How good is MAX ACCELERATION in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe?

[@newkira7010]

In your opinion, what would it take to make acceleration the best stat in a Mario Kart game?

[@Shortcat321]

Good question. There are a few ways: - Just make it better. for example, have the best accel combos get to max speed in 0.1 seconds. - Change the item distribution so that speed items (like mushrooms) show up less often. More attacks and less speed items = more reliance on acceleration. I'd hate this tho obviously 😅 - have sections of tracks where you need to stop or slow down to drive it properly. For example, a section where you have to get in an elevator and wait for it to open the door before you can go again. As far as I know, Nintendo has never had this drastic of a track design.

[@str4wb3rry13]

@@Shortcat321 I guess Battle mode would favor acceleration over mini turbo or even speed. I'm sure they have a completely different meta that online vs racing is oblivious to.

[@pokemastersalgaming8271]

​@@Shortcat321 Would Neo Bowser City count? There was a turn that I think is nearly impossible to do without slowing down

[@Shortcat321]

@@pokemastersalgaming8271 Only on 200cc. Even the worst handling combo can drive neo bowser city on 150cc without braking. But even on 200cc with brake drifting, you don't need the accel stat. Your mini turbo gets you right back up to full speed anyway.

[@henkiestudios5117]

@@str4wb3rry13 I always use high acceleration in battles

[@superfrubblez6123]

Clearly the luck stat is the most important one in Mario Kart

[@tonyis_lit1137]

Nah the combo stat is the best stat in the game

[@erickjesusburciaga5958]

Born of yall are wrong the best stat is the stat stat

[@Shortcat321]

That's why Lemmy is bottom tier 😵

[@roboverse6234]

in my experience, there’s no such THING as luck

[@thehotdogking7734]

Wait, maybe in the next mario game that stat actually becomes a thing.

[@dnalrah5567]

No, guys you see the best stat to optimize is your item luck stat. The worst stat on the other hand is the get hit stat, that one you have to make sure to minimize.

[@NathanielIanLewis]

You really should make a leprechaun mii to max out the luck stat LOL

[@The_Football_Nerd216]

I got max get hit stat

[@NathanielIanLewis]

@@The_Football_Nerd216 LOL same

[@dnalrah5567]

OOOH good smart!! I never think of that!!@@NathanielIanLewis

[@Shortcat321]

We need someone to data mine these stats. We already know Lemmy has the highest get hit stat tho

[@NathanielIanLewis]

I love how ShortCat is so calm and happy all the time, but then instantly starts seeing RED when someone of similar VR is playing in the same room!

[@Shortcat321]

It makes me C red

[@kieran9499]

@@Shortcat321 you keep making puns that bad and I might get a little short (cat) tempered..

[@jajajaun]

@@Shortcat321are you jperm

[@theperfecttroller]

@@kieran9499sheesh all these bad puns make me want to kier myself

[@shadeyfang8564]

You think he’s calm when he’s raging about someone saying acceleration is better than mini boost 💀🫵

[@rubikboi1998]

at 4:42 he completely nailed the entire lap while explaining the pros and cons of acceleration, mad impressive

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you!! Still working on doing complex maneuvers when talking tho 😅

[@TheNaturalGamer1]

That's ez

[@Miniduck9013]

@@TheNaturalGamer1🤓

[@Caisadilla]

'Weight is THE single most important stat as it determines the intensity at which you get displaced from a wayward tailgater or an ill-willed opponent." Boom

[@The_Juice14]

“Invincibility is THE single most important stat as it determines the time period of which you can not be harmed by malicious reptile encasings after previous fisticuffs.” boom

[@x_potato4081]

"Water speed is THE SINGLE most important stat as it determines how fast you go in underwater sections." Boom.

[@mr_derp858]

“Luck, determines how the other players do and what item is recovered from the various item boxes scattered around the tracks “ boom

[@slapdog7273]

why then why are all the light weight combos better than heavy

[@slapdog7273]

"why then why are all the light weight combos better than heavy" BOOM

[@mysticmaya9426]

No point in arguing with people like that. It's like talking to a wall. They're "always right". Also just drive what you want. Shortcat is a perfect example that skill can make almost any combo work anyways ❤

[@ultraofasolus7006]

"It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" - Bill Murray

[@pirilon78]

​@@ultraofasolus7006I added quotes to a phrase. Boom

[@Metrion77]

@@pirilon78 I added nothing to a conversation. Boom

[@pirilon78]

@@Metrion77 11:53

[@Metrion77]

@@pirilon78 Exactly.

[@tokothegecko]

I think acceleration is the most important stat, because I've never seen anyone win a race without accelerating at least once 🤔

[@Shortcat321]

🤔🤔

[@TP39_music]

​@@Shortcat321🤔🤔🤔

[@mythicalrock2486]

⁠@@TP39_music🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@TheGoodDoge]

@@mythicalrock2486🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@konsuno8143]

@@TheGoodDoge 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@ninjapotatolorf6237]

12:04 I recognize the layout of the article. It's from TheGamer. As someone who used to write list articles for TheGamer, I can vouche for the fact that their list articles are an absolute clustertruck of bs. Sure, you’ll find plenty of good ones here and there, but in general they don’t really care that much about the quality or accuracy of their lists, and are far more concerned with getting clicks and forcing their writers to work at a breakneck pace to produce as many articles for them as possible within a small amount of time.

[@omegahaxors9-11]

Max acceleration is brutal. If you can keep 10 coins you're golden but the instant you drop down you're consistently in the chaos. With lower acceleration builds you spend more time at the back meaning you're not getting hit by almost every single attack. Acceleration = consistency. If you're doing good you'll keep doing good and if you start doing bad, it will be nothing but bad.

[@Shortcat321]

Acceleration does help make things consistent. Max speed gives you some high highs and low lows!

[@pnut3844able]

Well that's just incorrect. I slaughter online with max acceleration

[@dudono1744]

@@pnut3844able That's the point of consistency. If you're good, you win more often.

[@eej1.07]

@@pnut3844able oh wow then where are you in the pro scene then? Not good enough I guess. Expected from someone who cites an article that ranks traction higher than speed LOL how about you post gameplay videos

[@ProXOblivion]

@@pnut3844able I hold the world record on bowsers big bean burrito, and I can say for a fact mini-turbo is the most important stat. 😎

[@whiptonguebulborb]

About that acceleration argument… that guy could potentially be lying about being from the N64 days, calling people ignorant while also saying ‘that’s your opinion’, they probably just read an article in the corner of Google that was published just for clicks that said ‘aCcElErAtIoN iS tHe MoSt ImPoRtAnT sTaT’ and left it and believed it.

[@hurricanessuck3832]

If they won with high acceleration, they probably don’t realize that High accel usually comes with High Mini-Turbo as well, and we all know mini-turbo is probably the most important stat

[@AllToastersToastToast]

And to be fair, the article in question that Shortcat found really is just made for clicks. The Gamer (the website said article was from) isn’t the best guide, since their main goal is money. I could see someone who doesn’t realize that (or doesn’t care) decide to either base their opinion on this article or use it to back up their own opinion.

[@aden_zhao3359]

the green shell dodge at 18:18 was so clean. he moved out the way since the daisy was about to chain items

[@Shortcat321]

Wow, I didn't even realize I was doing that! But yeah I've gotten much better over time with dodging people's chain items

[@JosephHk743]

Hey that’s my build! I definitely agree about the pros and cons of acceleration. It was a similar in 7 as well with acceleration being good but not necessarily the end-all-be-all stat to focus on. Mini turbo is still one of the more important stats and that’s why you see many builds getting the best mini-turbo while also not sacrificing as much on the other stats. Good video and I’m looking forward to the no acceleration video! If nothing else, the Toadette combo is Cute.

[@NathanielIanLewis]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing! Toadette is the cutest!!

[@jismeraiverhoeven]

In ds acceleration was also very important together with speed, because acceleration decided how long your mini turbo would last while speed decided how much of a boost you got, so you wanted both to maximize miniturbo. Its why rob and luigi had the best vehicles

[@Tyspy97]

I’ve been going through a lot of anxiety lately and these videos have helped me stay calm. I love your chill demeanor compared to a lot of other MK8 KZbinrs. It also got me back into Mario Kart 8 and I have over 10,000 VR now!

[@BadPunZ]

I hope the next Mario Kart game has more customization, such as painting your kart or putting stickers on it. It’d also be cool if there were ways to change the stats of a kart without adding a way to make something OP, so I can play my favorite combination without having bad stats

[@Shortcat321]

In Mario kart DS you could draw pixel art to put on the front of your vehicle! I loved that

[@Chernobylkinsman]

I hope it has no blue shells

[@EithanPereira-bb9cw]

Mario Kart DIY coming on switch 2 trust me my dad works at nintendo

[@Wizdabest1]

"If I get hit it shouldn't be that bad" **Immediately gets hit like 5 times and ends up in 11th**

[@impetuouswinds]

this is what we in the biz refer to as "getting mario karted"

[@SuperCaleb283]

What I'd like to see in the next game is for miniturbo building to be attached to handling and mini turbo boost length to be attached to traction. This would make miniturbo less directly inherited from the two primary stats AND create a give and take between the heavy and light options. It would still need some balancing to create a game where both options were viable at low and high skill, but I think it would be a good step in that direction.

[@Shortcat321]

I want interesting combos, but it's always hard to balance variety while still having everything feel different. I would love to have some really funky parts that are bad but funny, just to make things different without making them overcentralizing. A high speed and accel part could have basically no other stats so it would slide around, get bumped, and can't charge mini turbos. But at least it's funny!

[@ViktorVityk]

Hello ShortCat!

[@Mariogamer1889]

I love how you’re explaining what you are doing in the race for new players/beginners

[@XsirbeansX]

0:31 they tested your acceleration lol

[@idavid8391]

11:21 Dang, he really thought he got you there. Totally roasted.

[@DaDerpHerd]

25:17 “Alright, kid. This means war!” *cut to him in the Koopa clown*

[@resonanceamplitude]

Man you and Smii7y have completely reignited my love for Mario kart (haven’t played in 6 years cuz studying), thanks and much love❤

[@ectoplasma1999]

Hey shortcat, I realise I'm one voice in a sea of many, but I wanna say that I always love your videos. Seeing that little notification of your uploads always brings a little bit of joy into my day and for that I'm super appreciative!

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you so much 😊😊

[@Furiousyt365]

this is the combo that got the full lap win 💯

[@Kyoobur9000]

On the topic of better stat diversity, I wish we had more heavy vehicles with good mini-turbo/acceleration. I’ve fallen in love with the Boo Pipes in MKDD and I wish there could be another vehicle like it in a newer game.

[@maybeqbe]

Shortcat is the type of person to just casually perform things that others struggle with without mentioning it

[@donaldglover2539]

@@Instanence bro why do you care so much your on like 3 other videos talking bout this lil bro 😭

[@MercuryPenny]

14:23-16:29 this entire filibuster hits the nail on the head so hard. ds and wii were really good about this and 7 kinda threw it away to try and make the game more balanced despite all the customization, and while i like having a balanced game, having that additional room for unique ways to play is really nice. as it stands, the only significant divergence from the norm in 8dx is inside drifting bikes, and when you compare that to the sheer variety in ds and wii *beyond* "fast but slow to recover with bad handling" vs "slow but tight handling and quick to recover", it's a little disappointing. speaking as someone who enjoys 8dx and wii about equally

[@Shortcat321]

Yeah this game is the most balanced ever, but I don't think balance really dictates with how beloved a game is. Mk8dx wouldn't be any worse if we nerfed the badwagon car really hard, because nobody uses that anyway. If we turned it into a drastically different vehicle that still sucks, then I think that adds to the game without changing the meta.

[@ItsJCrew]

You dare question the mighty authority of pnut3844able? Who do you think you are? He has played COUNTLESS hours of this game AND has played mario kart since the SNES. Just listen to his wisdom scrub

[@Lightning_XD]

Uh, I hope this is sarcasm…

[@ItsJCrew]

@@Lightning_XD The fact that you would even question this is absolutely ridiculous. Do you even know who pnut3844able is?? He is a player who has played COUNTLESS hours of mario kart ever since the SNES. He is THE authority on mario kart and the fact that losers on the internet would question him is truly pathetic

[@rohangardiner]

​@Lightning_XD how would it not be you dumb

[@angiedavidtheplayersofgame3912]

​​@@ItsJCrewThis sounds like your worshipping him, and also, it's not like we're all on their level- and if we've never played Mario Kart before, the terms can be confusing for new players. So no, they're not losers, they're probably just confused.

[@angiedavidtheplayersofgame3912]

​@@Lightning_XDI wish-

[@DEMERN]

regarding the idea of the next mario kart game having more diverse stats, there's one build i like to use in mk8dx that feels super unique compared to just about any other combo i've tried: Tanooki Mario Gold Kart Slick/Slim/Leaf/Rollers Peach Parasol the idea is that it maximises miniturbo while minimising traction. there are very few parts that have high miniturbo and low traction, and i've listed them all here (not including reskins, of course). it's just super fun to take corners with this thing, and tracks like Mario Circuit 3 and Neo Bowser City become an absolute joy to play. i think my favourite wheels to use with it are the leaf tyres, but it really just depends on how much miniturbo you want to give up for -traction.

[@jammo7370]

Mark Twain had the right of it 150 years ago: “never argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”. Never argue with a living dunning-kruger graph if you value your time and sanity lol.

[@DarthVincentiusOfficial]

I have actually been really liking adult Rosalina, Teddy Buggy, GLA tires and the Paper Glider. I like the usual meta Yoshi combo, but using GLA tires and a heavier character feels so much better to me.

[@Shortcat321]

I think the stats of that are really similar to waluigi wiggler, just with 1 more speed iirc. Personally I prefer a bit more mini turbo but it's a great combo! Insane invincibility stat as well

[@artimist0315]

I definitly agree with what you said about stat variety, though they would need to make all the stats more equivalent for it to work. I would also like if different stats encouraged different strategies. For exemple I wished high-speed high-weight stat would encourage you to bump more into people to basically knock them off the track, currently weight is only a defensive stat but it's still bad to run into people with high weight. It would also be cool if they made a set of kart without particularly good stats but with one gimmick, like one that allow you to get more of some item, a very bad kart but that almost doesn't get slowed down by off-road, a kart that has special flying/underwater properties ...

[@Juszp]

I love the progression from showing off the acceleration to fruntrunning with a little acceleration use to taking back the VR crown from some random Japanese player. Perfect.

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

It would be cool if in a future Mario Kart game, they had a similar system to MultiVersus where you could equip different loadouts to your kart, to boost stats etc. Im not a MK expert so I have no idea how that would balance out, or if it would make the game too complex, but hearing you talking about more fleshed-out stats made me think about it.

[@BrandonChen-sdef123]

What Shortcat has taught me: Best stat: Luck and Cute Worst stat: Get hit stat (Lemmy only)

[@jasonkamstra2983]

i have 2 ideas: -do a blue youself, where you bring a blue shell to 1st and hit yourself. it is required to hit directly you, not from the range -do a mario kart randomicer, it you will get a random character, car, wheels and glider. when you dont get 1st, that character dies, when you get first, you can receive a character. when you get a dead character as character, the video is over

[@hfido_]

You just made me think of something. Is it possible to throw a blue shell while NOT in first place, then get back up to first place and get hit by that same blue shell?

[@NathanielIanLewis]

​@@hfido_You just made my mind explode LOL

[@hfido_]

@@NathanielIanLewis yeah but that would kinda be a new edition of blue yourself kinda

[@jasonkamstra2983]

@@hfido_ pff maybe he first needs to complete the normal blue yourself 😂😂 im scared what kind of challenge shortcat will do in 2 years. Can i win by going backwards? :o 😂

[@AlfieTV__]

nintendo was like: "so you have max acceleration right". proceeds to hit you with 675 items in one race lmao.

[@mdmackint]

why is this combo criminally cute

[@DeAthWisH-li5ks]

another interesting stat that I think would be interesting to see brought back is the item luck stat from mario kart DS, this was a very controversial stat but i think it would be cool, like lets say you have high speed high acceleration/mini turbo, handling but your item luck would be absolute garbage, or maybe your item luck stat could influence what items you are even able to get at a given position like maybe if you have a high item luck stat you may get mushrooms in first place or less of a chance to get coins

[@ichbikkins]

really love your videos!! fun, cute, and really taught me some techniques to win. love how you react everything in the race!!!

[@BlopperCod]

I love how he calls out that guy, time to cyberbully him /J

[@DeletedSmile7]

Shortcut threw a whole race to bring up a KZbin argument True Legend

[@risingtoastcheesecake4730]

I think the issue is that acceleration is pretty much always tied to mini turbo. I would really like it if they changed a combo to have high speed and MT, but no acceleration and handling, I'd like to see how it fares both in 150 and 200

[@ArgentCoconut]

"It shouldn't be too bad" famous last words

[@str4wb3rry13]

It would be cool to see a video/videos comparing the smallest hit box vs the largest hit box. Largest hit box would technically be the highest "get hit" stat no?

[@Shortcat321]

Yes it would, but with a caveat. If I was playing the largest combo, it would have a high speed stat and I'd bag more, therefore getting hit less. And the small combo would try to frontrun and sometimes be too slow, therefore ending up in a middle spot where the attack items are. The worst combo (Lemmy steel driver and metal tires) has no chance frontrunning and no chance bagging, so I always find myself in the middle of the pack. Maybe that's why it has the get hit stat 😅

[@str4wb3rry13]

@@Shortcat321 you're right how dare I take the get hit stat crown from Lemmy? That's all he has.

[@Flame_Oragne]

"Get Hit is the single most important stat as it determines the rate at which you get hit from a wayward turtle shell or an ill-placed banana peel." Boom

[@zlothz]

Nice videos! Been learning quite a bit from them. To your point about stat diversity, they could also play around with certain stats affecting item interactions. For example, heavier weight = larger items; better handling = longer item duration; more traction = shorter 'stunned' animations. (Or something along these lines.)

[@jkae4795]

The pnut(brain) part of the video got me wondering, how long do you have in the game? I know it's easily checked and given your skill level I would assume you probably have a lot

[@pinguludd6586]

i really enjoyed the more talking centered video, very pleasant to listen to

[@DevyJrOfficial]

You know it’s going to be a good day when shortcat uploads

[@t1dalw4ve]

Stop spamming comments with nothing altered

[@galactic_cupcake8744]

bot

[@DevyJrOfficial]

I’M NOT EVEN A F*CKING BOT

[@bebabaloubop]

Can’t even comment what you think now days…

[@DevyJrOfficial]

That is what I think…

[@johanneshaukanes4531]

18:53 nice dodge! 💥 21:11 Bro that was epic! 💥 22:24 Things explode! 💥

[@usemorewood3184]

My personal favourite is keeping all the stats roughly even. I played DK on pipeframe before the dlc, but I don’t know right now. In 200cc it’s just enough to make the corners, so it’s mainly a fun thing. I’d definitely like to see how something like this stacks up though

[@coledavidson5630]

15:05 this is so true, when i first looked into the hidden stats this was ny first thought. Everything is so locked in, despite all the "customization" you can't really customize at all

[@walmensypalheta5364]

When you said " don't laugh" it was already too late.

[@hart7668]

Thanks for giving some love my girl! Toadette + Pipe Frame/Rollers + Peach Umbrella is my jam lol. Driving with that combo feels like balls to the walls on a razor's edge 😅

[@hfido_]

Hi! Yet another awesome video! I haven't finished it yet, but I'm already sure! Are you ever gonna do another "Shortcat Vs." format type video? As you said, you never practiced Vancouver Velocity, you could make a video on that!

[@Shortcat321]

I forgot about that honestly, I definitely could have done Vancouver but I already practiced it now. I still have tracks I am bad at like piranha plant slide and also I might do more for wave 6. I'll keep it in mind!

[@whacker01]

In Mario Kart Wii, Spear had decent acceleration and the best speed. If a track had no turns, spear would be great, and acceleration is important because on straight aways you have to wheelie a few times. If you dropped your wheelie (didn’t chain it because that’s like a 2 frame window) then Spear goes a LOT faster than Flame Runner

[@Suprixia]

My main combo has high acceleration and that is one reason I really like it. There jave been times where I would have lost the race because of getting hit by an iten but because i had the acceleration I was able to get the first. Also I am able to quickly start drifts or do tricks after getting hit which I really like. I feel like acceleration is helpful but isnt necessary

[@Shortcat321]

It's a very feelable stat, like mini turbo. Speed isn't so apparent, so you don't really sacrifice any fun by choosing low speed. I really like accel and mini turbo because of that!

[@Suprixia]

@@Shortcat321 so true

[@AdmiredCat]

What's the combo

[@Suprixia]

@@AdmiredCat when I wrote this comment it was baby Rosalina, Mr.scooty, azure rollers, and cloud glider

[@WhiphTikoto]

Their argument about acceleration is like saying in the old Mario Kart Wii “Weight” was the most important stat because every good build had a lot of weight. But no, it was the speed. Same with this, mini-turbo is the most important stat, the acceleration just comes with it. It’s still important but mini-turbo still stands on top.

[@DaShikuXI]

Even basic logic will tell you that acceleration cannot be the best stat. Acceleration only does something while you're accelerating. If you are at your minimum or maximum speed, or if you're decelerating, the stat does nothing. Considering that the vast majority of a race will be spent at your top speed, acceleration can never be more important than speed.

[@notion-y2670]

Funny how acceleration is kind of an unsung hero stat in that regard. The point of high acceleration is to spend as little of the race accelerating as possible.

[@Ilikefunandgames]

You're probably the only person I've watched who makes vine booms really funny

[@wiltos972]

Hey, I really like your king boo teddybuggy combo. Are there any characters with the same stats that I could use (or very similar stats)?

[@NathanielIanLewis]

Link and Rosalina have the same stats 👍

[@zaifir8119]

You can also try out the other carts with the same stats. Cat Cruiser has the same stats and Pipeframe, Landship, Streetle, City Tripper, and Varmint have the same Speed and Miniturbo stats. Yoshi Bike and Comet also have basically the same stats but are inside drifts.

[@Shortcat321]

If you go kamek + inkstriker, you get nearly identical stats but with a smaller hitbox. Honestly I hadn't even thought of that when I picked king boo. Kamek has the same or similar stats to Mario, Luigi, Iggy, Ludwig, and medium Mii.

[@Shortcat321]

And if you're willing to sacrifice more stats, try yoshi on blue falcon, or DK on Mr Scooty. Roller and cloud/paper glider for all these combos

[@mcgamerson6231]

Love your content! i was wondering if you could do a video about brake drifting, im super struggling with it and by watching your videos I see you doing it really well. Thanks for the great content

[@Shortcat321]

I talked a bit about it in the 200cc section of my beginner guide. Tap B instead of holding it, unless you need a quick and big decrease in speed. Besides that, I think just practicing it will do more than any guide since it's really just a matter of "how much do you want to slow down?" And tap B accordingly

[@mcgamerson6231]

thanks i was totally holding B everytime, its a lot better now lol!@@Shortcat321

[@HmmmmmLemmeThinkNo]

Something I think a lot of people forget is that play style and skill level are major factors in which stat is the most important. Mine mean that, for me, traction is the most important stat. There is no definitive tier list that applies to everyone. And getting up in arms about something like this is silly (although, it's better to argue over silly things, in my opinion, to strangers on the internet)

[@HmmmmmLemmeThinkNo]

I've just discovered that I can't edit a comment in a mobile browser x.x

[@stenanderson1695]

acceleration might be great but the get hit stat on this one was pretty high too

[@thatguybob-uf9cs]

A lot of videos make me laugh, but the argument makes it by far one of THE funniest videos I've seen.🤣

[@BlueThunderO7]

I wonder what builds are out there that have equally high Speed and Acceleration.

[@RemyWillard]

Bowser, Dry Bowser, Heavy Mii, Morton, or Wario as the driver (10 Speed, 0 Acceleration) or Donkey Kong, Roy, Waluigi, or Wiggler as the driver (9 Speed, 1 Acceleration) the "pre-DLC meta" stat class (which includes Wiggler, though he wasn't added until Wave 5 and is smaller than DK/Roy/Waluigi) must be used with a tire and glider combination of 2 Speed and 6 Acceleration City Tripper, Landship, Pipe Frame, Streetle, or Varmint as the vehicle body (2 Speed, 6 Acceleration) any vehicle body provided here will work as long as the other parts of the combo add up to 11 Speed and 7 Acceleration either variation of the Roller tires (0 Speed, 6 Acceleration) or Button or Leaf tires (1 Speed, 5 Acceleration) the Roller variants must be used with a driver and glider combination of 11 Speed and 1 Acceleration any glider (some have 1 Speed and 1 Acceleration while others have 0 Speed and 2 Acceleration) a glider with 0 Speed and 2 Acceleration must be used with a driver and tire combination of 11 Speed and 5 Acceleration Everything I've listed here can be mixed and matched for 13 Speed and 13 Acceleration, as long as the accompanying directions are followed properly. Hope this helps.

[@Shortcat321]

Wow, great info there!

[@BlueThunderO7]

@@RemyWillard Greatly.

[@naejimba]

One thing to consider is what the "meta" is depends on your skill level and the people you are playing against. Handling is a good example... the worse you are, the better it is for you personally; the better you are and the more you know all the tracks the less you need it. So I could see if a player is making a lot of mistakes or is not using items defensively then acceleration becomes more valuable for them. Mini turbo also has more value if you know how to drift properly... being able to maximize this gives a great deal of value. What these players need to understand is that if you improve on these things it changes your stat priority.

[@derpious267]

Can you do minimum traction on only slippery tracks?

[@panderater2650]

Ive actually been using this combo for awhile, heck pretty sure i used it before i saw this vid, as always love the content dude

[@fowox_]

I have an idea; do max weight, i wanna see how it affects the game play!

[@Shdhbsjsvv]

That’s basically max speed

[@bobosaurus331]

@@ShdhbsjsvvMax acceleration is basically max handling but he still did it

[@Shdhbsjsvv]

True

[@GracelynBuettner]

I love how shortcat actually writes replys, idk I just think its sweet

[@Plutoious]

I GET IT YOU LIKED YOUR OWN COMMENT

[@DevyJrOfficial]

Get this comment pinned lmao

[@swampboyblack5628]

How dare u

[@Fiko_e]

I liked my what?! Im talking about my food!

[@Shortcat321]

It's called self love 🥰

[@123skaia]

Ok 5 year old kid😊

[@jasonkamstra2983]

whenever a shortcat video comes out im super super excited :D

[@t1dalw4ve]

how important is acceleration? (while frontrunning)

[@swampycompy6370]

Yes! You beat C!! I was actually getting a little too loud at the end and my parents came into my room to yell at me...

[@Klffsj]

Hey Shortcat, as always I appreciate your video! But, I don't think it's very appropriate to call out and rant on a random commenter who isn't very tactful or rhetorical with their arguments. I can understand quoting a comment or two, looking up the quote they pulled, then criticizing that published article; but, reading off a rather annoying comment thread to bash them in front of thousands of viewers is not very entertaining, informative, professional, mature, or nice. Respectfully, I ask that you please keep from doing this in the future. Referencing and even arguing against comments is still great, just as long as you keep it positive. Looking forward to your next video!

[@Shortcat321]

Thank you for your input. I didn't think that far when I chose to do it, and I just thought it would be funny. On one hand I see your point, but on the other hand these comments are public, and it's always up to the commenter when to stop commenting, delete their comment without a trace, or switch to acting more civil. I have shown comments frequently in videos and in shorts. Plus this person was VERY confident that they were correct. I would never go to this extent if someone was wrong but still civil and/or open minded or showed uncertainty. Anyway you make some good points and I'll think about it more before showing comments in the future!

[@Absolutepower7]

Nothing makes me more happy than seeing Shortcat upload.

[@thefolder69]

the commenter writes like a 13 year old who is speedrunning a paper that's due the next morning for 8th grade english... if this guy really is old enough to have been playing since the SNES, that's truly unfortunate.

[@yittythegod1127]

love your videos man, I love the information you tell us about mario kart 8 deluxe and on top of that you have amazing commentary

[@pokeguitaristjake6300]

Talked about in the 13 or 14 minute section. The R.O.B. Kart is a huge example of this, and is one of the best Karts in the game besides Dry Bomber and Egg-1, the Mini Turbo Boost I think is 3rd best in the game but the Speed Stat is much better than those other two Karts, I too wish it was like what you were explaining, but still dependent on the weight class and character, but giving some heavier weight classes better Mini Turbos with some vehicles, and same with light weights and mid weights, to further increase the diversity of what is being used in the next Mario Kart game and it's meta.

[@Tom_Maxwell_Maxwell]

My fav Channel rn 👀 Greetings from Germany 🤝

[@BirdknivesGameplay]

So it seems the acceleration stat decreases your hidden luck stat 😅. Nice videos btw, you’re so chill. I usually don’t watch much Mario Kart and I’m a casual player. But I’m enjoying your stuff. Keep it up my man!

[@AshLordCurry]

I don't even play mario kart why am i obsessed with those videos

[@jbomb7867]

Honestly I think when most people say acceleration is the best stat they're just lumping mini turbo in with as the same stat. Even people who are aware that they are technically different. If we didn't know there was a mini turbo stat in the code we would all just say high acceleration gives better mini turbos anyways. In fact I think that's what Nintendo was going for.

[@mamzugasti]

I true full reaction at 25:22 - "you join them... you where suppose to defeat them but you join them >:"v " *deletes shortcat from my custom mii's* Nice vid btw 👍

[@nuke_hazard18_23]

I completely agree. I wish there were more stat variety.

[@baconmunchh]

the comment war section was amazing lol, maybe having short funny story sections in some future videos would be a cool addition :P

[@kogmawmain8872]

10:00 I was watching that video like an hour ago or something and read the conversation Also you pinned the comment lmao, you're a legend

[@shadeknight6537]

The fact that that commentor was insistent that acceleration was the best stat in all Mario Karts despite Flame Runner Funky Kong being everywhere in Wii is proof that he was lying about having played Mario Kart for as long as he claims. It's a pattern I notice among intermediate-level players, not just in Mario Kart, but in a lot of games, where they have a lot of theoretical knowledge, but only a little practical experience, and so they take a lot of things at face value. Using acceleration for example, yes, on paper it helps you recover from being hit in Mario Kart. In practice, however, these players overestimate how much acceleration helps you recover and underestimate how often you can get hit, thus rendering acceleration moot.

[@SirBookwriter]

MT and Speed (in that order) are doubtlessly the two most important stats, there's no denying that. Everything else right now is not only a matter of opinion but also what gamemode you play (online races vs time trials). In online races I think the stat order would be 1: MT 2: Speed Massive gap 3: Accel 4: Invincibility 5: Handling 6: Traction Even more massive gap 7: Weight Accel and Invincibility are both made useful by how often you get hit by items, but I think accel is more important due to it being utilized much more often. Invincibility is still such a weird stat to me since I started playing before it was introduced, so this one is the placement I'm least confident in. Handling and Traction are both very track-dependant online, but Handling generally comes into play more than Traction. Because of lag, the weight stat is basically worthless online, considering you could be playing max weight and still get bumped to oblivion by a baby on a scooter. Weight also has no functionality outside of interaction with other racers, making it even more worthless. In time trials Handling and Traction go in #3 and #4 respectively, because those stats decide what combos are selected for tracks a lot more than acceleration does, and yet again handling comes into play more than traction, but not as much as online. And then invincibility joins weight in the 'worthless' section, unless there's a track in wave 6 that requires damage boosting through a shortcut.

[@SkyeB7]

13:37 a good time to turn off smart steering (or other settings) is while in a mini-turbo or shroom boost because you cant slow down

[@Shortcat321]

You can slow down a little bit in a mini turbo (as seen in my 2nd Hyrule circuit race on lap 1), but yeah you can't slow down in a mushroom boost. I usually try to turn it off during a mushroom boost, glider, bullet, or if I get hit. But airtime and mini turbos are 2nd best.

[@nathanmcmahon8144]

15:21 To be fair, there IS the Luigi vaccuum kart in MKDS that has extremely high speed and acceleration. But they made it a little less broken by giving it a very low "Luck" stat that they implemented in MKDS. I think it'd be difficult to replicate this in the next iterations of Mario Kart without reverting back to set karts as opposed to making your own combos

[@BumblyBear]

The most important stat in every Mario kart game is the fun stat. If your not having fun you are losing.

[@TobiDiggs]

Babe wake up, shortcat posted!

[@nouche]

10:18 - It’s not “completely incoherent”~ It makes sense considering they didn’t know the meaning of meta in games

[@MrCheese270]

Congratulations on winning after waiting one lap! This is totally the right video!

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

There really should be a free for all mode in where you can set your racer stats to anything you want. Max everything or put every thing to zero.

[@Muffin0536]

other characters you could use are baby rosalina, baby mario, baby luigi or isabelle another kart you can use is mr scooty other wheels are azure rollers other glides are parafoil, parachute and paper glider there probably is more

[@ShinyMew76]

The way I see it, Time Trials and Online Items Racing have two different metas. Not to mention that it can be very track dependent. In Time Trials, Mini Turbo and Acceleration are the best because you are turning more than you are going in a straight line. The reason Speed isn’t as good in time trials is because by the time you reach max speed, you reach a corner. Like I said it’s track dependent, so on a course like Excitebike, Speed could very well be better. However you are going in a straight line most of the track, so you don’t need to slow down then speed back up. The reason that Time Trials are different from online is that you don’t have to worry about getting hit. Since you don’t need to worry about bagging and making a comeback, you are essentially front running the entire thing. It also makes shortcuts easier and such. I think the reason these arguments happen is because of this. If you don’t do Time Trials a lot, you probably are more used to lots of items and making comebacks. Meanwhile if you do play Time Trials, you are trying to get back to full speed and stay there as long as possible. It’s game dependent too. In Mario Kart 8 for Wii U, we had fire hopping which let us retain our speed from boosts. Because of that, Speed was most important which is why we saw lots of Dry Bowser builds. However in MK8DX, we don’t have it, so it’s harder to maintain full speed. I’m a Time Trial, the longer you are at full speed the better. When playing online, you have access to many items to help you use your Speed stat. In short, it’s very dependent on many circumstances. Time Trials typically use high Acceleration and Mini Turbo because it’s better for a no items environment. Online players can use a more wide variety because items can change a race in mere seconds.

[@aldrichunfaithful3589]

something i found funny about that commenter is that everything he said about why acceleration is so useful, like being able to recover quickly from stray items or mistakes, is genuinely very important... but you literally get all of that from mini turbo and speed lol. if you mess up and fall behind you can hit a boost pad or get one of the million item boxes for a boost item, which works with speed not acceleration, and you can speed up faster by drifting with high mini turbo than you can by driving straight with high acceleration. the ability to accelerate quickly is arguably the most important thing it just happens that in 8 deluxe you do most of your accelerating with mini turbos, boost pads and items not with the stat