Sick People or Sick Society?

Sick People or Sick Society? | Steffi Bednarek

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@guapochino140 5 ай бұрын

Adam Curtis talks about the way the social protest movements of the 60s and 70s turned inwards and became focused on self help and personal image in the 80s, with Jane Fonda being the poster child. Instead of changing society, change yourself to live your best life. I see something similar happening in these times with the ability for anyone to create their own identity based on how they feel, as long as it does not challenge the economic system.

@MattAngiono 5 ай бұрын

Capitalism will "recuperate" anything it can, even our anti establishment tendencies or mental health. Anything but let us challenge it in any real way

@m.dgaius6430 4 ай бұрын

@guapochino140 where does Curtis discuss this exactly? I like his work and would love to hone in on where this is mentioned

@guapochino140 3 ай бұрын

@@m.dgaius6430 The Century of the Self (2002) 4 part series

@guapochino140 3 ай бұрын

@@m.dgaius6430 The Century of the Self

@Jibbolino 3 ай бұрын

Such an excellent discussion. Thank you both for taking time to discuss things and ideas that actually matter. Planet Critical is one of the most important YT channels today. Thanks Rachel :)

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 5 ай бұрын

In Traditional Chinese medicine sadness is a lung blockage. So from my qigong training I experienced someone else's sadness - I was in full lotus padmasana at work. My coworker walked in and we made eye contact - he never said anything or had any expression. I was suddenly overwhelmed by his sadness and I blurted out, "why are you so sad!" Before he could say anything then I remembered he smoked and he had just smoked and walked up three flights of stairs - before his work started. So then I said, "You know smoking causes depression." He was in shock but we had discussed energy healing before - he quit smoking soon after - he was only 24 years old at the time. He later came to me for energy healing - I just did them free at work and he would ask for a quick charge up. hahahaha. Then he pursued his dream of becoming a psychology counselor - out in California. This was working at an environmental nonprofit.

@flickwtchr 5 ай бұрын

You can be sad without a lung blockage.

@casey2806 5 ай бұрын

@@flickwtchr most likely. However, I believe our friend is attempting to share the story without delving into the entire realm of Chinese medicine. It is highly probable that regardless of the amount of detail provided in the story, someone would still nitpick or quibble about specific details.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 5 ай бұрын

@@flickwtchr I just relied on what the pineal gland told me - actually it was the Yuan Qi which is a nonlocal ether. I suppose people call it God or whatever - the closest science explanation is noncommutative nonlocal nondualism.

@danielcolman5064 3 ай бұрын

Simply wonderful. Thank you both.Rachel you are superb.

@Slick-666 5 ай бұрын

Here I go commenting before I finish the whole video again. This time I made it 2 whole minutes lol. A close friend of mine has turned me onto the idea of oneness. It seems simple but it really has helped me understand our global connection. We all share a common ancestor somewhere down the line; be it mammalian or otherwise. Every living thing on this earth is connected in a direct line of survivors. I'm sure I'll have another comment at some point. Thanks Rachel, and thanks Steffi!

@MattAngiono 5 ай бұрын

You could also just look at electromagnetism and realize that "things" are actually fields and are very fuzzy. An electric charge isn't really a separate thing but just a concentration of energy. In this sense, everything about us is overlapping fields of energy that extend to infinity in very minor ways. While those things become statistically negligible, they still are interacting on some level. We are part of a single process called the universe which isn't even "moving through time" (another thing we verify in physics). This is why non duality is actually just as much a truthful statement as it is some spiritual belief system. We simply are all connected as one thing, while also having a consciousness that is individual and localized. It's not one thing, nor two things, it's non dual... Hope that helps some

@MattAngiono 5 ай бұрын

And yes, biologically speaking, you're right too. What's really interesting is looking at mitochondria and the genetic connection behind that, showing we have a single human ancestor in the distant past. Check it out!

@rapauli 5 ай бұрын

We are afraid of calling this a totally new predicament - something more threatening than anything our world has ever seen. Pogo said, " We have met the Enemy, and He is Us"

@halphantom2274 3 ай бұрын

"We do not _feel_ what we are doing. Remember? I spoke about the primacy of the felt moment of experience. If we could _feel_ what we are doing, we would stop doing it. But between us and the consequences of our action there are endless veils of political rhetoric, stultification, denial, sedation, intoxication, ideological delusion." "we see the consequences of not-feeling all around us. The toxification of the Earth, the toleration of overpopulation-and the institutions that promote it-is all achieved through a deadening of feeling. If we could _feel_ what we are doing-to the Earth, to the elderly, to the young, to racial and social minorities-if we could _feel_ the agony of what we do, we would stop doing it." - Terence McKenna

@dandantheideasman 5 ай бұрын

Another amazing episode such calming and settling words/gems of wisdom. Thank you 🙏

@GeoffBurns-zu3xz 5 ай бұрын

In Maori culture, the earth is the mother and the sky is the father

@tedratcliffe2498 4 ай бұрын

I liked this one. Keep up the excellent work.

@sopsych18 5 ай бұрын

Very interesting subject!

@Peace2051 5 ай бұрын

Rachel, thank you for this very needed topic. Any chance you could eventually interview Léna Lazare, which is eventually of great need?

@missshroom5512 5 ай бұрын

You ladies are so beautiful inside and out. Keep up the great work🌎☀️💙 I garden and purposefully plant butterfly and hummingbird plants. I have seen zero hummingbirds this year and 3 Monarchs. It is already Aug 28th😞

@Slick-666 5 ай бұрын

At least we still have bees :/

@MattAngiono 5 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that. At least here in Boulder, the hummingbirds have been around this year. Butterflies are definitely far less common these days. I used to collect them as a kid and they were everywhere. Not so much anymore

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 5 ай бұрын

There's 30 million people starving right now in Africa from abrupt global warming and related conflicts - hopefully they are getting food aid - mainly around the Sudan area.

@johncarter1150 4 ай бұрын

That's a constant and disturbing reality.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 4 ай бұрын

@@johncarter1150 actually this year is the worst and it's accelerating fast. Nigeria, Sudan, Yemen all have starvation going on - some 50 million people in "acute" need of food assistance.

@DrMattColborn 4 ай бұрын

The individualistic approach has been extended to neuroscience. I recently saw a video by David Eagleman "why brains get depressed " Not people in an unhealthy system. Brains! This is known in my trade as the mereological fallacy -- the attribution of a property of a whole person to a part. But the brain disease model of distress feeds into what you're talking about.

@jacquesvincelette6692 5 ай бұрын

On the matter of fatherly mothering, my 9 year daughter old still occasionally calls me 'maddy' or 'mapa'; a jab at mental health or anima. My own or my society?

@johncarter1150 4 ай бұрын

In this moment reality could not be any other way. Dilemma of living with resulting rational anxiety and then depression. There is nowhere when I die. Universe continues expanding ever changing.... my little glimpse cesases.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 5 ай бұрын

James Hillman was inspired by Marie Von Franz - she was a very cool depth psychologist.

@futureproof.health 5 ай бұрын

Thermodynamics is a very unforgiving boundary

@TennesseeJed 5 ай бұрын

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@MyKharli Ай бұрын

Ban food adverts .

@trunoholdaway2114 4 ай бұрын

You ever feel smart but then listen to two really intelligent people talk then feel like a dumb shit.🤣 Maybe it was all the womanly metaphors that went over my head. I was actually thinking about climate anger today, it is completely justified and there are so many people to be angry at. Evenso there's a certain helplessness that you have to surrender to in this situation. The political dynamic of anger is complicated. On one side we have people who refuse to engage with anger, preferring to be more civilized, and do things through the proper channels. On the other we have people who are angery but they're angry at the wrong people and for the wrong reasons. A side effect of living in a highly propagandized society. For me this just adds to the frustration and helplessness as my righteous anger can never be acted upon without others to back me up. I mean I could, but then I'm just a lone nut job throwing pebbles at the machine. I've also read enough to know that intelligence agencies are very sophisticated and practiced in undermining real grassroot movements. Then there's the surveillance state that would squash any movement before it even started. So I'm just left with this anger, it's a strong motivator that I want to harness for change but I don't have any choice but to sit with it as the world burns. Watching the people responsible gather billions and use even more fossil fuels living high consumption lifestyles as I struggle just to survive. Sadness I've been sad, I've been so sad I can't even be sad anymore. But this anger it stays with me and I've got nowhere to put it.