You've absolutely done my boys Argel Tal and the Gal Vorbak dirty here 😂
@hirmetrium17 ай бұрын
Clearly not 30k fans; very disappointing
@FormerlyChucks1127 ай бұрын
And of course the Alpha Legion are completely overlooked (just as they planned).
@mini_acrylics7 ай бұрын
I like Word Bearers for the pure irony that they created the foundation of the current Imperial Ecclesiarchy
@fenris78uk7 ай бұрын
Emperor's Children represent! Re Word Bearer's - the most influential legion in Warhammer 30/40k, and great colour scheme.
@ryanharrison42017 ай бұрын
the reaction that Word Bearers get based on their lore and characters shows they are solid mid-tier if not higher. They are the best from a modelling perspective too, loads of gifts from chaos and recent converts to heresy era marines. ( I play Iron warriors so I'm dull and sad and angry about it).
@bradt54147 ай бұрын
I love the "James in fact, did not finish the Kroot Shaper" in the background immediately after he said he finished it. Hilarious
@RequiemWraith7 ай бұрын
Alpha Legion for Tier S!
@RequiemWraith7 ай бұрын
Got to laugh "We'll be doing these from a painting POV, not a lore POV" 30 minutes later: "ANYTHING THAT INCLUDES EREBUS CAN GET IN THE BIN!!!!! BOTTOM TIER!!" Hmmmmm, kinda sounds like you're doing that from the lore and not the painting there 😉 🤣🤣
@michaelhopcroft81157 ай бұрын
I used to hate word bearers like James, but now I think they are so interesting, If I ever did a space marine army it would be a word bearer army!
@RosarioAFK7 ай бұрын
The fleshy color Emperor's Children warband is The Flawless Host!
@mooresimon25867 ай бұрын
Theres no heresy without the Word Bearers, Argel Tal, Erebus some of the best characters written.
@Character_Building897 ай бұрын
Lorgar loves you James. Embrace him.
@martynjones39787 ай бұрын
So where does the Alpha Legion fit in ??? You only mentioned 8 traitors!! 🤔😊
@MTGPhlogisten7 ай бұрын
I was listening to this on Apple podcast and not on KZbin but when James said he finished the Kroot Shaper I immediately switched to KZbin so I could see it… low and behold…
@UntiltedName7 ай бұрын
For Iron Warriors you have to rank them lower than they should be so that all their fans get perturbed by it and want to argue about the placement.
@zakuworks0006 ай бұрын
Night Lords have snuff films playing on their armour. That’s one of the most freaky things in space marine lore and I love it.
@rich250343287 ай бұрын
Alpha legion ?
@ZanderJesusiaDayАй бұрын
Shhhhhhh
@erikholst47307 ай бұрын
Letsss gooo Alpha legion!!!!
@alexanderabramov27197 ай бұрын
For SM Part 2 I'd do at least all Forge World Chapters that had rules/special characters in previous editions, because A) it's not a lot of lore to research but what is there is interesting; B) they're some of the more known ones like Raptors and Minotaurs so they'll be relevant to a bunch more people than just picking successors at random; C) They deserve to be remembered and with FW campaign books gone they might start fading away soon; D) I collect Star Phantoms. P.S. I use transfers I'm not Michelangelo
@voidwraithprime85217 ай бұрын
TS look S tier, but to paint them...*screams into a pillow*...D tier.
@AncientWyrm17757 ай бұрын
My fully painted TSons army that took me 5 years is going in S tier. 🧙🏻♂️ Also, they don't take more Daemons than any other legion in the game. Tzaangors are not daemons, they are mutants.
@lostit4627 ай бұрын
Word Bearers are top tier Villians
@Jamesotronart7 ай бұрын
The amount of time it took me to choose a colour scheme for my second edition Chaos Space Marines back in the day, especially with those amazing photos of Night Lords Terminators in the codex.
@facelift.7 ай бұрын
They said judging from a painting perspective until they got to Word Bearers where they barely even mentioned what color they were. I understand that not everyone likes my favorite legion as much as I do, but to just label them as boring, and put them at the bottom because of one character, with no regard for their style, and scheme just rubs me the wrong way.
@F_N_Inquisitor7 ай бұрын
Word Bearers S-tier, all day
@golgoroth1017 ай бұрын
You could have saved yourself some trouble with Night Lords and trying to explain Curze. He was 40k Batman, and Nostramo was Planet-Gotham. Love the Ride the Lightning comment though, I too had never pieced those together despite loving both for decades!
@Winter-Nine7 ай бұрын
Can't remember if they did feature, but feel like Lamenters are worth a mention in part 2!
@Gnal007 ай бұрын
Liked as soon as James dumps on the Word Bearers ;)
@TheGenerator4117 ай бұрын
on the Black legion. you can also have a few bits in the old SoH green to show some of the really old veterans off. I too trimmed some of my berzerkers with some black trims and other areas to signify they CAN be a part of the hounds of abby D. Also ya the World Eaters are just my favorite...lore wise and everything. love to hear you guys appreciate them too and cant wait to see some of my models come home from you guys :)
@adamdoughty8137 ай бұрын
Flesh colours on emperors children: Back in the day some metal sculpts had marines with studded gloves and riding chaps (as did the original keeper of secrets) many people would paint these up as flayed human skin.
@karleenbergkotte23507 ай бұрын
Another great podcast, looking forward to going on your painting course in August
@polstierna42517 ай бұрын
You guys have called both my faves boring 😂 Iron Hands and Word Bearers. Guess I’m dull 😂
@jpkimble94797 ай бұрын
Don't worry Joe I thought he ment an actual rhino aswel so ur not alone there 😊
@nazgulHunter147 ай бұрын
Well I was going to use y’all for my word bearers army but I’ll take them elsewhere. Feels like I would get an intentionally shoddy job with yall based on this.
@Vulkanlives887 ай бұрын
Haha, how old are you?
@FacesNBases7 ай бұрын
Great show chaps. Really like the personal takes on what's cool for each of you and background from Loremaster James. I'm really feeling the draw to Word Bearers now just for the pure disdain they seem to have in the general hobby space! They're basically the naughty child's choice 😅 Plus, like Black Legion, you can just use standard CSM minis but have the option for kitbashing or decorative paint jobs. As for tier lists moving forwards I reckon a list of popular chapters/legions that don't have current specific miniatures in 40k (but may have had in the past or in other games). Such as Alpha Legion, Legion of the Damned, Howling Griffons, Tome Keepers etc. Top show. Definitely S Tier 👍
@WITNESSMEOFFICIAL7 ай бұрын
Awesome episode again lads!
@Warhammerwatson7 ай бұрын
I’m with Joe, Death Guard are definitely S tier.
@Nightss7 ай бұрын
Saying that Night Lords is Raven Guards' aesthetic but cooler, is putting words to some of my darker thoughts while painting sneaky beakies, and I don't like it one bit
@MrLeesaunders7 ай бұрын
hi guys im new to warhammer only painted a handful of models on my last couple im finding the paint is rubbing off . i do use citadel undercoat could it be because i dont wear gloves and the oil from the skin is making this happen ? thanks . love the channel btw
@komma82037 ай бұрын
They got the iron father , the tecmarine thats made for that legion/chapter and you can use the generic one, so two models that is nice characters for them. And Emperors Children (deffenetly S tier) is getting new stuff this year if the leaks are correct. And keep it chaos in the future or do a deep dive on space wolves 😂😂
@proactive_studio6 ай бұрын
As a Raven guard and word bearers collector I may be doing this hobby wrong 😂
@erikwhitney74037 ай бұрын
Ranking based on what? If the Word Bearers were slimy double crossing backstabbers that caused the civil war, then they should be #1. Because that is what being bad is about. As for theme, they are pretty much daemon possessed and daemon users with their marines, but as of right now, most daemons are not that good to take as extras, so hopefully they do something with the new chaos codex, especially with Dark apostles being tiny bit better to use. Color scheme is pretty good. conversion better with the more daemon theme than black legion. As for power base, just like the others, Daemon PRinces heretic suck, abaddon is good but really is black legion.
Lamenters please. Blood angel lineage so no brainer ❤
@euanbeveridge54897 ай бұрын
Something's missing... 😂
@DrSomhairle7 ай бұрын
The word bearers are rubbish, totally agree. They did however predict the future religion of the imperium. They created the religion for their sins, and corrupted the imperium into religion which stands for everything that the emperor was against!
@sirgreggorygroda7 ай бұрын
Aren't all chaos legions H-tier? For heresy?
@pineapplejuice24395 ай бұрын
Wait no Alpha Legion?
@yamibryan5207 ай бұрын
Before watching this video, I just hope you guys rank my glorious Emperor's Children higher then ya'll did the Imperial fist 😂
@bobshoby7 ай бұрын
Erebus rules he's a great villain
@WarmasterPainting7 ай бұрын
Good show, shame that you put one of the most interesting Legions in D
@The_Mini_Creative7 ай бұрын
I agree George, put Word Bearers at the bottom where they belong XD
@Deadjim177 ай бұрын
That's a strong opinion about the most out and out evil legion, anything associated with Erebus, get in the bin 🤣🤣
@regularbear7 ай бұрын
Iron Warriors B Tier!! I'm out
@an0nycat7 ай бұрын
*Autism gang!*
@michaelmarkham21027 ай бұрын
We need more word bearer hate!
@James-qr5hx7 ай бұрын
F Erebus
@user-bm3ts2ql6s7 ай бұрын
my favorite chaos legion = the aWOKEn femoid guard of the trans slaaneshy emperor.