WORST GIFT YOU'VE EVER RECEIVED?! | EP 345 | ShxtsNGigs Podcast

[@chantel.mokwena]

Giving stretch mark cream to a woman who gave birth to their oldest child is insane. A lot of women do through not liking their bodies for months after delivering a baby and gifting them stretch mark cream just reinforces the idea of them not being pretty enough

[@alarice921]

This is the exact reason. Men will never understand the mental issues we go through because our bodies changed so drastically. Most of us eventually accept it after a while but being gifted stretch mark cream would have sent me in a tizzy.

[@Spiritfrost21696]

Their reaction to this 🚩

[@ariellotusflowervlog4727]

People without kids are definitely clueless. I can't wait to see a shift

[@charmainetom5638]

@@Spiritfrost21696this needs to be a top comment 🚩🚩🚩🚩

[@michelleinverary2361]

it like handing her a bucket and mop on her birthday all gift wrapped. That's the comparison, James.

[@janiylahedwards5888]

Had a baby 6 months ago. Telling you now… stretch marks and stretch mark cream was not on my mind. I was thinking about food and who in the hospital would kidnap my baby

[@bobberry1463]

Depends on the women I know a few women who was complaining about how she going to get scars and be out of shape after giving birth etc

[@Lucian_Media]

​@@bobberry1463yhhhh but for her man to give it to her is reinforcing her fear about her looks changing for the worse

[@Lucian_Media]

😂

[@TashaMoonie546]

Best time to apply those creams is when the stretch marks are fresh though.. so the gift was well intended im hoping.. and i say this as someone who had a baby

[@shania991]

@@TashaMoonie546I mean if she posted it as her worst gift obviously she didn’t take it that way wow

[@littlebirdie27]

Just to clarify, the Pope does not speak for all Christians. He only speaks on behalf of Catholics.This was a very interesting discussion none the less.

[@laanierhae]

Yeah, this was not their best informed segment.

[@феофилакт-п4ш]

1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. The Pope and the Church speak for all Christians who respect the Word of God.

[@angelinereneeuzabakiriho8569]

No the pope may speak in the name of Jesus but what he says contradicts the Bible

[@seannyagura5062]

​@@феофилакт-п4шthat's like saying the Christianity orgined from Rome, where Catholics orgined. Christianity existed long before the Roman empire. And also treat The Word as scriptures, scripts written by different people. Romans was clearly written by the Romans. They don't speak for Peter, nor John nor Timothy. The Pope holds value in the Catholic Church only, other churches would not care less if he died tomorrow. I went to a Catholic school, my grandmother is Anglican, I'm pentecostal. All different segments of Christianity with very different practices within and outside the church. Catholics pray to Mary, whilst in some segments that is deemed blasphemous. I'm just saying that to treat one segment as the pinaccle of Christianity is ignorant and somewhat offensive. It's sad because the wrong doings of Catholic priests(not in this scenario) are often put towards all Christians as Catholicism is very media rises. Do research first

[@Karlynscloset]

@@феофилакт-п4шthe Protestant movement went against the Catholic Church which is why you have Protestants and Catholics. There are thousands of Protestant based religion that does not go with the Catholicism. As a matter of fact, many vehemently go against the Catholic Church. I am a Christian and the Pope most definitely does not speak for me or my religion.

[@yurilopez5105]

Fuhad passed the vibe check with that post-partum gift response!

[@SosaSpeak]

Like crazy!!

[@masingitaangelmaluleke1969]

he's such a gem.

[@KDE95]

Its soooo refreshing seeing/hearing a discussion, that stays a discussion and doesn't turn into a slagging match and personal attacks.

[@dylanvanhoorne3191]

Don't look at these emotional females in the comments being childish after finally becoming a real women😂

[@dionatheempresss]

Anytime you get anyone an appearance altering gift, without them having mentioned it’s something they want, it’s RUDE. Its like telling them what to be insecure about. “Hey I know you haven’t said anything but i think you should work on this cause I find it ugly” is what it comes off as

[@tosh4771]

Yep. It's like getting someone teeth whitening strips or Rogaine for their birthday.

[@TelzAll]

Like imagine someone giving you mouth wash as a present 🎁 😂😂😂😂 lord ……..

[@TelzAll]

@@tosh4771please 😂😂😂😂😂😂 give them a gym membership or something like it’s so insensitive. It wasn’t even apart of a conversation or something. Like if she had mentioned it I’d be like okay cool. That was unwarranted evil…

[@5lim.0]

Aye in junior high I got hygiene shit for Christmas and it taught me a valuable lesson tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Ya man’s was MUUUUSSSTTYYY

[@koyuki90]

Well said, the intentions maybe good but you must think about how it might be perceived

[@SIMONE_F]

"She's busy rite now lil bro" "Stairs!" James never fails to entertain 😂😂

[@allano7814]

😂😂 having James as a friend is a full time job. "James! Come down!" James: " nah fam! I'm ending it!" 😂😂😂

[@tahleeljoseph7716]

When does stairs turn to balcony?

[@hotchoklat215]

Dear James, Please find another way of dealing with your emotions. Stairs cannot be the answer every time 😂😂😂

[@cupcake1065]

Hillarious.

[@Me-yh6wx]

He doesn't care about the other 999 ways, he only knows one way😂😂

[@isiscliff-brown4896]

@@Me-yh6wxq

[@julianwhite8221]

Giving birth is the most traumatic thing your wife has to go through she deserves all the birth gifts !!!

[@CPduo]

I've given birth, I know I could go through something more traumatic. And have.

[@KhadijahsMamma]

Especially being induced. I had my first baby and being induced made me doubt to try for a second child for a moment 😢 Next time I rather have a c-section if they make me choose between those things again !!! If that’s just as traumatic as induction that will be my last child unfortunately

[@mjcee8064]

@@CPduolucky for you, I almost lost my 1st daughter during labour and she ended up in intensive care…very traumatic

[@Savy.girl7_]

@@CPduohere is your trophy 🏆

[@ifeanyidasilva8376]

We call it a push gift in America. And the gift is for being thankful she had your child, that’s she’s still ALIVE, she did something literally you couldn’t do. It’s usually jewelry, or a spa day or whatever to show appreciation for the most insane thing humans can do.

[@TangoGolfCharlie]

I love how Facebook isn’t even included in the list of important apps anymore 😂

[@kasagure.]

why would it be? it's been property of the boomers since 2013

[@tawandakambeu3347]

What's Facebook?😂👀

[@Shortypants403]

@@tawandakambeu3347it’s the place you post missing cats and sell old stuff on marketplace

[@KylaFuller]

I only use Facebook though.

[@brizzygaming1164]

I deactivate it on the regular but some of my older family only uses facebook so I keep it

[@hudaj6310]

6:48 story aside this podcast is becoming a humble reminder for me to appreciate the cultures i grew up around. im east African and women in my culture and where i grew (middle east) are celebrated when they give birth and drenched in gold and finical support from their community. huge dinners are held for neighbors and loved ones or charity is given out to the less fortunate to celebrate the birth. this is the bare minimum standard too, others who are wealthier hire help for the women for the first 40 days after her birth. not to be dramatic but i had goosebumps when i heard their reaction LOOL 😭😭😭 girls please run the other way when you hear these types of jokes STAND UPPP

[@nasm8918]

As a fellow East African I absolutely agree with you ❤ for 40 days you’re so well taken care of and spoiled, I love our cultures.

[@amani98001]

RIGHTTTT I'm middle eastern too and whew chile.....

[@andsi-r]

We literally sacrficie an animal in hour and everyone legit everyone gifts the family and wife and for 40 days too, she has instant support. This is so weird

[@kagbo12]

Loveeee this! I need to marry an East African man 🙌🏿

[@bonedance129]

I feel like so many cultures around the world do, have done, or did this, and in the west we're just so severed from the appreciation of life and community and women are so highly disregarded that it just sounds outlandish and over the top instead of normal or instead of thinking that birth should.be celebrated and especially celebrated over the top. It appreciates the woman and her having just given BIRTH and it also celebrates the life of the person that was born. Don't we all deserve to be lavishly cherished?

[@madisonvaillencourt1990]

“Good morning Mrs. Duncan” after 6 months is CRAZY

[@hollypike8671]

I was looking for this one! You know he's toxic af cause you know he doesn't mean it, but my god I bet that works!

[@itsyaaveragegirl]

But I but you it works, and girls fall for it. Ain’t no way he would say it and think it wouldn’t land.

[@TelzAll]

That’s what I said immediately he is exactly what I thought he was 😂😂😂 a hoe

[@bubblegummers84]

THANK YOU!! Because immediately no!! 😵‍💫

[@Shaymundell-ni4qr]

Just shows that he's NOT a long term person 😂😂😂😂

[@benw4887]

James is actually the best promoter for TV shows 😂😂😂 made me want to watch lol

[@DominiqueIBCLC]

Facts! Any recommendations he’s made for Netflix or Hulu I add to my watch list. They’ve all been good

[@lifegoalsCS]

Facts!

[@iRepNGR]

James recap of MasterChef is gold... Recaps of competition shows need be a mainstay

[@harrietsings682]

a birth gift is a gift which shows your appreciation for what they have gone through during the birth process and for carrying the baby for the past 9 months

[@andredrayton5668]

Kmt.

[@harrietsings682]

@@ceairramoore5029 yeah it’s the same thing

[@goffed11]

Never heard of this before

[@ladyt4219]

This is a message directly to James. If your woman spends 9 almost 10 months creating a baby in her body goes through bloating morning sickness possibly losing her hair possibly losing her teeth gaining skin tags all of the things that come with pregnancy and then she pushes that baby out of her lady parts. All while you have done absolutely nothing but get your rocks off, which is effectively what caused the woman to go through all of that anyway...... You better get her a gift for pushing your baby out of her who-ha. . . A birthing gift is so the man let the woman know that he appreciates everything she just went through over the past year and during delivery. Stretch mark cream is the absolute worst gift. He literally could have gotten her a watermelon and it would have been a better gift than stretch mark cream

[@KingChaddii]

You do understand it's your baby too right. You're acting like you're doing him some massive favour.

[@alexwilks2848]

@@KingChaddii facts

[@serianethiam4662]

@@KingChaddiiwhile yes it’s also his baby too, it’s the fact that he is not enduring the mental, physical, and emotional stress of carrying a child. a birth gift is basically like a “hey thank you for enduring all of that stress and physical pain for the last nine months, so that we can raise a life together. here’s something to let you know i appreciate you.”

[@KingChaddii]

@serianethiam4662 if after nine months of me doting on you satisfying all your craving dealing with your mood swings telling you I love you,reassuring you and you still need a gift to know I appreciate you then you ain't the woman for me. I understand pregnancy ain't easy but why are we keeping scoring for that can't end well

[@kpachii560]

@@KingChaddiido you see your partner as a burden good sir?!

[@ayshajohn2439]

Is Ellis still on his challenge? I feel like there is a noticeable difference in his appearance. The haircut really levels out his face. Rem's hair also looks nice. I think keeping the hair out of their faces elevates both of their looks.

[@bradgiles2726]

I don’t think he is.. they’ve seem to stop talking about it after saying in one vid they’ll update every week. So I’m just assuming he hasn’t completed it due to not speaking about it (could be wrong tho)

[@ryanmeakin3126]

In a reacts vid a couple weeks ago the comments said he failed because he did the sour sweet challenge with the rest of them. He said he’d take a break from it but still doing most of the things

[@Four3zero]

What challenge? I’m new here 😊

[@nadiraibrahim3367]

@@Four3zero75 hard x it’s this health challenge

[@nerrissarichards]

As a mother of 2, I suggest you wait until she mentions something in a few weeks or months, and get her a gift basket with the cream in it along with other items to pamper herself! But don’t give her that 2 days later after birth?! NOOOO!!!!!!

[@dylanvanhoorne3191]

No never get her anything.she a big girl in more ways then one now.if she can't be a child and emotionally immature she can't keep them whale marks😂

[@mirrrstery]

Or don’t give it at all? Absolutely give gifts - that doesn’t need to be one of them cmon

[@Kieranlovesunicorns]

The dramatics of “there’s no other option besides stairs” 😂

[@arianaf1994]

As an American, James’ read on the religion thing was 100% accurate .. and his argument was sound ! Education/exposure does not equate to indoctrination. Education and influence are two different things! 👏🏼

[@Ashley-lp5fn]

His arguments are based on his lack of understanding of both religion and how religious clubs are ran. His arguments are valid, but they are not accurate or sound, because he doesn’t know about either of them. This was a great discussion though.

[@lucycarlisle9120]

Dude seriously thinks all Christians listen to the pope. Like, he's Catholic. There are literally millions of us Christians who aren't Catholic & some of us literally died protesting Catholicism's myriad abuses. Some of us think the current pope is PSYCHO & apostate.

[@mackniffy]

Yeah James gave Fuhad the business on that one. Even without being read on the topic he articulated why fuhad’s reaction was baseless and come from cristocentric worldview.

[@smeneses575]

the thing is, satanism is not about devil worship. that’s where people are misconstrued about it. james articulated himself very well.

[@nagidoesstuff7211]

​@@smeneses575 It's about the worship of ones self isn't it? Which was equated to bring the same was it not?

[@bernardvonreiche5474]

I love how Fuhad turns the can of drink label facing away because they're not getting paid advertising 😂😂

[@bridgetpatterson8438]

Yeah but it's clearly sprite 😂

[@Lucian_Media]

​@@bridgetpatterson8438is it?

[@yungsossa776]

@@bridgetpatterson8438not the point

[@KabeloThusi]

James does it with his monster from time to time

[@bridgetpatterson8438]

@@yungsossa776 I never said it was 😒

[@kait.theidiot]

Not gonna lie, this episode had me really frustrated. (This is coming from a Christian, raised in a Christian household in The South here in America) The guys obviously don’t actually know what Satanism is, just what it has been portrayed as in popularized media. In my belief, if your trust in God is true then you shouldn’t worry about kids getting told about other religions because they should have CHOICE. Taking away choice is the way that will drive children from paths. Like I truly want to write a whole essay here because I’m truly frustrated on how this really just evolved into a serious conversation without previous facts + research included. I’m gonna end it here bc i’m not trying to do a whole bunch more in yt comments like that 💀

[@Saman_tics]

I wanted them to Google the satanic temple so bad the entire conversation. Was frustrating me

[@boo7260]

Also as a Christian it was annoying me them just rambling on and on about it. Even though i have belief in god i wouldn’t want to tell anyone else anything about their own path with religion. Feeling like they dont understand the free choice that comes alone with it and just also that i think the kids are more making a stand than anything else. But if not so what. They have bible clubs in most schools i dont see this as any different

[@nikkimango2649]

This!!! Too many people fail to realize that any idea worth its salt will not crumble when questioned or when an alternative is presented. It's the practice of placing certain ideas above questioning and shutting down alternative options that is dangerous because _that's_ how you get cults. This is a problem with all extremist ideology. I do get why people are extra sensitive about children since they are very easily convinced of ideas (especially when said ideas are presented by a trusted authority figure) but that's all the more reason to not funnel them in any one direction. Parents are some of the worst offenders when it comes to this since many view their children as an extension of themselves instead of the soon to be autonomous people they actually are.

[@elianaverdades]

the forbidden fruit is the most desired… there is no such thing as too much knowledge…

[@VeronicaDiaz-qx6yo]

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!

[@prettygreenpanda8099]

I fully agreed w/ James argument about the satan club. I appreciate how open minded he is sometimes.

[@Sh1rr_0]

The satanic temple doesn’t even worship satan do some research

[@Jinella]

I could listen to James rant for hours!!!! Perfectly articulate, perfectly comedic. LOVE IT!!

[@graceyourbeauty]

Crazy to think that James said he couldn’t fathom having a monthly headache or nosebleed when it came to women’s cycles and yet he doesn’t think that women deserve a little gift after having a child and putting their bodies through all of that pain and misery? Crazy.

[@QueerBootlace]

Innit 😂😂😂

[@loveschile7339]

He has SO much still to learn in life, especially about women and appreciating them

[@jodeemapoe9032]

This whole episode frustrated me.

[@CP-ko3xz]

He's still a child.

[@TelzAll]

I never understood push presents 🎁 but I’ll take a gift for any reason lol.

[@lapukas]

If a guy bought me stretch mark cream I would wait until his birthday to get revenge. Every gift I gave him would have something to do with his hang up. Worried about your hairline? You're getting a six month supply of Rogaine, a gift certificate to a hair loss clinic and some new baseball caps.

[@denyshadials5702]

Oh I’m here for it 😂

[@5lim.0]

My dumbass would be like, “aww babe you be listening to to my problems 😍”

[@atks3906]

period! double down for reals like if you want to play that we can def play lol

[@CPduo]

A childish response.

[@mmurage]

Lol I'd be grateful fully oblivious to the shade being dished out😂

[@jl9480]

Not only am I not worried about no damn stretch marks after having your baby but I’m pissed that YOU are. And the fact that you mad about buying a lil gift for risking her LIFE is wild.

[@christil7635]

I like how James describes Master Chef as if he stood over everyone as they cooked and tasted every dish. I have a watched many a show/movie because of his enthusiasm.

[@tayjaybadd]

In the US it’s called a PUSH PRESENT 🎁 and stretch mark cream does not qualify. It’s a gift to congratulate her for pushing the kid out 😂

[@fa6534]

Giving your partner stretch marks cream 2 days after giving birth is the most messed up thing.

[@LeonieJMerry]

If a guy did that to me, I'd respond in kind. Every single birthday/christmas/whatever.... they'd be getting antiperspirant, dental floss, anti-wrinkle cream, a voucher for hair plugs.... 😂

[@TelzAll]

@@LeonieJMerrygym membership, a quote from a doctor in turkey on height surgery and how to enlarge penis pumpers 😂😂😂😂😂

[@siliziwex44]

@@LeonieJMerryThe double down would send me 😭🤣

[@atks3906]

agreed. i just gave birth a little over a year ago and if my husband did that to me i would definitely have to divorce him because it’s the principle of it and that’s truly disrespectful

[@raventhissel]

Comments like their sentiments on the topic make you remember they haven’t had a truly deep, serious connection with a woman or ever come close to having kids with anyone. I’m sure this perspective will change when they have something real.

[@Marquia777]

1. Where I’m from we call it a “push present” my husband got me a bigger wedding ring 2. It feels insensitive. I’m speaking from MY experience after I had our son everything was everywhere and I was self conscious. That’s not a gift just buy that while your shopping it’s a more “hey babe I saw this and thought you may wanna try it out” kinda thin don’t gift me that

[@moiraordonez5919]

agree, unless she asked for it in a way that "oh no i hope my stretchmarks go away, maybe there's something that could help" then it is a rude gift

[@sadiedixson6116]

Thank you wether his intentions were pure or not (different convo) that's a TERRIBLE gift either way. If she truly was having issues and wanted that cream why wouldn't you just buy it for her why are you waiting to give it to her as a GIFT FOR BIRTHING A CHILD????

[@TeiEleC]

I had a very easy delivery and when I say I was not thinking about the stretch marks. However, after my first shower at home it was all that was on my mind. I spoke with my man about it and was sad and maybe a tear escaped. When he came home from work he had some in hand. Know your partner and gift them based on that.

[@shania991]

It’s crazy how some men in the comments don’t understand this your body changes is so many ways I don’t get why on earth James would see that as a “nice gift” like dude her body just went through hell that lowkey an insult in my eyes

[@meghan8020]

The ‘gift’ part threw me as well. Like if man picks it up with the groceries while he’s also buying nipple cream for my blistered nipples, nipple pads, ice pack for my vagina, pads and maternity nappies for my bleeding sutured vagina, Panadol/neurofen, a bigger water bottle, a breastfeeding pillow, raspberry leaf tea, some healthy snacks etc. - I might humour him and slap some on in a few months time. A GIFT! My bro - that’s like buying a bottle of your favourite wine as a gift for your friends birthday, then proceed to crack the bottle and finish it off before you leave their party.

[@moondust1992]

Nah that stretch mark thing boiled my blood a little 😂 what in your life lads, in your entire experience with women, would make you think Strechmark cream would be an enthusiastically accepted gift after giving birth 😂😂 FYI its a scam and doesn't even work.

[@isabeldunn4010]

Firstly, it does work, check out bio oil, I know for a FACT it works. Secondly, you're wrong again, I as a woman would enjoy that as a gift because it's needed and thoughtful and any bitch that gets triggered by that, clearly needs that oil really badly

[@ATeamFan007]

Don't woman get post partem depression about their body after birth? Maybe it was him trying to help her get through that?

[@xxmidnightmoonglowxx]

@@ATeamFan007 post partum depression can't be cured with stretchmark cream, how patronising

[@moondust1992]

@ATeamFan007 No, not all do, and if they do, do you think gifting a cream (that doesn't work) to a severely depressed woman who's already struggling with body image is going to help? or is she going to see it as a slap in that face? Stretch marks are normal after birth and they don't go away - this needs to be accepted.

[@maxlee8780]

To be fair, stretch marks normally happen way before she goes into labor. So he probably had this stretch mark cream for a while.

[@TheKELLY111111]

Rem locked into the Mastechef update was hilarious! but James knows how to tell a tale 😄

[@Jadee2906]

James is always trying to work out how to finally get Fuad to take the wood 😂😂😂

[@peganjuliett]

I love how Ellis makes fun of James for getting educated on TikTok when I’m getting educated on top5s from you guys

[@SaraBranilovic]

James always threatening to throw himself down something it's so unbelievable😭😂😂

[@hello12394]

Boys... if your woman holds down a baby for 40 weeks, goes thru all those body changes, eating habits, mood swing, heartburn, daily sickness, ETC????? u get that woman a push present. be so fr.

[@laurenelizabeth5795]

They sound so …. dumb

[@vorbo01]

Nah how about I put that money towards the kids future instead

[@sumayaadem7352]

Investments for your kids gotta happen regardless. Y'all quick to forget who brought those kids into the world tho. Get the woman her push present cause she actually did the 9 months of labor.@@vorbo01

[@sabreec]

@@vorbo01he doesn’t have to get them a Ferrari, it can be like a $20 gift 😂

[@tayflowers13]

A flower would've been fine as well, not something that's gonna make her feel bad about herself.

[@Official_NOM_]

That club is just about a message. They just want to prove a point so I’m all for it

[@PENCILSandTRACKS]

WOW that Trash News discussion was AP literature/language arts/debate team worthy for analysis. I LOVED IT. Premium example of “agree to disagree” through the most stimulating and civil conversation 👏🏽

[@redhairluffy]

giving stretchmark cream to someone who got those marks from pushing out an entire human being is wild lmaoo since she called it the worst gift, saying that he could have been trying to be considerate is a stretch. he was trying to get rid of what he doesn‘t like to see

[@LoveSierraAnastasia]

But if they were given enlarging pills or protein powder on a whim by a girl they would cry😂

[@moiraordonez5919]

right? i love these 2 boys and sometimes even the most offensive jokes make me laugh but the fact that they questioned the birth gift was kinda sad. not cancelling them ofc but men rly say "the child is the gift" as if enduring pregnancy AND having to be the primary caregiver between both parents doesnt deserve an extra token of appreciation

[@missesLMA]

@@LoveSierraAnastasiafacts🤣

[@stefon815]

Don't impune the gifters motives. You don't have the backing to do so. Just sounds sexiest. 😊

[@shalisaperoonline]

Yea quite disappointing

[@Derek71776]

Rem saying "uwu" is something I didn't know I needed.

[@ntombi105]

James' storytelling has me in a chokehold😂😂😂😂 I need to hear more Masterchef reruns

[@liyah.x7003]

16:56 THE TIMING WAS PERFECTT

[@hollow.skull.95]

Fuhad, I hope you open your mind to other beliefs and respect the freedom of belief more. James, thank you for keeping an open attitude and keeping the discussion respectful and interesting! Overall, great episode :)

[@freshnproud2207]

This is actually the freshest trim I’ve seen James with

[@CarinRenee]

A birth gift 😂 we call that a “push present” 👶🏽🧸🎁

[@christalinmushongo1127]

You have got to be Namibian 😅🙈

[@danaglass1265]

Very popular in the US.

[@bukkypase]

And that's a shitty one

[@loovibes.]

​@@christalinmushongo1127facts😂😂😂

[@ninak5804]

Sorry for my long comment folks, I had bits to say lol. 1. The stretch mark cream birth gift is crazy in my opinion! For context, the birth gift was a trend that appeared after the discussion of mother morality and self care for parents came into question; so I think a lot of people do “push gifts” or “birth gifts” to celebrate the mother for surviving and kinda as a congratulations type thing. The reason I think the stretch mark cream was a crazy gift because in that situation, it wouldn’t feel like something to help maintain her health but rather a unsaid statement that the mother’s body must bounce back or she’ll be undesirable or “wrong.” Now, I know that’s not what he meant (or I hope so) but in a moment where her physical and psychological state is so shaky, that is not a good gift-no less 2 DAYS after. 2. As for the trash news, I loved the conversation! As someone in the US, religion has been a hot topic for centuries. Although we have things in law like separation of church and state, some instances people who seek to manipulate people with religion slip around the system. I honestly think the whole Satan club truly was just a sock-it-to-me moment to the organizations trying to institute things like Christian prayer and bible stories into the school system but it could be folks trying to gain representation of their beliefs; but in all honesty, I don’t think religion of any kind should be instituted in schools for the very reason people can be manipulated or abused by people in positions of power. For example, the documentary on Netflix called Keep Sweet, Pray, and Obey. That whole situation was not a representation of the whole of Christianity, but sadly many of the children (now adults-research the Lost Boys and the testimonies of the survivors) involved in that instance only learned of Christianity from a perverted version of the religion and connect it to the abuse. If they make clubs, it should probably only around high school and up; the only time I can see making concessions of students is like prayer rooms but only with the rules (because I know with beliefs like Islam calls for prayer sessions at specific times of the day).

[@anastasiariley3696]

Going back and rewatching I didn’t realize yall shouted out the Bronx with “Longwood Ave” ❤ 1:08:13

[@Zaiye-Raushan]

Faccccttttttssss!!!! 6 train Line!!!!🎉#LetsGO

[@jacqlynhunter4099]

In the famous words of James, "I'm not gonna lie." Love the deep and mutually respectful conversation about trash news. 😊

[@SafeHavenSports]

I like how Fulhad gets passionate about things but sometimes he is stubborn and doesn’t want to hear the other side lol it’s his way or the highway lol

[@XDseeya]

fulhad?

[@lori-annwynter3635]

James* Because Fuhad is the reasonable one😂

[@Taewills]

@@lori-annwynter3635Fuhad was being unreasonable about the Satanism convo this time though. And he made incorrect statements

[@KingChaddii]

@Taewills there is no reasonable convo involving Satan. Especially if you come up in a religious house

[@Gol.D-Ash]

Funny part is satanists don’t really worship satan. They are just atheist basically and don’t agree with Christian philosophy or whatever. Luciferians worship the devil and Fuhad doesn’t know the difference hehe

[@JO-um7xg]

I hope that the Top5 is reset and James hosts while Fuhad competes. End of 2024 should have James go head to head with the other highest scorer.

[@GrungeGalactica]

Nah Ellis should be the top 5 host & fuhad should take over his meagre points and see if he can beat James. Plus the other 3 are way more competitive. Sorry Ellis 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@superstarr2008]

@@GrungeGalacticaI like this idea!!!

[@CharlotteCarroll-in1ro]

Fuhad contradicts himself a lot, but I loved listening to James. Aristotle said true intelligence is being able to entertain an idea without accepting it, and being fearless enough to make the arguments he was making was very impressive. I have really enjoyed seeing different and more textured sides to James lately. He’s funny, bright, kind, admits when he’s wrong or in a mood. They have a great friendship, I love watching them both but James is just killing it lately!!!

[@elianaverdades]

James is showing different sides, he is open minded and racional, close with his emotions but was a working brain… Fuhad it’s the typical African man, close minded about religion, sexual orientation and what makes a man a MAN… it’s all about the upbringing, like adults being afraid of the dark even though they know there is nothing there, most people can’t explain with they believe in god but they have faith

[@_1xth]

@@elianaverdadesright he was irritating me this episode

[@TelzAll]

Fuhad is AFRICAN I can tell you right meow that they do not play that over there. He was trying to choose his words wisely cause cancel culture exists but he stands a million toes down on not having satan clubs around 😂.

[@TelzAll]

@@elianaverdades Fuhad is an African man you can not expect different. Also religion is very strong with them in most cases. Even if you’re not religious you were raised in a religion and you simply don’t mix with certain ideologies. Would I wanna be in a satan club? No! I got enough fookin problems 😂 Would I be curious about what they doing in there? Yes! But that’s also how you die sooooo😂😂

[@elianaverdades]

@@TelzAll I do understand that, I’m from Angola and we have very similar views on religion, education and life style with Nigerians… he couldn’t say what he would say to friends and family, sometimes it’s better to shut up 😂

[@briolivia1350]

I LOVE James playing devils advocate. I'm sure the Satan Club appreciates it as well LOL It's nice to hear deeper thoughts on what could have been a very sticky topic of conversation. Great episode.

[@Remiddi]

Tbh the thoughts weren't that deep lol

[@briolivia1350]

They were deeper than what the boys normally go, which again was nice to see. @@Remiddi

[@alexdeleon4997]

Surface level thoughts

[@angelwilliams5605]

I want someone to compliment me the way James compliments these chefs bc if someone called me a generational talent, I would wake up with a sense of purpose everyday

[@SoakUpTheSonny]

Them saying the baby was the present and dissing a gift for giving birth was the ultimate dual ick I think I've ever had 🥴

[@championkai182]

Nah, they are 110% right

[@angelntoni2404]

I literally gagged. I couldn’t believe it

[@kiannaclarke8041]

The things our bodies go through he clearly hasn’t put much thought into how children are made. We literally stretch and form every bone in the body from ears nose hands

[@LeadAntagonist]

@@kiannaclarke8041that’s what the cream is for!!

[@CPduo]

The baby is the gift. When I gave birth, that was the present.

[@05weasel]

Talking about worst gifts, a local coffee shop posted on Facebook saying “if you need a last minute Christmas gift, there are still spots available in our 5K. Sign up your favorite runner.” I’d physically assault someone if they signed me up for a 5K as my Christmas gift.

[@stefaniecoutinho2188]

Word!!!

[@Lucian_Media]

😂😂😂😂

[@ariemarie5279]

Omggg I’d get violent

[@MsSashalious]

Somebody tell these boys what a push gift is! lol love you all

[@spicerack73]

I don't think it's a thing in the UK yet. Americans make up any excuse to pamper themselves.

[@donkeykong12352]

Yo wys?

[@lenaBesos]

@@spicerack73you carry around a human life and go to the brink of death and think a present from your mate is pampering yourself? Ok.

[@spicerack73]

​@lenaBesos Childbirth is the safest its ever been in history. Women aren't typically in homes with a novice midwife these days. For the most part they are in modern hospitals with sterile equipment and an excellent medical staff. I'm not trying to downplay the birthing experience, "I" just don't see the need to conjure up a tradition of gifting. "Push Presents," "Push Gifts" seems to be a fairly new occurrence. It may have decent traction where you live, but "I" still consider it as pampering the mother. If you feel different, that's perfectly fine. Respectfully.

[@lazygirlfinance]

@@spicerack73I have a 12 year old, and I got a push present when she was born. I don’t know how new it is, but I remember hearing the term a least around a few years before she was born.

[@nikkidub05]

The religion conversation was so entertaining to watch and I really wasn't expecting James to be so open minded about it. It was truly refreshing to see him argue that opened mindedness so adamantly. Fuhad metaphorically clutching his pearls over the idea of a satan club reminded me how British you guys are 😂

[@o-xx3qy]

The way James explains these tv shows is way too entertaining 😭

[@kells1784]

When James explains a show, he does it so well I want to go watch it 😅😅🙌

[@cheybae1193]

Today’s trash news really sparked an interesting conversation, I love it.

[@harlequincarla8281]

Anxiety was anxieting today, an hour with the Daddies was just the therapy I needed 👌

[@spicerack73]

Hope the rest of your week is amazing! Yeah, some of us actually read the messages.

[@harlequincarla8281]

@@spicerack73aww thanks, love this community!

[@canbb3811]

Hope today is a little better. X

[@cindyholloway8269]

James had me dying "You love to make up your own loophole" 🤣

[@jaclynwiththeredhair]

James looking like a daddy with his fresh fade 🔥

[@mrsleli83]

Indubitably 🔥🔥🔥

[@alessiamonet3055]

Really needed this before my math finals. Thank you daddies 😢 Ps. If anyone's wondering I just did it and it sucked. 🤷

[@michael.cfa7]

Same omg goodluck😭

[@Fortis_Iris]

No fr- I have like 2 today 🥲😭😭 Good luck on yours though!!! 🙌

[@alessiamonet3055]

@@Fortis_Iris thanks. Same to you

[@noivern8595]

Get to work the lot of yous.

[@Fortis_Iris]

@@alessiamonet3055thank you!!

[@chanell.s]

Jamessssss this haircut is THEE BEST one you’ve ever had. Kudos

[@lifeoftashashemc]

The line up is lining and waves are waving

[@chanell.s]

@@lifeoftashashemc yes, seasick from the 🌊 🌊 🌊

[@Danversdiary]

The happiness James get's when he speaks about Fuhad lipsing him😭❤

[@ClearlyChantelle]

He felt very special 😂❤

[@xxLurveGalxx]

I can’t believe this is the show that has made me start watching masterchef after all these years. James is making it sound bare interesting hahaha

[@Jessicarhv]

I'm absolutely LIVING for the Masterchef recaps

[@theycallmecassidy8010]

it's the way James is defending Tiktok with his life 🤣

[@prayzselemani]

"tik tok paid for you desk my guy" James already at the start of episode 😂😂😂

[@infinitekharisma]

Push gifts are a REAL THING 1st off (Cars, Bags, jewelry, Big gifts) second saying you impregnating me is a gift NOT A GIFT. 👀 yuk

[@charmainetom5638]

Amen 🙏🏿

[@xxsniperkittykatxx]

I can go without TikTok for weeks then end up spending 46 hours straight just lost

[@debbismelser6536]

I love how they have conversations that would normally be avoided for fear of upsetting their subscribers. They are calm, for the most part, and intellectual.

[@dancinboi89]

Also for the satan club thing, a lot of groups will go to the extreme of naming it a satan club cause there are never issues with Christian or other religious groups. Also a lot of queer aligned groups get pushed out because of religious biases so this is an extreme other side of spectrum situation.

[@davidriley4895]

It is not a class, it is a club. There are kids running it. They may have a faculty advisor, but the students will determine what goes on.

[@her9574]

Some clubs have adults running them. Depends on who has been appointed the “president” and whatnot.

[@Nicobobeepo]

As a non-religious US kid who was peer pressured into praying in class, I can absolutely see a bunch of kids getting together to form a Satan club as an F you to school administrators. Religion isn't supposed to be forced on anyone in school but depending on where you're located in the states, it is 100% assumed that everyone is Christian and the school operates according to this assumption.

[@феофилакт-п4ш]

They mentioned in the article that the challenge to the supposed violation of America's secularism laws came from the Satanic Temple, who are responsible for the After-School Satan clubs nationwide. Whether or not kids are running it is irrelevant, the content is coming from adults who worship the devil.

[@dan6241]

My kid goes to this club. It's run by adults.

[@lokitrixter]

I would love for one or both of them to look up the actual tenents of Satanism. I'm not a Satanist but i remember this from a bit ago and looked into it because, as i knew it, there is nothing inherently evil about Satanism. The Satanic Temple has been lumped into other "Satanic" cults etc. They actually oppose LaVeyan Satanism. While unlikely I'd love for them to see this and do a bit of research and circle back.

[@pandacrystal7112]

Was thinking the same thing, wish they researched the topic

[@coulterbenner4331]

I was thinking the same thing. I was searching the comments hoping someone said this. The tenets of Satanic Temple are actually pretty amazing.

[@kitabootforever]

I know a couple who are apart of it and they're the nicest people I have ever met. She and her husband are some of the most open minded and sweet. They are very giving and non judgmental. If I had to pick between them and some of the Christian people I know for help, I'd choose them. The Christians would "pray for me", the couple would go buy me a pack of diapers and give me some money and tell me to keep my head up

[@SeventhHouseandOak]

This!! I’m so glad you said it! I think this club is going to be amazing! They aren’t going to be teaching anything but open-mindedness and how to think for yourself instead of what to think! I love how the name is going to draw a lot of attention (and controversy) and draw in kids who just want to be THAT kid, but ends up learning sooo much more. It’s absolutely brilliant and I’m elated that this is a thing AND it’s happening!!

[@lokitrixter]

@@SeventhHouseandOak I had to double check the location because I know a local school to me also had issues getting a club started until early this year. I was willing to sponsor it purely on the basis of the tenets and wanting the option to be available. I'm glad there are schools allowing for the club to exist as an option.

[@merp9211]

I love that we’re still calling it Twitter. 👍🏽

[@arig5701]

Fuhad: “She’s busy lil bro” James: *laughs in his villain origin story*

[@beautuckerman7939]

Fuhad getting locked in on the name satan and not realizing what some satanists actually believe was interesting

[@StasiaJayC]

I can’t wait for master chef to have James as a guest host or guest judge. I’m so invested in this show and I have never seen it!

[@KitsoSekati-on9cd]

His so passionate about this 😌

[@deicyiyaloo]

I am so invested in this masterchef now, but I only want to see everything through James’ eyes and commentary😹

[@hannahferrar7611]

James was on fire this episode 😂 "stairs" had me rolling. Going off about masterchef finished me off! Hahaha

[@reginaalvarado315]

I absolutely loved the discussion brought on by the Trash News segment. I completely agree with James and his take, which was logical and objective.

[@channi3_m]

I really appreciated James’ stance on the religious conversation. It was well thought out and well articulated.

[@BrisWorld404]

just a little note! a lot of school clubs in america are led and planned by students. oftentimes the club has to have an adult sign off on it or enough members/signatures to show true interest but it’s not adult led. obviously not every school!

[@slightexag]

James could explain any show and it would be the most amusing content you watch all week. His storytelling and commentary is so elite

[@Alyrulz421]

When James said the bit about the pope I immediately knew the comments were gonna correct him ASAP 😂

[@Ivy94F]

Me too! Lol! I’m like, bruh you’re british! Y’all fought about that shit for YEARS!!!! England drew that catholic/protestant line HARD!! 😂

[@theScariest]

Yo James is actually really smart and logical. I'm impressed bro.

[@mirandamartinez3047]

First thing in the morning hearing James start off with SKEEEYEEE started my Monday work day jussst right! 😂

[@trinaroach2832]

Re stretch mark cream: Have the cult daddies never heard of a "push present"? Some new moms get (diamond) tennis bracelets or designer bags or new cars.

[@Blackbimbx]

I like hearing that you 2 have different perspectives on topics. It's also interesting because James isn't throwing a hissy fit over Fuhad disagreeing with him 🤣

[@BrinaCakesz]

It's because he got a haircut so he isn't pressed about life😅

[@keedahahmed2343]

But that goes to loud saying who was raised right… much respect to the lads but I feel ( just my opinion) that playing into the devils idea is actually goes against all faith and is like saying actual rapist, murderers etc have a right to deny jail time under the pretense of my religion says so..

[@persivy]

@@keedahahmed2343but satanism generally doesn’t encourage murder?? Look at modern forms of it, many forms emphasise individualism, personal freedom, and the pursuit of one's desires, but within the boundaries of ethical and legal principles (no I am not a satanist, I’m daoist this was from a google search).

[@iheartgirls5958]

@@keedahahmed2343That doesn’t make sense though. All those things you listed are against the law it’s not religious discrimination to put a criminal that is dangerous in prison. Even if your religion says you can do whatever before you explore religion the law was there first. It is your duty to look into the law and not commit crimes that harm others. It’s a school club and satanism is not worshipping the devil it is a byproduct of the persecution of anti-religious people. It’s basically an f-you to people who think their religion can dictate what others do it is not inherently bad or evil.

[@farah-naazsnyman4086]

James’ fade and line up is looking particularly spectacular this week

[@nataliesanchez-villavicenc1336]

I need to watch Master Chef with James!! Seems like it would be sooo much fun just hearing him get so excited and heated

[@Blullaby]

The MasterChef talks are absolutely enthralling 🥰.

[@kevinwillbourne6092]

As far as I'm aware satanism is non religious, the only place you're going to hear about satan is in genuine religious clubs

[@Taewills]

Thank you!!! 👏🏽 The whole time they’re talking I’m like…. 🤔 “that doesn’t mean what you think it means” But even if they were genuine Satan Worshippers it’s allowed. Also Fuhad talkin about cults but most are fringe groups from the Christian sects lol

[@kingsofguyana]

It is technically a religion but it’s definitely not in the same vein as other religions

[@bluebell1009]

James needs to live in a bungalow for his own safety 😂

[@brandoncombs9885]

38:48 also…. Can we get into james line up?!?! That shit is CRISPPPPPPPPPPP❤

[@MaryamAsif-s6h]

49:50 Ngl Fuhad is giving *obedient husband that listens to his wife's over exaggerated day* whilst listening to James speak so passionately about his beef with MasterChef 🤣🤣🤣