Sig P365 X Macro Problem and Fix

The trigger return spring came out of its tab. Easy fix though.

[@billmadara]

So glad I came across your video because I was thinking I was the only person who ever had this problem. I haven’t had more than 1000 rounds through it and it happened three times so far. I purchased OEM trigger bar springs and have replaced the original with them. However, it happened two more times and Sig told me to send it back to them and it would be under warranty as long as I didn’t do any work on it. Well, I had to qualify with it so of course I had to work on it!!! Someone pointed out that the one end of the spring sits in a notch in the magazine well and it sticks out a fraction too long and magazines pop the spring off. All five of my magazines had marks with the end of the tab was striking the spring. I filed the end of the spring tab a fraction and hope it holds up.

[@Kornholeeoo]

The first P365s had a lot of them with springs too long and were scratching the mags. Thought they had fixed all of them by now. Also make sure the other end of the spring is seated in the hole on the trigger return bar. Hope it works now. Thanks for watching and sharing what you’ve found.

[@billmadara]

Well I recently found that filing a little off of the trigger spring didn’t fix the problem. I was really disappointed being told by a CS representative from Sig that I voided the warranty by dissembling the FCU. I finally purchased a spring that is supposed to be about a stronger spring. I carried Sig’s on the job after we got rid of the revolvers. Sig 9mm then Sig 40 caliber and NEVER had one single problem. Planning on taking it to a good gunsmith if the new spring doesn’t fix the problem. Purchased a bunch of extra OEM Sig parts if it helps the gunsmith. I don’t get that warm fuzzy feeling when I’m in the WallyWorld parking lot at night and see someone that I put in prison.

[@dadthefixerflorida]

Good to see a man working on his tools. He didn’t sit there and whine about it, good to see problem solving in the field. This is reality is failures will happen, we need to know how to troubleshoot

[@Kornholeeoo]

Thank you and thanks for watching! I appreciate it!

[@whiskerbiscuit99]

Obviously theres garbage, and if the intended use is self defense then there is zero room for grabage. But.... even quality arms malfunction, knowing how to troubleshoot/repair malfunctions on your own is IMO the most important aspect of firearm ownership and use. You must understand how the weapon functions in entirety. Im an AR guy, build all my own stuff, most of it from mid grade parts, from time to time someone will jab with "thats not Daniel Defense" or any other top tier platform. Those same guys 5 mins later will be fighting ftf's or other malfunctions, get pissed, throw it back in the case and ill see em stop at the gun shop and huck it in there, and hear them complain about how much they paid and the dang gun dont work. Meanwhile my midgrade garbage, once sorted out initially, just keeps ticking every single time I go out. Knowing how to troubleshoot, repair, and tune firearms into reliable operation is paramount. In a shtf situation you cant run to the shop you bought it from. Figure it out, make it work, move forward. And all guns malfunction at some point, its just whether you can get it back functional or not.

[@johnviera3884]

Yep. That should be the Sig Sauer slogan: Failures Will Happen.

[@joshuarose983]

@@Kornholeeoo general question. if you take the light off your pistol, reholster it into the holster formed to fit it with a light. Does it become a loose fit not having the light attached

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@joshuarose983 My holster is made to be used with the light. If I take the light off, in won’t fit. Sure the gun will go in but it is not secured and will wobble around in there. I also have a holster for the gun without the light too.

[@365xmacronocomp]

I got the p365 X macro no comp 3730 rounds through it absolutely flawless it feels so good in my hands I got the large back strap on it I am so good with it I like the gun a lot

[@austinpinkerman6675]

200 rounds thru mine, no problems whatsoever , accurate, was great out of the box

[@mikec9636]

That’s great! What’s your take on it? I just bought one.

[@vadadofthr3357]

I'm in about the same place. I love it compared to my original p365, it is a world of difference! So much better to shoot. To me the gun doesnt have the nasty snap that the original has when shooting. Its much more controllable, enjoyable even to shoot.

[@austinpinkerman6675]

@@mikec9636 I will conceal my original p365 as always but I got the macro for outside waistband carry, doing work outside, fourwheeler riding, vehicle gun ect. I think it shoots flatter, less muzzle flip. Some complaining saying they'd rather have extra barrel length vs the comp, I'm sure it's not gonna make much of a difference with modern Ammo. I really like it

[@HBK360MUSIC]

Got about 500 rounds through mine and it has failed to eject twice

[@rwalker98]

I just bought mine and 62 shots later on the day that I bought it, the slide no longer returns on its own. It feels like its bone dry and that the metal is binding, but after disassembling, it has plenty of oil. You have to force the slide back into its closed position after every shot. It stops maybe 1/2 an inch when it tries to close on its own (after every shot). The shop that I bought it from said that theyve never seen that happen and that it needs to go in as a warranty claim :( Made me want to cry. Brand new out of the box. Needless to say, the shop told me about all of the Sig horror stories that theyve seen. Basically called it an overpriced POS. Still, I love the way that it shoots plus it looks really cool!

[@Kornholeeoo]

Awe. Well I hope they get it fixed quick! I love the gun too. I just hate hearing folks have problems with them. Let me know when you get it fixed. Is the shop going to help you send it in?

[@rwalker98]

@@Kornholeeoo After watching your video, it inspired me to go look at the gun closer by way of disassembly to try and pinpoint the issue. The shop is still in possession of it (I have to wait for the 7 day cool down period to expire before I can bring the gun home), however I can go there and shoot it at their range whenever I want. Anyway, you inspired me to go up there today to break the gun down and try to fix the issue myself. Welp, I fixed it!! Im a newbie mind you (this is my first gun). I looked up known issues with this gun and found that the slide not returning to battery is pretty common. My first mistake was that I shot the gun right out of the box. I didnt know that I was supposed to clean it before shooting it the first time. My q-tips all looked like I dipped them in tar by the time I finished the initial cleaning. I oiled it up after cleaning and the slide started to function way smoother. I broke it down again, cleaned and oiled it 2 more times and kept racking the heck out of it. Finally, it started to return to battery as smooth as butter! The guy at the shop was kind enough to let me use their range for free to make sure all was good. I put 50 rounds through it with zero issues!! Super happy right now! Sir, thank you so much for this video. Youve inspired a newbie like myself to not be afraid to dig in and remedy the problem instead of crying over spilled milk. God bless you sir!

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@rwalker98 🤩 WOW! This!! This right here!!! This is what it’s all about! This is why I do this!!! I love making these videos because it’s a passion and a hobby and I want others to be able to do things for themselves and learn and become self-sufficient! You have made my day, sir! Thank you so much for letting me know this. I see many years in your future out shooting and having a blast… pun intended🤣. I get comments like this every now and then and you cannot understand how it makes my heart glad! I do believe you will continue with this and pass along your knowledge to others as well. We owe it to our future to do so. Thank you so much!!!

[@ohenry4834]

seems like Blazer is the only ammo manufacturer who cares the consumers, I already bought two set of discounted ammo sales and it happens to be all Blazers... God Bless to you as well Sir...

[@mikeb.2925]

I just picked mine up this week and it was bone dry out of the box. Not a drop of oil or grease. Never seen a new gun so dry. Action and trigger were really stiff even after oil. Smoothed up with a little TV watching but I imagine it will continue to improve during the break in process.

[@CaffeineFreak13]

Thats weird bcus mine had oil all in it. I took it apart and found lithium grease in places as well. Then again mine was still inside the blue bag so the oils were trapped in

[@coreysharp9794]

@@CaffeineFreak13 same here. Wet and ready lmao.

[@russdennis7026]

I'm done with Sig for my off duty carry gun. Not that I don't like Sig but the process of a complete breakdown of this pistol takes too long imo. The Sig FCU is a major pain and if time is on the line you'll run out of it. I've been carrying the G43x mos for a few months now and couldn't be happier. Glock gets a lot of crap but simplicity is what makes Glock so unique imo. Most people don't care about that but I do. Thanks for sharing.

[@Kornholeeoo]

I get it. I do. I still love my G45. I had the G43X and it shot great but I did have a problem with the slide release/slide stop when the gun got hot. It stuck out like a quarter inch and the polymer stuff got mushy right beside the slide stop. It scared me. Now…I was mag dumping 20 round S15 mags with 5 round extensions like 4 in a row on a day where it was 100° outside. But when the slide locked back on the last round, it was sticking out a quarter inch. When I pulled the slide back and released it, it all went back in place. I let it cool down and then ran some Glock 10 round mags through it and after a couple of mags, it did it again with the factory mags. Never had that happen and it’s never happened on my G45. So I lost some confidence in the small G43X and G48. I think the grip frames are thicker on the newer MOS ones with the light rails. But cleaning a Glock is easier. But I’ve learned that to clean the FCU on the Sig, just blast it with break cleaner and then spray it with REM oil and it’s an easy job. Then clean the slide and barrel. I can take the FCU apart and put it back together pretty quickly though. But as for shooting, the G43X and G48 were great shooters. I just like the 17 round mag capacity of the X Macro. If Glock could do that with their smaller guns, I’d buy one. But my Sig is on my hip and my G45 is locked in a quick safe in the truck when I’m out driving.

[@russdennis7026]

@@Kornholeeoo Glock will fix this.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@russdennis7026 Oh I already sold it. With full disclosure of course. Thanks.

[@russdennis7026]

@@KornholeeooDamn it. lol. Thanks for being so cool and having a cordial discussion. We all have a preference in guns and that's ok. Remember we're all on the same side.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@russdennis7026 Heck yeah! Read my mind! I always tell folks the best gun for them is one they can shoot and hit with. My ex could only hit with a revolver shooting one handed. Two handed? She couldn’t hit the floor if she dropped the bullet! Shoot That Thang!

[@matthewthompson5244]

Got mine a week ago. Have put 200 through it. No issues

[@Kornholeeoo]

I’ve not had any other issues since this either.

[@Pocketpowerplant]

Had mine for 8 days. Rust on the back of the slide plate cover, rust on trigger shoe & rust into the bore. Called Sig sent pictures in could not believe I was sent a generic message back saying to oil it clean it up.I escalated the matter of fact and Sig said to send it in. Don't got time for this BS. In the sport of firearms since 1987 Been carrying for over two decades. So, its safe to say, I have seen Sig pull this crap off be4. The Macro module is great! I believe Sig has overstock on 365 parts. So they used the old/bad stock to put my pistol together. Also, I see other youtube videos show RUST on Macro. It's just crummy business. I own alot of high end Sigs. I think if anyone received the brand new pistol that has my problems would be pissed. 🎉

[@Kornholeeoo]

Heck I’d be mad too! I’ve been fortunate not to have had any rust issues. But the local cardiologist was at the range just yesterday and told me his had rust issues too! I think you’re right about using some of the older stock items though. I hope they make it right for you. Thanks for watching!

[@Pocketpowerplant]

@Kornholeeoo Your content is outstanding! Love you channel! Thank you for putting in the work! Stayblessed!

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@Pocketpowerplant Thank you so much! I hope you are blessed with more than you can imagine!!

[@Pocketpowerplant]

@Kornholeeoo Wow thank you for the kind words💜 I really needed that. Alot of people have lost values these days.I wish for you and yours to stay safe, happy, healthy & Blessed.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@Pocketpowerplant Thank you. You brightened my day for sure!

[@psycold]

I just got my X Macro Comp a few days ago, went shooting yesterday. The pin that sits below the rear part of the slide and just above the beaver tale just popped out in the middle of shooting. I had never taken the gun apart or anything. Brand new out of the box. I was told it's a machining defect and I'll need to send it in.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Dang. That’s the takedown pin. That should never pop out on its own. That’s what holds the fire control group in the frame. There is a small C-clip, well more like a D-clip, that holds that pin in place. I show this in my other video. I’d make sure it’s in place. Then make sure the pin goes in place like it should. If the pin was not seated in its proper place from the factory, it may pop out. But put it in place where the clip is fitting in the grove on the pin. If it won’t hold in place, it may need to be sent back to SIG.

[@psycold]

@@Kornholeeoo looks like you were right, talked to sig on the phone and they said it needed to be sent in. Bummer but glad I found out early on. Thanks for the info.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@psycold Aww that sucks. Well at least they’ll fix it and take a closer look at production so others won’t have to go through this. They had a lot of guys shooting these pistols before they released them. Seems like some of this would have been found.

[@tedcollins4684]

Quality control doesn't exist anymore. My new S&W revolver broke after 26 shots. I had it 2 days, they have had it a month. Problem is I can not trust it. I was thinking of trading it in on a 365 of so kind. Maybe I'll look at yet a different manufacturer.

[@JimD777]

@@tedcollins4684 Glock

[@jeffmurphy9987]

Each firearm I purchase the first thing I do is strip it down do a quick inspection looking for any obvious issues then lather it in oil and gun grease. Cycle the moving parts maybe twenty five times this starts the break in process. Quality guns are tight in the beginning as they break in the parts should wear together into a smooth operation. And fortunately never had an issue.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Good advice!

[@ducvanbui36]

Just bought a p365 and after a few dry fire, disassembly for inspection and reassemble, the trigger is stuck and gun doesn’t cock. Seem very similar to this. Pretty frustrating brand new.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Yes it does sound like this. I made a video about installing the M Carbo trigger. I go into a good detail on the Fire Control Group. If you want to see a good breakdown of it all and how it all goes back together, it may be worth a watch for you.

[@JesusFreak8824]

Nice to find some unbiased reviews!

[@Kornholeeoo]

Thanks. Really appreciate this!

[@2713walker]

Thanks for the video….what light do you have on it??

[@Kornholeeoo]

I keep an Olight BALDR Mini on it at bedside. While carrying during the day, I don’t have the light. Waiting on holsters for it with the BALDR. The BALDR is flush with the end of the barrel and I like that.

[@coldpaw1930]

What holster manufacturer did you find for the BALDR

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@coldpaw1930 WERKZ Holsters. They are awesome.

[@kudzukid12]

You just got a new subscriber sir! I love how genuine you are and I love the name. I need TP! Lol keep up the good work brother God Bless America!

[@Kornholeeoo]

You have a name that brings back memories here too! Kudzu grew wild all over the place where I grew up. Did a lot of rabbit hunting around that stuff. Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to comment and subscribe!

[@dannyrojas4221]

This just happened to mine. 17 rounds in and after that the trigger feels stuck. I haven’t opened it since I’m new to conceal carrying but I have a feeling this is what’s wrong.

[@Kornholeeoo]

If you don’t feel comfortable, take it to a gunsmith or to someone who knows their way around guns!

[@danielrobillard2162]

New subscriber here! Thank you for passing along the knowledge. Much appreciated from a newbie. Can I ask what ammo magazine loader are you using?

[@Kornholeeoo]

Thank you! I use the Uplula mag loader. They run around 40 bucks. You can find them at most gun stores or on eBay. Thank you for the sub!!! I really appreciate it!!

[@danielrobillard2162]

@Kornholeeoo Thank you sir!

[@onarampage247]

400 in 2 weekend thru mine and running like a champ

[@nycinkmaster]

no issues with mine but great vid, I will inspect mine.

[@ShaneKelley207]

Have put just under 500 rounds through mine(put a few mags through my subcompact p320 to compare) and have had no issues so far. fingers crossed haha

[@BenfromFlux]

This happened to my p365x every 2-3 shots when I first got it. I bent the end of the return spring into a bit of a hook and fixed it, almost 4000 rounds later, and a butt load of dry fire, and she’s still good to go. I love fixing guns.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Awesome! I love it too!

[@BenfromFlux]

@@erichauser725 mine was $500, but I agree. You shouldn’t need to fix any brand new gun. The rest of my P365s have been good, my backup to this pistol has 1100 rounds now with no failures.

[@alexbello8053]

USING THE SPEEDLOADER THE LAST BULLET ENTERS BUT DOING A LOT OF FORCE, I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE HAS THE SAME THING HAPPENS TO ME

[@coreysharp9794]

Yes it's very stiff. Mine are getting easier. I can now load 16 without the loader and have to use some force to get number 17 in.

[@tokin420nchokin]

It will break in, probably already has.

[@DMAN2582]

Have a question This is going to be my first purchase kind of looking for something that I might in the future concealed carry . Was looking at the macro and the hellcat pro trying to decide between the two What do you think? Also if you have any other opinions or something to steer me towards to take a look at I'd appreciate it Great video by the way

[@Kornholeeoo]

Hey. This is a great question and one I may not be able to answer for you as I have never shot a Hellcat. Only held one of the originals the week they came out. I was not a fan as it heavily relied on a mag extension for a full grip. The original P365 did as well, which is why I sold it too. Now the Pro model has a longer grip and I have a friend who is a Police Officer and he swears by the Hellcat Pro. It is his backup gun. He prefers it over the P365XL and states he has never shot the X Macro yet. Now this is the only information I have on the Hellcat from my experience and from others that I personally know and trust. I should have my Officer friend over one day and he and I can shoot each others gun. He could shoot the X Macro and I could shoot the HC Pro. It doesn’t answer your question for you and I’m sorry. Looking at the ergonomics of the HC Pro, it would appear to be a great gun to shoot. I can assure you the X Macro is awesome to shoot as the comp cutouts on the slide do work and they do help to keep the gun shooting very flat. Sight acquisition on follow up shots are very fast. The trigger travel is a bit long as most striker fired guns are, but other triggers can help. I have the MCARBO trigger and I added Sig tall sights to cowitness with my red dot. That’s all I’ve done. You can do this with the HC Pro as well I’m assuming. But the modularity of the P365 series is an edge up in my opinion and with the comp cutouts I’d have to give it the win to me, even without having shot the HC Pro. The Sig is amazingly accurate and it’s accuracy has impressed me quite a bit. But I would advise you to go to a range and rent both and shoot both if you want to see for yourself. I would hate to lead you to one or the other and you end up hating the gun, but I’d bet either would be perfect for carry. I know the X Macro is a great carry gun. So is the P365XL. I just found one in a LGS This weekend for a great price and had to buy it. I’ve had 3 XL models now. Sold the other two and missed them. Then bought the X Macro and it is my new all time favorite. The Glock G43X MOS is also a great option but it only has 10 round mags. You can buy Shield Arms S15 mags though. Great options today for smaller carry guns with higher capacities and I must say, Sig is the reason for this as they were the first to do it with the P365. Some people have had issues with rust but this is not the first time we have seen rust on carry guns that are not kept clean and inspected on a regular basis. I check mine weekly and have had no issues with rust in the past 40 or so years of daily carry with any gun. If you are betting your life on a gun, keep it in perfect working order. I hope you find the gun you want soon and get training on it and train regularly. Thanks for watching!!!

[@Asidebar]

I love my Hellcat Pro which has fired over 2500 flawless rounds.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@Asidebar I’ve heard a lot of good stories about the Hellcat Pro. I might have to get me one some day.

[@thebys11]

@Kornholeeoo I own both and will say the macro x is more accurate but less reliable it doesn’t eat all ammo. My hellcat is snappy but will eat any and all ammo! Never had an issue with my hellcat however my macro has failure to feed right out of the box.

[@AhmedShraim]

I just picked up the P365 X. Went to the range and put less than 100 rounds through it. The trigger won't reset and the slide won't reset all the way forward. Took it a part, cleaned it and tried again. Same problem. Called Sig and the customer rep acted as if he never heard of the issue before. Funny enough a client of mine about a year ago told me how his brand new Sig experienced that same problem. I owned over 20 hand guns and never experienced anything like this. Very disappointed.

[@Kornholeeoo]

That sounds like what mine did. We’re you able to get it apart and see if it was the return spring for the trigger?

[@AhmedShraim]

@@Kornholeeoo not yet. Didn’t have any time to mess with it yet. But PMA in gin doing so the next two days then hitting the range again before I send it back.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@AhmedShraim My other video on this gun shows the spring much better if you want to see it. Just scroll until you see it.

[@tedcollins4684]

This was the gun that was going to replace by broken s&w revolver that broke after 26 shots. Now I am not sure what company to look at now. CZ? Ruger?

[@Kornholeeoo]

Yes. That’s exactly what it was. I was able to get the spring tab back in its hole and no issues since then. This gun has become my favorite and it’s capable of some serious accuracy. The trigger is ok for carry but if you want a better one, they are out there. I think I will get the M Carbo but I’m not going to lower the pull weight. Mine as it is out the box is 6 lb pull consistently. But you do have to pull it a mile!!! 🤣🤣

[@gensanchez9535]

Already shot 600 rounds all together in 3 different times No problem at all Other than the Barrel gets really hot But I love my Sig X macro

[@mikec9636]

Was that trigger spring just an oversight on Sig before leaving the factory? I just bought one and will clean it and look for this issue. Thanks a lot for this video. Good joke as well! God Bless you brother 🇺🇸

[@Kornholeeoo]

It had to be. Mass production. God bless you too!

[@antiqueexcavator9403]

It fired twice before the malfunction. Would it have fired with the spring out of place??

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@antiqueexcavator9403 I may have fired once without the spring in place but not a second time as it wouldn’t have been able to reset. Before I fired it, I had tested the trigger pull and reset at least 10 times and everything worked fine. So I’m guessing the spring was caught on the return tab hole and just not seated in the hole.

[@antiqueexcavator9403]

@@Kornholeeoo that’s what I thought. But in the video it fired twice. Right?? Weird!

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@antiqueexcavator9403 It did. Initially I thought it jammed because I didn’t oil it or anything. Just took it out the box and shot it. But with mass production, there’s bound to be a miss here and there on assembly. It has worked flawlessly since then and I have over 1200 rounds through it now.

[@peters303]

Very rare malfunction indeed, good job for your fault finding and correction skills 💪🏼🇺🇸

[@Kornholeeoo]

Thanks.

[@great_deception]

First time I see this ever happen on a P365, must have not been seated fully at the factory

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@great_deception That’s what I was thinking too. Stuff happens. But it has shot perfectly since then.

[@tonyrogo227]

Very rare? Actually the 365 has had design problems since the pushed it out to the consumer. Wouldn't touch a 365 or 320 ever again.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@tonyrogo227 I get it. The firing pin had issues with the MIM mixture. They fixed it. The 320 had issues with drop firing. They fixed that. Glock has made 5 generations of their models and all supposedly fixed this or that. I’m not a fan of the P320. Looks funny. I LOVE my G45. But I have to say, this new X Macro is really nice. I carry my G45, my 4” 1911 and I also carry this X Macro now. It really is a great firing little gun.

[@mikepuskas-d8r]

Seems to have alot of issues it's a shame I like the specs and look of it I'll be sticking with GLOCK

[@Kornholeeoo]

I still have my Glocks too. But this has been the only issue I’ve had. Easy fix too. It’s an extremely accurate little gun too.

[@iOBSD]

I have a problem with mySig p365. When I shoot the p365, sometimes the slide does not come back into battery. It stops about 3-4 millimeters before being fully seated and the trigger won't pull back. It's happened around 5 times so far. Sent it back to Sig for repair and now it's worse than before I sent it to them.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Oh no. First question I have to ask is what ammo are you using? Store bought ammo is usually good for these guns. If ammo is not the issue, I’d make a short video of it and email the video to Sig. Second question is are you holding it tightly while firing? These small guns can malfunction with a weak hold. Assuming these are not issues, there is a problem with the gun and I’d send it back again and reference the video. Also assuming there is nothing lodged in the gun causing this. Check to be sure the trigger return spring is in its correct place. Sounds like what happened to mine. Let us know what you find. Hope you get it running soon!

[@iOBSD]

@@Kornholeeoo Thanks for your response. I will make a video or take a picture of the malfunction so I can show it to Sig. I use Speer Lawman and Speer Gold Dot and have never had issues with Speer in the past with my other guns. I'll check the spring although I'm not a gun expert by any means, so I'm not sure if I will be able to tell if its the issue. I hope it's just a weak recoil spring, so I can get back to shooting this gun. The gun shoots awesome(when it shoots.) Thanks ... I'll let you know what happens.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@iOBSD Yeah, I’ve used Speer many times and also have never had any problems with them. I have another video showing the spring placement on here. It may be helpful. But a company called MCARBO sells a trigger and they have a detailed video on installing their trigger and it shows where everything goes perfectly. Might want to watch that one too.

[@iOBSD]

@@Kornholeeoo Thanks!

[@lm-usmc]

Thanks for posting this. I'll be picking one up soon, and at least know what to do if it happens to me. I guess these aren't test fired at the factory?

[@Kornholeeoo]

I didn’t think to check for any residue before I fired it. There was no spent case in the box like we get with some guns. I’d have to say it was not test fired. But as I’ve stated, after I put the spring in its place, it ran perfectly. And it shoots really flat with the comp cutouts. Just have to be aware of the comp if you have to fire in your vehicle. Extend those arms and lean back or you’ll get a blast from that comp!

[@cdpc211]

I'm afraid to get one. I do not know what I am getting out of the box.

[@Kornholeeoo]

I hear ya. Normally I take each new gun apart and clean it before shooting. Rare occasions that I just shoot it out the box. But I had other stuff to do and time was limited so I shot it right out the box. When I buy a used gun, I ALWAYS take it apart and check everything out and clean it before shooting. I’ve found some crazy stuff people have done. Like changing springs for different weights and such. I just made a video on my Springfield Champion Operator 1911 and someone had put in a very light hammer spring and I had a bunch of failure to fires. Put in the correct weight spring and it runs perfect now. You just never know. I personally do recommend this gun. It’s perfect for conceal carry and with 17 + 1 rounds, it’s perfect.

[@Davidmoore-xy6wu]

I have had several and 4 out of 5 sig have been flawless

[@tedcollins4684]

@@Davidmoore-xy6wu That's still 20% failure rate!

[@YTMegiddo]

Sheesh, not what you want to hear for a carry weapon. "Ah, seems to be working now" BTW, great job doing a field repair!

[@Kornholeeoo]

Thanks. Just note it works perfectly now after I got the spring in its proper place. I have only speculation as to why it did this. Thinking the spring was like halfway in the hole or on the ledge? But I have about 1200 rounds through it now with zero issues since that day. Thanks for watching!!

[@Stay_at_home_rad]

Just picked mine up today. After dry firing I noticed mine will not fire on some instances. I’ll have to disassemble and clean it/ oil it but I sure home it’s just needing to be broken in. Has anyone else experienced this? It’s like the triggers over travel was set too much (if it had adjustments)

[@Kornholeeoo]

Some of the earlier P365 models did have this issue. Check the trigger return spring and make sure it is seated in the hole properly. I went ahead and put in the MCARBO trigger. Way less travel with it. They have a great video on install and set up. Thanks for watching!!!

[@truthtold9084]

I’m beginning to think sig pistols are garbage. I went to the range, rented a p365xl and the trigger went dead. It’s a nice gun but I wouldn’t depend on it.

[@Kornholeeoo]

This one worked great after I got that little spring in the right place. And I carried it for a while but got an offer on it so I sold it. I’ve gone back to my 1911s, revolvers and one Glock for my daily carrying.

[@tokin420nchokin]

Man unfortunately this can happen, I have never experienced myself owning one since March 2018 but I have heard of this happening. I own two so clearly it's not bothering me.

[@Kornholeeoo]

I have two Sig P365s. This one and an XL that I bought the X Macro frame for. I have 7 of the 17 round mags. But I also have a couple of Glocks, 1911s and 357 revolvers too. Don’t get me started on shotguns 🤣🤣. I always tell folks to buy what they want to buy. I don’t want to have people think I’m bashing on their guns of choice. Unless it’s a Hi Point. 🤣🤣🤣. I have a friend who loves Hi Points because he says he can afford them. And to be honest, they shot fine. But cleaning and disassembling them were crazy! And you better tighten up your belt cause they’ll drag your pants down.

[@tokin420nchokin]

@@Kornholeeoo facts man I'm the same way. I don't care what you wanna use to defend yourself but I sure hope you trust it. It's funny you say that because I too know of a guy that carries hi points on the whole concept they are cheap, and they go bang. I personally can't see getting behind that philosophy but if they are happy I'm happy.

[@leogurdiel4983]

For a new gun with rust problems on magazines and barrel flacking failure to feed , and now this ,what more can go wrong ,I won't trust my life on it

[@Kornholeeoo]

I’ve owned 5 of the P365s in various versions and I’ve never had issues with rust. But I do keep my guns clean. Now having said that, I went to my LGS just this morning and they had two used XLs. One had 3 mags and a Romeo Zero on it with the metal guard. And it was a reasonable price of $599. And he wouldn’t come off the price a penny. But…2 of the mags had a lot of surface rust and the gun was filthy and it appeared to have rust in the lands and grooves of the barrel. He also had an XL with just 2 mags. Both had the boxes and all the paperwork. But the second one was pristine condition and one of the mags was still new in the plastic wrapper. It had never been loaded. The second mag has slight marks from being loaded but no drag marks on the mag follower. You can see the tiny dent where it had been loaded but after shooting the gun, the follower will have drag marks where the slide rips the last round out. This one doesn’t have that. It’s possible this gun hasn’t been shot or if it has, maybe one mag. And they cleaned it because it is shiny. I bought it for $525 out the door and that’s what they were asking, so they paid my taxes on it. The problem with the gun in this video was simply the trigger return spring was not installed perfectly. I was able to put it back in properly and I’ve had no other issues. I now have close to 1500 rounds through it and there is no rust anywhere. Hope to get to shoot the XL this weekend that I bought this morning. No gun is perfect and no company is perfect. I am honest in my videos and if something is wrong, I will show it. But if something proves to be good quality, even thought there may have been a hiccup, I will also show that. The X Macro is a fantastic gun in my opinion and it is my daily carry about 95% of the time. I still carry my Glock G45 and my 4” 1911 sometimes too. I hope you find a gun that works for you because that’s what it’s all about. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it!!

[@johnviera3884]

You shouldn’t need to bring a punch to the range with a brand new $900 pistol.

[@Kornholeeoo]

I don’t disagree at all. But I have tools with me all the time. Plus it was quicker, easier and cheaper to fix it myself than send it back. It was just a spring that wasn’t set in place properly from the factory. Every company, no matter what they build, will have something like this happen from time to time. I’ve bought many guns in my 50+ years of shooting. Not the first time something like this has happened. I’m just glad it was an easy fix. I have over 2000 rounds through it now with no other issues at all. So I’m happy with it. I did buy another X Macro frame for my XL too. The 17 round capacity and grip frame are perfect. And I can easily hide them on my frame too! LOL. Are they charging $900 now? I got mine for $800. I’ve seen them at shops from $775 to $840 so shop around before paying $900.

[@damonsmith71712]

Great video. Way to trouble shoot at the range. Nice to see guys actually solve a problem rather than bitch about it.

[@mikec9636]

Thanks Kornholeeoo! I just subscribed to your channel.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Thank you! Hope I can keep up content you all like to see!

[@esteban1487]

Worth the money?

[@Kornholeeoo]

If you have an XL, just buy the frame and some 17 round mags. If you don’t, yes. Worth the money.

[@Chingon6969]

People who say polymer guns don’t need a break in period are objectively wrong. All guns do.

[@tedcollins4684]

Quality control sucks from all the major manufacturers these days. My S&W revolver broke after 26 shots, they have had it a month so far. I had it 2 days.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Aw man. That’s awful. I’ve always had good luck with S&W revolvers but I did watch a video on their production line and no one was using torque wrenches. I mean if you’ve been doing it for 45 years, you get that feel. But their frames were breaking at the point where the barrel screws into the frame. Might be related ya think?? I hope you get it back soon but I do agree. They use us way too much for Beta testing these days.

[@trojansky2348]

No issues with mine, 500 rounds give or take. But shit happens with all mechanical devices. Don’t ever tell me you never had Glock problems!!! 😂😂

[@Kornholeeoo]

🤣 I have had one Glock that had overheating issues. A 43X that when it got hot, the slide release stuck out like a quarter inch when it locked the slide back after the mag was empty. And the plastic around it was squishy to the point I thought it was going to permanently deform. Drop the mag and let the slide go home and the slide release tab went back like normal. Shoot another mag through it and it did it again. If I let the gun sit in the shade and cool down, it worked normally. But run 3 full mags through it and get it hot again and the slide release would stick out again after the last round fired. Never saw anything like it. Sold it.

[@theronfriss9153]

im running the baldr mini on my macro as well. have you found a compatible holster for this setup yet?

[@Kornholeeoo]

There are a few guys on the X Macro fan page group on Facebook that name some but I haven’t had time to check them out. I was thinking the holsters for the XL should fit because they use a pic rail adapter so it should work. Just haven’t tried one yet. I sold my XL and let the holster go with it months ago.

[@theronfriss9153]

@@Kornholeeoo unfortunately i dont use facebook

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@theronfriss9153 I hear ya. The ones I saw were from guys saying they have a friend who makes them or some local places. The legitimate companies I’ve used in the past were MIE Productions and WERKZ Holsters. They both make great products and I’m sure they’ll be making holsters for these if not already.

[@kakashi710]

Getting one soo n hope it doesn't happen to me thanks for the video

[@tjbroussard3524]

How is Sigs customer service?

[@Kornholeeoo]

I’ve had no trouble with them. Others have said they were great and others have said they are not. I called them about floor plates for some magazines once, they sent me some for free. They ship really fast and have answered my questions. I guess it depends on who you ask.

[@Diddley-js6lf]

Bad round I would say, I have 1000 rounds through mine with not a single issue. I use Federal Factory Ammo with not a single issue, but like any machine things can and do go wrong so it didn’t make me think twice.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Absolutely. I’ve taken it apart twice since this video and it’s still in its place. Not worried at all. I carry it now.

[@tomn5880]

I have the Sig P365 XL and 4 15 round magazines. If I haven't ended the fight by the 59th round the opposition will be out of ammo and I win by default

[@Kornholeeoo]

Positive thinking!!! I like it!

[@JohnSmith-ly2qp]

Hope they don't randomly fire like the 320.

[@coreysharp9794]

Those are false statements. Not one bit of evidence to back that up.

[@HonestTakesAll]

My X Macro quit working today during range event. Trigger just died. Looks like I may have the same issue. Not impressed. This is my carry gun. Was my carry gun.

[@Kornholeeoo]

We’re you able to get the slide off and check that spring?

[@Kornholeeoo]

I have another video showing the spring in more detail as well.

[@superrad1659]

*Question For EVERYONE:* What light do you like, or think fits/operates best on the Macro? Looking @ the Olight Baldr Mini, Streamlight TLR7(A?) Sub, open to any recommendations as well. New acquisition, doing my accessory rabbit-hole research lol. THANK YOU ALL!

[@Kornholeeoo]

Lots of folks going with the TLR. As to which version? I don’t know. But there are videos on here about it. Me? I’m an Olight fan. That’s all I own. But I like the BALDR S. 100 /800 lumens. You can change this with a double click of the switch. Green red or blue lasers to choose from and a few different colors to choose from too. People hate Olight because a few out there have burned up or blew up or something. I have been using Olights for 8 years and I own over 30 of them and have never had any issues. Some lights have been on my guns through tens of thousands of rounds too. But if you pick an Olight, every internet tactical operator will bash and hate on you every time you post a photo of it. 😂

[@superrad1659]

@@Kornholeeoo Lol yeah I've noticed the strong opinions from the reddit ninjas and such on Olight... dont have any myself but thinking about trying their Baton3max magnesium or the Arkfeld. Back to topic,im just researching, asking everyone and anyone for Light, Sight/optic, and Holster recommendations for the Macro.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@superrad1659 Awesome! I have the Holosun 507K with a the BALDR S and use a WERKZ holster. Hope you can get the information you’re looking for on here!!! Best of luck with what you choose!

[@superrad1659]

@@Kornholeeoo Awesome thank you! Whats the diff btwn the Baldr S and Mini? I'm leaning heavily towards the 507k-GR, maybe w/the ACSS Vulcan reticle if i can find it. Holsters I've barely looked, thought I'd wait til I got my light on.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@superrad1659 The BALDR S is just millimeters larger and has the ability to switch from 100 lumens to 800. You just double tap the switch. The Mini is just 600 lumens. Both have lasers. Both have two screws you can tighten to set the lock rail where you want it for your gun. The light is on its own rail and you can move the lights forward or backwards to fit your liking, then you flip the lock lever to set it. But every time you release the lever, there is a chance the light could move on the rail. So they have two set screws you can tighten so it won’t move when you remove the light and it’s an easier return to zero when reinstalled.

[@Supaxiro]

Very cool guy.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Thanks!

[@davidgaddes2107]

Everybody knows you clean factory preservative gunk out of a new gun an properly lube and inspect it. Why the hell wouldn't you do this first?

[@Kornholeeoo]

I explained why. Just got it. Had to work. Pressed for time. Was too excited and just had to go shoot it! Normally I do clean all new guns before using them.

[@tonyrogo227]

And people are calling this one the next Glock killer 🤣 On a serious note I'm sorry this happened to you and the money you spent.

[@Kornholeeoo]

It was a quick and easy fix. Just put the spring back in its little hole. Works perfectly now.

[@tonyrogo227]

@@Kornholeeoo I understand but this shouldn't happen to a new gun. Especially a new design that a company puts out.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@tonyrogo227 Oh I agree. Assembly line stuff still needs to be verified. But I did rack this gun at least 10 times before firing it. You’d have thought if the spring was just nearly seated in the hole, it would have come out before shooting but I guess it needed those two rounds to let it go. But it was an easy fix. I had a small pair of pliers in my truck and the spring end was easily reseated in its hole. No issues after that and I did run the other 248 rounds through it with no more problems. I’ve since out another 250 rounds through it and still no other problems so I’m confident in it now. Had a G43X that felt better in my hands than the P365XL. But this X Macro feels as good as my G45 and my 1911.

[@killervztwogaming5796]

@@tonyrogo227 it happened imediately. Clearly just an issue with factory assembly. Nothing to get your panties in a bunch over.

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@killervztwogaming5796 Exactly. That’s what I think too. It’s now my all time favorite conceal carry pistol.

[@SuperD00D]

Im sorry but in my experience berettas and Glocks never had this issue. My first Sig has been trash like this. See so many complaints. Ive had Rugers that needed to break in but it was maybe 1-3 mags and then they run flawless forever. Fuck Sig Im selling this piece of shit. The mags feel so cheap. Gun just sucks period.

[@Kornholeeoo]

I hear you. All it takes is one gun to ruin it. Honestly, I’ve owned 5 of the P365 series and this was the only one I actually liked due to the size and capacity. But I prefer my G45 MOS. It’s not much bigger and I shoot it better. But this one did run perfectly after I seated that spring. I’ve had some Berettas and a ton of Glocks and I agree. Never had a problem with any of those. Thanks for watching!

[@SuperD00D]

@@Kornholeeoo yeah and it’s just funny they are somehow regarded as the cadillac or sig of firearms world yet I feel like I’d get better reliability from a hi-point or taurus. Like yeah the sig feels better in the hand and the trigger is decent but this model has clear problems. My buddy who’s been in the airforce for 16 years edc’d the P365 XL since it came out, and said his macro has issues too. Sorry its been a bit since this morning when I watched, do you have the comp slide? My wife has the Rose and so far hers has behaved. I also like the comp because my Macro kicks pretty hard. Do the normal p365’s kick pretty hard? Ever shot +p? Its more than manageable with normal ammo but I couldn’t tolerate +p for more than one magazine, it hurts specifically my trigger finger. My wife has shot my Glock 23 and my friends Shield .40 with no complaints and hated +p even out of the Rose P365XL comp lol said it was awful shooting that +p. I told her not to even try my macro with the normal slide

[@ibsexplosion4178]

There’s a sign in every bathroom stall at Sig Sauer headquarters. The sign reads…..”Please flush twice…it’s a long way to the assembly line”.

[@3ull]

Never settle with guns that majorly malfunction when it comes to protecting your life with a pistol. Poor quality.

[@Kornholeeoo]

I do agree. But I don’t consider this gun poor quality due to this malfunction as it was a process error in assembly. Was it aggravating? Yes! But I’ve since put well over 3500 rounds through this gun with no issue. I’ve disassembled and reassembled it many times for deep cleaning and the issue never repeated itself. I am convinced that the malfunction was due to the spring not being seated in the trigger return bar’s little hole. Once I fixed it, ie. put the spring in correctly, the gun has performed perfectly. It is also extremely accurate for the barrel length. I’ve owned guns that were poor quality in either design or materials and sometimes you can fix those issues and sometimes you cannot. In my opinion, that was not the case here. It was simply an assembly issue and from what I’ve heard from some who watch my channel, it has happened to others but not on a large scale. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!!

[@JackedUpOnMTDew]

Me sitting here thinking about trading i my G43x for the X macro 👁👄👁

[@Kornholeeoo]

I’d still do it. All it was was the trigger return spring wasn’t seated in its hole and slipped off the ledge. Once I seated it properly, it’s run over 1000 rounds now. When it’s in its hole, it ain’t going anywhere. Just a little mass production slip on assembly. Could happen to any gun or any company. Nothing wrong with the gun though. I put 200 more rounds through it today. Hitting 6 and 8” round steel plates at 50 yards. Very accurate gun.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Love your screen name! LOL.

[@coreysharp9794]

You get more rounds, a thinner slide, optic ready and comped, and night time sights standard. That made me skip over glock completely. They make great firearms with a long history of success but it's time to do more like sig has.

[@Kornholeeoo]

It did have a standard lock under the foam. Also has some paperwork and a sticker under there too.

[@clutch2827]

Had no idea! Thanks.

[@richarddavis5221]

I got to get me one...

[@Kornholeeoo]

I just installed the suppressor height tall sights from Sig. Now they co-witness with my Holosun 507K. Went and sighted it it and was fooling around and hit a 200 yard target twice!! 😂🤪 I made a short video on it.

[@panioloprep8126]

I hope you were not at a public range. BUT if you were and they didnt throw your ass out for unsafe gun handling they should be closed. You pointed that gun in every conceivable direction. Col Jeff Cooper # 1 rule - EVERY GUN IS LOADED.

[@Kornholeeoo]

I"m very familiar with the 4 rules of gun safety and I list them every now and then on my videos and other social media. There was no one there but me, and the range is over a mile out in the middle of the woods. Had anyone else been there, I would have left and worked on it at home. So to be clear, it was pointed in a safe direction at all times. This particular range is down in a hole so to speak. Burms all around and even past the trees on the left, right and behind me. I literally have to drive down a hill about 20 feet to get down there. But thanks for your input. We all need reminders!

[@henrywhenryw812]

Thank You, after seeing the video i just decided not to buy it

[@Kornholeeoo]

That’s cool. I will say after putting the spring back in, it now has over 1500 flawless rounds fired through it. And it’s my new all time favorite carry gun. Every maker is bound to have a mess up now and then. At least this was an easy fix by putting the spring back in and seating it in the hole as designed. Love it so much I bought a used XL and bought this frame for it so it also can accept the 17 round mags. Hope you find what you want. Thanks for commenting and watching.

[@henrywhenryw812]

You make a good point, I have shot the gun in the range yesterday and it's a very good and easy to shoot ,yet your video with a lot of other videos about rust issues of the gun make a lot of second thoughts for me , Best regards

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@henrywhenryw812 No problem. I’ve also seen the videos on the rust but have not experienced it. Probably from IWB holsters and sweat. Would need a weekly rub down with oil cloth or after a hot day with a lot of perspiration for sure.

[@thegunshowguy]

Dont let one video make the decision for you, you'd be missing out on a good gun. I absolutely love mine. Thinking about getting an aluminum grip module just because I'm not a fan of polymer but I can live with it the way it is and wouldn't be upset.

[@cynthia6389]

Don't load it. The only way to make it safe. Ridiculous they are allowed to sell such an extremely dangerous weapon .

[@Asidebar]

Sig's quality control is not the best.

[@Kornholeeoo]

Yep. They let us consumers do most of the. ETA testing…

[@MachineGod69]

Sig quality has gone down hill in the last 5 to 10 years. There just not trust worthy anymore. QC needs to step up there game. Glock is still king of hill.!

[@Kornholeeoo]

I agree on the quality control part, per say, letting things out the door without proper testing, but the actual quality of their product to me is still high. Glock is still the standard, no doubt. At least that’s my opinion. My G45 is one of my all time favorites but I have to say this X Macro is my new favorite carry gun. No other issues since I put that spring in it.

[@coreysharp9794]

I've sent 2 glocks back out of box. Everyone's story is different. 3 sigs in a row have been flawless to me. Glock is the king of repeat, that's it.

[@MachineGod69]

@@coreysharp9794 that’s your opinion, and if you took 3 glocks back. Which I highly fucking doubt!! Than you truly are a wonder of nature. Like I said sig lost a lot of credibility with guns that just go off while holstered or dropped. Garbage in my opinion.

[@coreysharp9794]

@@MachineGod69 where's your comment big shot. Prove that the 320 goes off. I'll wait.

[@MachineGod69]

@@coreysharp9794 you can google it,Douche.

[@raydelfa1125]

Bull shit, I got 2 of them, zero problems!!!!

[@Kornholeeoo]

Well that’s great. I’ve had 3 of them with zero problems as well but this was caught on camera. I came to the range right after picking it up from the gun store and this was not a gun on show case. No one had handled it but me and the gun store owner and he only held it to verify the serial number. He held it for me when it came in so it wasn’t like it was handled or messed with. This was the first shots and it fired 2 rounds and then the trigger wouldn’t reset. I put the spring back in its place and it has ran perfectly since then.

[@tonyrogo227]

So your two guns means bullshit? Or maybe your bullshit for not looking at the design flaw of SIG guns. Always a sucker born every day

[@heathermurray-miller3778]

Just because you didn’t doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist…thank you to Kornholeo at least we are forewarned and know to call SIg should it happen. I love SIg, they’re very responsive.

[@wpsinc61]

Should have gotten the P320 - they fire all by themselves!

[@Kornholeeoo]

@@wpsinc61 🤣🤣🤣