Why Pantera Broke Up

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@RockFeed
@RockFeed 3 жыл бұрын
Would you ever want to see a PANTERA tribute show with Phil and Rex?
@suicidesilence13
@suicidesilence13 3 жыл бұрын
Yes .And zakk on guitars.
@DBor269
@DBor269 3 жыл бұрын
100% YES!
@badq.concerts
@badq.concerts 3 жыл бұрын
Yup with Ola englund on guitar
@Krrrimmi
@Krrrimmi 3 жыл бұрын
Why not. What if Kerry King on guitars. 😂
@natewebb6298
@natewebb6298 3 жыл бұрын
Hellya brother
@rowanmelton7643
@rowanmelton7643 3 жыл бұрын
That story about Megadeth proves how much of an absolute legend Dimebag was. The thing he'd dreamt about his entire life was ripe for the taking, and he declined the offer because his brother couldn't come with him. That's loyalty
@bczarrockbeast6264
@bczarrockbeast6264 3 жыл бұрын
Ppl are all why do like dime so much...smh it's more than the music.
@monkeyballs512
@monkeyballs512 3 жыл бұрын
Is that what he dreamed about? The thing about Megadeth is that they are barely real band. They are Dave Mustaine, sometimes Dave Ellefson, and session guys. Dime would’ve been part of a big record, but he wouldn’t have been anyone’s focus, and he wouldn’t likely have been in the band for a long time. Pantera taking off was a way better situation for him even if they hadn’t managed to blow up as big as they did
@rowanmelton7643
@rowanmelton7643 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyballs512 Well Megadeths classic lineup is considered to be Mustaine, Elleffson, Marty Friedman and Nick Menza. And while Pantera blowing up was much better fortune for him, especially considering its rumoured Dave Mustaine is an absolute pain in the arse to work with, there was no guaranteeing it was gonna work out. Plus, if he joined Megadeth he could have made a name for himself and launched a career off there, like how Randy Rhoads went from Quiet Riot to Ozzy Osbourne
@monkeyballs512
@monkeyballs512 3 жыл бұрын
@@rowanmelton7643 I like Dime and Mustaine, but neither of them are Randy Rhoads. That man was superhuman
@rowanmelton7643
@rowanmelton7643 3 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyballs512 Yeah, I'm just pointing out how he went from a smaller band to mega stardom
@feral8163
@feral8163 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Dimebag Darrell and Vinnie Paul.
@CynHicks
@CynHicks 3 жыл бұрын
As a guitarists with a drummer brother that was in a band together for years their story always tears me up. I just avoid it. Heart breaking. Edit - I should clarify by saying that the bond that is built from creating music together is strong and when you couple that with actual blood...there's a love and connection that is hard to describe.
@darkhunter5594
@darkhunter5594 3 жыл бұрын
Dam idk Vinnie died too smh both are legends R.I.P sure they are ripping it up upstair with all the other legends
@CynHicks
@CynHicks 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkhunter5594 Yeah, people close to him say half of him died the day Dime did so really the other half died some years later.
@darkhunter5594
@darkhunter5594 3 жыл бұрын
@@CynHicks as someone who lost a younger brother I totally understand I hope they are tog again n ripping it up
@CynHicks
@CynHicks 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkhunter5594 I am the younger brother btw. Man, I'm sorry to hear that. I know it's hard and something that never leaves you. If you were tight anyway. I assume yall were. And I hope the same for yall one day.
@kornfreak78
@kornfreak78 3 жыл бұрын
Pantera will ALWAYS be one of the greatest metal bands of ALL time. RIP Abbott Brothers... thank you for your contribution to the music world... gone, but NEVER forgotten!
@ghostwriter1415
@ghostwriter1415 3 жыл бұрын
\m/
@storablepoem
@storablepoem 3 жыл бұрын
Cliff got me
@otiscleetus
@otiscleetus 3 жыл бұрын
Not one of...THE greatest
@albertorodriguezfernandez5956
@albertorodriguezfernandez5956 3 жыл бұрын
100%
@J1Duke
@J1Duke 2 жыл бұрын
THE greatest! ..def my fav! Lol
@NickyHC
@NickyHC 3 жыл бұрын
Pantera are a legendary band.
@joonapuurunen5602
@joonapuurunen5602 3 жыл бұрын
Every sixty seconds in Africa, a minute passes
@balintpetervari8450
@balintpetervari8450 3 жыл бұрын
@@joonapuurunen5602 no way🤯
@JJones-cl4dm
@JJones-cl4dm 3 жыл бұрын
God damn right brother
@val13c59
@val13c59 3 жыл бұрын
@@balintpetervari8450 I’m a 52yr old metal head. Pantera has always seemed like a generic cheesy metal band. I never took them seriously. But that’s just me.
@joeyvitale3241
@joeyvitale3241 3 жыл бұрын
@@val13c59 what albums have you listened to?
@dominikweber4305
@dominikweber4305 3 жыл бұрын
"Megadeth" *shows picture of dimebag with slayer members*
@Cognitoman
@Cognitoman 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@MetalAsPhuk
@MetalAsPhuk 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah. I guessss Kerry played with megadeth for a bit.. if we really try to stretch it
@crissygail927
@crissygail927 3 жыл бұрын
That confused the shit out of me lol.
@DrJ-hx7wv
@DrJ-hx7wv 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, then they switched to Megadeth in a second
@jamieowens5410
@jamieowens5410 9 ай бұрын
Slayerdeath🤘🏻
@mattharriss3835
@mattharriss3835 3 жыл бұрын
Pantera will always be that band we will always have to say... "What if??" I grew up in Dallas and had the privilege of watching these guys from their very early days. I was just teenage kid and being in the music scene myself I was able to call these guys my brothers. They were larger than life and I will always remember doing shot after shot backstage at the galaxy club about 2001-2002 with Dime, Vin and Billy MIlano (S.O.D.). When Dime was killed by a maniac it was over... Vinnie knew that and it eventually killed him as well. Those two were tight. Remember the Good Times! Getcha Pull!!!
@robert.m4676
@robert.m4676 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah!!!!!
@rsohlich1
@rsohlich1 3 жыл бұрын
You're so lucky to have thrown a few back with them. My best friend met Dime and said he was the friendliest, most gracious guy. He said Phil sort of growled at him.
@mattharriss3835
@mattharriss3835 3 жыл бұрын
@@rsohlich1 Yes... I feel that way as well. Dime and Vin were both extra awesome. Just like your best friend in the world and you just met them 5 seconds ago. I've been in the same room with Phil but never really talked to him. He was arrogant but he was the front man. I think he's changed a bit over the years but people always said Phil was Phil and that was it. A part of Dallas, TX died with those guys.
@ghostwriter1415
@ghostwriter1415 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattharriss3835 I saw them in Raleigh North Carolina back in 98 or so (OzzFest), and I consider that to be one of the highlights of my short time here on Earth! I'll never forget that day in the fall of 04 when a friend told me Dime died. I later learned that it was a Marine from Camp Legeune (right down the road) that shot him. My only question is why? I can honestly say, as a guitarist myself, that a part of me perished that day as well. L/R \m/
@kennyhoyt4609
@kennyhoyt4609 3 жыл бұрын
@Matt Harriss Yes sir the Galaxy Club, Orbit Room, Trees played them back in 96-99 punk band called Stickpin. Great times. Pantera was already huge and we loved them. They were like this constant energetic inspiration to keep going. Also ran into them at Cabaret Royal lol (another long story) Locals: Jibe, Doosu, Slow Roosevelt, Caulk, Stinkbug so many great Dallas memories my God....dude in the band then turned me on to Ugly Mustard and Course of Empire who I thought was awesome like NIN.....in a Jersey boy, but I love TX and always will. 🤘PANTERA🤘
@gameboysleepyd4277
@gameboysleepyd4277 3 жыл бұрын
No celebrity death ever hit me hard until we lost DIMEBAG. Always thought PANTERA was bulletproof. And no that wasn't a bad joke it was how their music made me feel R.I.P ABBOTT BROTHERS
@williamshepard81
@williamshepard81 3 жыл бұрын
Another bad one for me was of course Dio and Peter Steele.
@gameboysleepyd4277
@gameboysleepyd4277 3 жыл бұрын
@Colby Dipsen agreed bro. I remember it like yesterday
@bigfusionproglover3335
@bigfusionproglover3335 3 жыл бұрын
Rock Deaths that Shook Me: Ronnie James Dio Eric Carr Neil Peart Eddie Van Halen John Bonham John Lennon Diamond Darrell Vinnie Paul
@bjoern_thun_dersteel
@bjoern_thun_dersteel 3 жыл бұрын
Dimebags Death was the Death that hitted me the 2nd most. The Death that hitted me the most was Chuck Schuldiners Death. They were so talented musicians and down to earth guys.
@gameboysleepyd4277
@gameboysleepyd4277 3 жыл бұрын
@@bjoern_thun_dersteel yeah that was a sad day too
@bobbyincidemetal
@bobbyincidemetal 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Pantera in the late 90’s in Anchorage, AK during the RtS tour. It was the most wild concert I’ve ever been to.
@Kk-wv7yw
@Kk-wv7yw 3 жыл бұрын
Go ak. Which venue. Sullivan ?
@arizonachronicsmoker
@arizonachronicsmoker 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah man Pantera goes hard as fuck! I saw them way back in 2022 during their reunion tour in my early 20s and I could say for them being some middle aged white guys as was majority of the crowd they rocked out and kept that energy from their prime. Which was extra special given the timing of the show with the previous couple years concerts taken indefinitely from us unsure if they'd ever come back, as Im sure you'll never forget those trying times being old enough to remember those times as well, so it was hands down one of the most wild concerts of my life! 🤘🏻
@melissaivy5199
@melissaivy5199 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly I never had the pleasure of seeing them and enjoying the show!!!! You gotta cool memory dude🤘🤘
@horrorfanrikki8038
@horrorfanrikki8038 3 жыл бұрын
FuckYeah!!..I saw them too in my hometown Anchorage in the 90's!! 🤘😝🤘
@Mistilou
@Mistilou 3 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine it was! Because I saw Sepultura, Alice in Chains and Ozzy for my VERY FIRST concert EVER!! And THAT was absolutely incredibly amazing and completely unforgettable!!! I EVEN managed to get Ozzy's attention as well as the whole arenas!! By accident TOO!!!😂😄💀
@VanHalenDrummer
@VanHalenDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
I miss my Texas boys. It’s unfortunate that I was born in ‘94. These guys were in their prime at that time.
@mrchoptop5482
@mrchoptop5482 3 жыл бұрын
Same bruh ‘94
@Taydrumz
@Taydrumz 3 жыл бұрын
‘95 for me; growing up in ETX it was like collecting Pokémon’s meeting guys that worked with them before their big break and or people that were still friends with them. Almost got to hang out with Vinnie Paul for my 16th birthday, bassist of my band at the time was friends with him and the owner of Murphy’s Music Store. RIP Abbott Bros 💪🏽.
@balintpetervari8450
@balintpetervari8450 3 жыл бұрын
2006...
@jeffh123
@jeffh123 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry bro. SA, TX boy here. I started following and seeing them live since 92 before people really knew who they were. I was 13 at the time. I've seen them around 15 times and also had to privilege to hang and party with the boys. Some of the greatest shows of my life. You can watch some full shows here on KZbin. It'll give you a sense, but never duplicate the power of those shows live.
@VanHalenDrummer
@VanHalenDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffh123 hell yeah bro! I’ve been looking for some vids of them in SA or Corpus. No luck. I’m glad you have such killer memories.🤘🏽
@pascalcooper4518
@pascalcooper4518 3 жыл бұрын
Moscow was 1.6 million. I think it's ranked as the 4th largest gathering for music that has ever happened on earth.
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 3 жыл бұрын
That attendance number keeps going up?
@rowanmelton7643
@rowanmelton7643 3 жыл бұрын
@@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 My sources quote 20 million audience members
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 3 жыл бұрын
@@rowanmelton7643 are you sure, it broke 35 million didnt it?
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 3 жыл бұрын
@Leejen Denetsosie Gomez some say they are still leaving the concert!!!!
@jeffreycummings2769
@jeffreycummings2769 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard a wide range of numbers topping out at about 1.5 million. However, I believe Pantera were the opening act of a long festival and weren't that well known yet. So, during the Pantera set, I could see it being half a million but exploding to over 1 million by the end with AC/DC and Metallica.
@bhcamaro2002
@bhcamaro2002 3 жыл бұрын
There will never be another guitarist with the feel and heart quite like Dime. Vinnie could drum like no other as well. Gone but never forgotten.
@Justice_Hammer
@Justice_Hammer 3 жыл бұрын
He was a freakishly good guitarist. He’s on Metals’ Mount Rushmore 100%
@robert.m4676
@robert.m4676 3 жыл бұрын
I remember getting CFH! Man they just killed it. Every album they put out was full of bad ass music . I miss Pantera like NO other band!
@PJBonoVox
@PJBonoVox 3 жыл бұрын
@@Justice_Hammer Mount Crushmore
@HeathenDance
@HeathenDance 3 жыл бұрын
Specially given the fact that Dimebag was the only guitar player in the band.
@HeathenDance
@HeathenDance 3 жыл бұрын
@Skip R Eddie Van Halen wasn't exactly "everyone"... Just to name an example. I do believe professional and legendary musicians' opinions are worth a little bit more than the average joe who can't play a C scale to save his life...
@bochafish
@bochafish 3 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to see Pantera in their prime 9 times. Great shows, one of my favorite bands in high school.
@thomaswhite518
@thomaswhite518 3 жыл бұрын
10 for me!
@apc3036
@apc3036 3 жыл бұрын
Same. 10or11x's.
@aplus1080
@aplus1080 2 жыл бұрын
Which albums?
@bochafish
@bochafish 2 жыл бұрын
@@aplus1080 I started with Vulgar Display of Power, but they were already playing cowboys from hell stuff. The far beyond driven, great southern trend kill. Then I saw them at the first Oz fest, which they put on the live album. Early 90's were a great time to be in high school!
@Caffeine_Club
@Caffeine_Club 2 жыл бұрын
Man I saw them once and felt lucky... 9 is crazy!
@coreymcmanus4749
@coreymcmanus4749 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the day that Dime was killed,I got drunk and listened to pantera all day. I have to admit that there was some crying too. Dime was and still is my idol,love that dude.
@ronaldp4
@ronaldp4 3 жыл бұрын
I had just come back to DFW from a trip where I had gone to the AlRosa the week before; it took me several days to process the 6 o'clock news that Wednesday!
@alterego6075
@alterego6075 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. I shed my share of tears when Dime was taken from us. Same with Vinnie. Their music is so powerful and can never be imitated. I still feel the loss to this day.
@coreymcmanus4749
@coreymcmanus4749 3 жыл бұрын
@@conanbardwell6760 hell yeah brother!
@devildriven4413
@devildriven4413 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s gay
@curtmccabe8890
@curtmccabe8890 3 жыл бұрын
My first metal concert pantera and white zombie ‘92 in St Louis still my favorite to this day. I feel blessed to have seen it.
@RockFeed
@RockFeed 3 жыл бұрын
What a lineup! You were definitely lucky!
@kejola1969
@kejola1969 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the same show in Nashville. What a great concert!
@darbz1017
@darbz1017 3 жыл бұрын
My first was pantera and corrosion of conformity in 01. Still the best show I've seen. They were truly one of a kind.
@Wargasm644
@Wargasm644 3 жыл бұрын
@@kejola1969 ha ha! I was at the Nashville show! 328 performance hall? Saw them later at Starwood for far beyond driven! Had backstage passes for that gig. Epic times 🤘🏻
@rogerhage7392
@rogerhage7392 3 жыл бұрын
Nice wish I had seen pantera great energy
@BassSlapper89
@BassSlapper89 3 жыл бұрын
Rest in paradise, Abbott brothers. Cheers from Texas.
@hornmoviereviews8739
@hornmoviereviews8739 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely feel for phil when it comes to chronic pain. I can definitely relate. When you are in constant pain it changes you. But he should called everything off and got himself fixed up.
@sarcasticallyrearranged
@sarcasticallyrearranged 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why he would put the surgery off and go to using heroin?
@thehound9988
@thehound9988 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarcasticallyrearranged so he could give a great performance live
@nutterinherbutter5080
@nutterinherbutter5080 2 жыл бұрын
@@thehound9988 that sounds counterintuitive in the long run and would, also in the long run, only tarnish the band even more
@thehound9988
@thehound9988 2 жыл бұрын
@@nutterinherbutter5080 it was, Phil didn't want to take a year or two to relax and get the surgery, because far beyond just reached number one on the charts. He had to live up to what the world saw him as, a "superman"
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarcasticallyrearranged because there’s a high probability of you not bouncing back from surgery and needing other surgeries. It’s a long and painful recovery. It was 1995-2000 and medicine what it is today and today they put off back surgery. He has DDD.
@AfroMomVanlifing
@AfroMomVanlifing 3 жыл бұрын
Pantera's story is heartbreaking. Tragic for one of the best southern thrash bands of all time.
@Staminist-MMF-80
@Staminist-MMF-80 3 жыл бұрын
I am literally privileged, because I got to see Pantera in 1998. I'm from Europe, so it's not like we could travel several hundred miles just to go see them on any gig in the States. I am thankful for Your music guys, respect!! RIP Abbott bros!
@GunDrummer
@GunDrummer 3 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah I’m gonna need 5 Minutes Alone to go watch this video real quick before I Walk on home!
@shanedude91
@shanedude91 3 жыл бұрын
But it's a 15 minute video
@sauceup713ayye7
@sauceup713ayye7 3 жыл бұрын
WALK ON HOME BOYYY!😂🤘🤘
@sinner13halloweenfiend76
@sinner13halloweenfiend76 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah nice 😈😈😈😈🤘🤘🤘🤘
@edwardrichard2561
@edwardrichard2561 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@RichardGarcia93
@RichardGarcia93 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanedude91 r/woooosh
@stephendouglas4343
@stephendouglas4343 2 жыл бұрын
Pantera was stuck in Ireland after September 11, 2001. They were frightened. That didn't help either. I saw them live in June 2001. I am blessed for that.
@rogerironhide4220
@rogerironhide4220 3 жыл бұрын
I have nothing bad to say about these legends. Tragic how it all went down & then the absolute tragic death of Dimebag..... Now Vinnie is gone. R.I.P. Gone but NEVER forgotten. The BEST Metal band of all time
@SentimentalApe
@SentimentalApe 2 жыл бұрын
Chronic pain and addiction are such a tragedy for so many people. It’s a shame that these people: Phil, Dime, and Vinnie couldn’t share in the recovery Phil was able to make. Their deaths are part of how to understand literary tragedy. Phil attempted to endure the unendurable and learned that receiving help is the remedy and freedom he needed. In the time it took him to accept help, he lost his mind on drugs which caused him to act upon extremely hurtful ideations. His hardcore attitude and addiction were killing him, and no one wanted him to feel so forced that he would destroy himself. So, he wound up inflicting that pain and misguided bad feelings upon them to escape the band. That is a regret borne from poor executive function in the brain. Then, he finally got help through surgery, and then he finally started figuring things out and learning how to live without drugs because it was finally possible-prior, the pain fueled the addiction’s imposition on him. So, he got to have that process of healing and growth, but the two with the biggest social influence that he hurt in that process wound up dying very early deaths. The most beloved and charismatic member of the band wound up shot to death because Phil left the band and talked shit during the long stretch it took him to accept help. A few years later, Vinnie died less horrifyingly ironically than his brother; it was sudden heart failure. I am really happy that most people seem to recognize that this story is a true tragedy rather than anything else.
@arfonjones7565
@arfonjones7565 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear someone explaining things properly at last,it's one of those stories that would go on forever otherwise. Thanks from a fan, so sorry it was a short career dime and vinnie had but at least the music lives on. Aj
@jeeplife2035
@jeeplife2035 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t care what anyone says I love Phil cause after six lower back surgeries and substance abuse myself I’ve gone thru the same painful Hell he went thru. I lost everything due to trying to numb horrific pain. And it changes you for the worst until you start recovering from it all. Phil will always be apart of my life thru his music and his struggles and I have zero hate for him but massive respect.
@christamitchell5652
@christamitchell5652 Жыл бұрын
Unfailng respect forever!
@MohawkBob
@MohawkBob 3 ай бұрын
I have lung and brain cancer! Both are inoperable, ok? I know exactly wtf pain is. I cannot forgive Phil for starting a series of events that robbed this world of one of its greatest guitarists in HISTORY. Phuck Phil.
@kendallodell9754
@kendallodell9754 3 жыл бұрын
PanfuckenterA my favorite band RIP Dime and Vinnie rest in power pantera
@MegadetH666ksa
@MegadetH666ksa 3 жыл бұрын
"PanfuckenterA" ya that's cringe don't type that shit again please.
@christamitchell5652
@christamitchell5652 Жыл бұрын
Panfuckingtera is exactly right! Well said!!2💯💯
@bigfusionproglover3335
@bigfusionproglover3335 3 жыл бұрын
In 1984, I saw Pantera warm-up for Germany's Accept in a Killeen/Ft. Hood,TX bar, not knowing who they were. Pantera was phenomenal that night & bought their LP at merch booth that night!! I have close-up stage pics of that show, to this day. I'll never forget it!!
@metalben005
@metalben005 Жыл бұрын
Its a sad story man. The mighty Pantera fizzled to nothing all because they couldn't communicate with each other. I honestly feel bad for Phil he really was in such a deep pit. Isolation is a major sign of depression or struggle. Dime and Vince tried but ultimately had no choice but to move on. Poor Rex was caught in the middle of it all.
@ms.ellenlevy5667
@ms.ellenlevy5667 3 жыл бұрын
I miss Pantera . I saw them quite a few times in the 90s. Iam glad I had the privilege to see them live so many times. There albums are great but the live shows were so intense it was crazy. Shows like that do not really exist anymore. I thank the metal gods I was born during that era. It was a blast. RIp dime and vinnie much love.
@brianmeen2158
@brianmeen2158 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the metal scene these days is lame compared to the 80s and 90s. I’m Glad I got to experience it
@owltheherald4199
@owltheherald4199 3 жыл бұрын
This was a heavy video. The ending really hits hard. I believe what Phil was saying about his being a wounded animal lashing out. The whole way those relationships ended is pure tragedy.
@kellicouch5883
@kellicouch5883 3 жыл бұрын
Owl The Herald... I agree with you completely. I think Phil will forever regret what went down between them. I only hope for his sake, that he forgives himself. Living with profound regret like that will eat you alive. It really is a tragedy.
@ChrisARC
@ChrisARC 3 жыл бұрын
@@kellicouch5883 Unimaginable tragedy. I'm a hardcore fan, more of a disciple. It's hard to face the fact that they could've released many more incredible albums...
@gizzy2403
@gizzy2403 3 жыл бұрын
1 of th things I've learned in life is when you are that close, like brothers, when that inevitable fight happens it's usually epic & brutal, which this obviously was. Its alot to live w/ especially that whole, not being allowed @ Dimes funeral. Sad RIP Abbott brothers
@LEDZEP769
@LEDZEP769 3 жыл бұрын
It's too bad neither one had kids to have maybe passed that legendary talent on too for a new metal generation. ✝️ 🎸🥁
@kristinawillis1816
@kristinawillis1816 3 жыл бұрын
@@LEDZEP769 I say that often.... ....sadly,no lil Abbotts.....
@Floppy_Bacon
@Floppy_Bacon 3 жыл бұрын
Phil genuinely loved his band mates. He genuinely loved Pantera. Unfortunately he had drug addiction and severe pain get in the way of what was essentially reality. He was in a constant hazy fog. If the severe pain and addiction wasn't a factor, Pantera would be alive and screaming today.
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot say that
@Floppy_Bacon
@Floppy_Bacon 3 жыл бұрын
@@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 I just did
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 3 жыл бұрын
@@Floppy_Bacon ok, pantera would not exist today as phils ego grew before his heroin addiction. Back trouble was just an excuse to be just another drug abusing maggot. He was just a miniscule part of the 90s heroin revolution
@HeathenDance
@HeathenDance 3 жыл бұрын
@@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 To be honest, I think Phil's problem was lack of self-esteem. The "ego" mask and the drugs are shields against that. But that's just my personal opinion.
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeathenDance they did get a number 1 record prior to his using, plus plenty of people telling them how great they are would be tiring to keep that image up, especially in the 90s
@nailsin4416
@nailsin4416 3 жыл бұрын
To this day, I'm still in shock about Dimebag and still can't believe Vinnie is gone.
@Justice_Hammer
@Justice_Hammer 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. It’s like a bad movie became reality
@iampob
@iampob 3 жыл бұрын
Many people have a disproportionate response to celebrity deaths, you’ll be O.K.
@nailsin4416
@nailsin4416 3 жыл бұрын
@@iampob 2 days later, the feels police arrived.
@robert.m4676
@robert.m4676 3 жыл бұрын
No doubt! Dime was the greatest person and guitarist ever!!!!!
@HeavyRaiden
@HeavyRaiden 3 жыл бұрын
:(
@popebryanii7224
@popebryanii7224 3 жыл бұрын
I met dime in 98, coolest guy I could've ever met. Just a genuine guy. I got a pick from him.
@opivyattack
@opivyattack 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! I hope you still have it. It's just crazy how the greatest things in the world usually crash the hardest.
@dionr1168
@dionr1168 3 жыл бұрын
Pantera's demise was all Phil. He was quoted as saying "rebuild Pantera, I don't care! I'm committing 100% to Superjoint Ritual!" on a magazine cover. He even ghosted Vinnie and Dime.
@Krrrimmi
@Krrrimmi 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. That's why he was kicked out.
@integrity101
@integrity101 3 жыл бұрын
False. I own that magazine.
@thepluggy1
@thepluggy1 3 жыл бұрын
@@integrity101 no you dont!
@integrity101
@integrity101 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepluggy1 😂
@ringadingding32
@ringadingding32 3 жыл бұрын
@@integrity101 darcy more like parsley lole
@jinjunmei
@jinjunmei 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I didn't get into metal until many years after they already ceased all activity. They're one band I would've loved to see.
@chili_phil
@chili_phil 3 жыл бұрын
I feel fortunate to have lived through the best PanterA years.
@kristinawillis1816
@kristinawillis1816 3 жыл бұрын
Same Here Brother!!!🤘👅🤘 ....FKKKN PANTERA BRO!!!....
@kristinawillis1816
@kristinawillis1816 3 жыл бұрын
AND THE TRUTH BEHIND IT ALL MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE!!!👑
@SolidFreeLoader
@SolidFreeLoader 3 жыл бұрын
One of the GOAT Metal band of our generation...
@jonrhythm3686
@jonrhythm3686 3 жыл бұрын
I was damn lucky to see Pantera twice. No way in Hell I'd ever go see a Pantera tribute band. That would be sacrilege.
@TheXTREMEQMAN
@TheXTREMEQMAN 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for one of these deep dive documentary videos. These videos are why I subscribed and fell in love with this channel aside from the regular news on the rock community.
@AlJohnsGuitar
@AlJohnsGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
They were tired of each others Sh*t. If they were ALL ALIVE they would get back together. I just know.
@deft1abc1
@deft1abc1 3 жыл бұрын
Very doubtful. Vinnie didn't like Phil anymore.
@larsulrich7569
@larsulrich7569 3 жыл бұрын
@@deft1abc1 'If they were ALL ALIVE'
@deft1abc1
@deft1abc1 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah who knows.
@AlJohnsGuitar
@AlJohnsGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
I know because when you're in a band with someone for YEARS you love them. They are like family. Families fight. Even if they can't stand each other they still love each other. Time heals all wounds.
@deft1abc1
@deft1abc1 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlJohnsGuitar didn't heal vinnies hate for Phil.
@calymlibelle5010
@calymlibelle5010 3 жыл бұрын
Music for me has never been the same since Dimes passing... Vince just sealed the finale so to speak... R.I.P. ABBOTT BROTHERS....
@imperfectbeliever8127
@imperfectbeliever8127 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know what you mean. There's still music but the vibe is off. That raw energy and excitement is just not the same. Its weird
@calymlibelle5010
@calymlibelle5010 3 жыл бұрын
@@imperfectbeliever8127 Exactly... There have been some decent bands since then but it's like the energy just died right along with Dime... That guy was that influential.... Have a great day my friend... 😊...
@calymlibelle5010
@calymlibelle5010 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin just literally sent this notification today... Smh... Hope things are good on your end my friend considering the present state of affairs involving the "Woke" citizens of this planet... Lol... Enjoy the rest of your evening...😊
@papawx3
@papawx3 3 жыл бұрын
Pantera. I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. They remind me of that old Bad Company song: "Shooting Star". And thats exactly what they were; burning bright at 25k mph, then burning out just as fast. RIP Dime and Vinnie.
@thinkforyourself5672
@thinkforyourself5672 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that a reunion is occurring is wild. We have to take what we can get at this point
@sullentaylor188
@sullentaylor188 3 жыл бұрын
Phil blaming his back for not being able to make music with Dime and Vinny is BS when all he did was make music in other bands during that time. My buddy bought a shirt and asked Phil if he could sign it. Phil just took the shirt and never gave it back. I love Pantera but we all know why things went the way they did.
@integrity101
@integrity101 3 жыл бұрын
Dude its 2021. Its been two decades. The band went on a PLANNED BREAK specifically for all the guys to release side projects they were sitting on. This is a well documented indisputable FACT.
@Norman-Bates
@Norman-Bates 3 жыл бұрын
Hearsay dude, you are pissing in the wind at this point
@integrity101
@integrity101 3 жыл бұрын
@Scottio Mattio Are u stupid? The guy had major back surgery. What u think all four guys in Pantera made up a back injury story and continued that narrative for about 8 years before their break up than once they were slinging insults in the press the abbotts decided to keep that secret for a few more years? How exactly does every member of Pantera plus wives, friends, etc benefit from this lie?
@monkeyballs512
@monkeyballs512 3 жыл бұрын
@@integrity101 it’s not that it’s a lie. It just doesn’t justify or explain what Anselmo became. Hurting your back doesn’t make you a racist moron
@NPK476
@NPK476 3 жыл бұрын
People forget how Phil was such a scumbag was. First time I seen them he was flicking his lit cigarettes into the crowd and tried to get the crowd to beat up a kid wearing a Green Day T-shirt.
@bm625
@bm625 3 жыл бұрын
I lost track of how many times I saw Pantera live in the 90's and once in 2000. I believe it was a total of about 8 or 9 times. They were definitely a force to be reckoned with. They dominated metal in the 90's. I really wish they could've stayed together. Who knows what other albums we'd have .
@kwmulligan
@kwmulligan 3 жыл бұрын
Went to my first concert, Pantera back in 1991. I still listen to their music to this day...Only the good die young
@DoubtingThomas333
@DoubtingThomas333 3 жыл бұрын
For VP he didn't care to see a doctor for any reason whatsoever. He knew what he was doing.
@SuperStrik9
@SuperStrik9 3 жыл бұрын
Saw Pantera in 99 open for Black Sabbath on Sabbath's Reunion tour. One of the best shows I've seen and Pantera were incredible. I'll never forget my memories of Dime shredding it up infront of 30 thousand plus people. It's still hard to believe Dime and Vinnie are both gone. Dime's death is one of the greatest tragedies in music history. What happened was totally insane in the worst way possible.
@travismiles5885
@travismiles5885 3 жыл бұрын
I feel lucky to have seen Pantera a handful of times in the 90s. I caught a guitar pick from Dime at a show in Germany when I was stationed there. I have it in a little frame in my jam room.
@crazyjoedavola5430
@crazyjoedavola5430 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I got to see them at their height in '93....one of the best experiences of my life
@eye-Am-Me
@eye-Am-Me 3 жыл бұрын
I was only able to see Damage Plan live one month before he got shot. They played 3 Pantera songs at the end of their list and I've never seen a crowd go as crazy as that time.
@SheaRecordmetal
@SheaRecordmetal 2 жыл бұрын
I’m with you. I never got the priveledge of seeing Pantera.I saw damageplan in 2004 earthday birthday in orlando. They also ended the set with Walk and it was the one and only time i ever got to see Dime and Vinnie on stage. I still remember just watching. I was usually in the pit but as a guitar player i had to just watch Dime do his thing.
@thejoker3994
@thejoker3994 3 жыл бұрын
Hella proud! You got the facts right from the beginning to the end! (Watched it all from Joe's garage to world tour ) great job on getting it right!!!!
@That-Guy.
@That-Guy. 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could’ve had the chance to see them live. R.I.P Abbott brothers♥️
@ValeryBoikov
@ValeryBoikov 3 жыл бұрын
This is just sad. And a reminder that you never know when is the last time you have ever talked to someone. Then you sit and think - if only...
@Krrrimmi
@Krrrimmi 3 жыл бұрын
I 1st watched PANTERA in MTV Headbangers Ball '92. With their MV "Walk", "Mouth of War", & "Cemetery Gates". Then by 1994. PANTERA became a word-of-mouth in our highschool campus. PANTERA became very popular on our local METAL community in d '90s up to now. \m/💀\m/
@The_Knight_Mayor
@The_Knight_Mayor 3 жыл бұрын
White Zombie and Pantera was the metal tour of the 90s everyone wanted. Miss them days.
@lucasgonzalez6201
@lucasgonzalez6201 3 жыл бұрын
First concert ever went to and was lucky enough to get Dimebag and Vinnie Paul autograph on my ticket stub
@scotty7647
@scotty7647 3 жыл бұрын
I seen them play three times in Houston, Texas from 1992- 96. One was a pretty small show on Houston's Northside. The best concerts I've ever been to was Pantera.
@justinlund460
@justinlund460 3 жыл бұрын
After Dime was shoot that was it for Pantera Dime and Vinny Paul was the life and heart of Pantera
@danielbhowe
@danielbhowe 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite band, PERIOD! Absolutely killer video man! Well put together!
@boyetespiritu2384
@boyetespiritu2384 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man! Anselmo’s statement saying he regret what he have said that hurt Dime and Vince, definitely had an immediate shot in my gut and heart split seconds i hearing it... can’t help to hold my tears. I feel Phil’s heart saying that... i miss them rock it out together. ❤️🎸🥁
@Rob_Cary
@Rob_Cary 3 жыл бұрын
I can understand Phil's back problems. That whipping around he did on stage would have me paralyzed the next day lol
@cleansweep3605
@cleansweep3605 3 жыл бұрын
You sound metal af
@Rob_Cary
@Rob_Cary 3 жыл бұрын
@@cleansweep3605 Thanks?
@guitarware
@guitarware 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the real issues started actually from one particular show where he jumped off a really high light scaffolding, hurting his back.
@danielelia2256
@danielelia2256 Жыл бұрын
We wouldnt have Pantera if Dime and Vinnie joined Megadeth but damn that would have been so badass Dave with the Abbott's brothers.
@Comment957
@Comment957 3 жыл бұрын
How cool would it have been to be there to see the birth of the riffs that became CFH? Even now, it boggles my mind to think that between Power Metal and CFH, Pantera gave birth to a completely new metal sound.
@troublemagnet1
@troublemagnet1 3 жыл бұрын
They ripped off EXHORDER.
@jasondoolin6476
@jasondoolin6476 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna know how many people just learned about “old” Pantera
@gorillaump5869
@gorillaump5869 3 жыл бұрын
You mean Gemeni..
@jasondoolin6476
@jasondoolin6476 3 жыл бұрын
@@gorillaump5869 how’d you know I’m a Gemini 🤣
@nelliesilvers1210
@nelliesilvers1210 3 жыл бұрын
Unscarred By Trials🤘🏻💜. I've got everything Pantera ever did including the pre-Anselmo Metal Magic. Drag the Waters, Walk, A New Level, Suicide Note Pt 1, This Love and all my other favourite songs of theirs still get cranked in my car today. They're all through my KZbin playlists as well so there's no escaping them when driving with me🤘🏻😈
@jameswestphal7578
@jameswestphal7578 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Pantera the first time ever when they were touring w/Coal chamber & Anthrax. Man that concert was Goddamn Electric.
@denverrandy7143
@denverrandy7143 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful I got to see them in 01 at Ozzfest in St.Louis Mo. Man,biggest pit I've ever seen in my life,just a big tornado like dust bowl!!!🤘👍🤘👍🤘👍
@bradharms4711
@bradharms4711 3 жыл бұрын
I was at that show too. It was fukn amazing! And I was in that pit
@denverrandy7143
@denverrandy7143 3 жыл бұрын
@@bradharms4711 Nice Brotha🤘yeah,that Grassy field at the main stage was a perfect mosh setting. I was 17 at the time,honestly was smoking a blunt with my friends. Turned around and saw the pit starting and just handed my friend the blunt and just started running towards the pit.I went 3 years in a row,99 to 01...everyone from slipknot,kittie,taproot,drain sth,fear factory. Hell man,you were there you know🤘👍Have a good one man.
@boadosheavy6137
@boadosheavy6137 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and history man! Great work!!
@NickyHC
@NickyHC 3 жыл бұрын
Rip Paul brothers!
@JohnChilds-b5z
@JohnChilds-b5z 8 күн бұрын
Been a Pantera fan for years and always greatful to say seen them more than once phil is why they are nomore but don't get me wrong Down and Super joint ritual are some dope ass bands miss you Dime and Vince rest in peace keep rocking in the heaven 🤘
@CidicVicious
@CidicVicious 3 жыл бұрын
I'll always love Pantera and Phil! One of the 1st bands to welcome me into the metal community 🤘🏿
@imperfectbeliever8127
@imperfectbeliever8127 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. They took the time to acknowledge me several times in a sea of fans. Most of the time I was the only dark face there at an in store appearance or at a show. I was impressed that in the fog of fame touring and partying they actually remembered me. Pretty impressive. They were the best at what they did.
@CidicVicious
@CidicVicious 3 жыл бұрын
@@imperfectbeliever8127 💯. That's super rad you got to meet them.
@gerrett108
@gerrett108 2 ай бұрын
I feel blessed to have grown up in Dallas Texas area! From Pantera, to Van Halen free concert, to Stevie Ray Vaughn, Jeff Beck, Joe Satriani in deep Ellum.... Dallas kicks ass for great music
@longbeach7623
@longbeach7623 3 жыл бұрын
5:42. Timeline is questionable. Grunge was a virtual unknown when CFH was released in mid 1990. If Pantera were to have followed that trend, it would have been with VDOP.
@Pre-Expatriate
@Pre-Expatriate 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Those songs were written at the latest in 1989 and grunge had not hit until a few years later. Edit: Meant the latest not earliest.
@PAMSAAM
@PAMSAAM 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber! good stuff, thanks for sharing!!
@Chesterd2
@Chesterd2 3 жыл бұрын
I remember Pantera playing at Alpine Valley in Wisconsin sometime in the late 90s, I think it was the late 90s? But it was at Ozzfest. I’ve probably been to about 50 concerts, I can’t say it was the best show, but it was definitely A one of a kind show. And feel lucky that I was able to see them. Definitely the loudest concert I have ever attended.
@johnytwotimes4072
@johnytwotimes4072 3 жыл бұрын
This is my first time seeing the Metal Magic cover and I'm dying 😂 A werewolf with a sword wearing a belt without pants 😂
@Derysss
@Derysss 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Brian!
@Jokilldrum
@Jokilldrum 3 жыл бұрын
These videos only focus on the bad. There is a million more good things about this band and it’s members. God bless pantera for creating the soundtrack of my youth. RIP abbot brothers. Thank you Rex and Phillip for the continuation of killer music
@captainmorgan2702
@captainmorgan2702 3 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to see Pantera front row at the Aragon Ballroom in 97!!!! One of the best shows ever. A reunion with Phil And Rex would be cool, but No one can ever replace Dimebag and Vinnie!!! R.I.P. Keep Their Memories Alive My Fellow MetalHeads!!! 🤘
@Webofterror3
@Webofterror3 2 жыл бұрын
Where the vid to walk was filmed.when also
@7star7storm7
@7star7storm7 3 жыл бұрын
OMFG 🤣 Talk about old photos coming back to haunt you .. I never knew that's what they looked like in the beginning .. I was in highschool when Cowboys from Hell changed my metal world 🔥🤘
@gabrielpedro4982
@gabrielpedro4982 3 жыл бұрын
Don't let this fool you, power metal era has some great songs. Death trap and Power metal are awsome :D
@7star7storm7
@7star7storm7 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielpedro4982 it didn't "fool" me brother ..Like I said Cowboys changed my metal world .. Far Beyond Driven was the first tab book I ever got .. Ive loved Pantera for 25 years .. few dodgy photos won't change that ..It was only a few years before that I was listening to Motley Crue , Poison, Skid Row etc
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 3 жыл бұрын
Glamtera
@joshlemke735
@joshlemke735 3 жыл бұрын
I had the privilege of seeing Pantera a bunch of times. Once they made my ears ring for days. Epic show.
@gatorgator3833
@gatorgator3833 3 жыл бұрын
That’s just crappy audio engineering lol
@joshlemke735
@joshlemke735 3 жыл бұрын
@@gatorgator3833 LOL ya it was the 90s but I will never forget that night
@islandofmisfityoutubers6734
@islandofmisfityoutubers6734 3 жыл бұрын
But what does Corey Taylor think about this
@ishaanbhattacharya9405
@ishaanbhattacharya9405 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@ishaanbhattacharya9405
@ishaanbhattacharya9405 3 жыл бұрын
But it's rock feed😟
@aPredatorsPortrait
@aPredatorsPortrait 3 жыл бұрын
Rockfeed moment
@TyreeDuncan
@TyreeDuncan 3 ай бұрын
We better get his opinion on this one!
@ScotsGal
@ScotsGal Жыл бұрын
There will never be another band like pantera..ever...I saw them live in 1992 in support of megadeth here in Glasgow scotland ..Best concert ever....with megadeth at their peak and pantera just about to explode ..awesome ...it just saddens me that there can never be a full reunion of the band
@keepontruckinoutlawlife1248
@keepontruckinoutlawlife1248 3 жыл бұрын
WE STILL LOVE YOU PHILIP. RIP ABBOTT BROTHERS..
@abohov1710
@abohov1710 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! :) Gotta love Pantera! \m/
@dowkh
@dowkh 3 жыл бұрын
Phil's voice is gone, It's over let's just remember them.
@justinhayes2194
@justinhayes2194 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, I watched the 25th anniversary of Down Nola live stream that down did, and Phil's voice sounded pretty damn good, like he had been practicing and shit. He was hitting all the right notes.
@jerrybergsteinbaum8008
@jerrybergsteinbaum8008 3 жыл бұрын
Hes just gotta do different things now, but he still has a unique and worthy voice.
@dzarmindra
@dzarmindra 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Dime & Vinnie No matter what happened... Dime+Vinnie+Rex+Phil will always stick in my head as Pantera, my heroes.
@KingMasadaX
@KingMasadaX 3 жыл бұрын
What to take away? Phil thinks he's in REO Speedwagon, and Pantera was so burnt out, they burned up, but if Axl & Slash can reunite, any group can, as long as everyone is alive, unfortunately Pantera is no longer able.
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980
@timeswehadwewonthaveagain6980 3 жыл бұрын
You cannot compare gnr to pantera, gnr are all about $$$$, pantera never were
@fredfreddy1502
@fredfreddy1502 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best and well said video about their personal issues ever. Thank y'all 🤘
@jamesnorthup7717
@jamesnorthup7717 3 жыл бұрын
Title why Pantera broke up, There's no good answers to why the band broke up Why did I watch this??
@integrity101
@integrity101 3 жыл бұрын
The band took a planned break to release side projects by all 4 members. Half the band wanted a few months off & the other half wanted a few years off. All 4 struggled with substance abuse issues and their was a massive communication breakdown then a murder happened. That's the answer
@robert.m4676
@robert.m4676 3 жыл бұрын
Because it’s Pantera!
@HeathenDance
@HeathenDance 3 жыл бұрын
@@integrity101 Regardless that, one should also ask if Phil's voice was still in shape for Pantera.
@integrity101
@integrity101 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeathenDance no
@gavinwurm3097
@gavinwurm3097 3 жыл бұрын
It was Phil who struggled with heroin
@edwardrichard2561
@edwardrichard2561 2 жыл бұрын
My boy just paid for us to see the first show in the States of their “reunion” tour. I’m stoked.
@alany2669
@alany2669 3 жыл бұрын
0:06 Crazy to think all 3 are dead now
@robertpontius1689
@robertpontius1689 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a sad thought. R.I.P. guys. We'll never forget any of you.
@NihilisticCynic
@NihilisticCynic 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite band of all time. Have my Like.
@darthvaper6745
@darthvaper6745 3 жыл бұрын
Zakk Wylde, Anselmo, Rex and Hell Hammer on drums....yeeeeessss
@daveclark9233
@daveclark9233 3 жыл бұрын
i like the sound of this
@Geewunner4life
@Geewunner4life 3 жыл бұрын
Or Lars Ulrich on drums and Lil Wayne on guitar!! 🤘🤘
@JunkyardHog
@JunkyardHog 3 жыл бұрын
@@Geewunner4life 🤣
@robertayoder2063
@robertayoder2063 3 жыл бұрын
Who is hell hammer i must be out the loop
@daveclark9233
@daveclark9233 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertayoder2063 hes the drummer for a norwegian group called mayhem
@GaryGoRound-to7ld
@GaryGoRound-to7ld 3 жыл бұрын
I seen them in concert many times...was always the best times I had at any concert
@JT-dc8fs
@JT-dc8fs 3 жыл бұрын
I still wear Pantera shirts
@scottalbaugh167
@scottalbaugh167 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pantera for the 90’s. You completely rocked us all and it was then of what I consider to be the best times of my life and in my prime. For that I am eternally grateful and most of all may God bless the Abbott brothers. And may they both reside in mansions in heaven.
@techdeathhippie6319
@techdeathhippie6319 3 жыл бұрын
I saw them 5 times .The best of all time
@aerykauston614
@aerykauston614 3 жыл бұрын
Nice piece on Pantera !!! Have anything about Dax Riggs and Acid Bath? Am curious about his days with them, of course, but also his times with Deadboy and the Elephantmen and Agents of Oblivion. The I, Zombie theme song is the last brush I've had with his work.. any chance of you covering this if you haven't already?
@daBEAGLE1017
@daBEAGLE1017 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about Phils heroin destroying the band yet forget about 2 brothers being full blown alcoholics. Its a tough situation all around.
@integrity101
@integrity101 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@goneburnforher
@goneburnforher 3 жыл бұрын
Thats IT, its Always the "illegal" drugs, people focusing on
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