Why the Music in the Live Action Disney Remakes is Worse than you Thought

First off, huge apologies to Adam from YMS, I completely forgot that he was the one who first noticed Simba getting pitch-corrected to the wrong note, here's the tweet (it's an absolutely hilarious thread, go check it out)
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I was watching him stream himself editing his Lion King video while I was working on my own and I remember thinking it was a good thought and over time I completely forgot that it was him noticing it. This is totally me to blame for not being better at managing my citations.
Again, really sorry to Adam from YMS, please go and check out his Lion Kind video, it's AMAZING:
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Sources and other misc. links:
A bunch of interviews surrounding Emma Watson and her audition for Beauty and the Beast:
www.justjaredjr.com/2017/01/17...
www.insider.com/beauty-and-th...
abc7ny.com/entertainment/why-...
A really great read about how the autotuning in Beauty and the Beast covered up Watson's performance:
robinwhitehouse.com/2017/04/0...
Another really great insight about how auto tune affected Watson's performance and what that means in the broader scope of things:
www.elisesvoicelessons.com/bl...
Another interesting take on her voice:
www.classicfm.com/discover-mu...
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Image link for the Disney Renaissance picture:
imgur.com/gallery/Gk87x
consequenceofsound.net/2016/1...
Howard Ashman's website is an absolutely FANTASTIC resource for anyone interested in looking into more of his life and work (and it's where I got the picture of him performing a production of Aladdin):
www.howardashman.com/
www.howardashman.com/howards-...
Honestly, Wikipedia had most of the answers I was looking for
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beauty_...)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin...)

[@eriksnider7189]

They wanted Emma Watson because they wanted Hermione

[@thesnatcher3616]

Emma Watson was good as Hermione that we can all agree. She was too pretty though.

[@moodybash7334]

@@thesnatcher3616 she did Hermione well. But Steve Kloves made her too perfect which is completely different from the og hermione. Forgive me for ranting. I just can't forgive the man who ruined her.

[@QuikVidGuy]

@@moodybash7334 "a smooooth Hermione"

[@moodybash7334]

@@QuikVidGuy more like, a Mary Sue Hermione 😫

[@pcbassoon3892]

And she also wanted to be Hermione so she refused to wear historically accurate undergarments. Bloomers didn't exist yet. If she hiked that skirt up, she would have had full vag on display. Maybe people should have figured out underwear by the 18th century, but they hadn't. They just flapped loose.

[@_XR40_]

The most confusing thing to me is why a CGI _Lion King_ is called "Live-action"...

[@madisondawson2989]

XR40 cause it’s not animated

[@XerkDaniels]

@@madisondawson2989... Wut

[@MariaThePotterNut]

@@madisondawson2989 Honey, not a single frame of that movie had anything real in it. It was all animation. Amazing, realistic, CGI, animation. Even every background was made in a computer program.

[@madisondawson2989]

XerkDaniels wut it’s all cgi not physically animated with drawings in a studio it was edited because people filmed it then they edited lion bodies onto them

[@madisondawson2989]

MariaThePotterNut honey what I was trying to say was that it wasn’t physically animated drawings in a studio, it was all filmed then edited with cgi

[@DevilRiku48]

Cutting "be prepared" from the lion king is to me the most sacrilegious thing. It looks like Disney doesn't understand anymore the artwork they created.

[@bloopahVIII]

i believe most of the guys who worked on the original lion king left the studio long before the demake was announced

[@DevilRiku48]

@@bloopahVIII That's kind of a beginning of an explanation BUT ... Cutting "be prepared"! How could they think that it was not a very, very, very BAD idea.

[@bloopahVIII]

@@DevilRiku48 that's because they thought it wasn't realistic enough for a movie about singing lions

[@ArquaticDreamer1994]

I acutally heard it was becuase they wanted to take the goosestepping nazi esque part with the hyenas out but realized they couldn't really do that without rupturing the entire song so they just took out the entire song.

[@akuavit2747]

I guarantee it's because he's portrayed as a fascist dictator throughout that entire song, and the CCP didn't like it. In fact I'd bet good money on a lot of these "why did they do it? It's like they don't understand their fans anymore" decisions somehow being attributed back to CCP approval. There is serious money in the Chinese audience. Who cares about free speech and human rights violations when you can make literally billions of dollars for your shareholders, am I right? Fuck Disney.

[@CorvusCarmen]

I’m so sad as to what they did with Mulan, instead of a story of a woman sacrificing herself for her father and fighting in war whilst learning and growing stronger along the way- we got superpowers. The original Mulan is my favorite Disney movie, and they did the worst thing possible to it without actually hurting the original.

[@didimc6732]

i didn’t think abt this, ur right they totally diminished her efforts by making her seem superhuman

[@icemagiciangh3268]

They Percy Jacksoned her- they took the base character concept, and threw everything else out. I didn’t bother watching it all. The only real reason I’ve watched any live action is because others were there. It’s like they said in the video- there’s a big separation between musicals and animation. Taking the originals, fully ANIMATED films where you can create anything, and trying to shove it into real life is just painful to watch.

[@tree6787]

Agree 💯

[@Ajv516]

This has been going on in a lot of films-like Star Wars. No more “hero’s journey”. Hollywood is selling the idea that some are born exceptional, and that personal growth and development are unnecessary to achieve greatness.

[@cielomcmeekin7296]

I had to shut it off after 5 minutes. Then I fumed, decided I'd power thru, n had to shut it off after ten more minutes. The original was so good and they butchered it

[@joanahkirk338]

Someone tried convincing me Emma Watson wasn't autotuned in the film.

[@manoerinafanchannel3196]

Jonah Kirk same, i put the song through audacity to isolate her voice and it sounds worse than a 2008 vocaloid cover /barf

[@cherryspice1011]

Jonah Kirk clearly they are deaf

[@kadijahamad9862]

How did you not smack them in the face?

[@reginaldqurst9064]

I bet that they think auto tune means sounding like T Pain. Like, you can auto tune people subtlety

[@RedRoseSeptember22]

I was horrified when I heard her voice, why didn't they just hire a separate singer to edit in over that part while Emma lip synced? At least then the song would've been better.

[@tymek435]

"People will spend their money and enjoy these films because they remind them of something good." Saddest final line and delivery.

[@Attmay]

tymek435 It’s the same reason anybody still eats spam: because it reminds them of actual meat.

[@stickywater3728]

Attmay omg I hate you. I didn’t even realize that with spam until now...

[@mechajay3358]

That's a terrible way of embracing Nostalgia.

[@icecreamhero2375]

I don't mind the live action remakes I see them more as advertisments for the originals. People will check out the remakes then go back and watch the classic version. For example when I saw the peanuts movie I thought it was incredible. I was always somewhat aware of Charlie Brown buty not completely familar I saw the specails afew times but thats it. So then I went and read the strip. Now I read it every day and I am a Charlie Brown super fan and know everything about it and am adicted. The live action remakes could do the same for someone else.

[@Tortidis987]

Attmay woah woah woah. If you've ever had spam in Korean or Hawaiian dishes it can actually taste amazing and not just an imitation!!

[@snoozlewoozle]

"everyone was praising the live action for showing accurate culture and representation" That aged like fine wine 💀

[@hoesmad8207]

Why

[@snoozlewoozle]

@@hoesmad8207 there’s a lot of videos detailing the cultural inconsistencies, plus they filmed it outside of a concentration camp, plus a lot lot of other reasons. I’d recommend watching some post release critiques. Good luck finding many positive ones

[@RaidenTheRipper88]

​@@hoesmad8207the original had better representation

[@lyrics_m_sic]

Aged like milk

[@Cytrusowy_Lunatyk]

Live action Aladdin and India - inspired costumes 💀

[@amypaxton7137]

The biggest slap in the face was that Ewan McGregor CAN SING. He is amazing and anyone who has seen or heard Moulin Rouge knows that.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

YES!

[@sarahouillette1357]

TOTALLY AGREE!!!

[@littleone1656]

Sorry, but he wasn't that great.

[@practicallyperfect2941]

I love that film! 💕💕

[@thetramp123]

@@littleone1656 Yeah, McGregor is still pretty great overall in Moulin Rouge but I'd agree that he isn't that strong of a singer. He's mostly fine, but it works for the movie I think.

[@abigaelrarts2257]

SINGING IN CHARACTER IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN BEING PITCH PERFECT

[@FayeJones]

Both are important

[@raintowns]

@@FayeJones Which is why she made the distinction of "more important." Both are indeed important, but one is more important than the other!

[@raidedsalt7110]

Singing with emotions and personality > Singing with perfect intonation

[@t.e.burgos3263]

The problem is that Emma Watson is a horrible actress and an even worse singer, which made her "singing" in the _Beauty & the Beast_ remake neither convincing nor on pitch. The fact that the autotune that they used to make her sound good was horribly noticeable made it WORSE. Yes, worse than it already was due to her not being able to sing or act.

[@cinemasketch9644]

@@t.e.burgos3263 I mean she's not a great singer, but I thought her acting was decent. Definitely worse than her early stuff

[@QuikVidGuy]

so basically: animation works better for musicals, but disney isn't selling music, it's selling disney

[@3dollarchain50]

exactly

[@Paulito-ym4qc]

you would think that because of this logic (which is correct) the remakes would be better if they weren't musicals, but alas, mulan proved that thesis wrong as well.

[@It_Is_Oylenox]

Yep

[@QuikVidGuy]

@@Paulito-ym4qc I mean it COULD'VE worked if it wasn't a big money laundering scheme to create propaganda for the Chinese version of ICE, but that might be kind of pointless to hope for from a company as big as Disney

[@royalblanket]

@@QuikVidGuy Mulan could've been really good if they just made a new movie about Mulan instead of a remake and actually did some research on culture

[@BlakeWR81]

I've seen the dress Lily James had to fit in for Cinderella at a costume exhibition. It's not photoshopped, she actually fit into that thing.

[@charlotteslays]

im pretty sure she was corseted tight laced the fuck up to do it tho

[@graybirdwoods2264]

They used the hugeness of the skirt and the corset to trick you into thinking that her waist was smaller than physically possible, still insane but it’s meant to trick your eye

[@siennacindric1081]

@@graybirdwoods2264 i think her waist was like 44cm in the film because of corsets and her natural size. it's crazy, and honestly goals

[@KyrieFortune]

Apparently the colour was a bit doctored to make it prettier, but the size? 100% natural

[@Windmelodie]

@@graybirdwoods2264 I mean, that's how it's been historically done anyway. Even in Victorian times, women wore comfortable corsets that allowed for movement - none of this tight-stringing (or rarely done so by only some). It's all about creating illusions of shape, using certain colours and cuts, padding and petticoats etc. Disney actually did the wrong thing by trying to squeeze this poor young woman into a tightly strung corset, instead of just doing it the way it has always been done in history. Bernadette Banner on KZbin has lots of very educational and interesting videos regarding this topic and why "anti-corset wearers" like Emma Watson help perpetuate a false narrative surrounding corsets and their use.

[@nyxthefox2348]

I loved Mulan as a kid. My grandmother was a Chinese immigrant, and I felt more connected to my culture. I used to sing all the songs because I loved that I could share a culture with someone like Mulan. I realised it wasn't completely accurate as I got older, and to be honest I didn't really care. It was a part of my childhood I will always love and cherish. I watched the live action one and kinda just felt it lacked... a soul I guess.

[@abydosianchulac2]

Same, I grew up with it glad my grandparents' culture wasn't being completely played for a laugh, and then as an adult I got Mulan using magic that only exists in the Western understanding of Chinese culture. Yay.

[@swampduck2609]

Some of it is your Soul is not older, My nephews and nieces watch them are in awe. I feel the same way you do however. When your a kid being enchanted comes with the territory. As an adult that only comes with drugs.

[@nyxthefox2348]

@@abydosianchulac2 It drives me up the wall. I adored positive Asian representation at all. Now my grandmother has passed it means so much more to me.

[@I_Am_NiiTA]

It did, man. It did 😭

[@GG-kn2se]

@@nyxthefox2348Movies exist outside the US you know.

[@DorthLous]

Don't worry, Mulan crashed and burned for exactly everything but the music...

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

About damn time one of these films did.

[@supme7558]

Let's be fair covid 19 help

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@supme7558 and the main actresses views on Hong Kong didn’t help either 😬

[@adumba3709]

Mulan didn't even have music lmaooo

[@alcole-holic8779]

@@adumba3709 I’m pretty sure that’s the joke.

[@Felarchy]

I'm from the future: Live-Action Mulan is awful. No one wants it.

[@KazuhaEien]

I agree. I will never see it in my life, even if it is free. ...Love your Ferdinand icon BTW

[@Felarchy]

@@KazuhaEien Fully agree. I watched reviews and it looks awful. Disney is not getting my money for that one. Also yes, I am Ferdinand von Aegir

[@kochaos6129]

Quit poking around back there, you keep bringing my goldfish back to life!

[@sergegordeev9426]

Mulan original: a woman sneaks into the army to save her dad, fails but succeeds later at training, saves her country by using her brain. Mulan remake: a magical woman wants to fight, sneaks into the army, doesn't need training, fights a witch, reveals herself and then uses acrobatics and fighting skills and magic to kill the bad guy.

[@lc9245]

@@sergegordeev9426 wouldn’t mind any of the magical nonsense if the movie wasn’t so boring and unentertaining. Remakes always forget to entertain the audience and stubbornly focus on being a remake.

[@tyna3778]

I just love how passionate this guy is. The absolute rage in his voice is pure gold.

[@amyvasquez4268]

His rant over the removal of Be Prepared has unironically more emotion than most Disney remakes lol!

[@nanalove3819]

What you say about Emma Watson is so true. Maybe she can sing, it looks like her voice is not so bad. But her performance is so emotionless. I thought that it was because she was so focused on singing properly (as she is not used to it) that she forgot to be in character, but you are probably right, it must be the autotune. And the fact that they paired her up with professional singers so we can all hear the difference? They didn't do her a favor.

[@cancanjaker1620]

I will say it is ill preparation on her part. She had months to prepare for the role, plus any amount of professional help she can get. Surely that can give a better performance than what was presented even if not on the level of professional singers. If autotune is what is letting her down, then they can simply not use autotune, it must have been an even worse disaster without autotune that they keep at it and then blame on it's use.

[@xragdoll5662]

I honestly think she can’t act, we can’t comments on her acting in Harry Potter since she was learning over the years, but they should’ve hired somebody else. She got too involved with the production team too, it was a mess

[@dwilliams7377]

@@xragdoll5662 I know everyone comes to her defense saying, “but she was young!” But so were the Fanning sisters, and so were the cast of stranger things. Talent can be found young, and illuminated with good direction.

[@DCDSG]

She’s a pretty bad actress, she can only support minor roles like in little women but she’s borderline in there too. Pretty much like all other kids cast in Harry Potter who were all bad.

[@nanalove3819]

@@DCDSG not all the kids in HP were bad. Rupert Grint for instance is a good actor, he just happens to not play a lot.

[@goldenhand9107]

alternate title: Sideways getting angrier and angrier at the Disney execs for disrespecting Howard Ashman's legacy

[@megamage911]

Yeah, that seems about right.

[@guyinmink4068]

Yes, Ashman is probably rolling in his grave.

[@lunymoon2839]

No, this is Sideways in pain. He's not angry, he's hurting. I wish Disney could listen to people the way the Sonic people listened when the internet complained, if only to never hear this level of heartache in this man's voice again.

[@Schwa_Iska]

Luny Moon I love Sideways’s take on these movies and all, but what happened with Sonic is never going to happen with Disney movies. Ever. And it shouldn’t. If a big studio like Disney listened to the little guy (Sideways) they (Disney) would never win. There is no possible decision that can be made that will please everyone. There would be someone else on the internet complaining “why did you listen to some KZbinR instead of the highly paid experts you painstakingly selected for this movie?!” I’d love it if Disney hired Sideways though. EDIT: I feel like I missed your main point which was just simply Sideways is in pain and that’s bad. I hate that this KZbin app makes it so hard to look back at the original comment while you’re typing.

[@szteto]

He sounds like mumkey Jones when he gets angry and I’m kinda there for it

[@gracelardner]

i just feel bad because there are probably hundreds of talented girls who have been training vocally for a role like Belle but they would rather have someone who is already famous

[@DeadKraken]

Also prettier tbf Emma may be cute to some, but is in no way the "most beautiful girl in town" as Belle was, and her sharp features don't fit the character at all imo

[@KTBEverlasting]

That's how they made their money: bringing in famous people.

[@starlaphantom2642]

LadyKraken she also made the character more agressive and didn’t play Belle right

[@Delijume]

Yeah, I read on reddit from “people who knew celebrities before they got famous” that Emma Watson was a bit of an elitist bully at her school, seeking attention and making fun of anyone who wasn’t as pretty as her. Then she made it up in interviews that she was the one being bullied in school. Seeing her performances I can pretty much believe it. She seems so aggressive and lacking in real empathy.

[@quirkyfetner]

Spielberg’s Maria for the new West Side Story is a KZbinr!

[@bygonestales2171]

Im an opera singer. In university, there was one singer who I believed could never be successful. A few months later when I heard her again, she had practiced so much that she was one of the best in the entire course. It was a completely different voice. And the injury thing is for real. I once got into the final of a competition and got really sick, but I was heart broken at the prospect of not doing it. So I did opera for half an hour on stage which is very demanding, and from that SINGLE performance I had to go through 2 years of vocal rehab. only being able to sing a scale again after a few months. I had to go on vocal rest for weeks, literally not being allowed to speak a single sentence for weeks.

[@Shaylanae0605]

I also find it frustrating that Nala HAS her own song!!! It’s called “Shadow Lands” and its in the broadway musical and it’s her “I want” song and expresses why she has to leave! So why “Spirit” instead of a song she already has 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@amyvasquez4268]

Lion King musical is soooo good. They should’ve given it the Hamilton treatment and release a proshot of it instead of that godawful remake

[@Krebfest]

“Accurate and healthy Asian representation” Yikes that line hasn’t aged well

[@murciadoxial8056]

Like fine milk left on a glass in the middle of arizona.

[@Fabbs-he1my]

I don’t get it what’s wrong with it?

[@murciadoxial8056]

@@Fabbs-he1my You mean to tell me that you don't get why a movie that mishandles and mismanages most of the cultural elements in its portrayal of the ballad, that doesn't even adapt the ballad right, that can't even be bothered to ask or hire actual chinese people to consult the historical and cultural accuracy of what they are making while filming in MAINLAND CHINA, that was shot near muslim concentration camps with the help of the same government agency that is in charge of those concentration camps, you mean to tell me that you don't get why a movie with all of that baggage is poor asian representation?... Is that what you are trying to tell me?, on god?

[@KaputOtter]

@@murciadoxial8056 Honestly it's absurd how they mishandled this film, you really summed it all up here. I'm not surprised about the music. It's Disney, of course they're going to capitalize on the original score. But all the rest of this? Still pretty shocking!

[@lemonzest4196]

@@Fabbs-he1my they completely demolished what they were selling. being authentic to the original story of mulan. they didn't even get close to Chinese culture. its just...disappointing

[@ooferz3256]

as shafrilias has said, "disney doesn't have to try anymore" and they know it. thats why the live-action films suck so much

[@CarlosGarcia-rf5tw]

that's why they make live-action films period. just rehashings of well-known stories

[@thegoatgirl]

And even their originals are copied stories.... Just sayin'

[@gayshaymin3712]

surprise! it was capitalism this whole time

[@viggo8213]

And the worst thing is, everyone is fuckinv falling for it.

[@marcello7781]

@@thegoatgirl adaptating is not copying tbh.

[@vaiksvaiks]

The analysis on Baloo's Bear Necessities is excellent. The performance is outstanding and goes beyond vocal perfection as you would hope to see in stage opera, and you can still see that it is vocally demanding and performed with exceptional care. This is a song that looks easy but is far from being easy to sing, let alone perform.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Yes, but Neel Sethi's Mowgli is what ruins it.

[@LondonLite02]

Will Smith was very successful and smart not to turn in a performance that was an impression of Robin Williams. I give him big kudos for that, and no doubt it was hard given how large Robin Williams as Genie looms. "Prince Ali" was my favorite part of the remake, entirely due to Will Smith's performance.

[@starlingelliot7]

i have completely forgotten everything about the live action aladdin, but me and my brother will BLAST prince ali when we are in the car together.

[@Wigfield84]

Agreed! Almost every one of these live action movies has one number that turns out amazing. Gaston in BATB, Prince Ali in Aladdin, Kiss the Girl in Little Mermaid being ones I loved, but the rest are just bleh.

[@DCDSG]

I agree, Aladdin overall was also a good remake somehow, by doing things differently and added interesting bits. Also really enjoyed jungle book. But the rest is 💩

[@cottoncandiez8872]

​@@DCDSGI liked maleficent

[@apollosperineum]

@@DCDSGi don’t feel like the cinderella one is awful? it’s definitely different and not as good but not awful. scared for the snow white one !!

[@rowanlee1619]

I love that this video came out far before we all realized that Mulan was a train-wreck.

[@jaelie8398]

When will Disney realize that all but one of their live action remakes has been abominable?

[@Anansi__]

@@jaelie8398 Which one? I liked Cinderella tbh. Didn't really love the original

[@jaelie8398]

@@Anansi__ I think the best one was Maleficent

[@crow5326]

@@jaelie8398 same

[@annaferns1840]

@@jaelie8398 Maleficent was a spinoff. Not a remake.

[@bmgmadeleine]

The way I see it the remakes are all just expensive fan-fiction.

[@nierrar]

Fix-it fiction specifically. Complete with additions nobody asked for and omissions that leave everyone scratching their heads.

[@summerevening421]

Its more a like a copy-paste thing and convincing everyone that its so much better than the original

[@NormanReaddis]

A very expensive Broadway musical

[@fernandaadam1772]

​@@NormanReaddis It's not even that. A Broadway musical requires talent

[@flyingstapler1241]

Technically the original Disney movies are also fanfic themselves

[@buggybug09]

That part with simba made me physically flinch. I'm a chior student, hearing that from a perfessional movie was just sad. Goes to show how much Disney just shoved crap together and said "YES PERFECT, WHERES MY MONEY?!"

[@ioliteandfriends4235]

(hello 3 years in the future) i know another factor with Dan Stevens' role as the Beast was that he actually prepared for this movie by taking vocal lessons at the Royal Academy of Music (as specific in an interview he had during the release of the movie). and it's a shame that there isn't an official release of Evermore without all the beast voice over editing because I would genuinely love to see how well he performed without the extra layers.

[@iain9757]

Massively agree

[@AllWordsAreDust]

Another highly agree. Even with the overediting, his rendition still has a good amount of actual character in the voice.

[@09scarecrow]

There are Evermore edits here on KZbin where people tried to peel away the voice modulations that turned Dan Stevens into the Beast--I downloaded my favorite one after I saw the movie and I still listen to it! They all retain some electronic-y sound but you can pretty much hear how Dan Stevens sounded. I remember seeing an interview cut where one of his teachers talked about how impressed she was with Stevens' efforts.

[@Peasant_of_Pontus]

The director of Mulan said that people don't sing when waging war, which is a really ridiculous thing to say. Soldiers love popular music as much as anyone, armies plays martial music since antiquity and have singing drills in training.

[@saxdude01]

Seriously, watch Full Metal Jacket. At the very end they are singing the Mickey Mouse March. Also look at old front lines from say the revolution or the civil war, there were drummers and flutist and the soldiers would often have a march song they would sing while heading to battle.

[@fukutada6433]

True. To add more onto that point, in the first Wreck-It Ralph movie, the King's guards marched around singing "Oreo" in a militaristic fashion, which was copied and mirrored off of what the Red Coats chanted (even in the American Revolutionary War) while marching, and Wreck-It Ralph isn't even a war movie! Even during the American Civil War, sometimes when enemy camps were almost right next to each other, the rebs and union soldiers would even hear one another sing and join in... s̶i̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶o̶r̶

[@PlanetZoidstar]

*Laughs in Sabaton*

[@FBI-dr4bk]

*Fortunate Son starts getting louder*

[@watchm4ker]

*ahems* kzbin.info/www/bejne/joSohmiwfcyWisU

[@daniellenicholle6670]

"Imitation over innovation" is the perfect slogan for Disney remakes.

[@robbhays8077]

Except Cinderella. They actually tried to do something new with that one.

[@jebes909090]

we are so woke , we will make a black mans performance sound like a white mans and a woman performance completely faked by machines........oh god .....we're....so........progressive *jerks off vigorously*

[@flibbertygibbette]

"imitation over innovation" basically describes 99.9% of Hollywood and nearly all studio productions.

[@ccricers]

Well when you think about it, if we are aware that "woke" stuff is made for a cash grab, doesn't it make us woke about it too? Contrary to what most people think, the word "woke" is not limited to SJWs. "woke" just means having a heightened awareness about any issue. For us, the issue is terrible rehashes.

[@jebes909090]

@@ccricers oh jesus, double woke *starts crying* DOUBLE WOKE!

[@MicahiLove]

The "singing good in character" bit makes me realize......This video is basically reminding us that the actor/singer/dancer wasn't something that just "happened" back in the day. It was kind of necessary for an entire live performance to come together properly. Thank you for talking about this when it comes to conveying and recreating art properly.

[@musicyak3471]

As an avid Vocaloid fan who (actually uses similar robot-voice programs) Vocaloid sounds more alive than Emma Watson's performance

[@amyvasquez4268]

I LOVE that Mitchie M’s tuning of Vocaloids unironically sound far more human than Emma’s vocals lol

[@neko-love60]

Yeah, with the right tuning I tend to be surprised when the songs I heard are from Vocaloid because they _are_ that good.

[@cleo8332]

to be honest Will Smith did say that he was worried about doing the friend like me song, because Robin Williams did an unique job. so got to give Will credit for being honest and trying his best not to ruin the song.

[@TooCooFoYou]

I don’t like the new Aladdin, but I will admit that Will Smith’s Genie was a nice different take on the character.

[@KazuhaEien]

TooCooFoYou I agree

[@KazuhaEien]

I'm thankful for that. That's what I'd do if I were in a Disney remake.

[@kingofmonsters14]

only thing from that movie i like it's the epic version of Arabian Nights

[@thisissshe]

I liked how he did it. I'm not mad about it. I think he did a good job he was clearly trying to make it different enough to not take away from Robin Williams.

[@mulandulan]

I can feel his anger while talking about how Disney wasted Beyonce's voice in Lion King

[@animateddepression]

He should be angry about miscasting Nala in the first place. I think they sat down around a table and said "ok, who are famous black women kids will know? Oh, Beyonce! Let's get her!".

[@arkarts2987]

Is similar words to his, you can hear his facial expression.

[@KazuhaEien]

Ikr

[@joshuarumsey5639]

Beyonce wasted her own voice.

[@onna0325]

TittySprinkles Yeah, like I heard her voice and I didn’t think she fit the voice.

[@SaneTheBro]

4:57 it's even more impressive actually because not only did Daniel have to sing well, he had to be able to sing in an American accent because it's clear that Finch is an American character. It's insanely impressive and he barely gets credit for that role which he did such an outstanding job on.

[@nataliadanilina8652]

Oh my god, when you put on Will Smiths version of "Friend like me" on 14:15 I got goosebumps! It is a fricking crime that they didn't put it in the actual movie, it would have been so cool. We were robbed of something really good :(

[@flickcentergaming680]

Part of what made the original was how personalized Robin Williams made it! If Will Smith had been able to rap all of his, it would have been GREAT!

[@Leanne.Gray.]

You know, this whole "Belle is Hermione" shtick is one of my pet peeves. Belle is not a bookworm or a researcher - she's a *dreamer*. She reads novels and dreams of adventure. She's not a researcher, she's not a nerd, she's not someone who lives in books. She's independent and assertive. Hermione is a completely different kind of character - she's much more respectful of authority, for one thing, but she's also more interested in social justice. People seem to think that they're equivalent because girl + books = same person. Part of my issue with live action B&tB is that you have Hermione and the Beast - Emma Watson is playing in her comfort zone, and the character from the animated version is left behind completely.

[@eggeggaroo9051]

This comment is beautiful

[@AllyInReality]

I wouldn't want people to fucking call me a smarty nerd just because I got my collection of The Babysitter's Club pocketbook in the background XD

[@Gretaisworking]

You're so right oml... In one of her first scenes, Belle talks about how much she loves a romance novel and tells Gaston about using imagination while reading. That's... Not hermione, who read to learn, to research. It's not like people think every book is the same, so why do they think every woman who reads books is?

[@Lucas-si7hc]

belle is an infp not an intp like Hermione

[@AlienAteIt.MyNoraTees]

all bookworms are not the same.

[@chikengas4052]

They're just getting famous actors even if they don't really fit.

[@jaelie8398]

When Disney was alive the company was a place for undiscovered stars to get a foot in the door. Now the company is a place for washed-up stars to extend their 15 minutes of fame

[@chikengas4052]

Exactly, a reason MCU movies usually have actors you hadn't heard of on screen is because for some people, the actors they already know about gives them what they'll probably be like

[@ssharkbait]

@Greg Elchert I’m pretty sure the producers are the ones that want a big name cause they don’t want to take a gamble on people seeing it for nostalgia alone. There’s a reason Cats heavily advertised that Taylor Swift was in the movie (even though she was in it for only about 5 or 6 minutes). There are a ton of people who will watch a movie for a name alone, especially in this day and age when celebrities are even bigger than their work at times. So sure the movie would’ve made money but it can make so much more with a big name. I think adding one big name is fine as long as they are good for the character and have the chops needed to do well. Unfortunately that’s rarely the case. Again cause money.

[@yucol5661]

It makes money. We need to make sure it doesn’t in the future

[@georgecampbell9638]

@@jaelie8398 exactly. It all makes sense. Without Walt, there is no Disneyland

[@songbird6414]

I’ll be honest, when the cast of Beauty and the Beast was first announced, my first reaction was, “Emma’s not a singer though?” I was not convinced otherwise throughout the movie😂

[@amandaananda9029]

It baffles me that they didn't give Beyoncé Shadowland from the stage production! But honestly, that patron's point about needing original songs for Oscar-bait is probably the best point I've seen so far.

[@Querpt]

Emma Watson sounds like a very realistic Vocaloid.

[@KazuhaEien]

*Very badly tuned Vocaloid Because I am a Vocaloid fan and I have heard tuning that sounds way less artificial than Emma in the remake.

[@ahshitherewegoagain7461]

@@KazuhaEien Bro have you heard Iroha's euleria that Yuzuku Masu made? Much better than Emma Watson.

[@KazuhaEien]

@@ahshitherewegoagain7461 Well my comment was saying that there are actually tons of times when Vocaloids were tuned better than Emma Watson. I can see you replying to the person who made this comment, but my reply said that I knew that Vocaloids sound more realistic than Emma when they are well tuned.

[@Beelzebeag]

don't diss vocaloid like that bro 😔

[@rosesongoku6980]

(Laughs in IA singing Conqueror)

[@nataliecommittedarson9055]

Disney has just gotten so lazy and used to people just eating up their content, that they really aren’t trying anymore and just throwing things together.

[@niconachozstudio1952]

they don't really care if it's good or not they care about the money

[@animateddepression]

They don't put any effort into Marvel movies and they make Billions. Why bother?

[@keybladesrus]

I don't think they're just being lazy. I think they're being safe. They're trying to make the most money possible while taking the least risks possible.

[@niconachozstudio1952]

@@keybladesrus it's better to take risk

[@keybladesrus]

@@niconachozstudio1952 Not always, but I'm not trying to defend Disney. I'm just stating what I think their mentality is.

[@cor289]

it just makes me so sad that the project ashman was actually passionate about was rejected (when they knew he was dying!) only to be greenlit and changed beyond recognition after his death

[@Averagewannabe94]

SIDEWAYS! COME BACK! WE NEED MORE OF YOUR AMAZING MIND! YOUR VIDEOS HAVE BROUGHT SO MUCH TO THE MUSICAL, MUSIC, AND MOVIE SCORE LOVERS WORLD. PLEEEEASE COME BACK.

[@ccassbarker]

The thing that annoys me most about Emma Watson in the Beauty and The Beast, is that they literally cast Broadway Legends alongside her to play minor characters while she gets to give us absolutely nothing the entire time. Audra McDonald literally won SIX Tony Awards and she’s a wardrobe.

[@LevonBlueoak]

yeah. as I've said on other comments, Emma is a great actress, but holy crap, there was some severe bias in the casting.

[@snakes7303]

Right?? These people are AMAZING. What the hell ??...theyre furniture?

[@ilmanmufiydhaagustadia_1346]

Emma can't act in that movie she's unbelievably sucks

[@itsuniquer4905]

Emma was pretty good in the Harry Potter movies though. She just doesn’t fin in beauty and the beast

[@ilmanmufiydhaagustadia_1346]

@@itsuniquer4905 even hermione is made like a mary sue when emma plays her 😧😧😧

[@woah5159]

i just realised that we could possibly have a rapping genie but we didn’t and i’m really salty about that

[@darthhauler9947]

My name is Kazaam I got the whole plan So listen to the man 'Cause I'm the sultan of sand

[@radbug]

DANMIT. now im salty too

[@Tsukiru]

That sample he played sounded amazing and I wished it was advertised more

[@goodhunter9791]

Same. That actually sounds amazing the more I think about it. And more I think about it, the more disappointed in Disney I become.

[@TheEmbessyNetwork]

Just shows how Disney just wanted to cash in on nostalgia while not being sure enough to put new ideas and twists in the forefront.

[@ilyhannna]

14:06 about the robin williams/will smith point: i think the issue is that audiences will complain no matter what route disney goes for in these remakes. if you have will smith sing the exact same way as robin williams, people will say it’s a bad copy. if you have smith perform the reworked version in the credits, people would say it’s too different. you can even see this in the entire remakes themselves. if you make a word for word copy, it sucks (i.e. the lion king), but if you change any detail from the originals, people won’t like the change. the solution to all this: stop with the remakes

[@Spearca]

If you're going to do a remake, it should be different. Of course some people will prefer the original, and the original will still be there for them. At least the choice (either way) would be meaningful.

[@cesar6447]

Saying that the lion king remake is a "word for word" adaptation is like saying that singing is reading out loud the lyrics, it may look the same, but it's no where near

[@snakewithapen5489]

I personally think Will Smith's performance was fine. It wasn't the same as Williams' at all, but i respect that honestly, i think he did good by not trying to be a complete copy. Of course people have nostalgia for the original, but Smith did decent on his own, people will complain regardless. But i agree the remakes need to be stopped lol

[@valorianknight8346]

I can't wait for sideways to to do a review analysis on the Little Mermaid 2023 remake soundtrack and his reaction to the HORRIBLE "Scuttlebutt".

[@regann7227]

"Accurate Asian Representation" W h e e z e

[@yucol5661]

I know, I know. But it didn’t keep Disney from making money and letting the Chinese communist party edit the script. even tough three other Mulan movies where released the same year in china.

[@crazysmith5408]

@@yucol5661 Mulan 2020 made $70 million at the box office, but the budget was $200 million. Mulan wasn't able to earn its money back, which makes it a colossal failure.

[@johngalt5166]

The CCP: Money?

[@moonlightyong1924]

I'm Chinese and I was so confused about the terminology used in the live action movie (like wtf is chi, only old people do that sort of stuff lmao)

[@reidate7274]

@@yucol5661 Dude, I wish you can read Chinese so see how the film TANKED in China, every Chinese reviewer, professional or not, HATED the production.

[@scarymonsterzz]

Literally don’t understand parents who grew up with these movies showing them to their kids. Just show them the original movies???

[@CyberneticCupcake2]

If they can excavate them from _the Disney Vault_ In all seriousness, it's consumerism more than nostalgia that drives these parents, methinks.

[@rbarajas86]

No! Show them these only! Never the originals! The originals are all great but it's time for a new renaissance ffs! Disney has shown they never understood their luck in being able to cash in on the genius of their staff. It's time to move. tf. on. 🤔 Or not it's your life 🤷🏽‍♂️🤣✌🏼 *corrected to make sense😅😂

[@FBI-dr4bk]

@@rbarajas86 A new renaissance? These remakes are uninspired piles of hot trash. Instead of trying to suspend the audience's disbelief, Disney tries to drown it instead. Be honest and admit the only reason these movies do well, is because they're preying on the nostalgia of their clearly superior predecessors.

[@beccag2758]

In my opinion, _some_ of the live action remakes are equal or better than the OG (I'm thinking Cinderella and and Jungle Book) _BUT_ still should see OG version before the live action. It's like reading the book before the movie.

[@spookymia8135]

I think part of it is the difference between seeing a movie at home, and seeing it in the theater. There's just a different energy when you go to the theater to see a film, and you can't recreate it. Unfortunately, not a lot of places are allowed to show classic Disney, so if they want that theater experience(tm), they have to see the new movies.

[@michaelspock]

I gave a presentation on Howard Ashman as part of a theatre appreciation class I took in college that moved my classmates to tears. As an HIV+ person, it touched me that you focused on his contributions so beautifully. Thank you!

[@wishingonthemoon1]

I think a lot of the lackluster vocal performances are due to making the music “accessible” to modern audiences, which I hate. Like in La La Land, when Emma Stone is basically yelling her song (a great song, for sure yes), when she is a Broadway singer and can sing way better than the “speak singing” that’s popular, like in Beauty and the Beast, or the new Ariel for some reason riffing the music for Part of your World to make it more like pop music.

[@dionysusfilms165]

THEY CUT BE PREPARED FROM THE LION KING? DISHONOR ON THEM! DISHONOR ON THEIR FAMILIES! DISHONOR ON THEIR COW!

[@Bast-hs5sz]

i didn't watch the new lion king yet thank you for convincing me to never

[@dionysusfilms165]

@@Bast-hs5sz glad to do so

[@-L.S]

"Nazis bad" is too political for Disney these days

[@TheTwistDrink]

When I watch the Lion King remake I couldnt BELIEVE THEY DID THAT OML

[@seekertosecrets]

But It wasn't cut. It was altered. They should have might as well cut it.

[@lillianalicejun]

“i make money to make films, i don’t make films to make money” - Walt kinda sad how it’s the reverse now

[@marigen1257]

Lillian K so at this point his company is going against everything he stood for and wanted to do with the company

[@jonnnebbe5978]

Lillian K wow that’s really sad.

[@agl8689]

Oh even Walt was in it for the big bucks. From the moment he started making films he was a salesman, and used what he had learned from his work in advertising to make sure Disney was alll about the selling. At the beginning he was so protective of his brand he didn’t even credit the 1000+ animators that worked on snow white

[@theamaeve8175]

Nah dude Walt basically created our current copyright laws that have caused a scenario where none of the film's he made are available in the public domain. If these same laws existed before Walt, he would not have been able to make Pinocchio or Alice In Wonderland, and several other films.

[@Arachnes_Corner]

“We have no obligation to make Art. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make a statement. But to make money, it is often important to make history, art, a statement, or all three.” -Michael Eisner, 1981

[@nicoleh3703]

I personally wish they'd used the man who played Genie in the Broadway production for the movie as well. Even without the CGI, he gave a brilliant performance and I'm so glad I was able to see him onstage!

[@maddielopez8625]

I love your voice. You’re like an appropriately intense MatPat.

[@TyHamlet]

Disney is actually the largest drug dealer. They have been dealing in nostalgia from the very beginning.

[@emmamiller5600]

You made me laugh 😂😂😂

[@daisyp3748]

HA!

[@zoinksscoob6523]

prolly not nostalgia, just a lack of creativity since the good men have left this shitty company

[@aur9035]

I am very _(un)_ ashamed to admit, that i have taken part in it.

[@MissPopuri]

As the Nickelback song goes, “Everybody’s got a drug dealer on speed dial...hey hey, I wanna be a rock star.” Who knew Chad Kroeger would make a great Disney prince?

[@unwritten_zephyr]

I haven’t seen the new Lion King, but it can’t be THAT bad. “They cut Be Prepared.” THEY *WHAT?*

[@FaithMurri]

I THOUGHT THE SAME THING!! WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS????

[@deepwaterlife48]

@@FaithMurri be prepared is in the film. but its a mumbled half chant, half military cadence. i love the actor. fuck that version though.

[@TheOldOwl8]

@@FaithMurri Pretty much everyone that was a fan of the first movie was, they just got shouted down and called things like, racist, nazi, misogynist, etc. The whole thing was cut because of the way the animators took cues from old films of the big propaganda parades the germans had in WW2 to really drive home the point that the bad guys in the movie were shockingly enough...Villains. So instead we get this dumpster fire of a remake when we should have told the woke crowd to go suck start shotgun.

[@legrandliseurtri7495]

@@avapayne6258 It's one minute long instead of 3 minutes. That's a huge difference.

[@thespectaculargamernerd8114]

@@legrandliseurtri7495 I personally enjoy both versions. Original has more flair but the remake works like a rousing speech. Scar couldn't really call the hyenas stupid to their faces.

[@Illogical.]

I've heard something about her voice being partially recorded on set and partially in a sound studio per her request, and that the editors just took the parts that sounded the best from each and stitched them together.

[@avajones6835]

“Be Prepared” was my childhood’s first introduction to a villain like Scar. Like, he’s flamboyant and fun but also evil as heck, and the song reflected both sides of the character exceptionally well in a way I couldn’t verbalize but loved anyway. Honestly, the idea of a new take on the song, or even the same take with updated visuals was the main reason I even wanted to see the live action remake in the first place! I was so excited and my imagination went wild with how they could interpret the song into epic “live-action” and when I saw it… I almost walked out of the theater… it was painfully disappointing. I’m still recovering from that rollercoaster of emotions moving from “oh wow, the songs about to start!” to “oh… okay, it’s different but that’s fine it’ll make up for it in the long run I’m sure,” to “wait, why’d they cut that part out? Is this supposed to be threatening instead of fun?!” to “wait is it over? Aw, come on, that last note wasn’t even sang very well!” Not to be crude, but the why I’d hyped myself up for the number compared to its actual execution gave me the musical theater kid equivalent of blue b@lls.

[@Crowd7]

Yeah I was pissed when Will Smith didn’t have a rap version of “Friend Like Me” and then discovered he in fact DID have a rap version of it and they just decided to not use it?!

[@baum6721]

It's way too ethnic for Disney. There would have been Karens from coast to coast covering their kids ears and posting on Facebook. The song is better than the one in the movie. It just would've upset their target audience.

[@jenster29]

@@baum6721 not just that but those movies are shown around the world and rap isn't all that in other countries. They have to appeal to the majority. And kids. That's their audience. Not rap fans

[@meandtheboys8486]

i actually listened to the rap version and it was way better

[@BionicTenshi96]

Being honest i expected them to bring a Fresh Prince of Bel Air vibe to Will's genie to offer a fresh reinterpretation of the character and use the talents which Smith is known for...

[@argenteus8314]

They're trying to manufacture nostalgia, what's actually "good" doesn't matter to them. If they used the rap version, it would have interfered with their ability to make racists and out of touch old geezers nostalgic.

[@thisnigerianlovesdrinkingg4522]

“We don't make movies to make money, we make money to make more movies.” - *Walt Disney* “We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make a statement. But to make money, it is often important to make history, to make art, or to make some significant statement.” - *Michael Eisner* The difference between these two quotes represent the very reason why today’s Disney is the way it is :(

[@austinghost1458]

Finally someone pointed this out. Thank you

[@strugglingcollegestudent]

I never knew they said that. Disney is such a scam nowdays

[@golazo1266]

Its sad that Walt Disney had a huge vision for the people and to turned into a money hungry company 😔

[@mariadestinyjoy]

@@golazo1266 "Love of Money is the root of all evil." Not to say that Disney is evil, just that their money hungry motivations will lead to a bad outcome.

[@dizzyandkoko]

The sadness part about this is the fact that while, for at least Snow White, Disney had live actors dress up as the characters and act out the scenes for the animators to reference because he wanted it to be the best it can be and wouldn't take anything else but the best.

[@lovesgibson]

With Emma Belle, I think they genuinely thought that artificial perfect sounding pop music voice sounded better.

[@JohnAndJohner]

I miss you Sideways. Not that you owe us anything, but if you read this for some accursed reason, know that you're missed.

[@KingOfGaymes]

No wonder the Gaston song in the remake was my favorite They’re ACTUALLY SINGING

[@fructosecornsyrup5759]

News at 10: The Pharaoh's favorite Disney song is a villain song. Experts remain perplexed.

[@U1TR4F0RCE]

I feel a bit bad for disliking it, though at the end of the day I think it's partially because by trying to have Gaston not be as ridiculous as he is in the original he loses a lot of what worked as a villain. Having someone who can do a really low voice or someone who rather then looking fit was a body builder who looks ridiculous with everyone else wearing clothing that's meant to look like a pre-industrial Europe I think would make things a lot funnier/more enjoyable.

[@ghostlykelp]

The beasts new song was my favourite!

[@lilykoudmani3879]

oh hey yugi, how's dueling going?

[@MissIndipendant98]

I think the knots in my back actually melted away hearing Luke Evans sing 😍

[@jimluebke3869]

The worst part of these live-action remakes is, a lot of REALLY talented singers are no longer going to be able to get the work their talents deserve, if they don't have the right look.

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

You know the funny thing, a lot of fans will also be angry if they don't look like the original.

[@beep3242]

@@kimberleywilliams7802 I think it has to be a mix of both. Obviously it would be bad to have a non redhead Ariel, a non blonde Rapunzel, or a super skinny Ursula. You've gotta have a mix of keeping the most visually recognizable traits of the character and having actual talent. I suppose someone would still be pissed in the end

[@sebastianaguilar9938]

@@beep3242 So long as Beyonce's pet project (her name is on the tip of my tongue, I just can't think of it right this second! but what always stuck out to me most about Ariel's live-action actress is that she is directly promoted by Beyonce, hence my calling her 'Beyonce's little pet') doesn't butcher the reprise of Part of Your World, I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt and withhold judgment until clips are released... after all, I did enjoy the ladies who played young and older Ursula in Once Upon a Time. (in that live-action show, Ursula's backstory is ripped right from Ariel minus any love interest and temporarily being 'evil till she got her singing voice back'. both girls did a great job on the vocalize from the part of your world reprise that occurred when Ursula's stolen singing voice is finally returned.

[@ttintagel]

I don't understand why they don't just dub the singing voices like they did in the old days. Marni Nixon never had to look like the character; she just had to get the vocal performance right. It's a total win-win, and I don't get why they don't consider it an option.

[@sophie-nx5hf]

I mean it makes sense tho right? A lot of directors have a vision for each role and if someone doesn’t fit that vision it’ll be a problem for the director to truly carry out his vision for the movie/show

[@k0dym0dyw0dy]

4:53 I DID NOT KNOW DANIEL RADCLIFFE COULD SING THAT WELL!?!? HOLY SHIT

[@acorneroftheinternet4179]

God damn, im not a rap person but i liked that bit of Smith's end credits version of Friend Like Me, so i went to actually listen to it and WOW, you were not kidding about him being in his element there! Im still not the hugest fan of the genere but i do appretiate it so much more than his Williams impression

[@cessena]

I also don't know why Disney doesn't hire singers for actors who can't sing? This used to be incredibly common and could be easily done. The autotune is brutal.

[@westzed23]

Actually there was a time when producers kept very quiet about using singers doing the actors' musical numbers. When it leaked out that Audrey Hepburn did not do her own singing in My Fair Lady, there was a backlash. Why couldn't they use Julie Andrews who had the part on Broadway instead. Hepburn actually sang, but they replaced her voice. There were other times too, like when Deborah Kerr in The King of Siam. It was a big secret. This also happened when it leaked out that Irene Cara did not do all her own dancing in Flashdance.

[@helenwalter6830]

@@westzed23 At least mention Marni Nixon- and it's not as though people have stopped dubbing over actresses, they did it in Greatest Showman. It wasn't so much the dub that caused the outcry about my fair lady, but the fact Julie Andrews was snubbed and then they used Marni to be Audrey Hepburn's singing voice. It ended up being cruel for all three women involved, but none of them had hard feelings towards each other. That was not a special situation either. When Deborah Kerr found out her voice had been all but taken out of the final cut she was furious because she had worked so hard and thought she had made her voice picture ready. Dubbing is not great for those involved- but it doesn't seem garter much backlash besides more special situations. I would rather they autotune at that point- unless they can find someone who is as good as imitating voices as Marni Nixon and the actor is okay with it.

[@westzed23]

@Elizabeth Barner I totally agree. I remember when this came out, and I wanted to show how much people were upset about the dubbing at the time. People felt lied to. Marni Nixon was a huge secret to most people. If studios had been more honest, I don't think it would have been so upsetting. Yes, today they do dubbing, but it usually is known. At the time, were we naive? Perhaps, but we knew of stunt doubles and some dubbing, it just seemed that the big studios were trying to con everyone. And yes the actresses were upset, and rightly so. Sorry. The King and I.

[@helenwalter6830]

@@westzed23 yeah

[@EspeonMistress00]

Actually that's what most Indian movies do and it works for them so nicely.

[@ellis1034]

It's almost like they're just doing this for the money..

[@strawberryice9264]

Damn that’s a great theory

[@luisagf1385]

Dude, that couldn't be true, Disney is the most ethical company ever! **wink**

[@belladog6546]

Wow, that would be just HORRIBLE, wouldn't it?

[@elenafiderio9344]

oh my gosh really I never knew

[@tristanhartup4936]

No shit.

[@specs6637]

I miss you dude, your videos were so entertaining. I hope your doing well in whatever path you have taken in life

[@nintony2994]

I like how Disney can get the best people in the business and these films are still underwhelming in the final product

[@Kolateak_]

Don't you dare smack talk Emperor's New Groove, that movie is sacred

[@commandercaptain4664]

Translation: "Squeakers squeakers..."

[@ichmageisify]

Yeah, it has always been one of my favourites. But I didn't like singing in movies when I was a kid, so maybe that's why I love The Emperor's New Groove so much.

[@kneelessnightcat9164]

@@ichmageisify I loved musical movies as a kid. I still loved Emperor's New Groove. It's just a funny, great, and well made movie.

[@Lu-be7rk]

and lilo & stitch. i know theres rumors for a remake but i really really want them to leave lilo & stitch alone

[@falcore91]

What this guy said.

[@ChickenTenders]

The WORST part is that Nala actually did have a solo called "Shadowland" from the broadway musical, but they didn't have Beyonce sing it! :/

[@lillybet1]

Shadowland is absolutely stunning!

[@garrettcarter5622]

Well obviously it's because they knew better than some silly play that won EVERY TONY EVER.

[@Maiku02195]

One of my favorite songs ever and I will never stop being angry that they didn’t include it

[@supme7558]

Why were they wanna pay her more money?

[@Tikachu]

@@supme7558 they were already paying her all the money? So like why not make sure they make back a lot of their own

[@ericelson1781]

I think calling One Jump Ahead the “I Want” song from Aladdin is a stretch. The animated Aladdin effectively doesn’t have an “I want” song because the one it was supposed to have, Proud of your Boy, was cut from the movie.

[@kiryn5977]

I'd argue that Aladdin's I Want song in the movie is "One Jump Ahead Reprise". Imo, it's kinda done similarly to Beauty and the Beast with the versions of the song "Belle". Both it and "One Jump Ahead" are more introductory songs for the characters/world, and then the reprises of "Belle" and "One Jump Ahead" delve more specifically into the desires of the characters.

[@beawhite4516]

When watching the live action films (Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast) the main thing that stuck out for me was that everyone sounded so depressed when they were singing. You really can tell the difference when someone is smiling and vocalising. I think that's why for me they didn't sound as good as some older, similar type live action films (Cinderella 1997 and Once Upon a Mattress). I also remember the singing voice for Jasmine (animated) in the behind the scenes saying that she wanted to sound happy so she was just smiling the whole time.

[@genevievem6425]

at least they haven’t tried to do a live action version of Cars, that would just be terrifying to watch

[@animateddepression]

Starlight Express. It will end up something like that.

[@KazuhaEien]

DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS

[@maryloubisou]

I genuinely thought at first that was a spelling error and you meant to say cats which makes the joke even 10 times better

[@sameerhafeez7029]

Mary Lou me too !😜

[@extraextra8021]

It'd be a good horror flick

[@Sarklaser]

Spent the entirety of Aladdin going "PLEASE just let him RAP", glad it wasn't just me. At least he got to in the credits.

[@Buriedwithdrawingpad]

Wasn't one of the main points of the massive outcry against Will Smith being the genie 'What's he gonna do, rap the songs instead?' Feel like that version in the credits hints they might of been scared off using it

[@sofakingimmature]

@@Buriedwithdrawingpad I thought it was more that people were criticising his singing voice. Will Smith has a barely passable singing voice and no one believed he could make the songs as bouncy and playful as Robin Williams. The 'will he rap?" was more a question since that was the only way Will Smith has been able to properly emote musically. And the end credits actually prove that assessment was as correct.

[@katejay9786]

It's dumb! It's just so dumb. What is more suited to a reinterp of the Genie than rap? Everything about Will Smith rapping as the Genie is perfect. It's nostalgic and referential, wholesome, captures the self-aware showboating and most importantly, the element of trolling around with words. What is more suitable for rapid-fire, reference-dropping verbal trolling around than rap?? And the more you think on it, Will Smith BEING WILL SMITH is honestly the only way to pull it off respectfully. If the creators were too cowardly to step up and own that... Dishonor on them, dishonor on their cow, dishonor on their cow's entire ancestral tree

[@tlw1950]

I’m proud to say I’ve never seen a Disney live action remake....and I don’t intend to. The originals are all I need...

[@sujal4078]

That's a shame because Cinderella is genuinely brilliant. And perhaps the only great remake.

[@tlw1950]

You can keep ‘em, Sujal. From the little I’ve seen on it, it didn’t impress me.

[@IronheartvsMiles]

sad for you, some are great

[@tlw1950]

Don’t be sad for me, hunty, the originals make me VERY happy! To each his own, right, Iron?

[@RaidenTheRipper88]

​@@IronheartvsMiles none are good

[@rossini138]

I recently played in a stage version of Beauty and The Beast and accidentally got very familiar. After seeing it for the first time I can’t get over the songs they wrote for the live action film instead. “If I can’t love her” is such a good song. Also “Me” which is sung by Gaston is referenced in Belle and would have been so easy to drop in. They even used “Home” as incidental music at one point.

[@JLMac322]

Don't be silly, Apollo doesn't just throw a fireball at you and give you musical abilities. You obviously have to sacrifice a cow to him first.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

Underrated coment XD

[@millyrobinson5757]

@@despinasgarden.4100 ABSOLUTELY

[@laszo3581]

i sacrificed a lamb and the sacrilegious musicans who dont have real talent

[@raspberrycrowns9494]

Julie Andrews must've sacrificed a herd

[@maxii6254]

Ah shit. Is a pig enough? Already sacrificed my cow for game luck

[@haydenb123]

When it comes to Bella’s pitch correction and auto-tuning you could say, “There’s something there that simply wasn’t there before.”

[@4EverATVAddict]

They also got a professional singer who can mimic voices to dub over lots of Emma Watson's singing. They also auto-tuned her voice, but most of it isn't even her singing but someone who tried to sing like her, but better.

[@selty]

@@4EverATVAddict i literally said to myself after seeing the movie "why didnt they hire a ghost singer if she couldnt sing?" Wtfffff Reminds me of my Fair Lady with Audrey Hepburn

[@4EverATVAddict]

@@selty Worse, they got in a professional singer to sing over it and that couldn't even save it. They tried to mix the ghost singer and some of Emma's more 'talkie' vocals but it all just came out wrong and the post production was super rushed, which is why even the ghost singer couldn't save the film.

[@davincent98]

Don't you mean, "Hermione"?

[@bukkytherybta6052]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@George_M_]

Actors can sing well with enough prep. Disney was obviously too cheap to pay Watson for that. "We'll just fix it in post!"

[@SlamBolts]

7:40 I get that with Jump Up, Superstar! You can hear Kate Higgins smiling and having fun with the performance

[@AustinBrouillard]

Let's hope they don't remake hunchback of Notre Dame. I don't want to see them ruin hellfire edit: yes guys I have seen the musical and I loved it

[@canvas_125]

Prucked xox they probably wouldn’t ruin it. They’d maybe CUT it off completely like the massacred “Be Prepared.”

[@gh0stgus56]

Disney doesn't have the balls to make movies like that anymore (you know, actual good shit) they're too scared of offending someone rather than making art like they used too. They got neutered.

[@ninjawhippetproductions7411]

Oh, they're remaking it alright - Josh Gad's playing Quasimodo

[@AustinBrouillard]

@@ninjawhippetproductions7411 please no

[@ezelfrancisco1349]

I would've like it if they did what the stage version did: actually portray the talking gargoyles as imaginary, or add in more elements from the book.

[@RyanGill86]

"People will spend money because it reminds them of something good." YES. Agree 100%. When I was sitting in the movie theater in January 2014, watching dwarves float down a lazy river in beer barrels, I remember thinking, "I wish I were at home right now watching The Two Towers".

[@christopherbrown7230]

Calling that remake of the lion king “live action” is a travesty… every single frame was cgi

[@KJ-je9pm]

Remember when musicals actually casted people who can sing?

[@bigred8432]

Cast the word is CAST

[@erazn9077]

Ian Smith Actually cast people? What? That doesn’t even make sense since _casted_ is a real word. Edit: Wait are you trying to say that they still do?

[@bigred8432]

@@erazn9077 The only time the word casted is used, is when talking about a vote, in the past sense. You wouldn't say a fisherman casted a line, that someone casted a die and you do not use casted in terms of casting actors. The word is cast. The sentence should read 'Remember when musicals actually cast people who could sing?' Using the word can instead of could is also incorrect.

[@GiveMeTheRice]

The problem is not the actors. That's actually the entire first point of this video. Did you watch the video?

[@sharpaycutie2]

Ughhhh...dont remind me.💔

[@Claire-bz8mq]

speaking of Emma Watson and standards for women, the historical fashion community hates that movie too. Apparently Emma Watson said she won’t wear a corset in the movie, the thing is, corsets didn’t exist yet. Women wore stays, which provided back and breast support. Even actual corsets weren’t that bad. If an actor says that they couldn’t breath in a corset it’s because the corset wasn’t made properly or wasn’t made to fit the actress. And the yellow dress.... OHH THE DRESS I know the original dress wasn’t accurate but it was still pretty, the new dress has no silhouette, and it’s just so floppy Gosh Gad and Luke Evans are the best part of the movie

[@doctorwholover1012]

I was looking for someone else as mad about the corset thing lol, and my god, the new dress just looks like a prom dress covered in tissue tiers like a cheap doll 😶

[@despinasgarden.4100]

Exactly! God, the dress looked like a cheap prom dress more than a princess dress, and HER WEDDING DRESS! it looked so ugly and out of place...

[@devilsadvocate4958]

The first time i watch the movie i was like "damn thats some ugly dress, how can they do that? I thought it was magical"

[@dawn8525]

Stays are like bras back in the day. Imagine going commando under a gown😒 that’s delusional

[@krystelhardesty9960]

Something that I found funny about the movie and its clothing, was that everyone was in pretty historically accurate clothing except Bell. I mean what the hell was up with that.

[@jjj7790]

Thing this video reminded me of the whole thing about the original songs is that they were written for their actors. “Be Prepared” is one of the most memorable villain songs, but also it isn’t a very technically demanding song. People have described it before as Jeremy Irons rapping. It’s very light on melody. Same with another song “Hellfire” in Hunchback of Notre Dame. It’s in every top 10 Villain songs lists, and it’s probably the least difficult song in the film. Compared to Tom Hulce’s Quasimodo going high note sicko mode with Out There and Heaven’s Light, Tony Jay’s Judge Frollo seems to have a easy time. As far as I know, Jeremy Irons and Tony Jay aren’t singers (and Tom Hulce is). The songs were written for them to sing in-character at a comfortable range. And they sound great. So you have the Beauty and The Beast, which is a Disney film with a cast they purposefully loaded with renown Broadway stars doing both the singing and dialogue. All of the songs were originally written for *Broadway stars.* They bring in Emma Watson to do a Broadway singer’s role and do zero adjustments to the songs for the actor’s range. Instead they doctor the performance until it’s Broadway range. And it sounds terrible. It’s a sign these people just have no idea how music or art works.

[@pauldurando9466]

How badass would it have been if they had kept the music in Mulan and she fucking belts a reprise of Reflection on the front lines of battle while seeing her reflection in her shield a la Theseus.

[@GeekInSequins]

Beauty and the Beast remake: Belle's vocals done by Hatsune Miku.

[@annaferns1840]

Lmaooo even she could do better

[@GeekInSequins]

@@annaferns1840 And probably sound less artificial.

[@KazuhaEien]

I loved to call the Beauty and the Beast remake songs as "BATB but they are sung by badly tuned Vocaloids".

[@futuremoonlight12]

That’s an insult to Miku and as a Vocaloid fan I kind of find this offensive.

[@theoutlawprince1304]

By Defoko, a non tuned Defoko

[@tandnmom100]

"Accurate and healthy Asian representation" *ONE YEAR LATER* ...well that comment aged like milk. (edited because the original comment said "aged like cheese", which I have been informed is a bad analogy.)

[@kimmyseon46]

So it became stinky but delicious

[@mashedpotetoo]

@@kimmyseon46 i am now thinking about plagg from miraculous ladybug

[@DaneHawthorne1313]

Like a fine milk.

[@shotq8070]

Ha!

[@sofiateylan291]

Im sorry im a bit dumb, can someone explain the situation to me

[@SilverNoxCrystallis]

Dan Stevens also performs on Broadway and he was absolutory insane in My Fair Lady. (For some reason I can't find anything about him being in it online, but I was lucky to attend in 2019 and see him on stage and his name in the Playbill) He also has a multitude of other broadway experience. Why the way they tuned the life out of him is such a mystery to me because he's severely talented

[@11Argetlam11]

Not music but they also cut the Rafiki "the past can hurt but you can learn from it" moment which is the single most important turning point in the story in lion king.

[@eveinglis9770]

the second you went "part un: beauty and the beast" with the shitty flute in the background, I knew it was going to be a good video

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

That wasn't a flute. That was a recorder. And that's even better.

[@tip2gaable]

At that moment, I became a subscriber.😂😂😂

[@mmmirei]

elementary school recorder, but yeah I agree lol

[@chaaaargh]

the recorder in the background gave me ptsd from middle school music class

[@a.n4031]

That recorder is the most insufferable thing to ever grace my ears. I almost disliked the video for that alone

[@alexanicoley1]

I feel like Watson was hired because she boosts nostalgia. A large amount of people have nostalgia for the Harry Potter series as well as beauty and the beast, she basically sells the concept and looks similar enough to belle to be considered type casting

[@KazuhaEien]

That would make sence.

[@Hungarycloud]

@The Meaning is Always Vague Wow pretty harsh.

[@mordeliamoonblossom]

@The Meaning is Always Vague that's rude to say

[@alyssabeaulieu]

True but her acting performance ooofff

[@kiahhicks2366]

I agree I'm not a huge fan of HP (sorry not sorry), but her acting as Belle was ok. It was really hard for me to get into the movie. Everything just felt so forced. I think they tethered her to their idea and concept of Belle more than they did Will Smith and Geenie (sp?). Probably bc Will Smith is mostly going to do what he wants, but that's the whole issue is all the Disney stuff play it safe so often and I just feel disappointed each time. I'm really hoping Mulan is better. I think that if they get away from the musicals it'll help alleviate that fakeness and forced-ness these other ones have had (fingers crossed). and ya I was originally bummed when I saw there was no music, but then I remembered how (1) I didn't really like most of the music they did in the other remakes and (2) I didn't like the extra songs, so I was pretty relieved.

[@Soggy_Speggetti]

the Robin Williams genie and honestly all of his roles are irreplaceable and and its just impossible to recreate they really should have just let Will Smith be himself because he really stood no chance

[@johnathanbanner3841]

Man I really love the videos this channel makes, I hope that Sideways makes a return/is okay.

[@TalysAlankil]

"There was no reason not to put [Will Smith's take on Friend Like Me] in the film!" except, you know, disney being afraid to do ANYTHING new with the live action remakes, which are designed to appeal solely to nostalgia.

[@leonardovergara5620]

Appeal to nostalgia... Like mossy bread has appeal as food.

[@sinquiz5730]

But “be prepared” was nostalgic and that wasnt in Lion King

[@willforrest-king]

But that nostalgia thing is so ridiculous, you already succeeded in getting them into the theatre what are they gonna do like " uh uh... that's original comeon kids we are getting out of here... stupid Will Smith being different."

[@parkchimmin7913]

They’re literally just trying to capitalize on people’s nostalgia

[@meh201]

i agree but i kinda see why they dont since people already complain so much any time they change anything from the originals