SIG TANGO MSR 1-6x | 1-8x | 1-10x | Budget LPVO

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I have seen video after video of hate for LPVOs especially budget friendly optics. Even with all that I continue to buy them and try them because they still work best for what I need. I spend money where I believe it does the most for me and this is how you should approach the same subject yourself. Get out and shoot because ammo is where you should dump most of your firearms budget, nobody gets better putting the next Gucci gun together or buying the latest and greatest item. Time behind the weapon is king.
00:00 Intro
00:45 New Optics
03:41 1-6x Install
06:29 1-8x Install
07:06 1-10x Install
08:14 Sighting In

[@JukeBoxNuke]

I run the 1x10 version of this on a 12.5”. At 1x is very nice and while on the range the 10x helps me see my groups. Overkill maybe, but it works.

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This is one thing I think a lot of people ignore. The optic can be over kill and still have alternate purposes. I mostly shoot all 3 of mine on 1x but like having the magnification option available. I'm glad you have the purpose for yours defined and do what works best for yourself.

[@NEEZY69]

I am wanting to put the sig 1-10 on my 12.5, glad I saw this comment! Thank you!

[@caesarselfreliance.4081]

I don’t care what people say. Keymod is sexy and at this point nostalgic.

[@Gridiron53]

Awesome. I was wondering about those. I have a Sig Tango4 1-4x FFP on my son’s AR and it’s nice. I also had a Sig Tango4 3-12x42 (SO4001 I believe) that had the 556/762 reticle. It was a good scope and I regret selling it bc they discontinued it. The glass was good but the main thing for me was the eye box was great. Eye box (or whatever it’s called) is my pet peeve on a magnified optic bc I want to be able to see the reticle in unconventional shooting positions. So far the best LPVO I’ve owned for an eye box was the first gen Leupold VXR Patrol 1.5-4x. I sold it too bc the turrets were exposed and not locking and I had to check the turrets every so often bc they had moved from use.

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I have put 3 of these on my rifles to start working them and finding out what I like and don't like. For the price these are really good to me and I refuse to believe that everyone should budget an optic that is $1.5k+. Every optic has its place and everyone also sits behind their rifle differently and manipulate it differently. I'm a fan of LPVOs because my reasoning for them is to reduce my dependencies on batteries with a 1x option.

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My follow up video to this one will be more beneficial to you as I will run some drills switching out each rifle so I can see the difference in eye relief and clarity. If I can get it edited I hope to drop it right after this one.

[@Gridiron53]

Cool. Yeah I have two scoped rifles right now. My 16” AR15 has a Trijicon Credo 1-6x FFP which is pretty good for less than $1k. My 16” AR10 has a March Tactical 3-24x42 FFP. The March is sick but it cost more than my gun lol. The rest of my guns are Eotechs and Aimpoint PROs. All of my guns have back up irons for any optic failure. I had a battery die on an Aimpoint PRO in the middle of a barricade with a suspect and it just shut off without warning. I switched to Eotech bc the battery life isn’t as good but the Eotech will blink when you turn it on to indicate 20% battery life remaining. So far one battery in my duty rifle with the Eotech had lasted since February and it gets deployed several times a week.

[@eljeffe77]

I realize this is and older video, but my question is did you zero on full magnification on all the optics? Reason I’m asking is I just bought the 1-6x24 version. Thanks in advance for any reply. Great channel also!

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Yes all optics were zeroed on full magnification.

[@ttss5726]

Why they are ffp zero at 1 is the same at 10

[@paul2532]

Is there a big difference between 1x6 and 1x10 .. do they both look good at the lower power or is the 10 x different

[@X9Unsponsored]

They are fine at 1x. The max magnification is when the 6 is better than the 10 with eye relief

[@davidmedvec4409]

I’m trying to decide between the 1-6 and 1-8. Which would you prefer and why? Thanks bud

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1-6 will do most everything you need and is the most forgiving on eye relief. The 1-8 is just a bit worse on eye relief. 1-6 is cheaper as well from what I remember.

[@ordinaryavgguy]

Just got the Sig 1-6 for Christmas. After watching your video and another, I want to do a 36 yd zero (could never do 50 anyway because my range is only 130 ft). Another comment you said the BDC wouldn't help with the holdovers. Can you explain that more? Would you have to figure out your own holds based on your own data? I heard people complaining this BDC didn't line up well. Thank you in advance.

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Yeh, the holdovers are generally for like 100 yards zeros or something like that. With 36-yard zero being good to 300 yards roughly, you would want to get your own data for past that. The one thing you can still use them for is estimating distances when the BDC reticle. One day, if I can get to a long enough range, I would like to see what the reticle does myself.

[@ordinaryavgguy]

​@@X9UnsponsoredAwesome. Thank you for the advice. I'll be sure to hit up your merch store soon unless there are other ways to give thanks.

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@@ordinaryavgguy no need to do any of that. Information is free.

[@mattcohen8166]

Good info very low light couldn’t see exactly what you was doing

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Low light, I just want to go with nightvision. Flashlight and a hot suppressor gets smokey.

[@Kewchu]

55 seconds in and i had to stop to remind you to use a MICROPHONE

[@NEEZY69]

How would you compare the 1x on the 1-6 to the 1x on the 1-10? Thanks for the vid!

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The 1x doesn't feel to different to me between them only the higher magnification

[@nikkobrown421]

I like the brent 0311 soundtrack lol

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Googled what that was and I have never seen one of these videos. I'm sure lots of people use the same soundtrack website. Haha

[@gleamtarrest6310]

What kinda mounts are you running on the 1x6?

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These are just the mounts that come with the optics in the box. Never understood the craze with buying super high end mounts. I've had more optics go off zero from damage to the optic over the mount.

[@gleamtarrest6310]

​@@X9Unsponsorediwill recieve my Primary Arms SLX 1x red dot reticle today & going to put it through it's paces tomorrow.... I am thinking about LVPO on Ruger American 7.62x39... Primary Arms has their 1x6 for $199.00... but I am eyeing that Sig as well.

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@@gleamtarrest6310 lots of good budget options out there. Everything has its advantages and disadvantages. Practicing with what gear you run is the key.

[@ieladio3]

I like Lpvo’s

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They are very nice.

[@travisstorbakken1737]

I'm trying to find information on the marks for the bdc.... I can find the moa stuff but is there no information on what range the marks are for? Example: 200 yards with x grain bullet uses this mark. Or this line represents a 18" wide target at 200/300 yards?

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I know there is something. I'll look and see what I can find.

[@travisstorbakken1737]

@@X9Unsponsored I thought I saw a brief segment in a video and I can't find it now.

[@travisstorbakken1737]

@@X9Unsponsored found it.... mrgunsngear did a video about a year ago. He explained it and also explained in his shooting it is a bit off. He's not sure what barrel length it's set for but does give the data for what he was shooting.

[@ttss5726]

Why are we dressing up….

[@ikemouser2580]

Exps 3-2(ranging reticle) + removable vortex 6x magnifier. Come at me

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Love my EXPS 3-0.

[@ignaciosx]

at what distance did you sight it in ?

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I sight most of every optic at 36 yards. This is because I want it consistent for anyone who grabs it.

[@ignaciosx]

@@X9Unsponsored can I use the reticle on the msr tango, would the different holds work?

[@X9Unsponsored]

@ignaciosx they would only work for the appropriate sighting distance. I personally don't plan to engage passed 300 if possible, which is why I do 36-yard zero. The holds, however, allow you to range known target sizes like people, which is a bonus.

[@ignaciosx]

@X9Unsponsored thanks for replying! ... ok so I'm guessing It will have to be sighted in at 100 yards....

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@@ignaciosx I think that it what they say on the chart. That is pretty typical for using holds.

[@evanom117]

Voice was extremely quiet the whole time but overall great video!

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Thanks for letting me know. I am working on a new audio set up so hopefully that will help.

[@lancelandmark2233]

Cool content, like your gun room. Your 16" looks a little over gassed. Seemed like it was ejecting at about 2 o'clock. I could hear you loud and clear. Never know the mask might be a good thing in this crazy left world

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Most of my guns run a little gassy. I will change buffer springs and weights every now and then to tune them a bit more. Thank is for watching.

[@brucebehner4142]

I think you're kind of misunderstanding the powers of the optics compared to just barrel length and velocity. Yes, barrel length affects velocity, just like grain and caliber but not as much as the difference between the viewing distance of those differences in optics. Any 1-6 is perfectly fine for a 5.56 caliber. I run a 1-8 tango on an ar-15 just to be able to distinguish, not zero at 1000 yards, 1-10 is pretty crazy for an ar-15, maybe on an ar-10. You're not hitting one inch groups with a 5.56 at 1000yds, I don't care who you are.

[@X9Unsponsored]

This is very true. Each person has their reason for optics of different magnifications. I am testing these 3 optics out but I also want something easy for others to use. My wife requires more magnification than I do so I like to keep higher power available. None of these rifles are 1000 yards rifles nor am I a 1000 yard shooter. Haha

[@cspscas]

I run a cheap swamp fox but imma watch the video lol

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I should really try some of those out.

[@cspscas]

@@X9Unsponsored I run mine on a 308 build. For the money it’s good quality and has some nice features.

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@@cspscas 308 is something I don't run hardly ever. What rifle do you run?

[@cspscas]

@@X9Unsponsored it was an early gun purchase for me but it’s a Springfield victor 16”.

[@hurricane8634]

@Dude guy those came out not to long ago so what do you mean early.

[@chrisengstrom8247]

you didnt show anything

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This was a video to show what I'm going to be running. Each optic gets its own video. Is there something specific you would like to see with these optics?

[@michaelmoses7998]

Why are you dressed like you’re playing GI JOE? Hard to take this serious

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I take me hard to be serious.

[@coryb6722]

FR

[@p47rr]

Best to keep your face covered on social media.

[@theoriginaldashriprock]

WHAT? Can't hear a damn thing you're saying. And why is your face covered too? Kind of creepy.

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I'm just creepy. Sorry about the audio I'm looking until what is going on.

[@theoriginaldashriprock]

@@X9Unsponsored nah, just having some fun with you. But seriously, why cover your face?

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@@theoriginaldashriprock when I started this channel I worked at a defense contractor that was going woke. If anyone knew me I guarantee I would have been fired. Then they fired me over covid and refusing to vaccinate. Now I just continue the tradition.

[@bricketdabrown9607]

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