Players vs Umpires Edition! 100% Absurd

[@ludwig1672]

Problem with the badminton umpires is they can make awful wrong judgments and take 0, absolutely 0 responsibility of it. It is unimaginable in all other sports

[@mapleveritas2698]

Google "Angel Hernandez". Baseball.

[@starking1187]

Wait till you see how table tennis umpires that don't even know what the score is

[@therealoxcooper4616]

Everyone no matter how good they are at their job can make mistakes. Especially in high pressure environments. What you want to do? Fire them? Yeah I can already guess what the BWF will say. “Yeah I know you have been working for us for 25 years but we are going to have to let you go because some angry netizens don’t like the way you umpire and upset their players and made some wrong calls even though it’s really tough multi tasking on the game and making sure the players are safe and not taking advantage of the rules. We are going to spend another 3 years on a trainee to be hopefully better and more experienced than you”. Yeah and we know he will be just another human like you anyway. Yeah that makes sense.

[@maidinblueandwhite3443]

Just like the current Denmark CEO said he brought many semi professional umpires into badminton . Badminton is so poor and badminton is gonna die .

[@maidinblueandwhite3443]

The Denmark CEO is Poul Erik .

[@maximiliancze4436]

3:00 She realized and apologised thats respectable

[@truemanofculture2353]

Yea respect

[@noelthen898]

VAR which is widely hated in football is needed desparately in badminton!

[@chowlokhang]

Didn't you heard of hawk's eye?

[@mrboast2826]

​@@chowlokhanghawkeye only for line though

[@LegendJ0e4]

why is var hated in football? it saves so many vs decisions?

[@thebluescaptain]

@@LegendJ0e4 It's hated by English Premier League fans because it only benefits corrupt referees more.

[@faizazizan4855]

@@LegendJ0e4 because the VAR in football is still run by humans hence there's still human judgement involved. There are lots more nuances in football e.g. a slide tackle could be deemed safe, yellow or even straight red card offence if the replay is viewed from different angles and playback speed. Use of VAR for badminton should be more straight forward e.g. to see if there was double touch (like we saw in 2:38) or just to correct awful umpire decisions (e.g. 5:08 )

[@Warose92]

To be fair, sometimes it is very hard to judge and an Umpire has only a split of a second. Sometimes mistakes happen like 2:45 min, where an umpire can say "sorry, my mistake" and correct his/her error, but i wonder, why BWF cannot introduce a "camera challenge", where an umpire can rewatch in slow motion, if a player touched the net or the shuttle

[@TuanAnhLe-wn7gk]

More money means no-no i guess

[@Squarabh2]

this

[@osbertting6936]

according to what bwf says, the video frame rate is still low and not HD enough to tell (even though for the audience is clear enough to see the result). BWF should reduce the rights of umpire as it seems they don't even know what is badminton (maybe BWF don't even know what is badminton as well). In long term, people would only think badminton is just a toxic sport and indirectly reduce the image of badminton.

[@maidinblueandwhite3443]

BWF has no money to buy camera for badminton . Badminton is so poor and badminton is gonna die .

[@anshumankakralia7542]

Appeal for VAR IN BADMINTON

[@donnietd]

it's funny that many times line judges make no signal or late decision, but when players challenge Umpires say "too late". Seriously, what was that? How could players challenge when the Line judges haven't made their call?

[@show68channel57]

Wow... This is good stuff. Thank you uploader for showing all those blunder wrong call these Umpires make 7:22 was totally absurd . Was looking for Umpire Elsa's bloopers call but can't find one ... haha ! ! !

[@dinihadi6279]

Referees should be appointed from among those who also know how to play badminton, at least they know how to judge especially cases near the net.

[@DaniloDividina]

Most of the umpires are frustrated players. Their eyesight is completely not at the same level as the players. Moreso, the videos cannot lie. They tend to justify their ego than to correct their mistakes. Not just in badminton actually.

[@Blitzhax]

Don't know about referees but as an umpire I can say that every other umpire I've met plays or used to play themselves. The pay is terrible so everyone who becomes umpire did it from passion or to help out their club in order to be allowed to organise a tournament. You may think it's easier to make calls since you're standing or sitting at the net. But from experience I can tell you that staying focussed 100% of the time for a long period during a match is very hard when you're just standing or sitting there so sometimes even when you get distracted or zoned out for even a split second, you can miss an important call

[@dinihadi6279]

@@Blitzhax I agree with your opinion..but..how long we need to see this cases..That's why I think bwf need to do something about this..which is VAR in net situations..because..it will effect player's mental and gameplay ofcourse.

[@Blitzhax]

@@dinihadi6279 In an ideal world that would work, but keep in mind that VAR and even hawkeye have made mistakes and will continue to make mistakes. They're not perfect either. The judgement of an experienced umpire from seeing the situation happen in 3D can still outdo that of a 2D video or program. As an AI & Data Engineer myself I can tell you that digital systems are far from perfect because they're also made by humans. It's never a computer's mistake, it only does what it's told. Basically I still trust my own judgement over a digital system because I know how they work and how they were made

[@nev4044]

Bwf is more interested in keeping their own pockets lined rather than promoting the sport or increasing the money for umpires and better technology.

[@wombatxave3578]

First of all, the players should have someone that can converse in English well to communicate with the referee. Second, BWF needs to introduce something like VAR to this sports. Third, players should be able to complain about the umpires and the umpires will be punished should they made a mistake and refused to change. It's frustrating to see nothing can be done even when the players talk to the umpire of the competition. That sounds ridiculous.

[@rezhaadriantanuharja3389]

I think all players should speak English. Nobody wants to watch an argument between players & umpires with a translator in between.

[@tweedy4sg]

The chair umpire decision is FINAL - that's the problem with badminton now.

[@melonusk6120]

5:18 its a terrible call, how on earth did antonsen deserve to get that point ?

[@katawaredokiii]

white umpire and white player. piece it together yourself

[@joaorobalo7594]

@@katawaredokiii Lmao, cope

[@gone117-r8g]

@@katawaredokiii lmfao the self victimization in this comment is insane

[@WL-gx8km]

naraoka fault has it justification. It is called invade. Referee made the proper call to not be bias to either side. Player cannot influence the shuttle while it is still in play. Whether it’s by blowing, swing of racquet to create tiny influence to the shuttlecock. At the split second when the shuttle just hit the net tape, and has not head downwards Naraoka did the swing. Although some may dispute the momentum of the shuttle is not going to go through anyway. But the rule is it is still in play.

[@tonyfranklin8306]

thanks for explaining that for a non badmington person.

[@vinhhien7840]

Net block is an art. Its require anticipation and luck. How can it be an opponent obstruction. BWF should be ashame of those unclear and stupid rule

[@yumross]

Crazy how most of these unfair calls were on chou tien chen

[@ali_anvarian]

👍😔

[@FamousAnonymous888]

Karma 😂😂😂

[@Arcsprite]

Karma for what??

[@Bettahouses]

5:08 absolutely unacceptable 😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@danielpei9859]

12:49 wtf was "I heard you touch the shuttle?????" two fault call in one game is beyond imagination.

[@Daivd1111]

Some of these refs should be fined for these terrible calls!!!

[@FamousAnonymous888]

Not fine, sent to jail 😂😂😂

[@ve_rb]

@@FamousAnonymous888not sent to jail, death penalty 😂😂

[@exhausted117]

5:34 thats ridiculous 😅

[@beck3740]

7:25 life banned for the officials, disgusting

[@thanuthap1004]

The fastest reaction sport in the world, but have no VAR technology like the others. Some important points have effect from misjudging and effect to moral players. What's BWF doing!!!?

[@maidinblueandwhite3443]

BWF has no money and badminton is gonna die .

[@xiaoheluo0521]

10:46 this umpire literally has no eyes

[@BadmintonIsSoFun]

Empire is so dumb I really cannot I wanna kms watching this

[@Arcsprite]

Sorry to say but the lady at 1:40 is correct. Strict but following the rules, you are not allowed to bring the racket even slightly on to the opponent’s side of the net

[@Etude8891]

No! She's wrong.

[@Thomas-xo8dj]

Send this video to bwf plz.Those referees so annoying

[@ronlyon4645]

they put the oldest people and they don't play the sport to be the judge and umpire. wtf? PUT young people who is not blind and actually play the sport.

[@tenainjam7322]

the first one is not that old

[@ivanleo6352]

The more I watch this, the angrier I get with the umpires stupidity and ignorance

[@Gtz32]

we need the a compilation of only danish players complaining😂😂

[@show68channel57]

At 5:53 Can someone tell me who won the showdown between Ginting vs Chou T C ?

[@glydersid7279]

Ginting

[@ongkimchoon7383]

Thank you for the video. My take on most of the situation. Very simply, if the player/s knows that his/her opponent have been wrongly faulted, simply tell them you will serve into net to return the point and service to them. However, if it is BIG money at stake that can be a challenge.

[@adrenaline2002]

You seem to be very optimistic in the honesty or sincerity of people. I truly commend you for that. However, it's probably a bit misplaced. Players may not openly cheat, but none of them will volunteer to declare an error that favours them. This is reality.

[@ongkimchoon7383]

@@adrenaline2002 Not true. There have been numerous occasions. Back in 1982 Thomas Cup, China Han Jian acknowledge to Umpire that the shuttle did touch him. Fast forward Axelsen purposely serve into net when Umpire wrongly faulted opponent and award him a point. In our club weekly games, if you are caught been dishonest, you are put to shame there and then and if you repeat again, the majority will isolate you.

[@nopetynopety]

the ref who called obstruction on chou t c needs to be forced into retiring immediately

[@notcyc]

bwf empire has too much power and lee cheuk yiu is always involved in those cases. most recent case is Singapore open couple weeks back

[@chowlokhang]

Some people never watched badminton, and kept use the word VAR from football. There's already a tech called hawk's eye.

[@attirmizi89]

Mostly umpires just had a thin paper of cert & pass the silly task but not the experiences to take a responsibility on their judgement To old to be umpire... should put them on line judge only

[@SquirrelHY]

One of the best videos of the channle

[@purextc692008]

The rule allows for the shuttle to be struck on your side and the follow through over the net as long as the net isn’t touched. The umpiring in Badminton has been getting worse and worse and i have been playing and watching this sport for 24 years. We need more training for umpires and they really need to know the rules better that is obvious.

[@markchandler7089]

at 4:31, did Axelson's follow-thru hit Lee CyYs racket? That is the only way Lee CY was at fault for obstruction.

[@Rinko8]

"Kenta Momoto"

[@ammarharith5512]

Long lost brother of Kento Nishimota. 😂

[@sheelendrasharma6768]

There should be reviews or challenges available in badminton for calls other than in/out. In this modern, high-tech world, players are facing these wrong calls in top-class tournaments. It's a shame for players who put in so much effort, only to be affected by INCORRECT UMPIRE CALLS.

[@yylng4891]

Agree absolutely. Especially for 'Service Fault' calls that spoiled so many good games.

[@MarcusChan-ed2bh]

1:10 bro that umpire is obstructing the view, oxygen from entering the arena, and is a titanical hazard just sitting there, the chair might break

[@barath_stonie2249]

Thumbnail Umpire was so correct👏

[@Tubenoob86]

Not long until someone quits mid match for a bad call and walks off the court and goes viral

[@amberxIaoAya]

Badminton should allow VAR especially on the net call

[@nithilans3523]

06:43 that's in guys that was not absurd the umpire gave the right decision

[@shaoyang5650]

This is exactly why I said they need to add a challenge to faults. Because umpires can make mistakes. They also need to make the line judges and the service judge able to make calls for faults, or make it so that they can be ask by the umpire if something out of sight happens. Like if the bird touches a player for if the player reaches over the net.

[@dennispablo9150]

I hope there is a law for that 😂 so that player can file some charges against umpires 😅

[@yichenchen9410]

They could just introduce a VCR challenge on Faults, it's so ez... To be honest, I don't blame some of the umpires, it's freaking impossible to see when the shuttle being so fast. I acted as umpire for some small tournaments, man, it's not possible to see.

[@sanskarstudybusiness3535]

What I also see is a huge language barrier problem. The umpire can't properly explain why they called the fault, and the players can't fight back because the umpire won't understand, so the only way things go down is "fault" "no no, no fault" "fault, pass the shuttle".

[@MarcusChan-ed2bh]

11:38 where tf you get momota from thats Kenta nishimoto bruh

[@LeoMessi10...88]

When you put old hags and geezers for umpiring😂

[@ambhat3953]

Since the impotent BWF won't do anything about it, only decent way this can be handled is, If the opponent player gives up a point in favour of the affected player (except maybe when umpire doesnt see when a player challenges, as that's a different issue). Most of the times opponents know what has really happened. And also, that's how Axelsen handled when CTC was unfairly deprived of a point. But ofourse not all have sportsmanship like Axelsen.

[@tinajsiha]

Since we have videos proving the umpire's wrong calls... So, what happen after that? 1. Do the umpires go to the players and apologize? 2. Does BWF take any action or give the umpires white / yellow/ red cards base on how many times or how absurd the wrong calls are made? 3. Does BWF give a damn?

[@AdilPathan-c3y]

Ideal legend empires : Lee chong wee and lin dan

[@titouanchalumeau5425]

I was pissed the whole video😅

[@hoangtuannguyen5310]

it was out, that was my mistake, ridiculous that she cant even count xD

[@pamzaraihing2885]

I think better technology is needed now. From the replays that we can see most of the judgement were very biased/wrong. A player should be allowed to challenge in such cases where it is called fault by the umpire not only for in/out. The replays can be reviewed properly and whether the point has to be given or not must be decided base on that. Seriously the BWF system needs to be reviewed. Its high time to.

[@CatandCook1989]

KENTA MOMOTO! HAHAHAHAHAHA😂😂😂😂

[@Tubenoob86]

Never thought I would see worse refs than nfl and nba but here we are.

[@stoolpigeon4285]

I thought tennis had bad umpires, but these are diabolical.

[@tiwariabhinay868]

3:41 😂

[@MarcusChan-ed2bh]

10:16 watching in in 0.25x speed it was indeed on his side

[@AndyHuynh-y6v]

6:40 nothing wrong with that one, just the danish man throwing a fit because of a line judge call. Nothing umpire could do there

[@Aisi555]

The WBF only using challenges for line judging..and it just an animation! while the tv camera around it using 4K quality..how come they not using VAR?

[@mingle6951]

because they are poor af, even they dragged the prizes for months. what can we expect for them to improve the equipment. They keep talk about push this sport more nationwide, but with this bullshit judging, we just look for it.

[@tokyolofibread]

Is there such rule that one should not raise up their racket straight in front of the net when the opponent is trying to hit the shuttlecock?

[@ShuttleFlash]

No

[@XanderHurley]

As long as you don’t impede the racket swing (or potential swing) then it’s obstruction

[@jeremylee48]

Why are umpires such hard-asses?? Like I get it you've probably had to deal with unruly players before but like.. not even a shred of self-doubt to say "uuuu actually I might have been wrong" especially calls in such crucial moments as well like what??

[@washiwashii]

What exactly is the tournament referee for?

[@crankfastle8138]

Placation. An effort to make the players feel a little better in a no win situation. " Here yell at the manager. It still won't matter."

[@だえもん-g7g]

11:35 Kenta NISHIMOTO + Kent MOMOTA / 2 = Kenta MOMOTO ?

[@bartocastro3672]

I think obstruction rule are absurd. As long the racquet didn't gone over the net, it should be allow. And I think BWF should add another line below the net, to determine whether player cross their foot across opponent half or not.

[@kennytanification]

Most of those umpires don't even look like they have stepped on a court for the last 3 years. Ridiculous. What's all the slow mo replays for if they can't use it for such controversial calls

[@sabeehbigboii6439]

why can't the umpires review back the footage and then make the judgement if everyone is agreeing it was not correct judgement call?

[@engleelim2508]

You can see that most bad calls are from one umpire.

[@PepsiColaRhapsody]

Its a fast sport and sometimes umpire made mistakes in their judgment. But ignoring players like that is pathetic.

[@newjourney9220]

Should have a video on service judges. They were really sucks

[@SilveRWingZ4]

Blaming the officials for their lack of experience and understanding of the physical mechanics of badminton is one thing, but why is sportsmanship and integrity completely dead among the players? It's a rhetorical question.

[@CuthbertCalcalas]

I guess when you are competing in a high-level tournament for thousands of dollars its easy to just take it and go

[@triggerfinger7831]

​@user-ej6dy5wz6n true, but we still see some bits of fair play in other sports but badminton? Almost zero.

[@TheJq32]

Wait I just started watching badminton bc of the Paris Olympics, why doesn’t the sport have video replay like VAR?

[@chanyatlonguri123]

the BWF is probably too poor to have VAR for net play, they only have one for line judgements (whether in or out). Olympics have video replay but the umpire wouldn’t watch the replay in most cases. BWF competitions judgements are made by umpires.

[@anubhavpandey5560]

Why are we not using technology in this sport???? every sport is using except badminton..... disgusting umpires 😡

[@JR-1983]

As the opponent if you know you have touched it, then just give the next point away

[@adrenaline2002]

The amount of clear and obvious errors being committed by the umpires are beyond shocking. Why are the umpires not allowed to access instant replays to check the validity of their decision? Is the pride or reputation of the umpire more important than getting decisions correct? Are they all omnipotent? If we acknowledge that they are human, and are not perfect, then we should be providing them with the tools to make the best possible decision. Watching some of these videos would suggest that many umpires are arrogant and have no self-awareness or insight that maybe, just maybe, they could be wrong. Frankly, it's ludicrous that BWF allows incidents like these to continue. Everytime there is a mistake, BWF needs to come out and declare the error openly to all. That's what professionalism is. As long as BWF continues to allow such lunacy, the sport will not progress.

[@kimyeap1124]

9.03 wonder what is on his mind now that replay has shown he was mistaken. Honest mistake I grant him though. Controversial points should be able to be challenged by video replay. Umpires are given allowances and have normal jobs plus often travel at their own cost. So to assist them in such a quick sport, video replay would assist them as well.

[@changwenging4079]

When the umpire ask to play after a wrong call the player should give the racket to the umpire and ask the umpire to play and walk off the court

[@ve_rb]

4:29 Axelsen is a 🐍

[@mashoqyousafzai]

Just speechless for the arrogant behavior from judges and how the hell in 21 century bwf ist not able to have VAR 😂

[@audiovizualisforditasiszol5843]

13:54 it was not out service?

[@ShuttleFlash]

Umpires never overrule when a clear mistake is made by the line judge. And in this case, the umpire overruled the correct call from the line judge. So Yamaguchi had to challenge to get her point back.

[@moshfiq]

Yes umpires are human too. And thats why the use of Hawkeye should be more included. That is just carelessness from the organizers/game rule makers.

[@zainalabidinibrahim8007]

I saw european umpires mostly biased to their own european players, what a shame

[@ckw1291]

The Quality of umpires are really atrocious. Bwf shld have a system like VAR in soccer to solve this problem. I hope all umpires have watched this video

[@Nikota-r6w]

Bro why is it always chou t.c always getting wrong calls??? i dont understand. does people hate him??

[@muhammadhuda22]

the most embarassing referee/umpire in sports is in badminton. too many mistakes and no one can overrule their call. their stubborness is second to none even if its horrible call. even official i rarely saw support the players, only service judge sometimes help, but its so seldom. sickening.

[@huangsteven8111]

The Badminton World Federation's refereeing mechanism has a problem! Ridiculous decisions have occurred time and again, and there is no error correction mechanism ！

[@02.aoonganh35]

chou seems to have alot of beef with umpires he always get faulted💀😢

[@fendylorenzo47]

1:37 that's clearly foul😊no doubt

[@nev4044]

Bwf needs to put more money into the technology to challenge these calls, that way it cannot be argued. Unfortunately they only care about pocketing more of the profits and returning as little as possible back into the game. Greedy people.

[@CCYTransport-961U7]

All the problems are made in umpires🤷

[@bree-zen]

9:58 so this guy appeared multiple times

[@warwicksworkshop9511]

There's some absolutely atrocious decisions made this season. They should have a 'referee hawkeye' where they're allowed two challenges to rules of law.

[@NehaArshad1904]

Bro the people or some authorities watching should also be given a right to make a decision on the umpires calls. And if it’s blatantly wrong, let the player that deserves the point actually get it. Especially those two times for Chou T.C. Like, nah that was so messed up. And the clear out which was called in at 7 so,etching, nah. Absolute violation.

[@theoloire9900]

What's the call at 4:45?

[@ShuttleFlash]

The umpire called a fault because he thought the shuttle hit the floor first before the shot was made

[@ojoltrekelan221]

Challenge should not be only for in/out call but to all sector

[@jawei2844]

10:27 I would be so furious

[@taulanthalimi6837]

What is happening in 11:26

[@sameershah141]

Wrong name. 😅

[@geminiistu]

Why dont they just use the replay footage to confirm the calls. They should have a monitor for that.

[@baktijunior9789]

sistem badminton challenge agak mundur. utk yg lain buat la VAR mcm bola sepak atau takraw.

[@TheMENFIN]

Certaines décisions ça sent quand même l'arbitre payé

[@Creepa-cm8kz]

Why always happens to CTC?