Signature Deluxe II Camper Trailer Review - A Patriot X1-N Alternative? [2022] ALLOFFROAD

[@tanyastevens4244]

I really don’t think this set up should be compared to a Patriot, yes similar but that’s it.(think Jayco vs Bruder)I’ve always wanted a Patriot but if I stayed home saving for one I’d never get out there to enjoy this style of camping. The Patriot is the ultimate camper as is the Queensland built Offtrax ,they certainly have their place and price, but in my opinion the reason this is such a great trailer is that’s it is so modifiable and signature has come along way with options and quality since Stefan bought his. Not to say they dont have there problems anything mechanical you buy does small or big. Everyone has their own different needs and peeves but this trailer can be modified easily to suit. Yes I own a Deluxe 2 (MY21) I’ve modified and use mine very differently to Stefan to suit my family and needs ie, anaconda RTT, intergrated hot water system, shower arm from Kimberly to Cape, 75l Dometic fridge/freezer, 23Zero 270 awning, lithium batteries and UHF and the list can go on. I very much wanted a Patriot and entered every giveaway(obviously never won)but I wanted to go camping with my family before they all grew up and found their own set ups so thank you Signature Trailers. I try and buy Australian where I can but let’s be honest just about everything is made or comes from overseas. Life is very short ,get out there and enjoy people, we have a beautiful country with amazing freedoms.

[@holyparikrama]

Well said 👍

[@cyclemoto8744]

Thank you for sharing Stephan. I must say that I was expecting a custom build which is what I'm slowly in the process of doing. Advantage of buy something like this is that the end result arrives much sooner ;)

[@AlloffroadAu]

I wish custom build I, unfortunately, don't have the skills and tools and I think for my use too much effort but good on you if you can that would be the best way to end up with something perfect.

[@morepawstravels]

Loved the video. Great to see that you don’t have to contribute to Patriot‘s off road racing hobby to get a decent off road trailer. The one thing that I took from this entire video? The Adventureridge clear top canvas bag (from Aldi) that you had your first aid kit in. I have a fine collection of the Aldi canvas bags myself!

[@AlloffroadAu]

Thanks 👍

[@morepawstravels]

Be interesting to see how it would stand up to say an AOR Sierra ZR (which I believe start at just under $30k)

[@AlloffroadAu]

I had a look they also look great, but I do love the extra space on top of Deluxe just wish it was enclosed. Looking at ZR video seems like you need to remove the gas stove every time you open the drawer :-( that's worse then Signatures solution

[@heftymerv]

Thanks, Stefan. Great alternative to the big guns of camping trailers. Some nice ideas which would be perfect for me and the boys, however the wife needs a tad more...lol. For the top, maybe some watertight boxes up there. It would save on having a tarp, just a thought.

[@AlloffroadAu]

yea I have the swags etc on top so would be hard to fit them in boxes, but good idea for the smaller stuff. Still have a big pelican case lying around may give that a go

[@matthewbutterfield6108]

Great review of the compact trailer mate. I really like these 👍

[@AlloffroadAu]

thank you, so far really can’t fault it very happy with the set up

[@AdzGetsFit]

DO35 hitches all the way mate.

[@daveallen4878]

The trailer looks fantastic especially the price well done, those patriot trailers and drifter trailers just like you mentioned are way over priced. You can get a dedicated off-road small caravan for that price with little setting up with all the amenities and way more luxurious...

[@JamesJeanneret]

….if you buy Chinese, you can get cheaper but not Aussie made. You gotta compare apples with apples.

[@dawesville1615]

Great review Stefan. We are looking forward to your cage cover. We agree about the ToyTuff branding on the cage. A cover will certainly help that 😁. Our next job is the electrics, so we will be reviewing your electrics episode. The front bar hose - may I know the brand name please? I really like that idea. Thank you, for your informative channel.

[@AlloffroadAu]

canvas guy is busy he said the earliest opening in May to look at it. The hose was from Bunnings can’t remember the brand name. When I last checked they still had them.

[@dawesville1615]

@@AlloffroadAu, I might check a canvas company around the corner from my work see how busy they are. We have seen a couple of different versions of what we would like to achieve. I will keep you informed. Winter is coming, not that that seems to matter in your neck of the woods. Thank you for your response.

[@benmorrison9004]

I believe hardkorr campers have the enclosed box on top, not sure if they are sealed though

[@travelsolo2677]

A great review in detail. Looks like a great base camp unit 🤘🇦🇺 how do you feel about the dust proofing?

[@AlloffroadAu]

so far no issues but haven’t done prolonged dirt road driving, from the bit have done non dust ingress in compartments with doors. The top cage obviously lets dust in easily still planing to get a canvas dust and rain cover for it.

[@travelsolo2677]

@@AlloffroadAu thanks for the quick reply, looks like a great Patriot option for me & great price imo

[@AlloffroadAu]

yep 100% that was my Goal and I'm very happy with it. Patriot besides being double the price also seems to have a lot of quality issues.

[@sirrowdy1]

hey mate great review , have you been on the canning and would you take that on it? thanks wade

[@AlloffroadAu]

yes been on the Canning would not take a trailer there 1800km of corrugation if you must only quality aussie build trailer

[@shaddonaghue]

Nice and detailed mate, looks like a great set up and you have do e well I reckon.

[@AlloffroadAu]

Thank you kindly

[@paulbartsch1223]

I don’t understand these trailers. All of that money and there’s still no accomodation. We had an old Trak Shak trailer while the 5 kids were growing up. That was an awesome trailer. Quick pack up and set up, would sleep everyone. We dragged that all over the country for many years.

[@AlloffroadAu]

yep you can buy the trailer with one of Signatures Roof Top Tents I just prefer to use it as it is. Works well for us especially as I have countless sleeping set ups.

[@Peter-ml1is]

Great detailed review

[@AlloffroadAu]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@louiskudlak2241]

Looks great

[@AlloffroadAu]

Thanks!

[@AlloffroadAu]

What do you think, have I succeeded with my goal? Could this be a way cheaper alternative to a Patriot with a similar end-user case and functionality? Let me know in the comments below. COST: I would think at RRP the extras and labour cost around 10k, however, this could be done a fair bit cheaper if you go with a lower spec electrical set-up and no 1600w MultiPlus Inverter and high discharge current LiFePo3.

[@brandon84107]

Love it that’s a great build, I think an rtt would complete it, but I totally understand your hesitation and thoughts you mentioned.

[@AlloffroadAu]

yea, who knows maybe it comes one day, I thought I would have long gotten one but it just works quite well as it is for us.

[@Oz4me_craig]

I think it was a success, $20k for a camper was exactly my budget also .. any more and you would want to be using it very often or sitting in a hybrid style off road caravan. With the Supapeg gear, Dobinson shocks, Kings springs, Australian assembly and the upgraded Auto Electrics .. plently of coin was spent here in Australia so I think you got excellent value, while supporting several local companies 👍

[@things_I_saw]

@@AlloffroadAu The issue I have with this trailer (and similar) is if you were to put an RTT on, where does all the gear that is on the roof now go? Back on the car roof is not an option when you have kids and weight issues. Yet...my preference is an RTT for the girls and me and the son swag it and sell the RV5

[@AlloffroadAu]

@@things_I_saw yes one reason for not having an RTT at present as kid's swags go there, mind you some of the Hard Top RTT can carry stuff on top so it would be possible.

[@RustyCandyAdventures]

Thanks for video. Has I wrote before. I would never buy supa peg. There director owned up the staff was rude to me, there webpage was poor, but still cancelled my order for no reason. They failed fully. Russell

[@AlloffroadAu]

hey mate that’s all good and I left your comment up last time even thoughts it’s a different experience to mine but if you comment with the same now every time Supapeg is mention I will take them down.

[@RustyCandyAdventures]

You can take my comment down. I just tell more people the treatment that goes around Australia.

[@andrewford80]

@@RustyCandyAdventures Sounds like you'd be better off getting over it Rusty. Life is too short.

[@vtcampbell]

Did I miss what the (estimated) price of the combined setup would be? I have no doubt it’s cheaper but approximately how much are we talking?

[@cyclemoto8744]

20k for the trailer and i estimate around 5k for electrical

[@morepawstravels]

@@cyclemoto8744 so “around” $25k. Refer then, to my other post about the AOR Sierra ZR which I believe is still sub $30k with a fairly comparable Lithium setup already fitted.

[@AlloffroadAu]

yea sorry fortunately I received some gear for testing and review purposes when I bought the trailer it was RRP18k I think you would be around 28k but that's with a much better electrical/battery set up than Patriot

[@vtcampbell]

Thanks Stefan, I was only looking for a ballpark figure. It’s clearly a good option for the lighter use case you outlined. Well done and keep up the good work.

[@razorsmi]

Two years on how is the trailer now? I am looking at one at the moment and am interested in how you have fared with yours.

[@AlloffroadAu]

I Sold the trailer because of the lack of use due to the kids' school and training and my wife's work, but after having owned it for 3 years, I would definitely do it again that way. Needed some work, but value for money was a good trailer, and I loved the set-up

[@chrisp10022]

Thanks Stefan for the awesome video, I can relate to your circumstances with two kids and limited space in the vehicle, so this video is extremely helpful. Great points about the investment for a few trips a year, hard to justify the cost of almost another vehicle sitting in the driveway most of the time! Electrical is often very specific to our own use case, might be nice to have this optional! Also great to see the Bushman fits, as I have this as well and would also probably get another due to its low current draw & basket design. Do you use a Weber at all, just wondering if there was a space for he small one? Hopefully you can do another review in 2023 to let us know how it's going, especially with regards to family life with it, and of course how you get on with the top cage.

[@AlloffroadAu]

I don't use a Webber, you probably could fit it in the front Box but I haven't tried that. May do another review at the end of 2023, but so far nothing has changed just came back from a week camping with kids, and we still love it.

[@michaeld1167]

Hi Stefan, thanks for your videos. Just wondering if you had to pay for everything, what is the cost of your trailer including fridge, complete battery set up with inverter auto electrician etc. and awnings? Also, is the whole chassis hot dipped galvanised or just the draw bar? That hitch does look a little under whelming.

[@things_I_saw]

I was also thinking about the additional $$$ spent. Can see $10,000 easily

[@AlloffroadAu]

yes I would think all up around 28k the trailer was 18k at the time. Could easily done a bit cheaper without big inverter etc.

[@michaeld1167]

Thanks Stefan. Is the complete chassis hot dip galvanised or just the draw bars?

[@Beeand]

Hey mate, great vids. Would you have put the Bunduawn on the trailer if you still had it? Looking at getting one for my square drop

[@AlloffroadAu]

na think awnings need legs and Bunduawn is quite heavy

[@thegriff9425]

Do you put your clothes in the camper storage?

[@AlloffroadAu]

no I have all my cloth in the car, mind you I sure could

[@NeilF4x4Crusading]

Good vid but I'm a bit confused, at the start you say you built the camper over 1.5yrs then the whole episode is about a camper you purchased, I must have missed something but I'm sure at the start you said "set out to build a camper trailer..." and "so 1.5 yrs later let's see if I succeeded with what's behind me here"

[@AlloffroadAu]

yea probably not well worded, bought the camper trailer then replaced all electrics, and added quite a few other things so that's what I refer to in build probably should have said modified.

[@NeilF4x4Crusading]

@@AlloffroadAu ok thanks for clearing that up, still good report , thanks

[@Reidy4813]

Stefan you mention 100kg ball weight. Have you measured it?

[@AlloffroadAu]

that’s from specs I have not weight it myself

[@BirdManVRX]

Hi Stefan, great review. I have a RTT on my similar camper, and the gap between the awning and the tent is a pain when it rains. You briefly mentioned you had a curtain for the Supapeg awning that filled the gap on the back. I have checked their website and cannot find such a product. Where did you get it from? Any advise on filling those gaps would be awesome :)

[@AlloffroadAu]

contact SupaPeg , you could always get one done by any canvas place

[@jamesm6341]

Do you recommend army trailer for camping? Would you think army cargo trailer too much setup time?

[@AlloffroadAu]

would be like any box trailer unless you modify to your needs

[@ausguy4385]

What would be the total cost if you paid full costs after all the mods? Modded cheap so often ends up the same or more. Plus the cheap one is worth less when sold

[@AlloffroadAu]

the full cost would be around 10k extra but could be done quite a bit cheaper without a big inverter and less capable battery set up. Yes maybe worth less but didn't really build it to sell it and when I do I'm sure I got good value out of it on my trips and will still get a reasonable amount resell.

[@eprohoda]

Tanks~ amazing , :))

[@AlloffroadAu]

Thank you too!

[@michaelnugara1]

Yep they are a nice trailer. I saw one at a show and that roof top cage was a big no for me. Too susceptible to dust and water ingress. We will be buying something similar and really appreciate your tips. Cheers Mick

[@AlloffroadAu]

Thanks for sharing, yes I definitely would prefer having it enclosed but absolutely love the space up there. Working on a Canvas cover which won't be perfect but should keep stuff dry.

[@michaelnugara1]

@@AlloffroadAu why don't you go to a steel fabricator and have it closed in. It wouldn't be hard and you wouldn't be adding too much weight if you used aluminium.

[@AlloffroadAu]

yes thought about that as well mate, but then I probably want it sealed with pinch welds etc.

[@michaelnugara1]

@@AlloffroadAu seriously I think you should enclose it. Good luck with it Stefan. Nice practical set up mate👍

[@thegriff9425]

What did you end up with Michael?

[@mprance]

I'm looking at this style of camper trailer. I'm wondering if they fit 315 75 16 tires as I want the same size tire as the 4x4, cheers

[@AlloffroadAu]

probably just may need to give it 2” lift

[@justinallen7481]

Just curious what problems you encountered with the Mission trailer that led to you selling it off?

[@AlloffroadAu]

it leaked like a sieve, it had little sunshade or shelter unless you put up the huge all round tarp. The annex room could not be pegged down and the walls would collapse in wind 💨.

[@ausguy4385]

With the hitch if you left at same height was it fine? Or only if leveled it and guessed height after?

[@AlloffroadAu]

leveling on the ramp itself was a nightmare as I could not unhitch either

[@ausguy4385]

@@AlloffroadAu that sucks... so only easy on flat ground and no adjustment in height from un hitching then?

[@Corey-pd3mi]

So after doing all the mods the all in cost for us peasants not getting freebies is up there with Aussie made, but it’s still Chinese constructed and durability. If they’re assembled here with electrical done here also why was the electrical so 💩 🤷‍♂️

[@AlloffroadAu]

Freebies? there are no freebies mate it means installing and many, many hours of testing, filming and then providing my feedback so it's only free if your time is worthless for you. I have seen a few "Australian Made" Campers with no better electrics. Electrics seem to be the last on the list for most manufacturers and if you build for a 3rd of the cost of a Patriot you need to save somewhere. Supposedly Signature have improved the electrical set-up since.