Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG DN Sport Review: It's FINALLY here!

[@rpgroome]

I find it somewhat disturbing that over the course of over four years neither of you changed clothes even once.

[@omegasquadflame2330]

100% 🤣🤣

[@youtubemid]

Not disturbing its a unique identity of dp ❤

[@smokey62productions99]

It’s a Canadian thing

[@martyz3170]

I find it disturbing that you thought this video is about fasion, get a life.

[@Relativity_Space-SFS]

@@martyz3170 i find it disturbing that u cant understand a joke. get a life

[@lionheart4424]

That intro was hilarious! This having an aperture ring makes me hopeful that Sigma will release this for Fuji X Mount sometime next year.

[@zachlyons]

If it had come out a year and a half ago, when I first got into the Sony system for shooting sports, it would've been super tempting, but the first-gen Tamron 70-180 I bought being still good enough optically and way lighter doesn't have me itching to switch.

[@CikguSyawqi]

Would you say that the Tamron G2 has upgrades that make it worth more than its G1? I'm looking to get the Tamron, and the difference in price is between G1 and G2 is quite a lot here in Malaysia.

[@ilovekettlechips]

​@CikguSyawqi the g2 is very sharp, definitely exceeded my expectations for both photo and video

[@ForOrchestra]

I just purchased the Panasonic 70-200 for L-Mount assuming that Sigma was going to delay this glass again and again. I’m still within my return policy, so looks like I’ll be a new Sigma owner next month. Perfect video!

[@camdenisrael]

How do you like the aigma 70-200? If you did buy it. Looking to buy it myself for e mount

[@stilltimemedia]

you guys rock, thanks for the years of knowledge you've blessed us with. It has helped me and my business grow. Much love from Columbus, OH.

[@krwroblewski]

Colors and framing in this video is just outstanding ❤️🔥

[@Dhuxul9]

Sigma is doing incredible work

[@snowwalker9999]

I agree with you. I prefer the Tamron smaller and lighter. For what I want to do 20mm isn’t a big deal. For more reach one should use the 100-400mm.

[@nathanmorgan3647]

Or the tamron 50-400 for that added versatility

[@framerate3x3]

My arms are finally saved. I've been using the EF version for so long. It was so ridiculously heavy for a 70-200. It was unusable for weddings because with the adapter it was so unweldy on a sony body.

[@greatpix]

One thing I'd like to see in lens tests is how they treat colors. Using the same camera body and light source as a base, you can shoot a MacBeth/X-Rite or whatever their name is now, accurate color chart and use the eyedropper tool in your photo editor to compare color channel levels. Or use yout test chart as long as you don't have to fear colors fading with time. Back in the '80s and '90s I was managing a pro camera store in SoCal and was interested in how camera lenses treated colors. Canon and Leica lenses were known to give beautiful reds in images back then. The store carried Tamron, Sigma and other brand 3rd party lenses and one day I decided to test them shooting a scene outside the store that had a while wall and a grey wall. Now these results are from optics from 30-40 years ago and don't compare to what the manufacturers are producing today. I found the lenses did have their own color characteristics, Sigma having a distinct green cast while the others were more pleasing in color being perhaps warmer or cooler in tone. I don't know if such a color test is even possible considering the digital path with sensor/lens/software making a difference. (I say software because Nikon's software always gave me what I considered the real 'Nikon' look, especially in the blues and greens. I'm retired from photography, working in a camera store or shooting professionally and because of health issues I don't leave the house much either. (BTW, watching your on location videos makes me feel like I'm getting out of the house for a few minutes. Thank you!) Sorry for the long post but heck, I've got nothing but time on my hands and I also used to write articles/reviews that were photographic and computer centric so the 1K-2K piece or more size is sort of normal for me.

[@Santiago-ys2pp]

Me encantó su comentario, suerte y recuperese lo antes posible, señor.

[@CsendesMark]

14-24 was an amazing lens!!! I LOVED IT. Hope they will release all "modern" ART zo Z too.

I used the EF version adapted to L mount for a long while but eventually sold it, as for video the massive amount of focus breathing at the long end was a bit much, it was also colossally heavy at 1800g. I 'm glad to see they've improved it all for the mirrorless versions, I've been living without a long lens deciding whether or not to get a Panasonic or not, but this looks great. I wish you could get the Tamron for L mount though.

[@ajasont]

I just got the Tamron 70-180 G2, and was afraid that I would feel silly for missing out on this. Now I don't feel like I missed a thing!

[@EliudGilSamaniego]

the tamron looks so much more sharp, and half the weight

[@bala1000mina]

Thank you so much Chris, very helpful and informative review! Good luck!

[@LukeAntunes]

Great intro! I like that you compared it to the Tamron quite a bit as that is probably the closest other option IMO. Thanks for sharing!

[@SlavGuns]

awesome! Seems like a no brainer for L mount!

[@waleednt7759]

Where to find Chris's jacket?

[@97nelsn]

Well, I’m ready to give sigma my money again! Then again, their 24-70mm 2.8 has been my breadwinner so of course I’ll be getting this along with their 50 and 85 1.4

[@pgy8863]

I already have the Tamron (where have you been Sigma?) But if I had to choose again, I'd choose the Tamron again because compactness rules. That being said, on Sony bodies, having an aperture ring transforms the shooting experience. So Sigma, are you going to do a newer version of the amazing 24-70 with an aperture ring and maybe a little Slimfast treatment?

[@Zay-DHD]

I agree 100% with the lack of buttons on the Tamron. I shoot sports primarily, but weddings too. So many times I wish I could manual focus or custom focus my shots for very important moments. I'd now consider selling my Tamron to purchase the Sigma 95% because of the button functions it offers

[@ekjellgren]

I always thought A on aperture dial should be on the lower A number side of the scale. Seems more natural to me..

[@MLee-vcrr]

Great review guys. Thanks for mentioning what materials the lens is actually made from, so many reviewers fail to do this.

[@mikegustafson6679]

I've said it a few times already but... I love you guys.

[@JSS75]

I’m very happy to see this finally released, I also have to ask Chris, what wrist strap are you using? It looks great and I’ve seen it recently in a few of your videos. Thanks!

[@niccollsvideo]

It’s the Wotancraft wrist straps and I do absolutely love them!

[@JSS75]

@@niccollsvideo thank you, as a fellow wrist strap fan like you (learned from you) I have to ask about the good ones!

[@geraldundone]

👍

[@TheIanGlover]

What would be your choice, the sigma or a sony 70-200 gm1?

[@nathanmorgan3647]

Would like to see a full performance and value comparison between this Sigma, Tamron 70-180 g2, and especially Sony 70-200 F4 g2 "macro".

[@gtslaw]

This really is what we need to see. Price wise they are all comparable, and while you lose some focal length with the Sony you gain so much in terms of expandability and being in the Sony ecosystem.

[@brianlemke6017]

Silver Dragon, yup, best dim sum in Calgary. Chris, don’t hesitate. Pick up the Nordica HF 110 or 120 boots. Your feet will fall madly in love with you.

[@deanmoriarty6100]

Thank you, I was waiting for this review. Now I know Tamron G2 seems to be a better choice for A7IV and I hope for some promo price on Black Friday.

[@brianlovelace]

The music had me in stitches. So dramatic and epic... and FOR GOOD REASON.

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

how about a revisit of your "70-200 f/2.8 battle"? Last time you did it, Sony still had theit GM 1 lens, Sigma wasn't released, it would be nice to see if the other still compete. Especially the Canon collapsable 70-200 and the Nikon 70-200 f/2.8S. They were extremely nicely rated last time, but the competition wasn't remotely as fierce. And it's been a long time too, the market has changed ! I think it would be a nice video. Potential to do the same wit 24-70 f/2.8 as well (maybe even 16-35 or whereabouts ?). Could be nice to see. We often say that you date the camera bodies but marry the lenses. Basing your camera body buing decision on a lens rather than a speclist is 100% plausible, and it would be nice to be able to compare all lenses, not just lenses available on the same lens mount.

[@Patrikzuscikphotography]

It would be easy battle. 1. Sony 2. Sigma 3. Everything else.

[@antzpantz]

Jordan's costume changes with the seasons... Chris still wearing the same flannel shirt! 😂

How would you compare it to Sony 70-200 f/4 GII

[@tanegaranchu]

Thank god someone can pronounce "Bokeh" correctly! Love your feed!

[@jakepark3979]

Great review! Liked and subscribed!

[@eliasfrigard3650]

Does the weight exclude the lens hood and tripod mount, because on the Panasonic and Sony lenses it does.

[@BillyPulido]

Amazing review guys. I have the first gen 70-180 and I think its still good up to now and its super light too.

[@rvnraju911]

how is this lens autofocus hit rate compared to Sony 1st Gen?

[@gtslaw]

What are your thoughts on the Tamron 70-180 F2.8 vs the current Sony 70-200 F4 model? I know you give up the focal length on the Sony, but gain some key features and expandability?

[@Crazy_Dashcam_Videos]

I don't know if I heard you mention that the zoom is backwards

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

Guys, breathing is not the only thing that matters for video. Manual focus performance and linearity is super important to know and it's not hard to test

[@ericaceous1652]

Fabulous opening

[@lailailaiyu6395]

Can it change the focus from non-linar to linar focus on Sony E-mount

[@TimCurry04]

I own 4 Sigma Art lens with my 85 1.4 DG DN being my fav and my 35 1.4 is next... this lens is NOT a ART series, would you say this good enough for wedding photography?

[@Juventinos]

i remember getting my first 70-200 f2.8, i thought it would change my life.. truth is i barely use it

[@MattTrevett]

What did you get it for and what are you using instead?

[@tompfeiler1426]

Event shooter here need it when I can’t get close enough to the stage

[@Juventinos]

100% true it has it's uses of course it does. but not for everyone. most people won't use it@@tompfeiler1426

[@NeonShores]

Curious if this is compatible with their teleconverters. Thats 1 big plus for the Panasonic if the TCs don't work with this new Sigma.

[@donaldbate3017]

Yes, this lens is specifically designed for 100% compatibility with Sigma's TC-1411 & TC-2011 teleconvers 👍

[@Trevellian]

The E-mount version is not compatible with Sony's teleconverters, and Sigma doesn't make their teleconverters in E-mount. Sony restricts third party makers from offering teleconverters.

[@NeonShores]

@@Trevellian I'm referring to Sigmas TC1411 and 2011 for L mount. I'd have to guess they work but I couldn't find any info online.

[@sulev111]

Happy with my 35-150

[@Gcteast]

Between the Tamron and this sigma which has the best AF on moving subjects for pictures and videos ?

[@prl105]

Seems a chunky/heavy lens. Probably additional weight is down to a typewriters worth of buttons bolted to the side, along with the other operability gizmos such as the click/clickless aperture and quarter stop barrel collar features which are all useful. But Sigma usually means weight so this is no surprise and detracts this from the less weighty competition. Where weight is not an issue, this looks like a credible option and worth a test run.

[@nicomphoto]

Thanks for this review !! I've been waiting for this lens for quite some time... Love the aperture ring, don't like the weight, love the tripod color, don't know about the zoom ring, love the internal zoom, don't like the no image stabilisation ??? Did I miss that ?? There is no IS in this lens ??? When will there be f4 options with aperture rings and tripod collars ?

[@Newbster312]

it has image stabilization

[@nicomphoto]

I noticed this detail after posting my comment, cheers@@Newbster312

[@lukaszs44]

What is it 1.3 Plena and 2/3 Noct?

[@nerdyandy3101]

Your significant merit is in tackling the most essential features in real life photography. I also go for lighter lenses. As for easy & discreet travel gear, I'm still waiting for a less fast pocketable 70-200mm to go with an A7c, the small & rather impressive 28-60mm being a good start.

[@kuyans3889]

The decimals in the Plena weight measurements aren't rounded correctly! How can I trust the rest of the review??

[@lcador9]

What's up? Your finding of no focal shrinking is not supported by the Northrop review that found moderately significant focal shrinking.

[@travelpatron]

What about video stabilisation sigma or sony gm2 who wins?

[@RadoslavMalina]

Im just wondering if this sigma can be used together with sony 2x teleconverter :/

[@nathanmorgan3647]

Only Sony lenses work with teleconverters.

[@dreammachine86]

Looks like a decent lens overall, as far as E Mount goes I'm sure it will be appreciated by those who want a full 200mm or all the physical controls, without the Sony GM price. However considering how long it took Sigma to come out with this one, I was expecting something more. Would've been really cool to see Sigma do something a bit different in this segment such as squeezing a 70-250mm f2.8 into this size, or what I think would've been interesting, releasing it as a really compact & lightweight external zoom lens like Canon's RF version, and then releasing a 120-300 f2.8 internal zoom at the same time. So you could choose between compact at a much lower price than Sony, or pay a similar price to the GM II and get 100mm more range. I think 120-300 DG DN would be particularly good for Sigma to release as they don't make the DSLR version anymore which is a bit odd considering they still make a number of other DSLR lenses. With the only option for 300mm 2.8 on Sony being over £5000 a more cost effective Sigma version would surely be popular. It is shame to see some odd design choices on this lens such as the hood that requires screwing in and blocks part of the zoom ring when its on the right way, and fully blocks it in reverse. But to be fair, Sigma can't completely knock it out of the park every time. We've got a bit too complacent, expecting them to come out with something 90% as good as the first parties at 50% of the price, And it's only the more recently released Sony & Tamron competition that truly make this lens a harder sell.

[@AnotherOtherMan-alive]

Though a lot of cameras have great auto-focus right now, something you could test for and mention if present is parfocal ability. This would mainly be useful for those looking at getting more cost effective glass for smaller broadcast use (I'm thinking smaller churches where that would be useful, hell even electronically adjusted parfocal-esk ability would be fine). For those that don't know; in film production you can just retake it again and again but not so much with broadcast.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

Adroitly, ❤ haven't heard that word in ages.

[@frederiche.2430]

intro‘s spot on

[@dch2896]

Does this lens take a teleconverter?

[@alyousuf]

No OS, thats odd?

[@PetaPixel]

It’s stabilized!

[@daveed4475]

Hilarious opening! Great review.

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

Loved the intro 😂❤!

[@lurkzone]

No comparison with Sony G1 70-200?

[@lukecerritelli]

Interesting contrast to the video from Tony and Chelsea. I’d like to see a test of the lumix 70-200

[@logtothebase2]

"You're Kidding me" seriously! is that what Chris said, "Kidding" I expect there is more explicit version of the cold open.

[@dempsej]

Canadians, eh?

[@erincthomson]

Well… probably not my first natural reaction…

[@Ezrabastian]

Oh pleewaase, Tamron 65-240mm VXD R2 is way more special than this hunk of junk. Get the facts first, and speak after!!!

[@jeffrydudley7157]

Nice review guys.

[@Severisj]

Zoom rotation direction! Dont spoil your muscle memory.

[@travosk8668]

I was just watching the Fuji film xt10 review and jumping 13 years in a click is insane

[@MatthewRaifman]

Love you guys

[@tomegan4060]

Do you think the sales of third party lenses is going to drop a little since Sony has regulated them to the consumer cameras. The A7 Series because you miss the speed on the A9III and A1

[@logtothebase2]

I think the 70-200mm 2.8 is regarded as a general purpose short telle, and it sort of isin't, Its a bit too big to lug around with you unless you know you are going to need it. For Event photography, professional outdoor fashion and portrait it is for sure essential, but if you are not doing that I think its usefulness sort of drops off a cliff. The lens that changed my mind, well shifted my perspective a bit, was the Mk1 Tamron 70-180 2.8, its way smaller and lighter, add close focus and magnification to its bag of tricks and the 20mm extera at the long focusing end is not a big deal to loose. one thing I would like to see added to tests is the magnification and envelope of performance around close focusing distances, I think 200 vs 180 mm is not such a big deal if it only 200mm at infinity

[@taylorhickman84]

I recently pickup up Sony's new 70-200 f4, while it would love f2.8, this thing is the same size as my Sigma 24-70.

[@LucaBono.Studio]

Maybe this is the lens that can replace my Zeiss Apo Sonnar 135mm F2 What do you think about it?

[@tankoko7151]

any comparation between it and 70-200 GM I ?

[@Mattrossphoto]

The gm1 is awful. There’s no way it can’t be better😂

[@DjimmyTrovy]

@@Mattrossphoto How is the GM1 awful?

[@Mattrossphoto]

@@DjimmyTrovy have you used the gmii? Gm1 looks like it came with a coat of grease on the front element. I owned 2 copies and both were extremely disappointing. Gmii is prob the best lens I’ve ever used however

[@DjimmyTrovy]

@@Mattrossphoto I haven't. On what camera(s) did you use the GM1 if you don't mind me asking. I have never used a Sony lens that I could call awful, even the 16-50 3.5-5-6 kit lens for aps-c. Could be a megapixel thing. That's why I am asking.

[@Mattrossphoto]

@@DjimmyTrovy a7riv I’m on the 5 now. Just really found that lens unacceptable, especially compared to every other sigma and gm I’ve owned it was hands down the worst. Both copies😂

[@PeterEsquire]

Is it just me or is the audio this episode really good?

[@noenken]

1:27 Is that swirl? It's at least not a flat focus plane.

[@imagenatura]

I think on L mount, I think it's better to take the 70-300. It's WAY lighter and probably has better IBIS and longer.

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[@SebastianWorldwide]

I recently bought the brand new Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG DN OS | Sport Sony FE mount, but unfortunately it keeps making relatively audible noises when it is connected to the camera and the camera is on. The noise is comparable to when an external hard drive is connected to a laptop and you click through the files. In other words, like when an external hard drive is running. The noises are similar. If I turn off the image stabilisation switch on the lens, the noise is just the same. Even if I don't press the camera's shutter release button halfway, the noises are audible. They are permanently audible, regardless of whether I am taking photos. Can someone please give me some feedback as to whether this is normal with this lens. I would hate to have bought a defective lens for so much money. Many thanks in advance.

[@SPDTDL]

normal

[@ElementaryWatson-123]

With Tamron selling their excellent, inexpensive, and compact 70-180/2.8 there is little room for anything else in the market.

[@twit_t9668]

Maybe a niche gripe but I wish Sigma would update their DSLR line with the current mirrorless lens tech.

[@charliipresley]

Whats up CSTV Viewers! Whats up DPReview TV viewers!!

[@wintonmoy5560]

Holy crap finally

[@57JackCaptainSparrow]

Chris, 26 months wearing the same shirt everyday.... whoa boy!

[@BigPaco213]

yeah I would go with Tamron 70-180mm f/2.8

[@storeman165]

I bought a L mount Panasonic 70-200mm F2.8 after much consideration despite knowing Sigma's version would be released. It's heavier and pricier but some things I appreciate in Lumix's version. Such as its zoom ring direction and placement (nearer to the body) are totally different from Sigma. My muscle memory won't be able to cope with the direction when using Sigma and Panasonic zoom lenses (coming from Panasonic 24-70mm user point of view).

[@christiangaier]

Love the intro )))

[@amarublue]

It also has an INTERNAL ZOOM!!!

[@TheOneMonk]

I like the aperture ring and that we finally have a choice vs the GM2 - which is just too expensive.

[@juanquispe3494]

2:59 "The first thing I notice here is the hood" Yo dawg!

[@fusionmayafilms]

Great review! I dont see much difference in optical performance or sharpness against the GMII, i think the gm has better weight, and for fast / sport shooters has an advantage in FPS and focused % , the gmii has some other very specific use advantages, but not really in terms of image quality and sharpness

[@WarChortle]

I know this channel is for camera nerds, but I'm not sure if everyone knows what LOCA means (Longitudinal and lateral chromatic aberration is my guess). Great video as always.

[@locatelli125]

Lol the intro boys!!

[@DeAdLyShAdOw122]

You did give good benefits of Tamron over this lens, but how does the autofocus compare between the two? Stabilisation as well. Those might make or break a good photo, not only sharpnes per say.

[@niccollsvideo]

I’d say the tamron and Sigma have very similar stabilization performance and I’d put the tamron ahead in terms of af speed.

[@warpspeed9877]

Sigma is hitting the perfect spot again. Light but not flimsy like the Sony, super sharp, as fast in AF as the Sony, and 1100$ cheaper. What's not to like?

[@SmokinBuddha]

Actually, $1300 cheaper

[@seantomlinson3320]

My favorite is that he was wearing the same coat and they had the wreath on the door for YEARS.

[@adamsrice]

Jordan: switching outfits throughout the years. Chris: always being in the same shirt.

[@DaCarnival]

Mixed messages here between PetaPixel and Gerald Undone - Gerald seems to think image quality is basically neck and neck between Sigma and Sony...

[@BillyVerden]

Haha.. did you both say you weren't going to change shirts until this lens comes out?

[@NUSSMANN_]

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