Side Imaging is EVERYTHING! (How to Find Crappie on New Lake)

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Day 1 of the Crappie Expo Tournament. My brother and I realied heavily on side imaging to scan for crappie underneath docks. Unfortunately, the bite wasn't great, but we managed to pull out a couple nice slabs.
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[@harryduncan6699]

Watched your sonar videos, thought you might point out a couple things. On side-scan the distance left or right is range minus depth. And you might explain what makes fish arches. Simple physics…. depth, speed, and where the fish enters the cone. The height of the arch on 2D sonar, is determined by where the fish enters the cone and the depth of the cone. Example: draw a cone, then draw a vertical line down the center. The line down the side of the cone os longer than the center line. The difference is greater the deeper the cone. Let’s say 30 feet deep…..that is the center of the cone. The edge of the cone may be 30 feet 3 inches. Fish goes through the center of the cone, the sonar will show the fish going from 30’3” to 30’ back to 30’3”…..thus drawing the cone. The deeper the fish the greater the arch. If the fish doesn’t go through the center the flatter the arch. In shallow water it will be a line. If the fish goes through the edge it may be just a dot. The size of the fish is determined by the thickness of the arch with larger fish absorbing more of the signal. Larger fish often have a different color center in the arch. The length of the arch is determined by how quick the fish leaves the cone. It could be boat speed, chart speed, width of cone where the fish is located, and where in the cone did the fish pass. Also a fish can’t make an arch if he is 6 feet deep in a 30 ft. cone. The distance the fish is from the transducer determines the arch.

[@fxnepilogue]

I’ve only fished Hamilton one time over a few days and couldn’t get a crappie bite. I moved down to DeGray I think is what it was and did much better.

[@arlynhelmuth8413]

Always love your show! I'm learning, I wish I could go with someone, would be my dream!

[@FloppingCrappie]

There are a number of Facebook fishing groups that you might find someone with a boat to go with. The crappie fishing Facebook groups that I'm apart of are always really nice and willing to share info.

[@joemartin6439]

I am so glad you engine worked well for you Davidson, some day please do a show on rods

[@jeffdurocher8669]

Appreciate your teaching and sharing

[@FloppingCrappie]

You're welcome

[@jjmcg9688]

I respect the over excited screw up. Gives me hope!!

[@lukemirly404]

We are just getting into crappie fishing. We have a helix 9 on our boat but have never really learned how to use the side imaging. Could you do a short in depth video of what settings you have your fish finder on? Thanks!

[@stevesteve4350]

Great show.

[@FloppingCrappie]

Thanks, and thanks for watching!

[@galaxygoonz6303]

Great Video Buddy😎🙏🤙💪👌😁👍🔥 Thats cool you have a bro #crappiecrazy

[@FloppingCrappie]

Thanks, I was glad he could make the trip with me. Don't get to vacation much together.

[@galaxygoonz6303]

@@FloppingCrappie yessir Heck yea.i havent fished with my bro since we was kids.I feel ya Fam 🙏🙏

[@6dangerousdon6]

Great tip on the side imaging as always.Did you record this back in October during the Crappie Expo ? Its not 85 here in Arkansas this week or for the past 3-4 weeks.

[@FloppingCrappie]

Yes, this was early October 2-6th I think. I finally got around to editing these videos. 🤦‍♂️

[@bakervinci163]

I’m glad to see I’m not the only one struggling in the south.

[@FloppingCrappie]

The crappie should be setting up on deeper brush piles this time of year. I've seen some pics/videos from texas guys pulling them out of deeper water.

[@bakervinci163]

Chad, I suspect that the host of this show is too polite to reply, but it ain’t like that. The first day I had livescope I limited out at Ross Barnett. That was a lucky anomaly.

[@bakervinci163]

So this was published in December, but must have been on a diff day/ date

[@northameicanfisherman4032]

I know its been a long time. Do you recall if you anchored and casted into the fish. or used trolling motor to kind of spot lock yourself in front of them? thanks

[@FloppingCrappie]

I used a trolling motor, but i did not have spot lock.

[@ppdrawings]

When you see those trees and fish on the side imaging . . . how can you tell how deep or shallow they are?? how can you tell how far away you are from the fish??

[@FloppingCrappie]

It is hard to tell exactly how deep the fish ate in the water column with side imaging. A rule of thumb is the longer the shadow an image creates, the higher in the water colum it is. As for distance from the boat, you can use the toggle keypad to scroll over to the school of fish. On the top of the screen it will show how many ft(m) you are away from that school.

[@fjin1]

How do you retrieve your marker ? Using a net ? It is not easy to do with a deep v boat

[@SK_CrappieCatching]

Dang.... Did you leave twin off in front of brother? Thought I was lookn at two Floppin Crappie in your boat..LOL It's a lot of fun scanning and finding structure..... Was wondering where you've been......

[@FloppingCrappie]

Haha, we thought about wearing the same shirt one day, but thought people we get to confused. I spent most of November chasing whitetail instead of editing..oops. how did your hunting season go?

[@SK_CrappieCatching]

@@FloppingCrappie Hopefully it'll get cold here soon so I can get back at them.....I haven't been out in a while just not hot enough......I had a few sets in the stands but they were miserable..... swatting skeeters ain't fun.....

[@johnnysellers8213]

Hey I'm in Georgia one website when I go on to find maps of lakes then I brush piles marked on the maps

[@FloppingCrappie]

I wish my state (Wisconsin) had something on their website like this. There are other 3rd party site with good info though.

[@michaelwilburn5258]

Nice video

[@FloppingCrappie]

Thanks

[@DieterMelhorn]

I hate seeing fishing videos when it was warm and trees were green...LOL!! Just messing, it’s been chilly fishing here. My channel is mainly catfish, but I love your content.

[@FloppingCrappie]

haha, up here (Wisconsin) temps dropped into below zero territory.

[@tatorbug77]

How do I find the maps that show the brushpiles? I’ve gone to www.agfc.com, but not sure where to go from there.

[@FloppingCrappie]

here is a better link to the locations. apps.agfc.com/mapper/

[@Doug_Goin]

@@FloppingCrappie That's a great resource. Thanks for sharing!

[@mastermouaable]

Side image is next on my list but it’s going to be a good upgrade.

[@FloppingCrappie]

You'll love it!

[@Spidermonkeys29]

What humminbird helix unit are you currently using?

[@slabslayer258]

Well have you got your Sam Rayburn plans together yet I been on fish all year now I’m in learning mode to figure out what our crappie do in the lake itself in our so Called winter time I’ve been finding them just not in big groups but we also have 2 rivers that feed Rayburn an crappie run it in late December through February I just don’t think all I fish leave the lake an go into both rivers I think plenty stay out in the lake just got to learn what they do

[@FloppingCrappie]

I'm trying to get a trip planned for either late May this year or October, working on sponsors to help pay for gas 💰

[@billybarnett8942]

Does the helix 8 si unit have a cursor to mark brush piles like the humminbirds. 9 10 12 units ? Thanks love your channel.

[@FloppingCrappie]

Yes they do

[@christopherbrown577]

@@FloppingCrappie what about the helix 7

[@FloppingCrappie]

@@christopherbrown577 the helix 7 has a cursor as well to mark waypoints

[@arlynhelmuth8413]

What kind of line do you recommend or use? A high visibility maybe?

[@FloppingCrappie]

When shooting docks a lot of anlgers use high vis line so they can see soft bites. We were using 10lb braid, which may have been part of the reason we didn't get has many bites. I have found that crappie don't mind braid line in most areas. I have fished with a number of guides that will use 20 or 30lb braid for crappie almost all the time.

[@arlynhelmuth8413]

Ok thanks.

[@stacylolley]

Honey Hole Outdoors for the win!!

[@arlynhelmuth8413]

What's a good gear ratio for crappie? 5.2.1 or 6.2.1??

[@FloppingCrappie]

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[@lonniehall9006]

When you are looking at docks, turn side image to one side only, and you are looking at full screen, shooting at dock

[@FloppingCrappie]

good tip, thanks!

[@georgeclapenstein7823]

lmao I literally fished this exact spot back in July. I found the same thing however they were really stubborn that day as well. I figured they may have been white bass. i caught a few further down by the abandon dock just north of the bridge.

[@FloppingCrappie]

Those crappie on Hamilton are tough to get to bite, not sure I'll be making a trip back there next year...3 crappie in 4 days of fishing is not a fun trip.

[@georgeclapenstein7823]

@@FloppingCrappie me neither however it was a great vacation for the family. Have you ever fished Toldeo bend Reservoir? Also Lake D'arbonne in north Louisiana. Both have 1.5-2lb average sacalait and some of the best sacalait fishing I've ever done. Can't wait until my work is done for the Spring...until then keep pumping out fishing videos for us. LOL

[@FloppingCrappie]

@@georgeclapenstein7823 Toledo Bend is on my bucket list to fish, hopefully I can get a trip in this year. Thanks for watching!

[@crimsonstoner8142]

What’s the difference between helix 7 si g3n and the helix 7 di g3n?

[@FloppingCrappie]

The si model has side imaging and down imaging. The di model only has down imaging.

[@fisherman7621]

Hi there flopping crappie wanted to ask a question I have tried to find a vidoes on how to use the Garmin echomap plus 94sv but the only thing I see on youtube is mostly of hummingbird or lowarnce I see u explain and very detailed about using the hummingbird love your videos I wanted to see if you could help me in anyway like identifying fish I have never used any depth finders at all my first boat and the Garmin came with the boat I just don't have no videos on how to use if u can help me in anyway I really would appreciate it thank and keep the good videos coming take care

[@FloppingCrappie]

I have an echomap 93sv and was planning on filming a series, like the humminbird series i filmed. Hopefully I can get it done before the lake freeze over. The humminbird videos I have should help atleast show what you're looking for on 2d, downvu, and sidevu for the Garmin. These units are pretty much the same when it comes to these views, the only thing that is different is the setup screens.

[@fisherman7621]

@@FloppingCrappie yes your right I just don't know how to read the graph at all lol especially the 2d I understand the downvue a little cause I see the dots that indicate fish lol I just I'm just not getting it lol but I really appreciate u talking to me about it thank you

[@fisherman7621]

And that video that u was saying you could might put out I would definitely appreciate that as well thank you for your time God Bless

[@ninjagodzilla6402]

Did you ever figure out youre graph?

[@glennmartin8949]

What Fish finder are you using? Thanks

[@FloppingCrappie]

In this video, I was using a humminbird helix 9 SI GPS

[@glennmartin8949]

@@FloppingCrappie Thanks for the Response!!

[@ninjagodzilla6402]

I know this os an old video but wow!! I live in arkansas.this year has been tough.im finding crappie but there not hitting real good for some reason.i have caught a few.it gets tough out there.couldnt catch them without the 93sv for sure.

[@rwp2418]

I hate those 2 fish days from southern Illinois.

[@FloppingCrappie]

They make for very long days on the water for sure.

[@bakervinci163]

It’s got to be tough to fish and not see a “tourney guy”. I would at least have a scout give me a general idea of where they are. You are more confident than I am.

[@FloppingCrappie]

Its turns out that most of the tournament anglers were in the creek arm directly across the channel from where we were fishing. They stayed in that creek arm the entire day, which is why we didn't see many of them.

[@bakervinci163]

The two options are creeks or deep water structure, I guess? This is really my first year of fishing year round.

[@bakervinci163]

Hopefully you have show from the next day. I love the idea of fishing the same lake as those guys

[@JaredCarter84]

Is that the mega chirp?

[@FloppingCrappie]

No, this is a first generation helix.

[@JaredCarter84]

Flopping Crappie ok thanks. I also have the 1gen and mine doesn’t look that good. Guess I need to do some adjusting on settings

[@randy1ization]

why didnt u fish the first spot u marked, that was a pile of crappie.. they dont always sit on brush,.,

[@charlesronk2989]

Hey Davis, I have a 16 foot fiberglass Nitro bass boat. I have about $3000 to upgrade the trolling motor and a Fish Finder. Any suggestions for the combo?

[@FloppingCrappie]

What kinda of trolling motor does it have now? Any electronics come with the boat?

[@charlesronk2989]

@@FloppingCrappie i have a motor guide Brute 52lb thrust. It can push against about a 20mph wind, but that is on high. I would like to increase that a little. Hooked to the I have a Lawrance Hook2 fish finder. At the helm I have a Humminbird 798ci HD SI combo. I plan to eliminate the hook2 maybe make an Ice fishing box for it since it has an ice fishing mode. Not sure what to put up front or at the helm. Any thoughts

[@RaisingHellOutdoors]

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[@FloppingCrappie]

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[@stayncoolyo]

Sweet retweet, Me & my lil lady would Luv a weekend here; any help would B much appreciated brotha.

[@yeshuaadoneinu436]

that looked like a sandbass

[@FloppingCrappie]

Unfortunately there are any sand bass in this lake where I filmed. I love catching sand bass on top water though!

[@nicrobison4487]

I thought this was a video about how to find crappie I don't care about condos

[@FloppingCrappie]

Gotta pay for boat gas somehow 🤷‍♂️

[@fxnepilogue]

Y’all twins?

[@kcoutdoorsmissouri4052]

Weighing crappie???

[@FloppingCrappie]

Yep

[@Repsol000]

Old lady said no tournament this time?

[@FloppingCrappie]

this was an invitation only tournament.