Sid Vicious - The Vermorel Interview

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@buddyholly3527
@buddyholly3527 6 жыл бұрын
Love him or hate him one thing about Sid is he’s brutally honest whether it hurts your feelings or not and that’s one thing I like and respect about him.
@prpwnage9296
@prpwnage9296 3 жыл бұрын
He's not that honest, he admits it in the first two minutes
@pttheuk
@pttheuk 2 жыл бұрын
He's not "grown-up", he doesn't have much to say: 18:49 "A Change is a change, right, so if something changes, it is different, it has to be, obviously, it can't be the same, otherwise .. . And the next question?"
@geslinam9703
@geslinam9703 2 жыл бұрын
He makes me sick. Ever since I watched that documentary where someone talked in detail about how he brutally killed someone’s pet cat…ugh.
@tinamitchell7496
@tinamitchell7496 Жыл бұрын
Just great to hear him sober and equally great to not hear Nancy at all. He was always thoughtful, just struggled to articulate his thoughts, heroin didn't improve that. He understood the world, he clearly spent a lot of time listening to John. He mirrors John a lot and then expands on those ideas himself. Shame he didn't listen to John when it really counted, but as he said here, he cannot do something he doesn't want to do. His journey was his own. John has long struggled with not being able to save Sid from himself (or from Nancy's influence), when in reality he never did a chance of achieving that. John did the right thing by offering to help, drawing his line in the sand and then getting on with his own life which was already complicated enough. John was always there for him if he needed him, but there were bright lines (no heroin and therefore no Nancy). John was right to not facilitate his addiction, it was Lydon tough love before tough love became a thing. It's exactly as his parents taught him.
@realsinisterminister
@realsinisterminister Жыл бұрын
@@geslinam9703 But ya just cant get enough of him can you?
@heymimmz
@heymimmz 10 жыл бұрын
the drugs really dulled who sid vicious really is. he was much more than what we mostly saw of him.
@stephenspark9358
@stephenspark9358 5 жыл бұрын
I Agree
@waynesilverman3048
@waynesilverman3048 2 жыл бұрын
Yes especially in flesh and soul as see in that American KZbin b n white vid with Nancy and dead boys singer ect
@Byrontheone
@Byrontheone 11 жыл бұрын
A very perceptive high flyer. He wasn't a dummy, but definitely an addict. So are many rockers. This interview should be preserved; Life goes on with you or without you. C'est la chose.
@buddyholly3527
@buddyholly3527 6 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda eerie hearing him say that’s why I’ll die before I’m twenty four if not sooner.
@markporter1901
@markporter1901 4 жыл бұрын
This is a much different Sid to the public persona. Lucid, inquisitive. Very interesting.
@treondousjackson5238
@treondousjackson5238 4 жыл бұрын
This guy did have a point though about society, he was smarter than people thought he was. From what I understand he could actually play the bass, he would stay up all night practicing and he would end up mastering it the next day. Yeah its a shame the drugs got to him and he never had a positive influence in his life to tell him no but he lived his life the way he lived it and left behind a legacy that will forever be remembered amongst all the greats. He is the Prince Of Punk !
@Feliciaseeleybaeornooot
@Feliciaseeleybaeornooot 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! This right here.
@deb8498
@deb8498 3 жыл бұрын
Prince of Punk Perfect title for him.. Love your words.. 🕊🌿
@dalakerdaniel9240
@dalakerdaniel9240 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in Powder John ☠️💣☠️ 🖤
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 2 жыл бұрын
The recordings of his playing say otherwise. Glen Matlock leaving was the death blow to this band.
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU 2 жыл бұрын
Godfather Joey RAMONE President Johnny RAMONE King Johnny Lydon Prince Sid vicious Jester Steve Jones n DEE DEE
@octobersun221
@octobersun221 2 жыл бұрын
He was a hell if a lot more articulate than I was at 20.
@SweetNightmareASMR
@SweetNightmareASMR 2 жыл бұрын
I always come back to this interview. I could listen to him talk all day 🖤
@hughbetcha436
@hughbetcha436 7 жыл бұрын
This is a bloody good interview!
@bellasue02
@bellasue02 4 жыл бұрын
Can't believe Nancy wasn't around to butt in and cut him off
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 3 жыл бұрын
She is there in the background...
@hughbetcha436
@hughbetcha436 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesecondKZbin she probably just 💉 up some dope and was quieter than usual 😄
@desertrose1226
@desertrose1226 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully well spoken guy. He wasn't a moron, he played the moron. I have the same idea as Sid about grown ups, they do my head in with their rules I'm over 30 now and haven't grown up.
@bookreaderson
@bookreaderson 4 жыл бұрын
Fukin right . Same
@bookreaderson
@bookreaderson 4 жыл бұрын
Papa Lazarou pollution rocks man. And deforestation rules !!!!
@bookreaderson
@bookreaderson 4 жыл бұрын
Papa Lazarou I still don’t understand what that means. Sounds like One of those words those antifa high school drop outs use to sound smarter. Globalist. Lol. Ya I live in a globe. Not a flat earth
@anaeidiss
@anaeidiss 4 жыл бұрын
cringe
@prpwnage9296
@prpwnage9296 3 жыл бұрын
He was a moron
@davidk6271
@davidk6271 4 жыл бұрын
Odd, sitting here in 2020 listening to Sid talking in 1978.
@callumhunter4540
@callumhunter4540 4 жыл бұрын
Thought I was the only one!
@ImantaBabite
@ImantaBabite 4 жыл бұрын
The audio is from August 1977.
@danielaschwarz1971
@danielaschwarz1971 3 жыл бұрын
I wish we had the 70s again.I would like to meet him.❤ 2020 is so bad😳
@danielaschwarz1971
@danielaschwarz1971 3 жыл бұрын
@@lejlatiric7037 What language do you speak??
@liquidvizionsmadferit
@liquidvizionsmadferit 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you find it odd?
@jameswindels-lyte1032
@jameswindels-lyte1032 Жыл бұрын
He went to school with some of my mates mums in High Brooms, Tunbridge Wells, he was a really shy fellow according to them
@idioticdingus
@idioticdingus 9 ай бұрын
Lol
@SuperStrik9
@SuperStrik9 9 жыл бұрын
Sid was brilliant. The guy could see through all the bullshit in society and called it like it was. The more people like that the better.
@damienholland8103
@damienholland8103 5 жыл бұрын
It's a natural inclination but also very alienating. I think a small segment of every society is born to be this way and it might have some kind of evolutionary purpose.
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
@@damienholland8103 Most of the intelligent and insightful people don't reproduce so....
@choieng
@choieng 5 жыл бұрын
SuperStrik9 do not glorify Sid Vicious
@tats5880
@tats5880 5 жыл бұрын
So brilliant, he got away with murder. So brilliant he could play 3 or 4 notes on the bass guitar. Wow he's my hero!!! Oh let's not forget how he could shoot heroin threw his arm, that's some brilliant shit that is..
@danabrahams7892
@danabrahams7892 4 жыл бұрын
@@choieng why not?
@bookreaderson
@bookreaderson 4 жыл бұрын
Sid sounds hella intelligent tho
@desertrose1226
@desertrose1226 4 жыл бұрын
He was. He was a clever guy who played stupid & who did stupid things.
@swampdonkey4919
@swampdonkey4919 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear something that paints him as a human being and not a cartoon character.
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 3 ай бұрын
I like the cartoonish aspect,same with Johnny.
@aidsofspades7622
@aidsofspades7622 10 жыл бұрын
Sid Vicious was a fucking brilliant man, not much like him left.
@miskay5526
@miskay5526 10 жыл бұрын
When Sid talks about his disdain for grown ups and movies he sounds like Holden Caulfield lol. But this is really an amazing interview. Sid was truly one of a kind, RIP kiddo.
@rickweber7734
@rickweber7734 10 жыл бұрын
..I spotted the "Catcher in the Rye" reference you made, and you're spot on with that one, indeed..most of the interviews I've heard with Sid, he talks about, his disdain with adults, and those in authority, and his desire to always be that of a child and remarks about living a shortened life span..this interview is much more coherent, and relaxed..other people, that have known him, swear that they can't draw a strait line between John Beverly and the Sid Vicious persona..
@stephenspark9358
@stephenspark9358 5 жыл бұрын
I Prefer Holden Caulfield ,that being said neither exist any more do you know what I mean EHHH...
@tinamitchell7496
@tinamitchell7496 Жыл бұрын
Just great to hear him sober and equally great to not hear Nancy at all. He was always thoughtful, just struggled to articulate his thoughts, heroin didn't improve that. He understood the world, he clearly spent a lot of time listening to John. He mirrors John a lot and then expands on those ideas himself. Shame he didn't listen to John when it really counted, but as he said here, he cannot do something he doesn't want to do. His journey was his own. John has long struggled with not being able to save Sid from himself (or from Nancy's influence), when in reality he never stood a chance of achieving that. John did the right thing by offering to help, drawing his line in the sand and then getting on with his own life which was already complicated enough. John was always there for him if he needed him, but there were bright lines (no heroin and therefore no Nancy). John was right to not facilitate his addiction, it was Lydon tough love before tough love became a thing. It's exactly as his parents taught him.
@hgreen8666
@hgreen8666 Жыл бұрын
I like Lydon a lot. He was a prick sometimes but he’s alright. The love he had and still carries for Nora is absolutely beautiful. I like Sid too. He was honest and thoughtful. He became an arsehole after the heroin ruined him. I feel sorry for how his short life turned out.
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 3 ай бұрын
"" He mirrors John a lot "" or maybe John mirrors Sid
@doctorvonbrown881
@doctorvonbrown881 4 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Sid and Nancy! Long live the Sex pistols. Great interview!
@philipsanders9192
@philipsanders9192 5 жыл бұрын
Now I know why people didn't like him .Because he was honest!!!!!!!!!
@lejlatiric7037
@lejlatiric7037 4 жыл бұрын
True
@LaughingatpainUSAway
@LaughingatpainUSAway 13 жыл бұрын
very great to see this able to be listened to, its pretty damn rare, and a great deep conversation/Interview
@callumjones8562
@callumjones8562 10 жыл бұрын
I love Sid he's so funny
@rockjam4534
@rockjam4534 Жыл бұрын
Sid knew a lot than what most people think or give him credit for. The public perception would only hear about what they saw or heard on Mainstream. There was no Internet back then things like interviews such as this one was rare for the public compared to today's time's. I would have loved to have known what his religious views were.
@AlexKing29353
@AlexKing29353 5 жыл бұрын
He was really well spoken. His use of the english language was great haha
@StephenKramerstevefunk
@StephenKramerstevefunk 10 жыл бұрын
Rotten said it best " Vicious....Poor Sod..."
@tombelanovic7686
@tombelanovic7686 Жыл бұрын
Actually, I'm quite impressed with his vocabulary and eloquence. But then, this IS the first time I'd heard him being so articulate and coherent. If ever there was a person who never should have fiddled with dope! He had the potential.
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 3 ай бұрын
He should never have fiddled with Nancy either.
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
I find this interview very relaxing. I've been fascinating in Sid Vicious since the 8th of January 2019.
@jasonreese2088
@jasonreese2088 5 жыл бұрын
I'm fascinated with Sid too.
@desertrose1226
@desertrose1226 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Reese me too. And Nancy also.
@michaelwilson6483
@michaelwilson6483 2 жыл бұрын
His comments about work are spot on. More people need to be honest about how they feel working in jobs they hate
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn`t make any difference and be boring as hell to hear.
@alexanderkelly3496
@alexanderkelly3496 2 жыл бұрын
First introduced to Sid through my brother in 79' just after he passed. Immediately loved his look. I was 13. He were angry n' fucked up. Didn't believe it for a second. I wasn't. But he appealed. Been a fan since. On ya Sid.
@jeffstewart4648
@jeffstewart4648 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vintage interview. Absolutely great.
@leeh6811
@leeh6811 11 жыл бұрын
He was the only bloke, with any anarchy left.
@rodneylee4026
@rodneylee4026 5 жыл бұрын
And he's dead and the others aren't. Brilliant..
@danielaschwarz1971
@danielaschwarz1971 4 жыл бұрын
Sid was really beautiful and kind hearted before Nancy and the drugs took it out of him. ...So sad
@zombie4skin28
@zombie4skin28 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielaschwarz1971 stop sugarcoating, he was pretty cool but he wasn’t some fucking angel he was punk
@mikem3875
@mikem3875 3 жыл бұрын
He was actually a pretty articulate dude, a little bitter maybe for a 20yr old kid but definitely honest.
@rrdream2400
@rrdream2400 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting Sid said one way the band changed since he joined is the songs got faster. Lydon said on an interview the key to their sound was the songs weren't fast, they were actually slow and that's why the album sounded so explosive. You could also hear Lydon fed up at sound check of their last gig a song was too fast.
@reedca97
@reedca97 11 жыл бұрын
sid was a whole lot smarter than people said he was.
@rachiehambling-brown788
@rachiehambling-brown788 6 жыл бұрын
Sid was definitely a whole lot smarter than people said he was.
@desertrose1226
@desertrose1226 5 жыл бұрын
Yes he was. Well spoken kid.
@stephenspark9358
@stephenspark9358 5 жыл бұрын
@@desertrose1226 Really?
@adrianbrowne7962
@adrianbrowne7962 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview which " Completely Dispelled The Myth " Of Sid Vicious and " Actually Highlighted His Intelligence " !!! And His " Chillingly Accurate Prophecy" Of his death is even now " Very Compelling " !!! From Adrian Browne 1965
@ScreaminModelKits
@ScreaminModelKits 7 жыл бұрын
"Ramones are my favourite group" ...Me too
@beefheart1410
@beefheart1410 8 жыл бұрын
Finally, I think people who romanticise Sid to the extent that they think he was "a sweet boy" or "great" or would like to have known him and hung out with him are deluding themselves. The chaos that both inhabits and surrounds such a damaged personality would have made such associations very unenjoyable indeed. Unless one would enjoy constant antagonism, violence, aggression, dirt, squalor, discomfort, depression, self harm and chaotic hard drug use then, trust me, you would not enjoy hanging out with Sid, or find him a "sweet boy". I'm not talking about John Beverley here of course : you can still hear the last remnants of Beverley in an interview such as this. Rather, I'm talking about the "Sid" persona which he, initially, adopted and then quickly subsumed him. Remember, this all happened very very quickly: from the adoption of "Sid" to death was less than eighteen months! Indeed, in a sense, "Sid" was simply John Beverley's suicide not. I don't mean intentionally but I do mean inevitably. So, no, whatever John Beverley was, "Sid" was not a "sweet boy" and I doubt most of us would have liked to hang out with him. Don't let the romantic notions of an archetype fool you: this was dark.
@DjangoThunders
@DjangoThunders 7 жыл бұрын
A horse thought and he died.
@damienholland8103
@damienholland8103 5 жыл бұрын
Third interview and I'm not hearing the 'high intelligence' people keep attributing to Sid. I like his rebellious attitude about society -- something I share -- but that's where the interest ends.
@andreaphelps3357
@andreaphelps3357 4 жыл бұрын
Beefheart1 I loved him
@ThePufriel
@ThePufriel 9 жыл бұрын
Punk legend forever.
@danielaschwarz1971
@danielaschwarz1971 8 жыл бұрын
Great One ....SID was so lovely.....love him!!!!LEGEND´S never die but so many died now like Lemmy and David Bowie...that make me sad and sick:(((( They was all LEGEND´s like SID
@The000clash000
@The000clash000 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielaschwarz1971 he kill a cat just to see what it felt like.....lovely guy...
@danielaschwarz1971
@danielaschwarz1971 3 жыл бұрын
@@The000clash000 Sid was a lovely guy before the hard drugs and Nancy took it out of him!!!
@dallaire3345
@dallaire3345 4 жыл бұрын
When Sid and Nancy died, they were respectively 21 and 20. I was stupid at that age also. Well, not that stupid but still. They were kids.
@misterr279
@misterr279 3 жыл бұрын
Nancy didn’t have the comfort of “dying” she was brutally MURDERED by Sid??.
@lucasrichards5793
@lucasrichards5793 3 жыл бұрын
@@misterr279 he almost certainly didn’t do it
@lrn_news9171
@lrn_news9171 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterr279 It's possible that he didn't do it because he was so fucked up on drugs that he would have been passed out the entire night
@theblackwholemy
@theblackwholemy 2 жыл бұрын
He probably did kill her. They were in love but had an awful domestic violence relationship.
@lrn_news9171
@lrn_news9171 2 жыл бұрын
@@theblackwholemy Probably didn't even realize it, blacked out and didn't remember from all the drugs and booze
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this AN INCREDIBLE INTERVIEW UNFORTUNATELY NOT TO MANY GOOD SID INTERVIEWS EXIST
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 2 жыл бұрын
because almost all were done when he was high as a kite and controlled by nancy
@zzzxx1474
@zzzxx1474 5 жыл бұрын
To everyone who hates on Sids musical ability and intellect rewind to 10:00 and he gives you your answer. Also every true punk knows it was all about the anti musician.
@filipematias5127
@filipematias5127 5 жыл бұрын
@Abu Hajaar : You know nothing about the punk rock scene!
@sixsixxsixxxx
@sixsixxsixxxx 4 жыл бұрын
@Anderson Cooper it was on live
@BigSky1
@BigSky1 2 жыл бұрын
Sid always sounds like a copy of John Lydon when he speaks. The intonation in his voice and the sarcasm is like listening to Lydon. Listening to Sid is always like listening to a child. I suppose he was one still at only 20.
@andysandel9325
@andysandel9325 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Brilliant Classic Memorable Interesting Interview 😎🔗❤🔒🖇
@blakeburwell2002
@blakeburwell2002 4 жыл бұрын
12:03 If Sid was around for the Sid & Nancy movie he would've hated it!🤣🤣
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
This was recorded late September '77 because he mentioned Marc Bolan's car crash.
@stephenrafter1022
@stephenrafter1022 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't like civilization.and how it ran. I can see his point.
@novo611
@novo611 3 жыл бұрын
Rip. Sid 🙏
@Paul77ozee
@Paul77ozee 3 жыл бұрын
My late uncle use to say “l’m here for a good time. Not a long time”. He passed in 2000.
@smkxodnwbwkdns8369
@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 2 жыл бұрын
How old was he
@Paul77ozee
@Paul77ozee 2 жыл бұрын
@@smkxodnwbwkdns8369 l think he was in his early 40s. He was the youngest of 7 siblings and the first to go.
@GriefTourist
@GriefTourist 5 жыл бұрын
Sid's nihilism was an honest approach to the fundamental pointlessness of existence
@wilwolf4126
@wilwolf4126 8 жыл бұрын
Sid playing some ramones songs on his bass
@mattkaustickomments
@mattkaustickomments 4 жыл бұрын
Sid playing ALL the Ramones songs on his bass.
@paulgriffiths1062
@paulgriffiths1062 2 жыл бұрын
Yep Nothing wrong with that.
@blakejohnson7148
@blakejohnson7148 4 жыл бұрын
He's brilliant!....like performance art....bloody hilarious!....I laughed the whole way through!
@andystephens2070
@andystephens2070 2 жыл бұрын
Love this interview. The real Sid. 💯 On form. Saying it as it is..Noticed the sound of the rolling bass of Anarchy in the U.K.. R.i.P punk Rock 🧷 Ledgend.
@999therocker
@999therocker 8 жыл бұрын
He was the most positive person ever bar none! He was a trip.
@desertrose1226
@desertrose1226 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he even makes my husband seem happy and jolly!
@randybackgammon890
@randybackgammon890 2 жыл бұрын
I'd hate to see your definition of negative!
@oscarpintochoque474
@oscarpintochoque474 2 жыл бұрын
Gracias por esta entrevista, Que de Dios goces gran Sid
@BenKrisfield
@BenKrisfield 2 жыл бұрын
He’s actually quite articulate and definitely able think logically. Shame the drugs got him
@jasonreese2088
@jasonreese2088 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting interview. Thanks for posting.
@JETJOOBOY
@JETJOOBOY 4 жыл бұрын
"They were fucking great the spades at that college"!
@chetk123chet
@chetk123chet 9 жыл бұрын
sid's been my hero since i was 14, the more i learn about him, the more i love him. hate nancy! my poor poor sidney!
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 8 жыл бұрын
Why is he your hero? His inability to play base? His talent at nothing? Don't get me wrong, I like Sid, but I liked Glen Matlock a lot better.
@jwhiteout
@jwhiteout 8 жыл бұрын
I like your inability to SPELL bass...
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 8 жыл бұрын
Ha wow yeah I boned that one. The point was the content not the spelling... Sid's no hero.
@JoshuaCraigStrain
@JoshuaCraigStrain 7 жыл бұрын
He wasn't a brilliant bassist , but he COULD play . Listen to the last show they played at Winterland .
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
The more you learn about Nancy the more you should see they were made for each other. Astrological & their experiences with opiates early in life. Him having a heavily drug addicted mother and her being given legal opiates at three months old to deal with her emotional issues and nightmares.
@kirbyspencer
@kirbyspencer 11 жыл бұрын
Everyone slags his bass playing off, but from this I can recognise a number of sex pistol songs. He is not bad in this recording. Maybe the drugs made him bad at it.
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 3 ай бұрын
Drugs make people bad at everything,and turns them into bores.
@karllux-d6g
@karllux-d6g Жыл бұрын
I was watching this and all of sudden ''it '' hit me : Sid died 44 years ago!!!...and I remember it ... Time, you know...
@andreaphelps3357
@andreaphelps3357 4 жыл бұрын
Will always love Sid
@garethglitter5932
@garethglitter5932 5 жыл бұрын
Totally, totally TOTALLY correct 9:58
@xEdddie
@xEdddie 11 жыл бұрын
Sid was playing Ramones bass licks :D I heard "Now I wanna Sniff Some Glue" :D
@guynelson2341
@guynelson2341 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@erowal1
@erowal1 4 жыл бұрын
And the best motivational speaker award goes to......
@beefheart1410
@beefheart1410 8 жыл бұрын
It's strange that people believe Sid would still be here if he hadn't met Nancy. Some people just haven't got it in them to live a long life and he was always one of those. He was obviously a very damaged boy. I could never understand why this image was built around him that he was unintelligent in particular. I'm not claiming he was overly intelligent either but you only have to listen to him speak: behind the posing braggadocio he was quite clearly of an average intelligence. The problem with his relationship with Nancy was that it created a folie adeux. If it hadn't been Nancy however, he would have found his end in someone similar. My feeling is that Nancy possibly had either a bi-polar disorder and / or a psychotic illness and this was compounded by a personality disorder. Sid never seemed to have a psychiatric illness but did seem to have a personality disorder. Personalities such as this do tend to (subconsciously) seek each other out. When such personalities get together they compound each other and the results can be disasterous. The difficulty for those around such people is that the bond between the two individuals is massive and based in a (subconscious or not) recognition of a shared pathology leading them to become solipsistic in regards to their relationship. You can see a similar dynamic in serial killing couples like Brady and Hindley for example. Sid had all the components in place from his childhood that would result in what happened to him: a physically rootless existence, a drug addicted, weak or emotionally absent parental figure, no other stable adult figures in his life. Such a profile can cause massive damage. He had an unstable personality which probably lead to his strong adoption of a fantasy ego persona: the punk rock star. Bowie had always talked about getting psychologically lost in his Ziggy Stardust persona; for John Beverley, the "Sid Vicious" character was such a confusion in extremis. Of course he was scathing of adults: he was not equipped to become one either psychologically or emotionally and never had anything but a negative experience with adults. There was never going to be a way out for such a person: he ended up completely subsumed and lost in an invented character because, what ever there was left of John Beverley was a million miles away behind layers of drugs, fame and fantasy. So, no, Nancy wasn't to blame. She was just as doomed in my opinion, but, if Sid hadn't met her, it would have been someone or something else damaging that he sought out to fill the void. I suspect the reason why people who knew him prior to joining the Pistols couldn't equate that person with what he became was due to a few factors: firstly, they were kids themselves, and kids tend to be less analytic and more accepting of things at face value. Secondly, Sid - or John - hadn't reached crisis point: A few differing stressors occurred to him in quick succession in the 6 months following late 1976: First, he was remanded in young offenders institute following the incident at the 100 Club festival (friends talk of a change occurring in following this event) , secondly, he fell under the collective wings of Vivienne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren (again, poor adult figures) and, lastly, he then not only became famous on joining the Pistols, but notorious also. This collection would be massive for anyone; for an individual with a weak and unformulated ego it was devastating.
@WarthDader74
@WarthDader74 6 жыл бұрын
Sid would still be here if he hadn't met Nancy
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
Read the op comment and realise that John Beverly was doomed from the beginning and intelligent enough to make his own decisions. Him being with Nancy or any other messed up chick wouldn't have made a difference and he was too fucked up to be with someone better, he would have dragged that person down to his level.
@judasgoat4230
@judasgoat4230 5 жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown, thanks for your time on this one.
@wickedlilly05
@wickedlilly05 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. A very intellectual and interesting analytic regarding a video on KZbin for once. I agree with you very much, but mostly I just wanted to say thanks. 👍🏼
@filipematias5127
@filipematias5127 5 жыл бұрын
@L Salinas : Sid's birth name is John Simon Ritchie! The last name Beverley was his stepfather's and not his own whist Sid Vicious was a joking nickname that meant the exact opposite!
@Ursdemars
@Ursdemars 3 жыл бұрын
Great interview !!!
@crose7412
@crose7412 2 жыл бұрын
This interview was definitely not conducted in August 1977 as the death of Marc Bolan is mentioned which occurred on 16th September. This is the only occasion I've heard Sid talk using John Lydon's speech patterns (or vice versa) in certain places.
@pttheuk
@pttheuk 2 жыл бұрын
Missed it, what timestamp if that wouldn't be too much of a trouble?
@crose7412
@crose7412 2 жыл бұрын
@@pttheuk Dunno, listen to it again for yourself!
@pttheuk
@pttheuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@crose7412 can't be bothered, too lazy, on what occasion did Sid mention it?
@crose7412
@crose7412 2 жыл бұрын
@@pttheuk I'm too lazy to answer you.
@pttheuk
@pttheuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@crose7412 no-no, first of all, you're too much of a sod!
@glamdanzig
@glamdanzig Жыл бұрын
i love Sid sm
@namnefternamn5463
@namnefternamn5463 2 жыл бұрын
"I feel things I don´t think about them". So, he was a hippie by heart..
@jamesphillips4385
@jamesphillips4385 Жыл бұрын
At least Sid Vicious was brutally honest i can relate to exactly what he's saying...
@jeffstewart4648
@jeffstewart4648 6 жыл бұрын
God bless you Six!
@beefheart1410
@beefheart1410 8 жыл бұрын
By the way, I understand the attraction that kids have for Sid. He's an archetype: looks good and died young. Kids are hypnotised by this archetype and romanticise those figures that seem to inhabit the image. It's only the James Dean scenario being acted out again and again. By the same token, adults should realise that a character such as Sid should be pitied not idolised. Everything he was as a public figure happened to and was inflicted upon him; it wasn't something he initiated. The Kamikazie image was a mirage and a symptom of a pathology and early psychological / emotional abuse. He was the complete opposite of someone in control of his life. I suspect that people wouldn't idolise any other abused child who ends up dead at 21. Well, what's the difference here? Like I say, the attraction kids have to such a story is understandable, we all go through it in one way or another: I did. But, most of us, do get to grow up and get older. But, wiser?..... Maybe!
@stewartchampion4260
@stewartchampion4260 2 жыл бұрын
Why u hear then mate if you pity him
@xdef1ne
@xdef1ne 2 жыл бұрын
The kids idolise people like Sid Vicious because just like Sid said, Adults lose touch with what’s really happening as soon as they grow up. The kids understand how shit the world really is, so kids want to live to the extreme and die, get the most out of life as quickly as possible, experience what it’s got to offer and leave.
@randybackgammon890
@randybackgammon890 2 жыл бұрын
@@xdef1ne the kids wear flares and 10 years later the adults do.....but sureley those adults WERE the kids of 10 years earlier!
@richardhamilton1879
@richardhamilton1879 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, if anyone can point out anything that he said that was profound/ deep/ intelligent or wise then you must be easily impressed.
@hgreen8666
@hgreen8666 Жыл бұрын
Sid was definitely not the brightest spark - however before drugs, he was not stupid. His brain became addled from drug use. He was incredibly stupid for taking drugs though.
@andysandel9325
@andysandel9325 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Very Interesting It's Just Comes To Show How Sid Was So Underestimated...Sid Was So Absolutely So Intelligent Of This Reality Asylum So Far Ahead From This Stupidity Moral Boring Establishment Nanny Stature And Naturally Sid Was Fully Aware Of All Of This... Rest In Peace Sid The Legend Lives On 😎🔗❤🔒🖇
@romanasever
@romanasever 4 жыл бұрын
He was enough inelegant to know that he ended up soon..
@matthewlacey5307
@matthewlacey5307 10 жыл бұрын
really articulate
@AlexKing29353
@AlexKing29353 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Lacey very very articulate
@AlexKing29353
@AlexKing29353 5 жыл бұрын
For his age anyway his use of the english language was great
@krisscanlon4051
@krisscanlon4051 5 ай бұрын
Sid was rather honest and actually open and upfront. He was self aware and really sounded like a darker or more sarcastic Rotten.
@zippyde
@zippyde 3 жыл бұрын
all players in the big game,sid will always be remembered for his part he knew he had tp play.
@AlexKing29353
@AlexKing29353 5 жыл бұрын
A true anarchist
@waynesilverman3048
@waynesilverman3048 2 жыл бұрын
He sounds serious when he talks even though he liked having a laugh he sounds like 'I'm not taking any shit'kind of vibe.
@GriefTourist
@GriefTourist 8 жыл бұрын
so young so cynical and yet he had it all
@BobbyGeneric145
@BobbyGeneric145 8 жыл бұрын
He had nothing except for a heroin habit and fame for doing nothing., the 70s version of a Kardashian. He couldn't play for shit, couldn't sing, and was only put in the band because he looked good.
@mertustun5442
@mertustun5442 8 жыл бұрын
so punk means playing good to you?
@Mike420Mayhem
@Mike420Mayhem 6 жыл бұрын
.....what a disaster
@Bb-pw1zi
@Bb-pw1zi 5 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyGeneric145 What of significance have you ever done in your life? When you die you will be forgotten in a week.
@filipematias5127
@filipematias5127 5 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyGeneric145 : You obviously don't know anything about the real Sid except for the mythical lies that have been spread around for the last 40 years!
@ericgeorge5483
@ericgeorge5483 8 жыл бұрын
SID LIVED AND DIED ROCK N ROLL!!!
@chivonnehead8241
@chivonnehead8241 3 жыл бұрын
The awkward silences kill it.
@draxlerchronicles5851
@draxlerchronicles5851 4 жыл бұрын
"I didn't need to go on the dole because I could ponce more than £10 in a week." And there's comments saying he's really sharp. Fuckin hell.
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 3 жыл бұрын
£10 was a lot in the late 70s.
@garyrigby21
@garyrigby21 9 ай бұрын
he was only 20 here! so he was intelligent he just didn't care
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 2 жыл бұрын
This is the syd that lydon loved Not the syd who was a junkie and started believing his own hype John never should've let him join the band
@avalondreaming1433
@avalondreaming1433 4 жыл бұрын
He was talking about Huey Green, who was Paula Yates' biological father. I HATE THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT!!! Said Sid.
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 3 ай бұрын
Hughie
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 4 жыл бұрын
A working class Holden Caulfield.
@guynelson2341
@guynelson2341 3 жыл бұрын
I love this guy for his honesty. Such a refreshing change from the usual bunch of pretentious twats out there.
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU
@Hepausesshaving182GGMU 2 жыл бұрын
PERFECTLY SAID
@jamescokl3
@jamescokl3 Жыл бұрын
10 minutes in l couldn't agree more. I hate people, especially managers or manageress.
@Mranthrowfist13
@Mranthrowfist13 4 жыл бұрын
Sid Visceral
@stephanieramos7648
@stephanieramos7648 2 жыл бұрын
I swear I would have married him.... I have had dreams of him since I was 4.
@asong4thedead
@asong4thedead 5 жыл бұрын
Would've liked to hear from Nancy. She's surprisingly quiet here.
@hgreen8666
@hgreen8666 Жыл бұрын
Her nose ain’t.
@shaunwild8797
@shaunwild8797 4 жыл бұрын
The spades were really great in that college.😮
@thesecondYouTube
@thesecondYouTube 4 жыл бұрын
It's just a word, calm down.
@shaunwild8797
@shaunwild8797 4 жыл бұрын
@@thesecondKZbin I'm not shocked. I found it funny.
@nasdkhan254
@nasdkhan254 2 жыл бұрын
Yes chill out
@shaunwild8797
@shaunwild8797 2 жыл бұрын
@@nasdkhan254 If you read the comment above you would know I'm chilled out.
@nasdkhan254
@nasdkhan254 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaunwild8797 Sorry Shaun. Now we are all chilled out
@stephenspark9358
@stephenspark9358 5 жыл бұрын
not only is he brutally honest he is honestly DEAD ,Heroin CASualty ,I use to like him But I have come to my senses
@paulmk2290
@paulmk2290 2 жыл бұрын
He was quite well spoken, wasn't he.
@lethrbear32
@lethrbear32 2 жыл бұрын
Cain's in Tulsa is still going strong. I've seen many shows there. Cool to see the Sex Pistols on that stage!!
@kckstnd8
@kckstnd8 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know. Good for Cain’s
@stellarosehendrix
@stellarosehendrix 2 жыл бұрын
Omg 😂😂😂 that guy blows his nose in the background for like ten minutes 😂😂😂😂
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 2 жыл бұрын
that was nancy, who couldnt stand that she wasnt part of the interview
@stellarosehendrix
@stellarosehendrix 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewkovacs316 omg really?? 😆
@thewkovacs316
@thewkovacs316 2 жыл бұрын
@@stellarosehendrix listen to who sid is talking to in the background. that is nancy.
@SexPistolsArchives
@SexPistolsArchives 13 жыл бұрын
@TheNaomiengland Got a great (and funny) story about Sid's padlock but am sworn to secrecy...it'll be in Ted's new book which she's still working on ;)
@LonelyBones_
@LonelyBones_ 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the book called?
@ianwhitehead691
@ianwhitehead691 2 жыл бұрын
🔗R.I.P🔒SID⛓️
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