_Wiiyt]

Glider?

[@ErdemAltunhan]

@@Captain_Wiiyt Maybe paraglider, looks pretty dry

[@Captain_Wiiyt]

@@ErdemAltunhan ok

[@DaShikuXI]

I wish that the weight stat made you more or less resistant to projectiles. For example with a min weight stat a red shell would knock you out for 2 seconds, but with maxed weight it would only be 1 second. Something like that. It would give weight much more importance, and it could essentially function as the opposite of acceleration. acceleration gives you faster recovery, whereas weight would lower the downtime.

[@Frostfire26]

That would be cool and interesting. It would also add a lot more variety to the meta.

[@dudono1744]

Boo pipes from MKDD would be like "idc about getting hit"

[@Shortcat321]

Others have suggested a similar idea for the invincibility stat. I think it makes more sense there! I think weight could have other uses like differences in gliding, fall speed, and vehicle size (right now there are 3 vehicle "weight classes" that determine size, but it has nothing to do with the weight stat)

[@hiHiHiHiHiHiiiiiiiiiii]

@@Shortcat321 although the weight stat is shown not the invincibility stat tho?

[@Above_Avg]

Facts

[@miracledang3025]

Found a moment where having high weight helped you: At 14:45, your weight saved you from being bumped off the boost ramp.

[@Shortcat321]

Oh that's amazing! I didn't even realize. If i fell off the ramp, I would have to accelerate without the boost panel too!

[@Shortcat321]

I just found another one: 10:58 I bumped the white birdo so badly if you watch the mini map

[@chubby3726]

@@Shortcat321idea for next video. Mario kart but I wait 5 seconds at the start of each lap. This is different than the normal wait at the start because now, you have to be 5 seconds ahead each lap instead of catching up 30 seconds. Can get progressively longer too.

[@mamoonarshad304]

11:40 I'm not really that familiar with mario kart, but I think the weight also helped here I think

[@memenazi7078]

@@mamoonarshad304completely walled a speeding yoshi and knocks him behind himself

[@SunshineRey]

7:54 this whole sequence is just brutal. He gets hit, mushrooms to recover and uses his star to perfectly time a shock dodge, which he chained to get a boo. The blue shell shows up behind him and he uses his boo in fourth so he had a 1/3 chance to steal first place’s super horn, which he managed to get. After that, he made a push for first place and won without getting hit by the line of bananas and the person in a star. Truly a Baby Park worthy moment.

[@selfloathinggameing]

You make a good point about stats being "clustered" like acceleration and weight always being opposite. Some of the old MK games had more interesting stat lines, I remember in DS Luigi had both high speed AND acceleration but low handling and weight, making it super unique to control.

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

Yeah I really wish they would do that sort of thing with the stuff in this game, with the part combining system it would make for so much build variety. There are only really two examples I can think of, those being the slims which are speed tires but also have high handling, and the splat buggy being relatively high speed but also low weight, but by and large it’s MT accel and handling grouped together, or speed and weight grouped together, which is a shame

[@walugusgrudenburg3068]

It's such a missed opportunity because it would be so well suited to the mix and match parts system!

[@arthilas_]

Also, weight had a lot more impact in MKDS - getting bumped by a heavy like Bowser or ROB could easily send you waaaay off the map.

I remember hearing that Dry Bones has good handling. Is that true?

[@conqueror181]

The thing with this combo is that you effectively have a classic muscle car. Fast in a straight line, weak around corners. To counter act this you need to drift earlier and not do anything fancy. These setups work in the low level because you can just use the speed to run away. The higher the lobby they fall off as players can use advanced techniques to compensate for lack of speed.

[@Eden-kw1kw]

Shortcat uploaded, it’s gonna be a good day today. 3:40 No, they just couldn’t handle

[@Sebastian-105]

bet

[@Shortcat321]

Diddybuggy has better handling for sure

[@elementsofphysicalreality]

That blue shell on the last race was pretty good ngl. To stop on the end like that perfect timing.

[@YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies]

Actually, if you look at the minimap, you can see Luigi spinning out before getting by the blue shell and later you can see him driving through the blue's explosion because he had I-frames. I don't think this is entirely luck on the Luigi player's part though, because he never got chased by anything besides the blue shell in the cannon, meaning they probably saw like a banana or something lying around and ran into it for the I-frames.

[@Waltezer]

-I don't want that track Wins -Oh ! I want this track Loses twice in a row

[@autismandgaming4532]

Bone rattler has to be in the top 5 coolest karts

[@OtisCluck]

Yeah, which makes it a shame since it’s not very good

[@Radical_Russ]

I did a small project where I ranked each vehicle part and character on versatility (after looking at stats) and bone rattler ended up coming dead last

[@Shortcat321]

@@Radical_RussBone rattler is actually tied for worst in the game based on stats haha

[@Coolyuonh_GD]

@@Shortcat321what it tied with bone rattler?

[@tggamez1165]

@@Coolyuonh_GDprolly badwagon

[@sepandshoar7230]

5:48 "Oh hi rod"

[@GURGLEGUY12345]

"Hey Nicky..."

[@LordFurafura]

Thank you for your uploads :) I've learned so much more about MK8 from your videos and I really like your overall positivity! It made me realize that getting mariokarted is actually pretty hilarious and nothing to be mad about 😂

[@CookingKoopa]

"I've been waiting for a rainbow road." Instantly demolished.

[@cys_bacon]

Anyone else bop their head when Wii Rainbow Road comes on? Such a banging track

[@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy]

I went to a MK8 Tourney yesterday and used your Old Main with B.Rosa ,Bidy and whatnot, I lost but I had a great time and did better than I thought I could, thanks for the great content

[@bubba7598]

Have you tried Baby Rosalina, The Duke, Monster Tires, and Wario Wing? It greatly increases your speed, and from what I can tell, maintains a mini turbo similar to Rosalina, Mr Scooty, Roller Tires, and Paper Glider. That build I found to be pretty fun too.

[@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy]

@@bubba7598 Thanks for the advice, I'll try it out & see if I like it😁

[@Elfilinfan]

13:31 I do NOT appreciate Toadette slander. She deserves love.

[@zesnowpea6347]

Mario maker players disagree

[@Elfilinfan]

@@zesnowpea6347 I PLAY MARIO MAKER

[@Shortcat321]

It was for hitting me with the single fireball on the previous race 😭

[@Cobalon]

She is anti union and thinks an entire subspecies of toad is good at manual labor

[@Elfilinfan]

@@Shortcat321 you are not a true Toadette si- fan.

[@handmetheparachute]

Nothing wakes me up more than seeing a ShortCat video in my feed

[@alanshaw6161]

I'm with you on shortcat uploads!

[@leogranberg332]

You mean fatcat

[@Alankyler-.-]

No that was FatCat

[@OliverLovesMariokart]

You finally free from the yoshis teddy buggy’s bumping you!

[@melindadancso5251]

ShortTiger was in the room

[@creadzz_]

7:40 "Every turn basically is a U-turn" (J Perm moment)

[@CimemaPrduction]

Bruuuuu gan 12 moment

[@heatheretaithaha]

8:39 WHY DID THEY PUT A 1300 PLAYER IN *THAT* LOBBY 😭😭

[@thewhitebear2585]

Hey shortcat I love your vids, I’m actually training for Mario kart to beat my teacher and you don’t even understand how much you’ve helped me improved!

[@alanshaw6161]

We live for shortcat uploads! love watching an amazing driver try all the combo's

[@jack48382]

Never expected Shortcat to say that he's cooking while playing lol

[@PhotoSang]

Caseoh if he was in mario kart

[@maxmaxmaxfelixfelixfelixlo1052]

Great minds think alike

[@peepeeosca489]

Huaha 😂 that is a funny momento ❤❤❤

[@ToprakOzcelik-h4o]

Don’t disrespect Caseoh

[@ajm4288]

@@ToprakOzcelik-h4oIt’s funny though. Even he laughs at the memes

[@RoseyChan420]

​@@ToprakOzcelik-h4onah he gets the bit, it aint at his expense since he's cool with it

[@snowyfolfskyroo2739]

Youre voice reminds me of someone i used to watch, and that solely made me subscribe. Nice video dude!

[@michaellee4276]

This has to be JPerm. Exact same speech patterns and voice.

[@notshortstack]

Hi shortcat! love your videos. I was wondering when you were going to do the intermediate guide. Also, I would personally love collabs with other creators or more competitive mk8d. Keep up the good work!

[@ThatNoobKing]

The purple mini turbo for this vehicle really sounds like Patrick Star screaming

[@samdilophosaur9787]

13:31 I love seeing people be introspective about their strategy, this was really cool

[@xaldrortenderofthevats8948]

1:25 that Piranha plant is a legend

[@kevin_anderson750]

This combo weighs less than caseoh

[@cursedcat6467]

Bro probably still gets inhaled by Caseoh on the regular

[@ALASTOR101.]

BAN HIM!!!

[@loopienooper]

This is sad

[@volt5094]

Anything weighs less than caseoh at this point

[@unkirbyjosuke1904]

0:45 you could say... that the Pac is Back!!

[@MattTheBrilliant]

POV: You notice that J Perm is good at Mario Kart

[@CimemaPrduction]

We need DYLAN WANG back.

[@soykiokin]

I love so much the names you have in each challenge🤣

[@tromedlovdrolmai]

Been enjoying your weird stat tries, maybe you could also do some viewer submitted ideas for videos? If you do do this, my main combo and suggestion is: Rosalina (character) Flame Rider (bike frame) Crimson Slim (Wheels) Paper Glider (Glider)

[@bubba7598]

That combo sounds pretty interesting! I think I might try it! Here's what I've been running recently. Baby Rosalina -The Duke -Monster Tires -Wario Wing You should give it a try! I find it pretty fun.

[@Coolyuonh_GD]

K’ Ludwig Mr. Scooty Blue standards Cloud Glider

[@ilovepotstickers]

Try this combo, but only try to make the yoshis and other lightweights get the last places

[@jepompom455]

Average CaseOh Mario Kart playthrough

[@coc_daily]

hyrule and the last race was literally legendary!!!😂😂🔥🔥🔊🔊

[@King_Boo_88]

Whenever shortcat uploads a video, I'm just happy. Good on you my friend 👍👏

[@VK4502B]

Drives his nuts off in the last race, gets Mario Karted at the end. That's rough!

[@yalborap]

21:00 "It is my time for redemption" Proceeds to enact Bowser's own personal hell

[@yilu4675]

You bumped Shortiger on Sydney Sprint 13:55

[@reshawshid]

For those trying low handling builds, you will need to employ typical racing lines in order to make it around tighter corners. That is to say, when approaching a sharp right turn, make sure you are as far to the left as possible before the turn. Then, guide your kart to the right into almost hitting the inside corner of the turn, and after that, exit the turn on the far left. By doing this, you can soften the curve of a turn, therefore making it easier to maintain speed around otherwise tough corners. You can see Shortcat employing this on Baby Park. He starts on the left of each turn, goes near the right-side barrier halfway through, and pulls out to the left. This is typically not often useful in Mario Kart, but is critical in more intense racing games.

[@joshmyer9]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's thinking "Wider lines! Wider lines!" through this whole video 😂

[@bubba7598]

Thanks for the tip! This'll help me a lot when I use the Highest Speed combo. I find it to be incredibly fun to try and pass everyone at the end!

[@reshawshid]

@@bubba7598 Honestly, Shortcat was the only thing that convinced me to go for something other than top speed, so I agree. My typical racing philosophy is, "If I fail, I want it to be because I screwed up, not because the car couldn't outrun other cars."

[@johnjgeorgejyessir]

great video as always btw when is the pro guide coming out

[@jamalialladia]

Next video is "I found SHORTTIGER"

[@TofuCate]

Shoutout to shorttiger that didn't get the recognition he deserved

[@notarthur313]

bro casually ignored short tiger

[@StarkMaximum]

This combo seems really fun, even if you have to play _very_ differently from how you might be used to. As someone who loves playing big heavy characters in games, I think this is something I should keep in my rotation for fun races, maybe even practice with it a little more than others to get better at it.

[@nox_ious84]

using this combo will just make you an absolute menace to everyone around you

[@thebwahboi7616]

My man literally went from 2nd to last in less than 9 seconds 23:43 to 23:42

[@nouche]

3:20 - I believe the play was to use the mushroom to cut the turn on the left

[@defreezee]

Bro needs to do a how good is full gold set

[@caliburnleaf9323]

The fact you can still place will with this combo is a testament to your skill at the game - especially bagging.

[@millencolin543]

Can we just point out how good the editing is in shortcats videos😊😊

[@mysticmaya9426]

"my goal is to not hit a car" me everytime im out driving

[@lokory]

Well, here is the sequel :)

[@IamReyver]

Shortcat pokevolved into Garfield, btw love your content

[@Miniya]

now that's a big ahh combo but it looks so cool!! i love bowser visually but i really struggle to use the big and heavy characters 😂😭💀

[@princesscadance197]

I always love when you get that one vehicle or character in any game where a single stat is so ridiculously overinflated that it’s near, or even outright at max. Like I play Ace Combat 7, most aircraft will top out at around… 1000? DarkStar with maxed speed upgrades easily exceeds 3000, it’s comical.

[@rixrobin]

16:00 i have the same philosophy on baby park except apply it to loosing. Doesn’t count because of how luck reliant the course is. 😂

[@Shortcat321]

Yeah winning and losing on that track just don't hit the same as any other track

[@potatowithpc238]

18:59 absolutely destroys a goomba, like he’s dead for ever he’s never seeing his family again. “woa”

[@williamzwaan2250]

Shortcat, try the blue shell challenge, Where you pull a blue shell and smuggle it to first and then blue yourself.

[@NoahGray-zk5sk]

Try and get the blue yourself wr

[@wesleyem3]

"Once you're good enough you should be at a point where you no longer have to look at the road." I apply this same principle in my driving IRL as well

[@danielgonzalezjimenez5677]

I read the title as MAX HEIGHT and was like "is this taller than the Master Cycle Zero?"

[@Sebboebbo]

Da short king is back baby he neva miss

[@plentyofpaper]

I ran a similar build in F-Zero X. It was... a fun gimmick. And the stat was more useful. Instead of just improving your bump interactions, weight actually helped you damage other vehicles when slamming into them. And if a vehicles health bottoms out, it doesn't just get put back on the track. It doesn't get to finish the race. So out of 30 racers, I would often finish like 6th to 12th. And you might have something like 12 cars finish the race. I made notes of anybody that was ahead of me in the rankings so I would be sure to smash them to bits the next race, which would basically neutralize them as an actual threat. Optimal play? Absolutely not. But It was really fun to have a racing game strategy that wasn't just "cross the finish line first."

[@JoshAdams-hh1rt]

I miss you jperm

[@Determinacion01]

Bowser is like... 'What are you looking at? I'm not fat; I just have big bones

[@luniveon]

Shortcat, you should try the Isabelle, City Tripper, Triforce Wheels, and Paraglider combo… I love trolling max Japan VR and beating them when I have 5k. I’ve dodged so many back spam by snaking and it’s not even funny (don’t mind me constantly bomb and banana sniping tho)

[@michaelwhalen9084]

i was confused because i thought i had seen every shortcat video until i saw it was posted an hour ago 😭😭

[@3twibles4sweetrevenge]

Best thing bout mkds is you could see toad having his comeuppance everytime you bumped him

[@BrandonChen-sdef123]

Shortcat: “I’m holding my mushrooms” Also Shortcat: uses mushroom 2:21

[@rushsansityofficial]

"HE'S SO HEAVY!" - totally accurate bowser

[@EZAAAKC]

Great video man! Keep it up!

[@Bran-68]

BABE WAKE UP SHORTCAT POSTED

[@ripulletan]

I still want that video where you target one person to make them lose.

[@ihavemanyskills]

Can you do a video or even a series, with suggested combos? My favourite is dk+sports coupe+ azure roller+ plane glider

[@avizandum5770]

hey shortcat, i was wondering if you could try uploading a video of you playing mario kart wii, it would absolutely make my week!

[@reubenhandel210]

I want to see Shortcat's story arc turn heel and him deliberately cause chaos in every race

[@bubba7598]

Shortcat: The Symbol of Chaos!

[@anto8722]

That raimbow road race was a rollercoaster of emotions lol

[@mrwillis6790]

7:30 comeback? This is baby park. There are no comebacks, only misery

[@Kirb_lol]

Another w vid from short cat, keep it up!!!

[@Kirb_lol]

Also you gotta lose weight now or your gonna stay as fat cat for ever

[@CptJistuce]

The end of that Rainbow Road run... I see Larry got his getting-hit stat from his dad.

[@WeegeeWarrior75]

I’ve actually played this combo and I quite like it, since it’s the only one Bowser looks comfortable sitting in.

[@brownky3]

Every since subscribing to Shortcat, I now wonder about the MT stat of my shopping cart at the grocery store...I see drifting opportunities on my way to work...I always have my eyes peeled for hidden shortcuts while running errands... it's not my fault!

[@Lyssa_Snowcloak]

Playing with ShortTiger for most of your session and too busy to recognize them, tsk tsk. I know you were distracted, it's ok :)

[@TailsKindFox]

Maybe for a future video you could use your subscribers combos

[@time3282]

Shortcat: big boy :me THICK BOYYYYY!!

[@Underr4t3d]

11:13 short tiger😮

[@SE7EN_EDITS]

Imagine this combo goes over the lightest combo

[@Claas-ty1se]

Video idea: Make a random kart combination, and try to get first. If you don't get first, randomize your kart again.

[@carkiplier3201]

If I see this combo more online, I'm blaming you Shortcat. Other than that, great video showing how important the weight stat can be without you even knowing. (I in fact, have way to many accounts of getting bumped offroad.)

[@carkiplier3201]

Gotta let Koopa's offroad traction stat shine somehow I guess...

[@Jwang0509]

You should do all of your hardest challenges in one video.

[@PlatinumComet]

If nothing else, Max Weight stat gets brownie points for looking like an absolute _unit_ among the Yoshi Teddy Herd.

[@onebear6504]

This combo looks so cool though. It may not be a good combo but it gets A+ for the looks! Which is arguably more important. And we finally got Garfield the fatcat! Longcat is probably coming soon. The anti shortcat that takes the longest pathing!

[@TrevorEricksonEpic]

Video idea: Play the older games like DS and Wii. I think that would be fun.

[@rogercameron6912]

"Can we get a front running track?" NEW DIRECTIVE: ALL FRONTRUNNING TRACKS. NO FARMING.

[@ianzhou7010]

You should try making a video about just playing with a bunch of other MK8D youtubers and using really stupid custom items (blue shells only, for example)

[@OrdanKarris]

THE THUMBNAIL... IF THERE IS AN ARROW POINTING TOWARDS BOWSER AND IT SAYS "PLEASE *BUMP* ME 🥴"... Bowser better have the wheelchair ready