Sigma 16mm F1.4 vs Rokinon 12mm F2 | Which should you buy?

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Chris Brockhurst

Chris Brockhurst

Күн бұрын

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@nathanballard8582
@nathanballard8582 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Sigma F1.4 and am in the need of something a little wider for interior photography on a budget. This video with the side by side comparisons has answered everything i needed very in a informative and eloquently fashion. Big thanks!
@Leukick
@Leukick 4 жыл бұрын
The Sigma allows for much better image quality, but the trade-off is the Rokinon gives you that wider field of view for the APS-C cameras needed to do real estate photos/vids.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@MarioKarkalis
@MarioKarkalis 7 жыл бұрын
I had the rokinon too for just 1 month. I couldn't bear the manual focusing. I bought the 16mm the first day it came out without knowing anything about it. Just the fact that it was a 16mm 1.4 with autofocus for e-mount, did it for me! Nice review. I am your 254 subscriber
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Mario Karkalis agreed! No other lens on emount available that does what this lens does.. Sony should take note. Thanks for the sub, lots more content with this lens coming!
@authorizedauthority9725
@authorizedauthority9725 5 жыл бұрын
hey guys. i had both lenses but i sold the 12mm. I used it for real estate videos but the sharpness was too low. especially if you shoot on one of the a6000 series where you can only shoot in 1080p in 60fps. the 12mm is sharp in the middle but the edges are a mess. pause the frame when the two couches appear side by side. check that clock in the background. all mushy. If you have a camera like the fuji xt3 where you can shoot at 4k 60fps then its totally fine to use the 12mm. but for full hd i am only using the 16mm. of course you have to frame the scene different because of the not so wide field of view. but it works. cheers guys
@ryankelly7273
@ryankelly7273 4 жыл бұрын
do you still use the 16mm?
@authorizedauthority9725
@authorizedauthority9725 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryankelly7273 I am on the a7iii now. So unfortunately not.
@jacksondematos357
@jacksondematos357 6 жыл бұрын
man wow, please make more comparison videos. I have been looking at both of these for my sony a6300 and this video solved it. As a landscape photographer I'm going to go with the 12mm, manual focus isn't bad if you have the time like you said. the 16mm wasn't wide enough for me, 12mm is perfect. Thanks for the video and keep it up.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man, appreciate that. Exactly why I made this video so glad I could help. Any other lens comparisons you’d like to see?
@moundhir09
@moundhir09 7 ай бұрын
same here, manual focus not problem for landscape or Astro photography, at least its wide enough to capture more details
@chryseass.5143
@chryseass.5143 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, Chris what a difference almost two years has made to your channel - great to see how far you have come and boy, did you look rough on Jan 1, 2018! No more "boxing" for you!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
haha yep, had a nice big shiner. Channel has gone through some big changes, all good though :) appreciate you going back and watching the older stuff!!
@chryseass.5143
@chryseass.5143 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst Both the channel and you, Chris! It has been fun watching the channel grow! All the best for 2020!
@anaddictwithalens6686
@anaddictwithalens6686 7 жыл бұрын
Your points are very valid and dead on. In a photography perspective though, the 12mm would be great value. Typically wide lenses are used for landscapes or architecture. You would likely be using a tripod so you could use a slower SS. Your subjects would not be moving, so the autofocus would not be so needed. And 4mm is a huge difference in the wide end. 12 is 3/4th of 16mm. That is why I am getting the rokinon for my fuji x t20, over Fuji's 16mm f1.4 for now. For my intended use, the rokinon gives me wayyy more value. The Fuji 16mm Image and build quality would blow the rokinon out the water but it is 1 grand.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Justin's World agreed, for stills if you arnt moving too much the rokinon would definitely do just fine!
@wongpantai9710
@wongpantai9710 4 жыл бұрын
I have the xt20 and want to find a wide lens for accompany my 50mm f2, the rokinon maybe great but the manual focus is a hard pill to swallow, when you shot candid in the street and wanna keep the lens infront of the chest for low key mode without lift it to your eyes, is near impossible with manual lens
@themartin1c
@themartin1c 6 жыл бұрын
I've had the Samyang 12mm for nearly a month now and you're quite correct....I'm thinking of selling ti to buy the Sigma. I needed the Samyang for interior real estate shots but I've found that the photos are only usable on 5.6 and above when the focus is set to infinity. Even then, I've found that the images are still not as sharp as the 16-50mm kit lens.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
themartin1c that doesn’t sound right. Are you using focus peaking? Maybe you have a bad lens
@themartin1c
@themartin1c 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, focus peaking is on. I have also wondered if it's a bad lens as I would have hoped for sharper images than the kit lens
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
themartin1c sounds like it it. Mine was extremely sharp when I had it
@five18audio
@five18audio 4 жыл бұрын
Kit lens 😆
@rachvintage1990
@rachvintage1990 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree with you. I've used this lens For real estate videography and photography it's a so much Worse than kit lens
@MrKockabilly
@MrKockabilly 6 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of difference between 12 and 16mm. The 4mm "difference" doesnt matter much when we're talking at longer focal lengths, but it does as we go wider. Ex. while 104mm is 4% narrower than a 100mm, 16mm is 33% narrower than the 12mm though with both 4mm difference. Also there's a lot of difference between a 1.4 and 2.0, that's a full stop difference. Again best thing to do is do ratio (not just subtract the numbers) when comparing lenses. And thanks for the video, finally decided to get the 16mm with the autofocus and the full-stop advantages.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
MrKockabilly yeh the stop difference and autofocus is extremely useful
@richardpcrowe
@richardpcrowe 6 жыл бұрын
I will admit that the Sigma 16mm f/1.4 is one hell of a great lens. However, after playing with and handling the Sigma, I chose the Rokinon 12mm f/2 for my kit. I have gravitated from Canon crop and full-frame DSLR cameras MAINLY because I wanted a smaller and lighter kit which is also why I chose the A6500. I am not a fan of wide angle glass but, when I want a wide lens I WANT A VERY WIDE LENS. I chose the Rokinon because of the size and the weight which is in line with my other lenses... (30mm f/1.4 Sigma, 50mm f/1.8 OSS and the Sony 85mm f/1.8). The Rokinon is half the weight of the Sigma and I purchased a new Rokinon from Adorama for $249 USD while the Sigma lens runs $449 USD from the same vendor. Quite a difference but, not the deciding factor... Since I don't shoot video, the lack of auto focus on the Rokinon doesn't bother me in the last. It is quite easy to manually focus the Rokinon on the A6500 for stills.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Great points Richard, it really depends on if you shoot video, not having AF quickly becomes annoying if all other lenses have AF.. but for photos not a huge issue, especially for things like Astro where you would use MF anyways ✌🏻
@richardpcrowe
@richardpcrowe 6 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst I have been using my Rokinon for about a month now and I am very happy with it...
@davide36923
@davide36923 7 жыл бұрын
Great review! It's horses for courses. The Sigma is a very good video lens, the AF appears much improved over the Sigma 30 1.4 I used to have. The Rokinon 12 2.0 is definitely a great stills lens, when you need that little bit more coverage in close quarters indoors, churches museums. And great for astro. Manual focus not a problem with some practice. I use mine with Sony's clear image zoom which gives me 2X reach when needed.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! AF is speedy quick. Clear image zoom is key to focusing properly with MF, the trouble with the Rokinon is when you want to shoot wide open at F2 the focus range is very narrow, so you can focus up with clear image, but then if you move around even slightly its now out of focus. Agreed you can get used to it easily, but it was an annoyance after a whilst. Autofocus is a convenience!
@gurudeclan
@gurudeclan 5 жыл бұрын
The samyang seems to have less distortion but more flare.
@antonv.
@antonv. 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a nice video! I have the Samyang 12 mm and plan to buy the Sigma 16mm soon
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
you should, your love it!
@ricaaat
@ricaaat 5 жыл бұрын
What about the edges on the 12mm
@Cryonicity
@Cryonicity 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen both of these lens look great. I am looking for one that will do both landscape and astrophotography in a prime lens. Anyone got any suggestions?
@continentalgin
@continentalgin 3 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful video! Thank you so much! I was debating which one of these to buy. Now, I'm going with the Sigma 16mm F1.4 based on yours and others' recommendations.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@RockWILK
@RockWILK 3 жыл бұрын
Now that Samyang has autofocus, does that change things? Still f2, but really quite a bit wider. Hmmm...
@chryseass.5143
@chryseass.5143 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, I am watching this almost a year later. I have the Sigma 16 f1.4 although I am not using it much these days since the a7iii entered my life but I am glad that you mentioned how loose the focus ring is on the Sigma lens- I really would have preferred it to be a bit more resistant. As for the build quality, I think the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 is every bit as good. It seems everyone praises the Sigma but downplays the build of that Tamron lens- both are fine by me . The best lenses for build quality that I have are the Sony 90 f2.8 macro and my 70-200 f.4.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
crazy how this still gets views after a year haha, thanks for watching! I just re-bought the Sigma 16mm after selling it, really want the Sony 24mm F1.4 but its insanely pricey so making do with the Sigma for now for video. I have the Tamron too and the build quality is not as good as the Sigma, just something about it isn't as good..
@chryseass.5143
@chryseass.5143 6 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst Ah, Chris, you just don't like the Tamron! I still think you must have gotten a bad copy but I get it, some lenses just don;t work for you. I feel that way about my Sony 10-18 f.4; everybody sings it praises, but for me it is just, meh...... I am with you about lusting after the Sony 24 f 1.4 but the Sigma will have to do for now and who knows what 'goodness' will be released next year! Best wishes for an enjoyable, peaceful Christmas and all the best for your expanding family in 2019. Exciting times lay ahead for you, my friend!
@chryseass.5143
@chryseass.5143 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst Ha,ha , and now we both have the Sony 24 f1.4! You are so right- it seems to be a special lens and I can see why it currently stays on your camera body! I can't wait to try it out for landscape but I have been testing out its close focus and marvelling at the IQ straight out of camera. Now I understand what is meant by its images having a "cinematic feel."
@ifeanyi_maduka
@ifeanyi_maduka 4 жыл бұрын
But would the decision be the same if you already had the Sigma 30mm 1.4?
@StefanUrkel
@StefanUrkel 6 жыл бұрын
wait, i thought because of how wide the Samyang/Rokinon 12mm is, you don't really need the AF if you set to infinity?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
you definitely still need to focus unless its totally in the distance, otherwise it will look clear-ish but not sharp and it won't be focused properly. The infinity mark on the Rokinon isn't accurate either, its slightly before, so I just marked it with a sharpie.
@idhamhalim4715
@idhamhalim4715 4 жыл бұрын
what aperture is suitable for the landscape ? please
@loft4me
@loft4me 5 жыл бұрын
Good point about the manual being an inconvenience, especially for your type of shooting, and also because there are alternatives that do have auto focus. My Laowa 7.5mm is unique in its focal length and my vintage Minolta 50mm MC 1.4 is unique in its sharpness and speed for the money, hence the manual focusing on both is easy to overlook. Thanks Chris for the comparison and your thoughts on the Sigma.
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 3 жыл бұрын
why you reviewing the manual, when AF version is available?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the video date
@petehenshaw5620
@petehenshaw5620 5 жыл бұрын
I started with the Rokinon 14mm autofocus. I didn’t like the distortion with an ultra wide lens, so I sold it and now have the new Sony 24 mm 1.4. And I love it. I would think the 12mm distortion would also have greater distortion than the Sigma 16. Am I wrong?
@kl4mi
@kl4mi 6 жыл бұрын
I have a6000 and this lens brand new, and its very slow focusing, it needs around 3 seconds. And it keeps refocusing all the time even when nothing is moving. Could there be something wrong with the lens or am I doing something wrong?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
klami59 how sensitive do you have your focus set up? Shouldn’t have any issues like that to be honest.. it’s normally very quick
@kl4mi
@kl4mi 6 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst How do you set focus sensitivity? I am a beginner sorry.
@loft4me
@loft4me 6 жыл бұрын
Although I do not have any manual lens for my Panasonic GX85, I can see the advantage of auto focus in street photography, where often lingering with the camera to the eye can cause a self conscious subject to lose his or her photogenic qualities. My Sigma 16mm 1.4, bought off the Sigma website directly as a refurbished model, was $339 delivered. The only "used" anything ever bought, I cannot tell it apart from something new. Undoubtedly having gone through Sigma's rigorous refurbishment.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
great to hear. I sometimes think refurbs get more thoroughly checked than new ones!
@moonrisepictures7623
@moonrisepictures7623 7 жыл бұрын
My choice is really either getting 1 lens or getting 2 lenses. The Sigma 18-35mm is approximately $1,050 with the adapter. Buying the Sigma 16mm ($450) and the Sigma 30mm ($339) would cost a total of $789. I mostly do Short Films, Music Video and Advertisement. What do you recommend? is it worth getting the 18-35 for its zoom range for the aperture of the 16 and 30?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
great question - I don't own the 18-35mm Sigma but looked at it as an option vs getting the 16mm F1.4. From what I read, the autofocus isn't nearly as fast so thats a big negative for me and part of the reason I wanted the 16mm F1.4 in the first place (the AF is quick!!) For short films and the other stuff you could probably get away the 16mm for the wide shots and then the 30mm for the closer stuff, realistically all shots are going to be planned and shot then redone, so you can always swap lenses between takes, how often are you really going to be zooming mid shot? However as I mentioned in my other review of the Sigma 30mm F1.4, AF isn't 100% accurate and MF is not good on the 30mm F1.4. Maybe look at the Sony 50mm instead? Hope that helps! Thanks for watching.
@moonrisepictures7623
@moonrisepictures7623 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I already made up my mind I'm going to get the sigma 16 for its fast autofocus, I already owned a sony 50 which the autofocus is amazing but its focal length was tight in some areas. That's why I needed some wide to standard lens. Great video btw. keep it coming, Subscribed :)
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
great choice, between those two you have everything you need.. also Thanks for the sub!
@trentonharrisphotos
@trentonharrisphotos 7 жыл бұрын
18-35 best lens in my opinion for any crop sensor camera. It is very versatile and is super sharp.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
trentonharrisphotos however it’s double the price of this lens
@RewDowns
@RewDowns 6 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about just getting the a6500 base without the kit lens. Should I go for the Sigma 16mm 1.4, or Sigma 30mm 1.4. It sounds like the 16mm is probably a better lens, but maybe less versatile? Idk...I primarily do food photography so I need good bokeh.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
food photography... id go with the Sigma 16mm to be honest, it has a close focusing distance so you can get up close and then be wide too!
@Burzcasts
@Burzcasts 2 жыл бұрын
What about the new Rokinon AF 12mm >
@anoopammanath7462
@anoopammanath7462 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry watching it late. I am more in to real estate videos. So which one is better for shooting narrow areas and small rooms? Does the manual focus is a bother because you want all the scene in focus?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
If for photos the manual focus will be ok, but for video I would only recommend something with af like the sigma
@mailboxwing7713
@mailboxwing7713 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, wanna ask for your opinion for lens, I got a6300 with sel 18-135mm f3.5-5.6. I will be travelling in europe soon and mostly taking landscape. I think a wide angle is needed for taking those architecture and churches. Besides, I will be going for aurora too. Which lens do you suggest I buy? sigma 16mm f1.4 or rokinon 12mm f2? Thanks!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Sigma 16mm definitely! The auto abilities make it a much more run and gun lens. Manual focus on the Rokinon requires you to focus for every shot every time
@efromadler1390
@efromadler1390 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Samyang 12mm. Using focus peaking finding focus is easy. Further given the the huge depth of field almost everything is in focus from a few feet away to infinity even at f2.8
@TreaHuggs
@TreaHuggs 5 жыл бұрын
The 12mm will be better for landscapes and its half the price.
@uweyaa
@uweyaa 5 жыл бұрын
Better no meet EU! It is all danger, look the News, but the News no say at all.
@mystikmeg
@mystikmeg 6 жыл бұрын
What a quality comparison. Way better than most lens comparison videos.
@Ls3Atomicvette
@Ls3Atomicvette 5 жыл бұрын
I have a Sony a6000 and bought the Rokinon last year... looking at buying another landscape lens for a upcoming trip, I am wanting a auto focus and possibly image stabilization... is buying the sigma even worth upgrading to, or do you have any other suggestions thanks!
@strangedays871
@strangedays871 6 жыл бұрын
Chris, what's your opinion on the Voigtlander 17.5mm f0.95? Would you take it over the Sigma16?
@Tomiiruu
@Tomiiruu 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks for that video! Really useful!! got a question. Wich One you recommend for astrophotography? Thanks!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
The Sigma for sure!!
@Tomiiruu
@Tomiiruu 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst Thanks!
@nghiabuinhan2398
@nghiabuinhan2398 7 жыл бұрын
2:05 to 2:07 could I know how to create this effect
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Nghia Bui Nhan I’m assuming you mean the vertigo zoom? You have to zoom in as your moving backwards. Or zoom out whilst moving forwards, works best on a dolly or (in this case) on the zhiyun crane.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
which one will you end up buying and why?
@neogod29
@neogod29 7 жыл бұрын
Chris Brockhurst I already have the Sangyang 12mm. I'll probably buy the Sigma in the future.
@gersonmadrid6675
@gersonmadrid6675 7 жыл бұрын
I ordered the Rokinon 12 mm and three days later cancelled my order and bought the Sigma 16 mm. I am still waiting for delivery. I can't wait, I only wanted to shoot the Milky Way, however the Sigma 16mm will give me more options
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
it definitely will! remember to shoot in MF for the Milky Way and to find out where your infinity focus is before it gets dark!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Craig photo or video?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Adam Craig if it’s just for photo you might be ok with the rokinon if you don’t want to spend the extra money. You’ll just need to focus manually every time
@v1ce21
@v1ce21 6 жыл бұрын
Hi in a nutshell. The Sigma is a better overall lens? And the Samyang is only good in wide angle nature pictures?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
pretty much yep. You got it!
@HashMahmood
@HashMahmood 6 жыл бұрын
was wondering if you could give me some advice. I currently have a 16mm f1.4 sigma for my a6300 but was looking to add another lens to my collection. I was thinking about the sigma 18-35mm + mc11 adapter but I'm sure it won't balance on my zhiyun crane and I'm also worried about the auto focus and shaky-ness. I like to create cinematic visuals and travel cinematic. would the sigma 30mm f1.4 be the best option or would you recommend anything else?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Sigma 30mm f1.4 is apparently way better with the update now. That will be a heavy setup if you go for the 18-35, also. When you use anything that isn’t native Sony glass you are going to get a lesser performance with AF in video, just something to be aware of.
@zakyabdellouche2525
@zakyabdellouche2525 5 жыл бұрын
Please how can I have the template in the intro ?
@ClevelandTerry
@ClevelandTerry 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was just looking at the rokinon but now I think I’ll go with something else. I like that sigma is finally making M43s
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Cleveland Terry Bowens thanks! Yeo sigma is definitely stepping it up. The rokinon is really nice but MF isn’t for everyone
@michaelnrg11
@michaelnrg11 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man.. Im about to buy one of those and I can not decide... mostly need it for photography not videography. I want to shoot close up creative consept so af is not a big issue, which one do you prefer most
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
Sigma
@MrFirstdance2000
@MrFirstdance2000 5 жыл бұрын
Bought the Sigma 16mm for my G9...What a gorgeous lens for photography!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
Wide is the best 😊
@DunawayCreations
@DunawayCreations 6 жыл бұрын
How do these two compare on sharpness and overall optical quality?
@zach_blackburn
@zach_blackburn 7 жыл бұрын
What is the difference between the Contemporary and Art series of lenses?
@mariuskc7037
@mariuskc7037 7 жыл бұрын
I have the samyang 12mm, but seriously considering getting the Sigma...The samyang is my first full manual, and I just HATE using it. I'm a video user, always on the Zhiyun Crane v2. My shots arent always in focus, and it sucks to use manual when moving around with a gimbal. And to get everything sharp, I have to use a high aperture whhich doesn't work for me since I shoot lots of low light.I love the 12mm though, perfect wide focal Length.Is the Sigma 16mm worth it?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
+Marius KC yes! You wont regret it. I used the Rokinon (which is the same) on a Crane for a few weddings this year, footage was nice but not always 100% focused because it was manual. Looking forward to using the Sigma instead this season, check my latest video, using the Sigma 16mm F1.4 with the Zhiyun Crane.
@DennisMeetsWorld
@DennisMeetsWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Sigma 16mm is weather sealed too, where the Rokinon/Samyang is not. Excellent comparison video ✌😎
@raymondchen6906
@raymondchen6906 5 жыл бұрын
You mentioned in a later video that you ended up selling the Sigma 16mm. Can you elaborate more on why you sold it off? Was it because you stuck with the Rokinon 12mm F2?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
great question. Once I got the A7iii and the 16-35 and now the 24 I really didn't have a need to shoot wide on APSC, I do all wide shooting on the A7iii. It's still a fantastic lens and my fav on APSC, just don't have a need for it so figured I could utilize the money elsewhere
@pavel7078
@pavel7078 7 жыл бұрын
can you test pdaf zone on a6500? Sony is limited AF for other brand lens and PDAF working only in 2 cental zone.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
sorry not too sure what you mean?
@pavel7078
@pavel7078 7 жыл бұрын
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@travis.stevens
@travis.stevens 6 жыл бұрын
I wish you made this video before I got the 12. Manual focus is a pain. Will either be getting the 18-35 1.8 or the 16 1.4.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Travis Stevens get the 16mm, you will not regret it. The 18-35 will require a mc-11 adapter, more $
@danieleandronico8391
@danieleandronico8391 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, good work on the comparison! I bought the Rokinon 2 months ago but I still don't understand if I got a defective copy and maybe you can help me out! The lens isn't on focus when it's set all the way to infinity, I always have to go back a little, which seems weird!? Also when open wide at F2 and set to infinity, the footage appear blurry in the center when close to subjects (1-2 meters). Did I get a bad copy?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
yeh my infinity focus was always sightly before the mark. I just added a sharpie mark to where it was to solve the problem. Cant say I ever had issues with the centre being soft at F2 though, do you use MF assist to check the focus? If not try that, if after taking the image and focusing properly its still soft it could well be a bad copy. Where did you buy it?
@danieleandronico8391
@danieleandronico8391 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying. I tried with MF and still soft. Sent it back to Amazon! Thanks again for your help!
@margiev_aslan
@margiev_aslan 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very good review and channel! I ordered a Sigma 16, to replace the kit, but now I began to doubt whether my pictures would be much better? Can you please tell me if I choose Samyang 12 for landscape photography, nature, whether there will be a difference as a picture (color rendition, contrast) with Sigma 16. Help me please, where is the picture better? Maybe I kit will be enough
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Aslan Margiev kit lens for pictures is overall not good. Image quality is poor. If just landscape photography and you have time to focus then the rokinon may be enough for you. If you need quick run and gun with autofocus go with the sigma
@margiev_aslan
@margiev_aslan 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the answer!
@margiev_aslan
@margiev_aslan 2 жыл бұрын
@Montañero Paisa I am didn’t used 12mm , but I am happy with Samyang 14 with Sony 7 ii !
@MrTechGamer2000
@MrTechGamer2000 6 жыл бұрын
What are those red things attached to the side of your camera?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Peak Design camera strap system, the best money can buy in my opinion
@MrTechGamer2000
@MrTechGamer2000 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Brockhurst I’ll have to check it out then thanks a bunch, cheers!
@AwesomeKicks
@AwesomeKicks 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison! Really helped me to decide. I have one question if you don't mind: I have the A6000 which has no in-body image stabilization. Will the footage be smooth when I shoot video with this lens attached to my A6000 and Zhiyun Crane v2? I don't like micro-jitters so it's really important that the footage will come out smooth. Does the a6500 stabilization help much, or is it negligible? Do you recommend this lens for A6000 -users? Would love to see a comparison with this lens and a gimbal, where you show us how much difference the IBIS does.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Adrian D Thanks for watching! I own both the A6000 and A6300 (both have no IBIS) and use both on a zhiyun crane regularly with absolutely no jitters at all. The shots in this video comparing the two heading towards the couch were on the crane. I’m going to do some crane videos with the Sigma lens soon.. something cinematic, so will have a test for you in a few weeks
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Adrian D in the meantime, this is a wedding I shot kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWa9doqbl856rZo with the rokinon and the crane. No jitters at all
@AwesomeKicks
@AwesomeKicks 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Looking forward to that!
@SocietateaAscendenta
@SocietateaAscendenta 5 жыл бұрын
What about setting the FOCUS on the Rokinon on infinity and film that way? No need for AF...
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
set to infinity and anything about 2 feet in front of you should be good to go!
@cantkeepitin
@cantkeepitin 4 жыл бұрын
Would not work at low F!
@juan-3451
@juan-3451 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Salva - your welcome, thanks for watching
@diyardashti8996
@diyardashti8996 6 жыл бұрын
Which lens was this shot on?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
I believe it was shot on the kit lens (Sony 16-50 PZ)
@Internetlo
@Internetlo 6 жыл бұрын
Which one performs better with astrophotography?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Both are great, for Astro you want to use manual anyways so the Rokinon is the cheaper option!
@TreaHuggs
@TreaHuggs 5 жыл бұрын
Look up videos and reviews. I was torn between these two for astro but I went with the Rok because of its low coma and low CA. The Sig has to be stopped to about 2.8 to start to get rid of star trails. Also with astro you want a wider angle to get as much view in the picture as you can. If you main focus is going to be astro get the rok, its cheaper, preforms better, and you dont have to worry about autofocusing messing up your shot ;). Just do more research so you can see, there are a few comparisons out there for these. There is a reason everyone in astro talks about rok 12mm.
@SocietateaAscendenta
@SocietateaAscendenta 5 жыл бұрын
@@TreaHuggs What does this mean, please: "Rok because of its low coma and low CA"?
@infinitenaff
@infinitenaff 5 жыл бұрын
Less chromatic aberration. The colour fringing, if you're more familiar with that.
@WidescreenContent
@WidescreenContent 7 жыл бұрын
Will get the samyang in a few days and see how I like it. I already have 16mm AF OSS with the kit lense but want wider. Music was a bit to loud some times other than thet great video! Keep it up
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for watching and the feedback about the music. The 16mm kit lens is ok for video, as long as you shoot 4K IMO. But the Sigma 16mm blows it away for low light and bokeh. Try out the Samyang and let me know what you think, its the same lens as the Rokinon! I bet you will be wanting the autofocus after a while.
@radomillion
@radomillion 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that you don't have thousands of subs. I love your reviews! They're straight to the point with good photo comparisons.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Conrad thanks man appreciate that! Takes time but I’m getting there
@waqarmahmood7751
@waqarmahmood7751 4 жыл бұрын
Can you use this lens on the a7iii.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 4 жыл бұрын
Yep in crop mode
@ninipanini809
@ninipanini809 6 жыл бұрын
Hi! Will this work in Sony a5000?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
it will! great lens for the A5000
@mejlik2348
@mejlik2348 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I wasn't decided until I saw that sigma's distortion in the side-by-side couch shot :D Other than that it's still pretty fun lens tho
@smalltalk2u
@smalltalk2u 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review, very helpful
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@rickh8137
@rickh8137 6 жыл бұрын
AMESOME VIDEO! LOVE THE COMPARISON SHOTS.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers for watching. Which one you going to get?
@rickh8137
@rickh8137 6 жыл бұрын
I was going to get the Rok.. But now I am getting the Sig... However the price hasnt dropped at all on the Sig.. So I may get the Pan 25mm 1.7 in the interim...
@ElRealista.
@ElRealista. 6 жыл бұрын
Why is no one doing a comparison against the rokinon/samyang 16mm f2.0. I have it and it has even less CA problems than 12mm and I think it is the most fair 16 vs 16mm
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Good question!
@ElRealista.
@ElRealista. 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Brockhurst have you checked it? I think it is because is APS-C lens, but sigma too. I bought the samyang 16mm f2.0 at only 170 dollars in a good discount in Amazon. I was looking for the sigma but it was a huge difference for my budget.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
I haven’t, I actually ended up selling the rokinon 12mm to purchase the Sigma 16
@raffipanular771
@raffipanular771 5 жыл бұрын
Better rokinon 12mm or tokina 11-16mm?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
Haven’t used the tokina so cant make a fair statement, sorry!
@raffipanular771
@raffipanular771 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst no problem chris
@thebat452
@thebat452 7 жыл бұрын
My sigma 16mm is coming in this week, can’t wait.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
It’s worth however long it takes to arrive.. have fun with it!
@ciepularys
@ciepularys 6 жыл бұрын
Just so everyone knows - Sigma C 30 mm 1.4 got a firmware update few weeks ago and manual focus works awesome!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
ciepularys I have heard this from a few people.. think I’m going to have to re-buy and try it out
@ciepularys
@ciepularys 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Brockhurst i upgraded mine yesterday. It works now! :)
@stefanschutt8358
@stefanschutt8358 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Video,I am looking for a lens for the a6000 landscape.Greetings from Germany :-))
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Stefan Schütt it's a great lens for landscape photogrsphy, sharp through all apertures, Thanks for watching - Germany's fun, I visited europaparks years ago!
@stefanschutt8358
@stefanschutt8358 6 жыл бұрын
ok thanks
@stefanschutt8358
@stefanschutt8358 6 жыл бұрын
Chris, I have family in Canada and was in Alberta in the summer of 2017. I have a question is the Rokinon not so good for Landscape ?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Stefan Schütt the rokinon will be great for landscape too, if you have the time to focus it properly. The infinity marker (which you want for landscape photography) isn’t accurate so you’ll want to figure out the infinity focus point yourself and maybe mark on the lens where is it. You can do that with focus peaking
@MiguelScott_____
@MiguelScott_____ 10 ай бұрын
Buena reseña. Gracias por la información
@yxyanxiang8100
@yxyanxiang8100 7 жыл бұрын
I have the rokinon 12... the focal length is just great. Probably will buy the sigma 16 soon
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
yx yanxiang yes! Do it!
@ElricX
@ElricX 5 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the Rokinon. I'm happy with it so far for both photos and video. For $249 new there's not much to complain about but yeah that Sigma sure looks great! If it was stabilized it would be top of my next purchase list.
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
its a crazy lens for that amount of money it costs, a great entry level wide too before you need AF
@iluvyunie
@iluvyunie 6 жыл бұрын
this is so useful for me right now
@gonzmiranda1523
@gonzmiranda1523 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Thanks!
@Mr.Musky69
@Mr.Musky69 6 жыл бұрын
Sigma is super sharp. However I couldn't get past the motor noise when recording :(
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
It definitely is loud.. depends what you are using it for though, with music over too you can’t tell 😎
@theundeniablewillofsurviva7598
@theundeniablewillofsurviva7598 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst That's why I use the Sony 18-105 as my second video lens...
@Eduardo-uo1rt
@Eduardo-uo1rt 3 жыл бұрын
Great vídeo 👌👌 I have the samyang, I do indoor photography, but sometimes everything doesn't come out in focus, I don't know if I should change it for the sigma, but I don't know if I will fall short with the 16mm.
@inmobiliaria105arequipa4
@inmobiliaria105arequipa4 3 жыл бұрын
where can i watch your photos?
@SavageScientist
@SavageScientist 4 жыл бұрын
i just purchased the sigma and a6400 im impressed
@timothy790110
@timothy790110 4 жыл бұрын
why do you have a black eye
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 4 жыл бұрын
boxing.
@martinusjr7654
@martinusjr7654 6 жыл бұрын
well done my friend thank you for the the great video
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@TMEZ
@TMEZ 6 жыл бұрын
Sharpness ?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
TechMadeEasy what’s your question?
@kevindavis1484
@kevindavis1484 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this kind of review. Thank you!
@superinfinityfilms
@superinfinityfilms 6 жыл бұрын
the rokinon 12 looked way cleaner than the sigma 16
@Bthefilmer
@Bthefilmer 4 жыл бұрын
haha, you said here's the autofocus for the rokinon and my stomach dropped cause I looked for one for a while. I do love the sigma because of the autofocus but like the sharpness I get from the rokinon.
@ryanlin6523
@ryanlin6523 6 жыл бұрын
nice work man
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
thankyou!
@Xenonox
@Xenonox 7 жыл бұрын
I‘ll stick to the 16mm. The Sigma‘s bokeh is just so amazing!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Xenonox agreed! The Bokeh is beautiful, with the autofocus too it’s unmatchable for anything else on emount
@Jessgreenemedia
@Jessgreenemedia 6 жыл бұрын
son of a gun. where was this video before I bought the 12mm. lol. what happened to you is exactly what happened to me, looking now to possibly sell my 12 to get the 16 cuz im in love with the footage ive been seeing all over youtube! Great video bro, subscribed! Keep em coming!
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
Wide Open Aperture Productions yeh man it’s a great lens, shame Sigma didn’t come out with it sooner! The autofocus alone is enough to want it. Sell that rokinon and put it towards the sigma, you should still get a couple hundred for the rokinon
@craigmcivor3034
@craigmcivor3034 4 жыл бұрын
NIce video. Good job.
@cheat123
@cheat123 6 жыл бұрын
i hear the 16 is the sharpest there is on the a6000
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
I could definitely believe that
@hamasf6625
@hamasf6625 7 жыл бұрын
interesting glass, why sigma not make it smaller..
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
Kotaro Minami high quality primes with larger aperture like this are typically bigger lenses.
@ChangeOrBeCrushed
@ChangeOrBeCrushed 5 жыл бұрын
did you get beaten up?
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. The things I do to get good video!
@ChangeOrBeCrushed
@ChangeOrBeCrushed 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbrockhurst good boi
@kizsoer
@kizsoer 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
thankyou!
@ShowmotoTv
@ShowmotoTv 5 жыл бұрын
I've got this 16mm sigma its beautiful lens for my daily vlog.. New KZbinr here support this channel ❤❤
@Complecx
@Complecx 3 жыл бұрын
autofocus test = instantly splendid video
@James-dy6zh
@James-dy6zh 7 жыл бұрын
The rokinon pictures look a lot better than the sigma
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 7 жыл бұрын
If you like wider shots then yep.
@jamesrwatt
@jamesrwatt 5 жыл бұрын
Focus on sigma 30mm is fixed in a firmware update
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 5 жыл бұрын
So I hear!!
@davidwallis494
@davidwallis494 6 жыл бұрын
you should buy the Laowa :P
@chrisbrockhurst
@chrisbrockhurst 6 жыл бұрын
David Wallis not familiar with this lens.. will have a look!
@davidwallis494
@davidwallis494 6 жыл бұрын
the zero-d lenses are outstanding
@BboyHell1992
@BboyHell1992 5 жыл бұрын
Thx
@Ashleyapples
@Ashleyapples 3 жыл бұрын
the sayang has AF!
@mytube2013
@mytube2013 3 жыл бұрын
Today the 12mm is only $175
@karimnasser9226
@karimnasser9226 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this video, however I don't understand the purpose of this video, these are two lenses with very different focal lengths, one is auto-focus the other manual, one is f/2 the other f/1.4, one is AF the other manual. It's like comparing a TV to a dishwasher, ok maybe not. Lens manufacturers release primes with 2mm differences to fill a gap in their line up and here you're comparing lenses with 4mm difference! No image quality was tested, which is an essential aspect of a lens if not THE most essential, also using a manual lens on a gimble would negate the gimble entirely due to your hand movement while you're focusing. As far as which should I buy? Well if I need the 12mm then I will obviously buy the 12mm without even considering the 16mm, AF or not. If I don't need the 12mm then I wouldn't need to compare the two. I think it is best to compare lenses with similar features, with a max 1mm difference, both AF or both manual, both similar aperture (1.4 vs 1.8), etc..
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