Shubunkin Goldfish vs Koi. Which one is better? Which one is right for me?

[@TarasTankFriends]

Great and informative video, Chris! I like them both, but I think with all the requirements for koi, if I had to pick one, it would be shubunkins-- particularly your line, those are SO pretty! I read somewhere that the longest living domestic fish was a 300 yr old koi, don't know if that's true though, lol. Hope you have a great weekend! 🙂👍

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks, Tara, by the way, happy birthday! Hope you had a great day. I really appreciate the compliment. Yeah I've heard that there's some fish that has lived at 300 years but they haven't been able to prove that but you never know. 100 years I've heard of but like I said the average can live up to both 30 35 years. Most live to 15 to 20 and that's pretty long

[@TarasTankFriends]

@@stubbsaquatics6080 thank you for the birthday wishes! It would be difficult (if not impossible?) to prove a fish lived that long, but it's a fun story I suppose 🙂. 30-35 is still quite a lifespan!

[@sweetkoiyo]

Great video. I too think they're both beautiful. I think the Shubunkin are far easier to take care of, plus their color patterns, and varieties are far more random. They sure are not cookie cutter fish, like most Koi are.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks so much for watching. They really are easier to look after. They are beautiful Hardy. I wish they lived as long as koi. And even got as big as them. That would be nice or I wish Kauai were as hardy as them.. be nice to have the best of both

[@shubunkin.goldfishtank]

Both fish are beautiful but it all depends if you can meet the needs of the fish, for any size pond shubunkin will do fine but for koi you need to have a lot bigger pond for them, nice information Chris!

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks Greg. Yeah good points. They both have their good pros to them I just wish that the goldfish lived as long as koi and that the koi where is Hardy as a goldfish

[@shubunkin.goldfishtank]

@@stubbsaquatics6080 That would be nice.

[@westbromkoi]

Good discussion Chris, both have they’re good points and bad points. Like you said beauty is in the eye of the beholder 👍🏼

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thank you very much my friend. You're right, beauty is in the eye. Beholder and koi are living jewels I just wish there was Hardy as goldfish

[@hamaarahof5712]

Hands down love the Shubunkins. My absolute favourite of any goldfish type. We also have a Koi now, regular goldfish, but recently added the Bristol Shubunkin. They grow so fast and look just beautiful. But it is good that people like different things, lol. Greetings from Alberta 🌸

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Hi my fellow 🇨🇦.. My daughter lives in Alberta and my wife is currently visiting her. I have looked around for years to find a true Bristol. My best shubbies I will bring inside in the fall . Do you keep your koi outside during the winter.. I know how cold it gets there.. I spent a month (Feb) in Edmonton. Nice to meet a fellow koi and shubunkin enthusiasts from Canada. I see you like dogs as well Thanks again for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it

[@hamaarahof5712]

@stubbsaquatics6080 Hey, I had emailed when we started this journey and appreciate all that we have learned from you. We are north of Edmonton. So far they are all coming in. But there is a plan for a much deeper, bigger pond, so we will see. Found those baby Bristol Shubunkin by chance at Big Al's. We do not expect show quality, but they are healthy and doing well. We don't have a breeder out this way. Best of luck with your fish. And yes, the dogs are a big part of our life's 🙂

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

@@hamaarahof5712 sorry Now I remember you. My apologies. Big Al's eh.. I picked up a couple there about 11 years ago. They were not bristol... I don't have them anymore but they did produce offspring that I now have .

[@hamaarahof5712]

@stubbsaquatics6080 Well don't imagine they are high quality. But even if they are regular Shubunkin, it's okay. But one day will be nice to have one or two really nice Bristol once as well, lol. In the meantime, will just enjoy what is here😀 I love peaceful fish and have less and less cichlids for that reason. They are hand tame (well sort of) and no aggression or stress from them. Such a pleasure to watch!

[@fishlaw1]

I like them both, but I favor Koi. Thanks for sharing Chris and happy wet pet keeping🙂 LIKE#5

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I like them both. Corey have a lot of good points to them. They are living jewels that's for sure and they interact with you so well. I just wish they was Hardy as shubunkin goldfish

[@thecraftingnook6495]

You have such a beautiful pond and such gorgeous gorgeous fish. Our shubunkin and goldfish are gorgeous and so full of character😊

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Ah thanks so very much. I really appreciate that. I'm glad you like them too and I would love to see more of yours

[@alexjoanvlog6061]

Gusto ko sila lahat nakakarelaxay nakaka aliw panuorin.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. All the best

[@pelhamsaquatics]

Both are beautiful, I wonder , just for information, if you lived in a warmer climate, say southern United States ,would you keep barbs in outside ponds like this chris? I could just imagine some tinfoils in a nice outdoor pond, I bet the sun 🌞 would reflect off them. Great video pal 🙂👍🏻

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I probably keep some kind of Barb either an Odessa or an Aurulius.... And it might even try keeping African cichlids. But they too many plants so I don't know. But it's fun to dream

[@aquariumdelirium]

I’m liking them both But if I had to pick one to keep first I’d pick shubunkin

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks Mal. I am with you

[@robynblois1192]

Thanks, Chris. I had no idea of the longevity of these fish! Wow. Both are beautiful but I'm with the shubunkins too. It's just so much fun to say.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Haha .. Shuuu Bunk innnn

[@glosfishgb6267]

i had 42 koi in my 11TG pond i restocked it 3 years ago kept it simple 7 purchina koi 15 red white wakin and 15 golden rudd best thing i ever did

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Would absolutely love to see them

[@glosfishgb6267]

@@stubbsaquatics6080 was thinking of doing a few you tube vids but yes i prefer fish in groups rather than mixed prefer a group of 7 white koi to a mixed batch

[@twunderaquatics1770]

I like them both, but shubunkins have always fascinated me from the first time I saw a school of them at a plant nursery. I waited a few years but finally got them. Great video 😊

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Hi Terry. I know how much you love shubunkin goldfish. You have some real beauties there.. plus I love your pond .. koi would destroy a lot of that. I like koi for certain things and shubbies for others.. but if I could only have one .. I would probably have shubunkin goldfish only. But luckily I have a few ponds lol Thanks again buddy

[@MarcoIsidori]

Hi Chris! I think it is difficult to choose which is better if one is fond of ponds and cold water fish would like to have both Koi and Shubunkin carp. Although as you said, the management of Koi carp requires greater investment and space as well as experience and a certain culture on the subject since they are also very expensive and long-lived fish. Good weekend.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

They really do both. Have a great qualities. I just wish they shared some of their best traits especially when it comes to hardiness age. Thanks again my friend

[@fishismyhobbyofficial]

great video, very informative, thanks for the very useful sharing Chris have a nice day, like 61

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks.. I know you like koi

[@DeesYard]

Hi Chris! I hands down prefer Shubunkin goldfish!! I love the look of them and all their amazing designs/colors. My husband likes koi but we don't want to pay a bunch of $ for koi so we get them when they are super young and they all change their colors on us leaving us with something we weren't expecting. Plus, our koi are always reproducing, so we will have to cut down on their population soon. Oh, not to mention they are aggressive when we feed the fish, and it always looks like they bully our goldfish. I love them both but prefer goldfish.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Depending on the type of koi, they certainly do lose their colors. Several mine have lost colors and that's typical with certain breeds and with age apparently it's like hair lol I really like both. I just wish koi where is Hardy as goldfish.. and I wish the goldfish were as friendly and grew as big as the koi. Thanks again my friend

[@DeesYard]

@@stubbsaquatics6080 😁

[@bigfishlad4847]

I prefer Koi to be honest 👍 I am an ex Carp fisherman so maybe a link there somewhere

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

It's amazing how big carp fishing is over there.. here most people cut there lines if they hook up on a carp as they have light rods for bass and walleye

[@DidisFINDen]

my fish club had a talk by a well know koi judge.. it was so interesting to learn about these fish. but there is no way to have enough water to allow them to live a great life. now i have started a shubunkin collection this year. i hope to expand my tub ponds next season. i also love the orandas, and other fancy goldfish....i don't like that i can't se4e all their beauty in the black tubs. maybe one day a diy glass front outdoor pond. as we have so many water mocassins, etc here...i insist the ponds be above ground level....but i do love looking at others beautiful designed ponds. thanks for the vids on all of these.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

No water moccasins this far north. There are plenty of water snakes but they would not normally come to a backyard pond. Garder snakes yes... I understand the need for raised ponds your way...mine have to be inground otherwise they get too cold. I look forward to seeing what all you do. Thanks again my friend

[@esthermcgee2855]

Thanks. I learned so much from your video. Great job again Chris

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks Esther

[@mykoiobsession]

Another well put together video. In my mind there is only one pond fish for me...koi. I especially like the ones featured in your video at 5:58 and 6:48. The person who owns those magnificent koi must really know what he is doing. 🤣 🤣 🤣 Perhaps one day I'll give in to your influence and try shubunkin but for now, koi it is.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I bet you liked those ones the best. Mine are not high quality.. they were all domestic fry when I got them. I appreciate your support and kindness

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

And I doubt you will ever get shubunkin goldfish 😂

[@lauramackellar9571]

Thank you, Chris. Another great video

[@AMBELLINA77]

After sharing my too many fish, I'm down to my favorite 6 koi and 5 shubunkins (2-3 years old). Still too many. I think I need another pond. I was going to keep just the koi but they're all so pretty! I picked some serious stunner shubunkins and I am so torn. And now (year two in pond) I have about 50 small fish pop up in all my side tanks, which some might be koi, some not, some both? I think the gin rins are only going to be koi? Surprisingly there is very little info on shububkins online. You've been very informative. Thank you for taking the effort to build the online presence of a really awesome fish.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I really like my shubunkin goldfish they are so underrated the same token I still love my koi. I really appreciate your kind comments and you watching thanks so much hope to hear from you again and would love to see your system

[@hanscarr7515]

Heyo, I've watched many of your videos and even used some to help refine my own pond, great information, and while my pond is too small to house koi, I have found my Common, comets, and shubunkins to be very interactive with myself, partner and guests. They have distinct characters and some are shy with unfamiliar people but all come to rub against my hand weather it's feeding time or not. I suppose Koi may go beyond that sort of behavior but I've been surprised and impressed with my fish.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Hey Hans. First of all, I'd like to say thank you for watching and for commenting, and I'm glad some of my videos have helped you transform your pond. I do love my goldfish . I have noticed some me of my shubunkin goldfish will actually try to make contact and will follow for food but koi have a distinct personality. Some breeds are more friendlier than others and some a little bit more food aggressive. They definitely do follow you around and when I'm in the ponds they'll they'll swim into me intentionally. Not in a mean way, but just to rub up against you like you said. I love both koi and goldfish . As you might know I breed shubunkin and barbs. I don't really breed my koi. I hope your summer is going well. I would love to see your pond

[@zoltan303stackin]

Thanks for this info...very beautiful fish

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks

[@zoltan303stackin]

@@stubbsaquatics6080 your welcome

[@zeny12379]

Beautiful fish,great sharing,thanks Chris.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks so very much.. I really appreciate it

[@KristelTV8]

Hello there chris😊...for me i think gold fish and shubunskins are beautiful i love tgem both i have them before..it just shubunkins life is shorter than koi.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Yes, I wish they lived as long and I wish koi was healthy the goldfish thanks again my friend. Take care

[@darrinmoore5206]

Great video. This one was watched in Belfast. The pubs here are all they are cracked up to be.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Can't wait to hear all about it and bend a couple elbows with you

[@Heidi.lin...69]

Love my shebunkin

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

They are some of my favorite fish

[@LifeHomeandGardenwithAnaRica]

They are both great but I like Koi the most. Thanks for a great video Chris

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks Ana... I am still split lol.. each have there own pros that is for sure... I like how big koi are and how friendly they are . Just wish they were as hardy as shubunkin goldfish

[@jiffsterkoi]

Great topic chris but for me koi is the winner 🥇

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

That came as a complete shock Mike. I would of never guessed given the beautiful koi you have

[@Sandor68]

Great topic and very informative especially for someone thinking about starting a pond. I personally prefer koi but like you mentioned they need room and the water depth is important for our Canadian winters. When I had my pond I did only stock goldfish for the reason mentioned above but regardless they are wonderful fish and I still have two of them in my tank that were originally in my pond over 10 years ago now. Have a great weekend Chris 👊🍻

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I truly love koi... They are true jewels... Just wish they were hardier... They are like a fancy breed of dog that gets sick very easily... When a mutt is just healthier .. Breeders are actually breeding koi back with carp to strengthen the breed.. Now I do like my shubunkin.. just wish they would grow and act more like koi lol

[@pattys_aquatics]

I just started getting into the goldfish/ Koi . Yours are beautiful!!! Great video Stubbs and thanks for the info 👍

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks buddy.. much appreciated

[@jackanddan]

Great video Chris……we’re gonna try to have both just like you 😀😀👍👍

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I can't wait to see how they do

[@keepingitkoi]

Koi all the way 😅😉

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I didn't expect that from you Jamie 😂👍... Thanks so much for watching and commenting

[@keepingitkoi]

You thought I'd prefer shubumpkins 🤔

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

@@keepingitkoi hell no!!

[@keepingitkoi]

@@stubbsaquatics6080 😅😅 😘

[@KingsAquariumsAndReptileRoom]

Great video chris ! I have to say that i love both of them hahahhaha , and i wish i could have room for a pond but my gardens to tiny lol. But i love the patterns and colours of both shubunkins and koi. Ive learnt alot from this video! Thanks for sharing 😊

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Koi are living jewels They certainly get huge and live a long time providing you can keep them healthy and that's the hard thing . the goldfish are a little bit easier but don't have the same coloring and patterning for the most part and definitely don't get as big or live as long

[@johnotooledoggames2336]

🇮🇪 Good video sharing

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks John

[@kretesciezkipawelszulc1960]

Hello my friend, good channel, like.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks so very much! I so appreciate that

[@OCDishChick]

Good morning, Chris!

[@OCDishChick]

Your fish are beautiful as ever.

[@OCDishChick]

Great information!

[@OCDishChick]

Thanks for sharing!

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks, Niki ☺️ I hope you're doing well. I don't know if you heard, but we had a terrible hailstorm that wiped out our gardens for this year

[@Gilsfishroom]

Koi. End of discussion.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I guess there's no arguing with you is it? Hahaha

[@AfricanCichlids]

I know what you mean about koi adjusting to the climate, I know people who leave them out all year round in the UK.

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

I leave my koi outside all year round.. your winters are mild...but most people have raised ponds that don't provide warm areas Thanks a lot Nick

[@austinstanley2176]

I love them both !! 🙌

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks.. nice to have family

[@greenmachinesweden]

I vote for shubunkins! Keeping koi makes no sense really. Too expensive and too much work. You know it as well Chris.🙂👍

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

You serious Magnus... Love my koi but they are expensive to keep... Your filters are the best.... I mentioned that in my last video lol

[@greenmachinesweden]

@@stubbsaquatics6080 I may have missed a vid or two painting. Will check it now.1😀👍

[@DeFreeseAquariums]

Great video

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks Rob

[@theaquaticdesert]

Both are beautiful

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks buddy, I appreciate that

[@TropiscapeAquatics]

Aren't Koi's one of the most expensive fish in the hobby when it comes to quality? If I remember correctly, there was a Koi that was sold in Japan for something like $1 million

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

You would be correct... They can be very expensive especially quality Japanese koi. Domestic koi are expensive enough.. but reasonable when they are very small... I have always bought very very small koi... Years ago I spent 80 dollars on a koi.... It died in our winter...

[@MorningDriftwood]

I can not provide enough space for both beautiful creatures. 😅

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

That's a shame. Take care

[@FKJ_WORLD]

this is a difficult choice for me personally

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Thanks Raleigh

[@forrestmalcom8351]

There almost like Mini Kois 😂

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

So very true Malcolm. Thanks so very much for watching and commenting. Have a great week

[@burke58]

My answer would be shubunkin, but that’s only cause I like saying the word 🤷‍♂️

[@stubbsaquatics6080]

Hahaha

[@thebusybrownangel5829]

💚💚💚

[@PanRybka22]

Hello friend :)