Silence of the Labs - the fifth estate

In the past few years, the federal government has cut funding to hundreds of renowned research institutes and programs. Ottawa has dismissed more than 2,000 federal scientists and researchers and has drastically cut or ended programs that monitored smoke stack emissions, food inspections, oil spills, water quality and climate change. Now some scientists have become unlikely radicals, denouncing what they call is a politically-driven war on knowledge. In Silence of the Labs, Linden MacIntyre tells the story of scientists - and what is at stake for Canadians - from Nova Scotia to the B.C. Pacific Coast to the far Arctic Circle.
Original airdate : January 10th, 2014
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[@viviorunitier2527]

I'm from New Zealand and similar silencing is happening here it's so sad. They don't want to tell tourists they are swimming in toxic rivers or it would take away billions of international profits.

[@OZRIC1985]

Whoever fired Pat Sutherland and told her to vacate her office in five minutes should be repeatedly slammed in the face with a baseball bat. Her ground-breaking research on an early Viking/Norse presence in Arctic Canada is amazing, and it was awful for her to be fired.

[@shuoyang5546]

+John J Better yet, throw that dirty rat bag who fired Pat Sutherland (and asked her to vacate her office) in jail. Let those in prison beat the crap out of him, anyway. Pat devoted so much of her time to research as to the early Viking and Norsemen presence in Arctic Canada, and it is something we shall all never forget. I would love to learn so much of what she has put into because this is something I hope anyone of us can anyone of can digest inside our minds as part of our lifetime learning experience.

[@lesterclaypool1]

+ John J My wife's first field prof said, "If I say 'that, NOW' it's not personal. It would be the same as my brain sending through my CNS the electric pulse that would tell my right hand to catch. You are my right arm." They were also working with the brown bear population where the instruction "NOW" could mean the difference between a big sow having a cuddle and a kiss with you or not. If hard talk got Dr. Pat Sutherland's research tanked I've got a safe space for the suck asses reported her in the back of my van, and plenty of candy. This Empire can't burn too soon for my liking.

[@jeaneenshaw]

Vote : MAXIME BERNIER. OCTOBER 2019

[@rosebudadkins6803]

Hung up to rot.

[@amandasnider2644]

Not only is it a crime against humanity to deny our history... But 5 minutes to clean up and not have access to her own work is so rude.

[@Nervisa1939]

Amazing how things work. An actor breaks a nail and is everywhere in the news but, for things like this no one mention. That is one of the reason I decided long ego that I was not going to bother watching or reading the news. I don't know what to believe. So many lies.

[@valerierodger7700]

Where were you 6 years ago when this show was produced? Because this was all over the news at that time. It was one of the reasons that the Conservatives lost the election

[@Mich-xs5vz]

Maybe you should read a book now and again. It might teach you how to spell.

[@armanipure1]

Amazing how unnoticed this went .. The media isn't doing enough !!!

armanipure1 Our media is a joke.

[@noevilea624]

ALL media is a joke when it puts policy before safety and the welfare of the environment. On that note - Climate Change is a fraud being used to push more taxes onto the public for a problem that we never caused because it always existed before we started burning fossil fuels. Not only that but the Co2 level was up around 2000 ppm and it resulted in a richer plant growth. CC is just another con pushed by those making money off the FEAR of it all. Sideling from that - I`m somewhat of a conservationist myself and am appalled at the number of areas also being poisoned by Coal Seam Gas in places that were lush and green forestation till greedy people came along. Some of those areas are in the Amazon where populations are now dying of cancers never seen before in those areas just so some psychopaths can line their pockets.

[@dorothyallen3614]

Estelle Van Winkle FLORIDE IN OUR WATER TO DUMB US DOWN!

[@cathy3432]

The media is bought by whatever government is in power...always has been

[@rosebudadkins6803]

They never have bought off long ago.

[@riverstun]

They know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

[@aleeburitz7310]

👏👏👏👏👏!!!

[@lynnshepler4695]

Brilliant comment.

[@scarface7142]

Alee has got a great 👍👍 morning morning

[@rhinovirus2225]

Concise, I dig it

[@James-gk8ip]

Oscar Wilde

[@KazenoniKakuremi]

Linden MacIntyre was hands down the best investigator reporter Fifth Estate ever had...pity he retired....he should've worked till he was a 100 lol

[@TheGauges420]

I like Mike Kelly the most. He's a pretty good narrator honestly.

[@dethem]

human greed really does know no bounds

[@horsluva0758]

Truth. The love of money is the root of ALL evil.

[@MultiCappie]

@@horsluva0758 Conservatives = evil. Don't kid yourself.

[@HouseOfDulo]

,,Elites,, have sold humankind out of greed! Selling your own kind has to be one of the lowest acts in the Universe! The only thing that comes to mind is that they must lack a soul matrix. Either that or weakness, lack of compassion and lack of pride and self worth have reached a new low, it seems to run rampant among the so called ,,elites,,. Nothing elite in that! The scum of all of Creation is runnung this world! And we're allowing it to go on! Sad doesn't begin to cover it!

[@connieeveritt5704]

Yup, money talks and dirty money talks the loudest. Sadly we all let it happen.

[@grahambird1570]

Human stupidity has no bounds Matie !!!!

[@humanearthling4661]

There is no such thing as a "public choice."

[@JavierBonillaC]

“public choice” is a technical term in Economics. What do you mean?

[@sevenofnine6448]

Independent research is very important, our government s lab funding is B.S.

[@jaykatcher1769]

This was when CBC was our tv station.....sad days came

[@hallets1956]

1 word! MONEY!

[@MultiCappie]

1 word: CONSERVATIVES!

[@lenitaa7938]

The Media needs to keep this Topic and Issue on Prime Time! It wouldn't be too hard to organize huge demonstrations to Demand our Govt do its Job in rehiring back our Researchers and Inspectors, etc! No Option must be given to our Govts! The Citizens' Health and Well-being must be a Top Priority for any Govt! This affects our Trust in our Govt in a Fundamental way!

[@coffeeisgood102]

I used to be proud to be a Canadian. I looked at Canada as a model for other nations. I was badly mistaken.

[@3516mos]

Same here.....

[@amelsabri469]

Harold Bullock Me too😯😯

[@sandybrown7739]

I used to be a proud American. Shame on my country as well.

[@BarryAnderson]

"Science has many faces many agendas and many sponsors with many different services and product agendas. A double edge sword that does great harm or great good for the people. A lot of Government pork projects that should be scrapped or should never see any light. Public funding TAX Payer Funding and independent funding can never financially compete against industrial commercial funding ever. A lot of patented products will use science studies to sell the product after FDA approval. The products in question can do good or not so good for the consumer market place that science is being used to serve or not to serve for all humanity. Holistic Chef Barry Anderson PS Often the science of Mother Nature is being shoved under the bus in the name of progress. Sad and so true.

[@CherryDolce93]

That commercial cost 28 million dollars? I think I misunderstood??

[@janetleslie889]

Not long ago people laughted at the idea of something as huge as the Pacific Ocean could become polluted enough to harm ocean life. People hauled barge load after barge load of garbage to dump in the deeper water. Ships dumped all their garbage in international water. Many ships around Canadian waters dumped in sight of shores. Including their used oil.. Then Japan had Fukishima, which they lied about so no one could clean it up properly. Now it's to late. We know some of Long Island s accident but we never know the truth.

[@mikequintero3555]

25:30 as an American this couldn’t be more relatable

[@Caperhere]

The original air date was in 2014. The dumbing down of a lot of people has been successful. It’s been done in several countries. You can trace it by the rise of right wing governments, and the move to public support of authoritarian leaders. Harper did an enormous amount of damage to Canada, and to the planet.

[@lizpavlovic2120]

Agree: "we are not interested in making political arguments". Nothing is more outraging than Science used to achieve political goals

[@CrankyBubushka]

How horrible . I see similar political jockeying here in the USA too. Science is based on facts, dammit!

[@Annasea666]

some things haven't changed since they excommunicated Galileo

[@thecatspyjamas1309]

It's more theories than facts.

[@ich123binsimmernoch]

Meow Ó Madaidhin well those theories are based on observations

[@KazenoniKakuremi]

I think you need to conduct some research on how scientist define theory. It may surprise you to find out, it has a significantly higher concentration of fact supporting it than what you think a theory is Scientific theory is *NOT* = A friend of yours at a party that ends a claim with "just a theory of mine"

[@danielbrown1984]

CrankyBubushka, science is nothing but a political tool. It used to be about verifiable and testable facts. But that was 50+ years ago.

[@pspboy7]

Felt bad for that poor woman, she was on to something important.... good thing they had a big security guard there, she sure looked dangerous... :(

[@raindrops4086]

This is so sad, how can we come so far yet be so backwards. Greed!

[@bobstevens8259]

As Americans we do not teach history lessons enough. Donald Trump is doing the same thing to America. Politicians love to keep the status quo. Omitting and destroying, and cherry picking scientific data to fit there narrative. If Canada cant stop them I'm sure all hope is lost for America.

[@EnergyCuddles]

The Scandinavian in me is very saddened by the revisionism that put a stop to Sutherland's dedicated work.

[@APRIL2862]

I'm surprised this presentation is still on KZbin.

[@danieldetweiler1259]

This is just one of the out right criminal legacies of the conservative Harper government.... But Canada has a real breath of fresh air with Trudeau in a majority government. As a 1st Nations person I actually feel great about my country.

[@CrankyBubushka]

☺

[@Annasea666]

happy to hear that!

[@coffeeisgood102]

Daniel...I hope you're right.

[@bedazzlejuju]

Daniel Detweiler Here in good 'ol Merica! we're just starting our journey with a criminal front whose executive orders so far have been an outright assault against science, knowledge, environmental concerns and climate. Devastating.

[@Holy_hand-grenade]

Daniel Detweiler And how would you feel about further funding for the Norse in Canada project? My guess is Trudeau will be equally politically expedient in his funding off academia. The problem is that your research institutions rely on so much federal funding. In the US most of our research institutions are working off endowments and grants - not annually budgeted direct funding.

[@mariekatherine5238]

Why can't people be honest? Give the REAL reason when firing someone! "Hey! You're getting the ax because your work is hindering the continued expansion of my wallet. Take a hike, bud!"

[@dark-lord-vinay]

The dream, becoming a well known and respected scientist to be fired and ridiculed by the government.....

[@kathrynalvarez7303]

At about 6 minutes in to this they talk about the museum and the. Hanger and how it focused on the war of 1812. I believe they want to silence pat sutherland because what she found was people able to live in peace. I hope she can find a way to continue her work. I'm rooting for you pat. These are finding of my ancestors. Thank you.

[@marymullins7297]

The general public have the right to know ,how dare they assume superiority.

[@bubbajohnson7132]

Harper ... leaving a legacy that's on the wrong side of history.

[@MrGoatflakes]

Trudeau: Posing showpony Trump: Thank god he hasn't gotten us all killed yet :D

[@sociologie4507]

Sole focus on oil and gas economics for nearly a decade. Harper was a disastrous leader for Canada.

[@amelsabri469]

the sad reality the immediate profit is faaaàaaar more important than human and environnent health for government. what a lack of vision! The scientific are a blessing for a coun4y. Let them work. Everybody will benefit! !

[@floragarcia398]

We people need to come together and fight these cancerous politicians.Sooooo sad What's Really Going On Behind the curtain.

[@c0d1ngclips25]

it's not politicians in general, it's the wrong politicians. whoever builds expensive dams to prevent floods won't get as many votes as who gives interviews in floods holding sandbags when it's already too late. as frustrating as it may sound, what democracies really need is good education and open discourse without misleading media coverage...

[@docwhispr]

thank you for sharing this, what an eye opener

[@carrow1057]

Have they done a follow-up program since this CBC NEWS?

[@ronniedelahoussayechauvin6717]

It hurts my heart to hear these sea animals voice...Their Cry Because They’re Removed From Their Nature💔They don’t deserve to be captured in NETS...They have their purpose here on earth too💔

[@GreatsToo]

hi im from new zealand and really love your country i hope this is not still going on

[@sevenofnine6448]

Its in america. Canada, Government s are controlling. The news distracting public.

[@Janellabelle]

Of course it's still going on.

[@puhbrox]

As long as we still have corrupt politicians and capitalism, it will continue across the entire world.

[@PooDotStinkPants]

Next thing you know the government will start banning Fava beans and a nice Chianti.

[@James-ko1bl]

Follow the money. Wrist it out of their hands. It will be messy.

[@miriamwells35]

It should have been obvious to everyone since 2001 that this is where we were headed.

[@ama230]

i dont want to be here. they could do me a favor by making it torture. glad i didnt make copies of myself for more enslavement : (

[@heathertremblay2863]

I wouldn't be surprised if that sperm whale that recently died over here was due to that oil spill that took place in English Bay

[@disf5178]

I wouldn't be surprised if you pump gas in your vehicle whenever you want to, and complain about the price

[@swapshots4427]

Such horrific gestapo tactics. Very shocking. Absolutely disturbing disrespect for career professionals.

[@laraoneal7284]

Thank you for this CRUCIAL TRUTH. Please update this. This vid is 5 years old.

[@twinturbo3461]

Whenever something great is discovered the powers that be will try to cover it up because they want us to believe what their narrative is and keep us in the dark.

[@zinnia3684]

Science is constantly changing based on further study. It is crucial to study the past critically and truthfully to move forward confidently. When $$$$$ and directional goals come into play we all lose.

[@delbertosborne2390]

It looks like the fox has been given the responsibility of guarding the chicken coop. "Petroleum" 🦊

[@kareno8634]

Where is the part about those who fired the Scientists were following orders from The Peoples' Servants, those that WORK for Them? WHAT are they 'trying' to cover up?

[@zoehope73]

I used to lament the fact that Alaska went to US. I figured that Canada would have treated it with more respect. Wow, wrong much? I have to say, I am devastated by this. My entire view of Canada has shifted.

[@lifeinthefastlane8242]

All comes down to money 💰

[@ToniHunterOne]

So Where is all of this now?

[@johnjeffrey3127]

Harper is gone...now we must bring our great country back from his legacy...he was a disgrace to our nation!

[@MultiCappie]

Harper can rot.

[@slehtca]

People am so sad today as I watch this video and ashamed to be considered as Canadian... this whole world has gone nuts and I see now that we are on a path of no return humanity don't care and politicians play games with people lives every day

[@vdolce1403]

Great piece The title......? Not so much

[@spencerstewart6516]

I keep getting these videos i'm been almost brain washed by the 5th State

[@puhbrox]

Go watch Fox instead

[@spencerstewart6516]

@@puhbrox Okay Du

[@charlawson2258]

what do you expect..it's CBC

[@TiempoNuevo-ew7ty]

It sounds like the USA. A lot of science videos have been removed from the internet. I remember in that time period I was seeing a lot about Texaco and their contamination to on of the rivers which runs into the Amazon River...then the ocean. The tribes that ask if the water was safe were lied to. Many of the people began to become ill with illnesses that had never been known of. Eventually they sued Texaco in a California court. That was keep quiet and the Amazon videos were removed from the internet and in the middle Texaco sold out.

[@rhinovirus2225]

My dude pronounced facade as fa-sad I've never heard it said that way.

[@delbertosborne2390]

Just think, I was considering moving to Canada. I had been there year's ago and found it to be very clean like Germany. I was impressed. I nee to rethink this over 😏

[@judithinsley9358]

2011. Fukushima.

[@louiekiwi]

Better not count the polar bears and find there's more than ever. Apparently that can lose you your job too.

[@AH-vw9nq]

No politician will accept destruction of jobs/ economy. Therefore Scientists must FIND & PROPOSE SCIENTIFIC solutions on how to exploit ALL resources in such a way as to control & minimize pollution to acceptable levels BUT still allows for jobs to continue & new job creation & growth & productivity etc. E.g if industry is polluting the air or water how can that same industry continue to thrive & grow using better inexpensive technology that deals with pollutants effectively? A scientific solution provides harmony & mutual respect & support between politicians & scientists & society in general.

[@79tazman]

I'm waiting for the CBC to start promoting socialism since it's the in thing being taught in schools today and how capitalism is great but it was not done right and we must tear our country up and start a open socialist country.

[@cidb.212]

$28 million would have bought a lot of school supplies and filled a lot of potholes! If I took money out of my mortgage payment to make frivolous movies, I'd be considered irresponsible. Hmmm....

[@LovelyLeota49]

Omg... Anyone can see how Political this is!!! Some of you, Canadians, and you know who you are, need to open your eyes!!! This project, is for the Whole World!!! Not your, stinking Little Pockets!!! God Bless Our Scientists!!!!

[@kezz-iofficial4058]

The greed of humans is our downfall!

[@veganvivjones4655]

Kezz-I Music - The obscene greed of those who have elected themselves our masters - primarily bankers, who own all corporations - that's all countries, all governments, all MP's, all councils, all police forces, etc, etc, etc, that has been the downfall of humanity. It is the constant and ever increasing taxation and greed of the few that keep the majority on the ever turning hamster wheel is, and always has been, the problem. As Prince said: 'We are all slaves on the plantation'. How right he was

[@cuculina100]

" We dont have philosopher kings ":that's the problem with the world today.Maybe we should have philosopher kings. " Scientists should work away from the public and let the politicians decide what to do with the info the scientists offer" is the worst thing we kan do, we let the politicians do that for years and we see the results. Politicians are elected by the people, they work for the people and the people have rights. It is not up to the politicians to decide how much informations the people are intiteled to.

[@fawnwoods51]

Like the United States Military, Canada's Military's functioning is threatened by climate change: fires, floods, temperature. How can any nation's politicians ignore this?

[@delbertosborne2390]

I was considering moving to Canada, but not now😒

[@roleat]

If they prove a site is of cultural importance then they wouldn't be able to destroy it for bitumen. OH CANADA!

[@carollepage860]

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[@Bronzeback8]

I feel bad now because I voted for PC and Stephen Harper. Who should I have voted for to avoid this? Going forward who should of vote for in the future to protect the environment and global warming?

[@71samrath]

Shame on Governments, and the people who are treated like sheep

[@Madmen604]

Political corruption. Those programs are essential. That archeology, historical and environmental research is fantastic. (But don't overstate the purity of scientific research, either)

[@amelsabri469]

You have to match an agenda otherwise out! never put all eggs in one basket. Always have this mindset at work

[@mshakespearek]

The same in Denmark from 2002 until now

[@janvannkandla3183]

Planet? Top of the Planet? Impossiball.

[@thedingo1572]

So any progress? This was 6 years ago 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

[@bigptm1364]

Profiting from global warming, no wonder government scientist pretend there is no such thing. We expect this kind of thing from our scientist & govt in U.S., surprised to hear Canada's politicians so quick to follow suit. Canada is the tourism king of the world for outdoor activities and is the most beautiful place in the world barr none. I sure hope it stays that way for the most part!

[@wteach3718]

There were Militias that fought against those overlords and oppressors and if needed it may happen again we have certain God-given rights

[@Janellabelle]

I'm with you. We need to remove the overlords by violence if necessary, and it will be necessary considering how desperate they are to hold on to power.

[@frankmarburger6587]

I have a question did Canada exist before the United States, if so how long before did it exist. Love to know love program

[@Holy_hand-grenade]

Political parties should NOT be allowed to influence museums and academics. How absurd.

[@zinnia3684]

Trudeau is further controlling media, speech, borders(unmonitored), religion, and no end in sight.

[@humanearthling4661]

This is what a civilization gets when most of its citizens do not pay attention to what politicians are really doing to legitimate government institutions. This is what a civilization gets when people do not even KNOW what constitutes legitimate and illegitimate government. Fascism takes over. Corporatism takes over. Corporatism IS FASCISM. This is what happens when most people flock to own each latest technological toy corporations put out; every gadget, every piece of shiny "thing" anyone can spend their hard earned funds on..... his is what happens when a civilization doesn't appreciate the hardest working among us who hold it all together for less than politicians and drug runners make with their criminal enterprises. This is what one gets when most people exalt those who are rich without questioning HOW they got rich..... This is what one gets ..... This is what one gets when most are asleep at the wheel of living....and cannot recognize their own National Flag...

[@disf5178]

When publicly funded research becomes "YOURS" ... when a scientist cant separate their political activism from their research, and the ego feeds off a "savior of the planet" complex... see a shrink

[@777JC77]

very alarming

[@leeannwitt5380]

It's what u can sell,not save!!&that is the problem!!!

[@humanearthling4661]

Well for years scientists were content to do the research on focused issues without concern for how their research would be used, and most of them when they figured out how it was being used, didn't speak out for fear of losing their standing in the research feeding trough. So...now they are surprised and outraged that the ones with the deep pockets are pulling the plug on all or most research grants? What did they think a clearly corrupt system would do once they (the research scientists and microbiologists, etc.) were no longer required because the govt. had enough power, knowledge and technology to shut the whole of humanity into totalitarian dictatorship in which no one will be allowed to question govt. or even to do any genuine research all encompassing instead of being mere technicians (a travesty of the use of their Science degrees) turning in only a minuscule aspect of the total picture they couldn't be less interested in before. just saying...

[@freespirit2364]

What do we do as Canadians for the planet survival ? We are just as guilty since we are the consumers.

[@lauraw.7008]

Sad, hope Justin Trudeau does a better job.

Laura Westbrook Ah, hahahaha!

[@janice8514]

Surprise. He didn't.

[@sodone4078]

😂😂😂😂😂🙄SMH! 😣

[@catherinesecula5287]

what we can do ? catherine from Australia , same politics as Canada ..sad..

[@stefanfincken4359]

Nauseating development|!

[@rosebudadkins6803]

Little real truth just bread & circuses. So sad! To hell with truth.

[@SwastikaHinduSansrkit]

Canada is a wonderful country. However, they have to come to realization that this land belongs to the Natives. Lets not hide this or continue ignoring it. We as Canadians are proud of our country. Lets keep our Heritage alive.

[@feraudyh]

Let's hope Trudeau reverses this.

[@martytruelove5026]

What a JOKE.Trudeau is giving what the people of Canada built away to people outside of this country.Canada comes second to him.

[@KazenoniKakuremi]

huh? those assets are land locked! Majority of the employees are Canadian and the remainder live in Canada, pay taxes in Canada....foreign direct investment ensures those sectors are well capitalized and *NOT* driven to cost cutting via 'right-sizing' There's no difference.........lol what do yu think has changed? Do you think prior to foreign ownership those companies were *NOT* exporting? lol or do you think remaining profits were kept in Canada? lol they were either paid out to a handful of shareholders, many of whom are large foreign investors, kept with the company via stock buy backs, or invested in US equity or government bonds... don't reply unless you got proof something material has changed since ownership. When i say credible, i mean from a credible source....not brietbart, a blog, by credible I mean, government agency, *National* or *international* media conglomerates (excluding opinion section articles i.e. non-employees of that organisation. As-in written or presented by people with zero accountability to that news media or Gov agency, with disclaimers like ►views of author do NOT represent blah blah Just so you are fully clear, a credible source meas: Companies that hold a diverse mix of television, cable television, radio, newspaper, magazine, and/or internet operations OR have a high *National*/*International* market share in only two of the aforementioned mediums e.g. print and online. the local paper from say Victoria County in Nova Scotia, Canada is *NOT* a credible source examples of what would be a credible source: Statistics Canada, Bank of Canada, CBC, Postmedia, Toronto Star, Huffington Post, Buzzfeed BBC,, the Guardian, New York Times Unless you can cite a credible source, supporting your claim foreign direct investment and/or ownership has had a material impact on the Canadian economy as a whole...then *DO NOT REPLY*

[@lesterclaypool1]

"examples of what would be a credible source: Statistics Canada, Bank of Canada, CBC, Postmedia, Toronto Star, Huffington Post, Buzzfeed BBC,, the Guardian, New York Times" I applied your dictatorial rules to the Breitbart Wikipedia entry. It would appear to invalidate almost 87% of what is cited there, applying your demanded citation criteria. Kinda funny how that came around to bite you in your Harry v' Jah , huh?

Harri v'Jah Ha! The "credible" sources you cite are all cooperate owned propaganda machines.

[@bikinggal1]

you have high hopes!!

[@Chicagocanine]

That marine biologist or whatever he was kinda looks like Jeffrey Combs (who played Dr Herbert West)

[@flamechick6]

Back at it again. Why do people want to stay ignorant

[@laraoneal7284]

So sad for these REAL SCIENTISTS. It is unfortunately true NICE GUYS FINISH LAST.

[@khalidalzayani7072]

very sad

[@Longtack55]

At 15:50 Dr Phillips is half wrong and later being very objective and neutral. Scientists can and do tell "us" what thresholds are acceptable to maintain human health. >5ppm of blah blah in the water is harmful to the point that a person's life will be uncomfortably shortened or harmed. I imagine that the administrators decided that there was now sufficient evidence collected and that the Gummint would now act on it - or not.

[@gerryevia879]

Canadian did now what is old history's of Canada 🇨🇦 god bless

[@sheckyfeinstein]

Sounds like 2020 USA.

[@mpking-ey7ys]

I think the current generations of scientists had taken for granted the supports the public and private sectors given to science. You might think it's a right and it's important science is supported. The truth is science has been only interesting to the ruling class if it is about making weapons. The scientists need to start thinking like the artists, it's a privilege given to them by their fellow countrymen to do what they do. Most of what the scientists produce end up in journal papers that no one reads, just like most of what artists produce end up in the incinerator or the dump.

[@sabaghide3741]

The silent lap which is the secrt

[@jaggirl]

It doesn't surprise me at all..