Sig 229 vs HK P30

A side-by-side look at two high quality, hammer-fired, double-to-single-action pistols: The Sig 229 and the H&K P30.
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[@hickok45]

Everybody is welcome, of course, to make comments, but please try to have something clear, constructive, and appropriate to say. Remember, a lot of youngsters around the world watch these videos and read the comments.

[@MrSmcstevesmc]

Hey Hickok, I recently found out that we are related to each other!

[@donsimons9810]

What’s your favorite 9mm for home defense?

[@Dr.IftikharMohammad]

Sir ! may i get your expert suggestion regarding the hammer fired and striker fired pistols please? what i mean is which is a better choice for self-defence, conceal carry and sometimes for range. ( i know this is not the proper place to ask but i am sure you wont mind. I am your fan and i watch your videos and learned much more things about guns. I am just a gun lover, nothing else.)

[@NRecob]

I had Glocks. Dumped the Glocks. I had Sigs.They collected dust after I bought HK's

[@OmarGonzalez-gx1ks]

N_ R GLOCK ALL DAY BABY!!!

[@75marklee]

N_ R why was that?

[@Lexicologist1971]

@Focke Wulf "arguably" means it is debatable. That means it is questionable.

[@Lexicologist1971]

@Focke Wulf, I do agree with the sentiment. I own 3 Sigs and 3 H&Ks. I've had issues with 2 of my Sigs. My H&Ks have been nearly perfect.

[@billyjones9045]

I loved my cz pistols until I got the HK p30 sk

[@marcpjoyner]

The P30 has to have the best "feel" of any pistol I've ever held.

[@Pwj579]

Rogé Selig until the VP9, (j/k , they’re pretty darn similar)

[@gnevala]

I agree about the feel of the p30 in the hand.

[@mael696]

feel , yes ; trigger - sucks

[@Room-qd7pl]

Feels so good in the hand. Only gun I have that feels better to me is the Sphinx sdp compact

[@willws2conceptsshephard]

@@mael696 agreed

[@hickok45]

@gshdrums, Come on now, you know it was the latest Victoria's Secret fashion posting that made you late. Please don't use me as a scapegoat! :-)

[@hbonilla89]

THUMBS UP FOR H&K

[@LITTLEROCK2517]

Yo

[@vcupiano]

P30 trigger leaves a little to be desired but once you get used to it, it’s really not bad. It’s got quite a bit of take up and reset but it breaks really nice. Also the P30 and particularly the Long slide version are really soft shooters. Used to have a p30, sold it, regretted it and now have a p30L. Doesn’t get much more accurate and of course it is by far the better looking of the two because looks really do matter 😉

[@ebanhb]

I like the DA/SA because it gives you a very safe firearm. When drawing and firing quickly, striker fired pistols are far more prone to "glock-legging" their owner. Also, a DA/SA pistol is far safer to hold on a person while attempting to control a situation. The DA essentially eliminates the possibility of an adrenaline twitch causing an accidental discharge. The striker fired guns are just a little to easy too set off accidentally, for my taste. That and, no matter how much I try, I just can't like that trigger safety mechanism found on most striker fired pistols. Funny how much conversation there is about how difficult it is to get accustomed to the DA/SA transition and how little there seems to be about how awkward those little levers in the trigger can be.

[@ID-X]

Thanks

[@billyjones9045]

I dont know,I was kind of worried about that at first but that first round in the hk is a hard pull. I have dropped my HK a few times never went off thank god.

[@trident1872]

@@billyjones9045 Both the Sig and HK cannot fire unless the trigger is pulled. Drop 'em all you want!

[@DPham1]

@@trident1872 Early Sig P320: let me introduce myself.

[@jhammonds36]

@@DPham1 that's because the 320 is a striker fired gun. Sig DA/SA pistols have a plunger blocking off the firing pin so it can't strike the back of a round without pulling the trigger to depress it and also the hammer won't engage the back of the firing pin without the trigger being pulled.

[@kitchentrout5867]

Sig and HK make pretty much the best production auto-loaders that money can buy. You seriously can't go wrong with either one.

[@lillionguyonyoutube9309]

Yup

[@Nicool333]

Yes indeed.

[@hyrumclarke8213]

@John Doe I'd say that they're all great companies and all have solid guns and guns that have their problems (VP9, P320 and P365, Glock 44, Glock Gen 4 at release, etc.). But I'd rank them HK, SIG hammer, Glock, CZ, SIG striker

[@Omar-if1cu]

Walther and M&P pistols are just as great I would say

[@andog6092]

@@Omar-if1cu no, nothing wrong with either had an m&p, loved it. Wanted the paddle mag release, the p30 melts in your hand, once you touch an hk, you won't go back. Heck if Germans know how to do two things great. Make beer and make things to kill people

[@liamyounger2743]

HK P30, John Wick brought me here. :)

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

Then he moved over to the Glock 34 which....gotta say....Owning two Glocks both in 9mm the Glock 34 to me is the only reason to go bigger than the Glock 19. It looks really cool with the cut-aways and whatnot! HK P30 and SIG p229 are at the tippity-top of my semi-auto list right alongside getting my Kimber 1911 back or something superior. (though TBH the Chiappa Rhino 4d which Hickock DESPISES in terms of looks...that's kinda my "must-have" for wahtever reason, that gun that calls out to me the same way the Glock 19 or Kimber Custome TLE 2 did, or Ruger Police Shooter-Six which wound up being the 1976 bicenntenial model which is just great...was given by an army buddy, kinda my favorite carry gun tbh, and it's 41 years old!) The HK P30 I know would feel great, and I hear both good and bad things about the trigger. Im personally a DA/SA man (SA, really, if I can go the 1911 route) though I recognize the Glock 19 as the "Go-to"....that said the HK-p30 and SIG P229, can't go wrong. The HK-p30 can be purchased new for the same price of the now pretty dated, yet still awesome looking, BEretta 92fs/M9

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

Note: the HK P30 Long and the ones from John Wick particularly are at least $1200, the one I saw in this video was around $650, then I saw one for $550, new!

[@TheGV50]

I worked for Kimber, their 1911's are highly over-rated!

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

I'd love to hear more as a former Kimber owner. Loved mine but I think i'll go for a Springfield 1911...what would you go for (if you HAD to pick a 1911...not sure if you are a fan or not, i presume so..

[@ALIRStudio87]

HK company decided to reduce the prices of the HK p30s and HK45s to almost half the price. so yes you can get an HK p30 for 550$ now.

[@skfj67]

After watching this i have an different outlook on guns now. I just seen them as something bad, iv'e never owned one (legal or illegal) but for enthusiasm and if i ever get my own home(for some reason i feel safe in this apartment situation i'm in) home protection . . .i think i'll get one. Taking it to the range every now and again is only gonna make me more aware of it's workings. Nice review here.

[@75marklee]

" nothing scarier than a man with a gun; nothing more helpless than a man without one " - Godless

[@derekhall7610]

I recommend when yoy get for tge first two weeks shooting it every day. Just a magazine or two everyday will get you proficient and safe with your fire arm. And maybe down tge line take a shooting class with it. Not nust a saftey class. There is nothing worse than someone woth a gun that does not know how or when to use it. Remember every bullet has a lawyer's name on it.

[@derekhall7610]

Saftey is an illusion, when you think your safe thats when your in the most danger. Why? You let your guard down.

[@gutyourtrust]

Education is the way !

[@k1j2f30]

@@derekhall7610 Typing classes can be beneficial as well. Just kidding, Lol.

[@buickkkkkk1]

I wonder if Hickok is the local dumpster diver with all those plastic bottles he shoots.

[@murph55]

Sotallytober i thought you were going to say plastic guns

[@buickkkkkk1]

Touche , mr Glock shooter.

[@netminder1976]

I doubt it. Probably has stock in Shasta

[@Petey214]

13 years later I still have my P30.Because of your video, Ive gotten 2 other P30s and 1 P30sk. Thank you for your insight.

[@ztunelover]

It's all perspective man, my first and only pistol is a p30l, I find the browning button to be weird. Not saying I dislike glocks or any of those. Dont know what this guys problem is, but I think HK builds some absolutely top drawer pistols.

[@Uckertay]

Haha!! "That's my neighbor shooting. Kind of a ballistic neighborhood." Nice pun there!

[@daveferrara]

Every time I search for a gun review, I find one of your videos! Incredible! Keep up with the good work!

[@boomguymike]

Thank you! I went with the P30.

[@Stonare]

swiss police officers carry the hk p30.

[@ReneMacias1978]

As a proud owner of a Sig Sauer 229 equinox I'll admit that the HK is just as good as the Sig. Arguing that one is better than the other is like arguing which one is better, Ferrari? Or Lamborguini? In essence it's an exercise in futility. They are both awesome

[@drewflanagan4296]

... and besides, everyone knows Porsche is always the answer :p

[@astromoosie]

ahem, ferrari

[@eddiebulan5634]

What??? A Lamborghini can not be compared to a Ferrari the Lamborghini is on another level lol

[@meatrocket1]

Well the Ferrari is better than the Lamborghini as for the guns tho I agree. JK

[@eddiebulan5634]

Rene Macias a Ferrari to a Lamborghini what Lamborghini hands down jeeze learn ur cars lol maybe Lamborghini and McLaren

[@emiliocolon6158]

Best videos ever. Thanks! P30 was my first love in to the hobby, many have come and gone but still my P30 has stayed cause once you feel this baby in your hands is like a match made in heaven.

[@hickok45]

@joshthemangojunkee40, Just the dollars we get from being KZbin Partners. I don't get money from anybody except KZbin.

[@Machria23]

Hickok, 2 quick QUESTIONS for you:1. Since you do not like the DA/SA trigger differences... Why don't you eval the LEM versions of these pistols instead?2. Do a video/test with the P30SK (the compact version), also in the LEM version. How do you like that one?Thanks!!

[@dranomilkshake]

Finally, a pistol review that is informative and entertaining. This guy is all right.

[@lukejolley8354]

You gotta try the LEM trigger! Finally solves the DA/SA problem you don’t like

[@Chris-pb3se]

As a Sig, H&k and Hickok45 fanboy, I’m surprised you don’t have a P220 and USP 45 going head to head. I feel like those are closer in size and cartridge to what those tennis racket sized hands are used to.

[@lvx861]

I own both in 40. I love the P30 40. Its an amzing gun to hold and shoot!!! The P229 is a great gun also but I give the edge to the P30

[@adriansoto239]

I agree. Its very difficult to make that conclusion though. Both guns are like the best of the best.

[@kurt31451]

Is there a difference in recoil and muzzle rise between the P30 and P229 in .40? Any opinion will be appreciated. Thanks.

[@GregHuston22]

Sig 229 is the most accurate .40 I've ever shot, you just can't do better than a Sig for a stock pistol.

[@jkgoet01]

it's awesome to know that sane, normal, intelligent people are out there like yourself to help represent the gun community, Keep it up! Great video!

[@johncuriel3343]

@hickok45 do a review on the usp 45 for us.

[@6speedsti241]

YES IVE HAD ONE FOR YEARS

[@Tbone42tx]

Just recently picked up a Sig 229r....love it!!!...Neva had an HK but would love to get a p30 I'm sure there both great guns...unlike alot of guys i love all fire arms!!! No Fan Boy Here!!!

[@puertoricanboy100]

Hickock thank you for the videos. I live in Puerto Rico which means, car jacking is a high possibility at night in certain places. I was thinking on going for a p229 legion for concealed carry... but what would you think if I inclined more to the P30?

[@robertborne895]

puertoricanboy100 both are great. Sig mags are a bit cheaper especially since you can always find preowned out there.

[@thesmitty83]

I'm no expert by any means nor have i shot tens of thousands of rounds in any of my guns, but after 20 years of recreational shooting my HKs are the only guns that have never failed me once.

[@johnglkman778]

Owned both. P30 all the way. SIG had to go by by. Great vid as always.

[@Crr4027]

I 2nd the srt trigger has the win

[@MelleLaCruze]

***** I'm afraid to say that you have officially been diagnose with severe SIGness and HKaholism

[@ryancabitac4080]

John GLKman check you eyes to maybe you hav glockomma.

[@ryancabitac4080]

MelleLaCruze possibly you have glockomma.

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

Thanks for the opinion John....Wish the post wasn't so long ago, I hear the P30 trigger is inferior to the SIG but...now im hearing the opposite, i go a few posts down, ill hear the opposite. To me, owning an SP2022 which i know isn't as good as either (and a Glock 19) to me my priority might shift to what feels the best and to just having a highly-tradeable HK, so I can have one of each :)

[@nukemiller1]

This sig does not have a rail due to the SAS...you can get the P229 in different variants...SAS stands for Sig Anti Snag...it allows for quick draw...I love my P229, wouldn't mind looking further into the P30

[@brociousplumbing]

First time I have watched one of your reviews, nice to see someone that actually has done some range time. You did a nice job, go SIG by the way

[@Dagger_323]

I have never shot either one of these pistols, but from a viewer standpoint I think the H&K P30 is by far the better looking of the two...

[@x44magnum]

H&K all day

[@kamuirsx]

The New Sig's are not that bad to be honest. I have 3 Sigs now and they are all amazing. I've have 0 problems out of all of them. However, back on topic...is that a SAS P229 or an older model? The reason I ask is because all of my Sig's have a 3 dot sight and that one shows a 1 dot sight.

[@alexportuano4816]

like the sound track on this video. The safer neighborhood...

[@supermaucat]

SIGUSA has the worst customer service (if you could even call it that) in the industry. I would NEVER own a SIG because of that :( Also, SIGs have issues... BATF banned their agents from carrying one because of the jamming issues. AFT put SIGs through trials and SIGs jammed like crazy.

[@ahrne]

Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. Very informative and greatly appreciated!

[@d993s]

The Swiss and German Sigs are excellent, while much of what Sig puts out from Exeter, NH, is CRAP

[@Hugh-jaynes]

Lol I see you reaching for that Sig decocker on the HK. 12:44

[@daltonwilliams84]

Funnily enough I own a P30L in 9mm and a P229 in .357 Sig (originally in .40) and I can't get over how chunkier the P229 is, but the trigger is definitely better. The ergonomics on the H&K are great though. I've started hitting the decock button with my strong hand's thumb and easing down the hammer so it isn't as jarring.

[@rcboys619]

I have the H&K p30 I love it

[@reidclag]

I wish that 229 would have the 3-dot night sights like my SP 2022 has, they are much better in my mind.

[@MrFlint62]

I wish people would stop comparing every gun to a 1911. If you want a 1911, then get a 1911. If I did have one, it would either be a Sig or a Colt Combat.

[@Nazgul001]

David...almost every modern auto traces it's roots to the classic 1911. Like these two guns. Sure they're much more modern, but you can see the basic principles of both are 1911-ish.

[@MrFlint62]

Nazgul001 Yes, I know (most) semi autos are based on John Browning's design, but a 1911 is a 1911. All other guns are not!

[@chrisguerrero2078]

Over 1 million views, less than 7k 👍🏼?

[@MussieTekie]

Have you ever shot HK MK 23? PLEASE show us!!

[@Danny65673]

I did better with the HK than p226 that I tested at a range. I'm very new to practicing this, but I actually think I prefer the DA/SA. It sort of forces me to focus on the squeeze rather than the shot because of how it changes the feel like that. At first, I felt uncomfortable with the switch from DA to SA, but then it occurred to me that the gun itself is just as accurate regardless of how far I have to squeeze the trigger. So, now I use the change as a sort of guide that reminds me to focus on squeezing the trigger rather than on the shot that's about to happen. It throws off my ability to predict exactly where the shot will come out so that I can forget about the kick and let it happen unexpectedly like we're taught to help avoid anticipating it.

[@Blakehenry11]

IMO the P229 blows the P30 out of the water, especially if the Sig has the SRT trigger.

[@kkerbawy]

Sigs just aren't what they used to be, read up on their recent quality control and you will probably cry. My fav pistol is still my German p226, but only because of ergonomics

[@joelmason4513]

Watching this video 11 years later You can tell the technology has definitely advanced in his videos. Great comparison, as I am looking at a HK with the LEM trigger system. Decisions decisions. Thanks for all your hours of hard work.

[@johndel1971able]

As an HK guy the lem is fantastic, it just takes a little getting used to and practice. There da/sa are nice as well.

[@eduardomahoudeau7787]

Heckler&koch yesterday, today and tomorrow will be the best, no questions ask!!!

[@22BStan]

H&K all day

[@Jorgen87]

the cops here has the P30, and even has it loaded with full mag + one in the chamber. Even though since it has not any safety on it has been few shots by accident. Even though, not even military has loaded chambered before they go into action..

[@RaderizDorret]

+Jorgen H Not quite. USAF Security Forces carry their M9s with 15 rounds in the gun (14 in the mag, one in the chamber) with the hammer down and the safety off. Talking to the guys who work the armory cage, NDs aren't that common on the bases I've been to.

[@Jorgen87]

RaderizDorret i was thinking about my countrys millitary force 😉

[@RaderizDorret]

Fair enough. That practice is fairly standard among most militaries, actually. Rather than teach soldiers to actually handle a pistol safely, most militaries barely give their troops a familiarization course and then have standing orders that the guns don't have a round chambered when in the holster for "safety reasons".

[@unfairfair]

The Sig 229 is just beautiful :3

[@YoungstaD713]

I just got mine =) P229 dated 2012.

[@sameeralomari9132]

Brendon Ryan Albury P229

[@nukemiller1]

It is a good point to note that the Sig P229 is all stainless which gives it more weight, and the HK has a polymer frame with a stainless slide...HK has a better barrel design in that they twist the barrel instead of having grooves in it...makes it easier to clean

[@rockets9488]

I'm actually about to buy the HK P30 in .40S&W so this was nice to see another review with it right before hand and to know you like it too! Thanks Hickock!

[@chozen_juan]

I actually prefer hammer fired guns.. ( aesthetics ) I just dont think they are as easy to shoot as striker fired guns. My reason for thinking this is I have shot a wide variety of each

[@ericjohnson1455]

Two really nice guns, I have 2 of each actually. The SIG is proof positive that bore axis really is over rated. My SIG 229's as well my 226 are extremely soft shooters and very fast to re-aquire. Very little muzzle rise and easily as soft shooting as the amazing P30. With that said my P30L is one of my favorite pistols, the weight, the grip are really second to none but I have to give the SIG kudos for the better trigger. Give me a tigger as good as the SIG, grip as comfortable as the P30, the balance of the P30L and an durable steel frame and now we are talking...oh wait I just described my CZ SP-01! Thanks for your awesome videos Hickock!!

[@radsss45]

Eric Johnson HK USP 9mm with a match trigger dropped in = sex. nuff said.

[@TheTLElliott]

The SIG P229 comes in .357 SIG as well, the caliber used by Secret Service, ICE, etc. These are both great guns, but I know the SIG shoots like butter.

[@skatelifesmylife]

THUMBS UP if u think hickok45 is the greatest man alive!

[@gobucks45177]

They have the LEM trigger on the H&K. It is very close to the DAK trigger on the Sig. It is about 5 to 6lbs on the trigger pull so not bad. One of the downsides to these guns are the cost of extra mags. $50 and up is too high! Other than that great guns

[@MrSkypony]

I would pick the sig because of things like the decocker being better and the way the sig feels in your hand, but im a little sig bias as I own a sig 226 9mm, sig 226 40S&W, 229 9mm, sig 1911 45 acp, sig 938 in 9mm and my winter carry gun the sig 320C in 357 sig. I only carry the 320 in winter because living in Florida it gets to hot to wear a over shirt and with a T-Shirt I can carry the 938 with no problem

[@ferdinandnell9691]

> "I'm a little Sig biased" - lists 6 Sig pistols he owns... Lol

[@kamranjanvri4619]

HK a German brand so bias is understood 🇩🇪

[@mbenzsl2000]

So is Sig...At least the Sauer half.

[@michaelwoods9005]

And Sig isn't?

[@ana17lucia]

My favorite carry gun HK P30 SK LEM

[@soundsnags2001]

The DASA is pretty 👌 tbh

[@WallyMerc06]

Well done Hickock, nice comparison. I really like how you tested the double to single shooting on both guns. Thanks.

[@gcanada3005]

That 40 makes quite a racket when hitting the steel.

[@elliejohnson2786]

Ugh, i don't like the look or feel of the Sig P22 series, i much prefer HK/FN pistols. But i guess that's my preference.

[@robertlittle2429]

Sig Legions!

[@Ir0nPatri0t1]

Robert Little - Hickok please review a P226 legion.

[@Wolf-427]

Thanks for this review. I just bought a P226 and I'm thinking about the P30. I've noticed in your video and a few that I have already seen in person, the P30's finish is really bad on durability.

[@leonkennedy4587]

The HK's Environmental Hostile finish? You think its bad ? Whys that?

[@Tain950]

The P30 looks like it fits in the hand like a glove.

[@Min4Mass]

Rez it does, I have the p30L

[@kwdivikaw]

Rez oh goodness, yes! The ergonomics on the P30 is off the charts

[@vcupiano]

I know it’s subjective but the euro style mag release is by far the most ergonomic mag release in the industry. And the mags fly out of that grip like there’s no tomorrow.

[@JugularCandy]

You should do a video on the H&K USP. 40 or .45.

[@Lexicologist1971]

I have the 40. I fed it garbage ammo and it malfunctioned a couple of times back in 1999. It has been perfect ever since.

[@hickok45]

@frodo70444 , Some people are just generally nosey.

[@tcsevoxgsr62]

Hey can u do a video about UPS H&K 45 tactical

[@marksweetser6312]

Thon Saephanh is that the brown model?

[@stevegant7286]

My P226 is stamped Made in West Germany! Yes, I've had it since I was 21 and it's one of my favorites! I'm as old as Hickok 45! :)

[@italianwjt]

I couldn't agree with you more. I also have a Sig P229, great accuracy, unbelievably smooth trigger pull. I have not had one jam with this gun to date.

[@MikeVerta]

Proud owner of both a P226 Mk25 and a P30L v3, and if I could save only one from a fire, I think I'd just die with them instead.

[@michaelkennedy2901]

Shot both and I like the Sig 10x better. Feels better, recoils better. Plus it's used all over the world.

[@proudinfidel7791]

hickok45 I thoroughly enjoy your videos. They are very informative and I like the way you present yourself. I've watched other videos by so called "experts" and most of these guys are trying to be like, Joe Tactical all the time and they make me want to throw up everything I have eaten that day. They are so busy telling you how qualified they are that they forget to tell you anything of value about the weapon that is being featured. I am a total handgun junkie and I would own them all if I could afford it, but by watching your videos, I have been able to be a bit more selective about what I spend my money on. Thanks for all you do and keep the videos coming!

[@103959770979]

The Sig P229 has picatinny rails, the P229 SAS has no accessory rail and is complete Anti-Snag” and refers to the aggressive “carry melt” process applied to the slide and frame in Sig’s Custom Shop, which smoothes all the corners and edges for comfort in carry, the trigger of the P229 is amazing, the P229 is the best pick for CCW. If you prefer strike fire over hammer fired you are not a 1911 guy hickok.

[@spaceforcecommander9062]

Just curious if youve tried the srt triggers as a comparison for da/sa triggers. Does it help with that transition.

[@jimh4949]

Gabriel Baker yes it does make a difference, I have the SRT on my 229 and the stock on my 228.

[@jamaicanempress131]

the HK seems more accurate to me and i love the mag release, I love how u show how they work at different distances and your very good I wanna be a good shooter like you

[@MrPhotographerDude]

Actually the Sig doesn't look like it's recoiling all that much

[@clewi1091]

Man, the metal was really ringing today. Sounded like church bells.

[@dxhighendamplifiers]

You have passion and love them all...usually you say they're both nice guns...for us would be more interestring to have a rate from you in a 100 points scale...if possible naturally not giving 99 to all guns..... Glock is known as the best in my country...seems you like them too... i know nothing about guns, if i decide to make a choice based in your tests i wouild buy all them.... i'm in Brazil, home of Taurus

[@joztunes69]

I prefer the Sig

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

Own both but the HK P30's recoil reduction system really makes it an easier shooter. For the money the HK takes the cake on a quantifiable level, however, the SIG Navy and Elite models are really nifty, though im looking for an older one with west german markings if i can ever find one, lol

[@Toyman07]

I would compare the P229 with the Hk 2000sk my page has some picks of the newest gens of them in .40. Im a 40yr collector and dislike show offs so will only say I own a 3 digit collection and it contains antiques to moderns. But I do have every model and gen of Sig and Hk rilfe and handgun. For me Hk's beat out Sig's but only slightly, gun depending off course for Sig's the Swiss or German made ones out shine the US made ones both in long gun and handguns. Hk's on the other hand have never failed me.

[@thomasward00]

Having owned both HK's and Sig's, all of my HK's are now sold. They are the best polymer pistol on the market, no doubt... But for $800.00 dollars plus, I want more than a polymer gun.... A Sig P Series cost more to make than an HK, you get more gun for your money...

[@Ohsnapzdawg]

Thomas Ward you can buy a $200,000 gold toilet, but that doesn't make it better than a porcelain one.

[@DavidSmith-jj5pr]

Ohsnapzdawg a better comparison would be a porcelain or plastic toilet. a plastic port-o-potty functions just fine, but......

[@Grim67894]

Sig is better to shoot. HK will be more reliable in extreme situations. But that's unlikely.

[@rolandolozano5435]

i got a new p30 for 650

[@ZEFFENWULF]

p30 goes for 650 new. in WA

[@alzathoth]

what's the distance of hickok's "gong test"? does anyone know? both nice guns > :)

[@robertborne895]

alzathoth 80 to 90 yards depending on where he is standing

[@quitepossible4498]

Have an issue with the DA/SA? Just carry it in SA. Problem solved. Its no different than your M&P or Glock.

[@hickok45]

Actually, it would be quite different with most I've experienced; I'd be packing with a really light trigger, similar to carrying a 1911 with the thumb safety disengaged.

[@damenspillman1804]

There is no thumb safety on the P229. Condition 0 on a very light SA trigger is not smart at all. There is a big difference between a 3.5 lb SA vs 5.5 lb DAO striker fired pistol.

[@kimmeldds]

Cocked and locked is fine by me, but in this version you'd have no "locked", so you'd just be "cocked." However, you can convert the HK P30 to a different variant by adding a thumb safety, which would allow safe carry while the hammer is back.

[@quitepossible4498]

Damen Spillman Actually your numbers are incorrect. I currently carry an M&P with a 5.5# trigger. Glock boasts a factory 5# trigger, its actually 7 or 8. Are we saying someone would have a ND with the Sig 4.4# trigger and not a Glick or M&P with a 5.5# trigger? That 1 # makes the gun safe from people who cannot handle s firearm? Of course not. The argument that a 4 # trigger is unsafe is absolutely silly. I had an ND with an XD and that 7# trigger. The only safety is your brain. Simple.

[@damenspillman1804]

A big factor you are forgetting is pull length. In SA, there really isn't much play, and virtually none with a SRT. Meanwhile on a Glock or MP, you have to move the trigger over a distance before it will fire. No, one lb probably won't make a difference if the pull length is identical, but they aren't

[@doughunt7000]

I have a 229 and a 226. They are great guns. I have never had a stoppage. And I have shot at least 1000 rounds through both . I can shoot these weapons more accurately than any other handgun I have tried . Centre mass at 25 m with a good firing rate is no problem. Love my sigs

[@51Dss]

Even though the sig was a 40sw it seemed like you were a bit more consistent with it than you were with the HK - one of the reasons I chose my P229 over the HK was that the Sig was much easier to field strip and reassemble than the HK. Also I liked the weight/heft of the sig in my hand as compared to the HK. As you stated early on in the vid when I picked up the Sig I told the sales associate that it felt natural, and substantial...like a gun ought to feel in the hand...whatever that means...guess you can tell I like Sigs

[@thedeitsch]

@cmtecampos2 No, the gun that Bourne usually has (the one in his depository in Zurich) is a Sig Pro 2022. It's very similar to the P229 though.

[@protectiverailroaddad7541]

Sig trigger>Hk trigger

[@frankiegunnz8066]

wrong!

[@Grim67894]

This isn't wrong, the p30 trigger is not as good, even on HK forums people say this. But I'd take the HK because of other factors aside from trigger

[@protectiverailroaddad7541]

moritsuna yes this is correct. I've had plenty of da/sa HK's and sigs and all the sigs triggers were noticeably better, especially in da. The one thing sig gets right is the da/sa trigger system, amongst other things

[@protectiverailroaddad7541]

Frankie Gunnz pick up a p30 and p226 and honestly tell me the p30 has a superior trigger to the sig. If you say the HK's trigger is smoother, lighter, less stacking, and cleaner breaking you are delusional or just a good old fashion Hk fanboy. Hk doesn't make a trigger that can compete with a sig srt trigger, not even close. I'd more than likely take a hk over a Sig but it isn't because of the trigger, that's for sure. Currently I own more HK's than sigs, but that's always subject to change

[@TheFredman08]

Depends on the variant.

[@yangjin6639]

I recommend H.K more than Sig on my experience. 2 shot in single hole-Dime or Penny size-at 7 yards with H.K.With Sig,it is impossible dream.-It was factory original condition!

[@monkeyboy8me]

didnt even watch the video and I already know the HK is better

[@MrSkypony]

+monkeyboy8me You should have watched the video then you would know the sig wins in several ways.

[@K-bob_45]

They are on the same level. Just preference wins out at that point. I prefer Hk. It's what I'm used to, specifically in light LEM.

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

State the several ways or STFU ;) I can state several big ways HK > SIG....recoil reduction, 94k round test, 27+ grip variations. Takes VP9 magazines. Looks amazing.

[@awc723]

for Sig apparently i'm a red headed stepchild lefty....so Ambi is the biggest reason...plus say what you want but i'm a hk fanboy

[@awc723]

+MrSkypony Why did he say if he had to take one and sell every other gun he had he tapped the HK and said this is it...not sure that means the sig wins in several(which is more than 3) ways....

[@monkeyboy8me]

HK and sig the best around and its not even close

[@danielcruz4850]

The title real should be why I like the Sig over the HK

[@inuyashaspet]

I love how you meticulously go back and forth between the two guns, seemingly never making up your mind until the very end. It shows how much thought you put into these videos! It's like when I keep sipping between two great whiskies to decide which one is better, and in exactly what ways.