SILENCE OF THE LAMBS 4K UHD BLU-RAY REVIEW | KINO VS CRITERION!!

We have another 4K vs Criterion showdown on our hands! This time we dive into Kino Lorber’s
new 4K UHD release of Silence of the Lambs and compare it to the Criterion Collection Blu-ray release.
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[@JeffRauseo]

To be clear - I’m not saying this isn’t worth upgrading. I’m just being fair to the great Criterion disc while also mentioning how good a job Kino did with their disc. Kino is the winner - but for budget’s sake, maybe not everyone needs to run out and buy the 4K.

[@CinematicDependency]

Good response 👍

[@Rockillswich26]

Do you think Dolby Vision was necessary for the 4K disc?

[@nationalcoasternews5798]

FYI you also did the criterion 4K comparison with do the right thing

[@JavierArellano]

Now in Aug 2024 the Criterion on sale for $25 so I will get it

[@kevinkoch6900]

Criterion for me. The booklet and extras are always a cut above along with a great restoration.

[@NeonSpoon-q1u]

I just finished watching the criterion blu ray on a 4K player that upscales, I can't imagine it looking any better.

[@wright96d]

The biggest problems with this release are that the first 20 minutes are in the incorrect color space, making the image green and undersaturated. The 2.0 track is also just a 5.1 downmix. It's not a true stereo mix like is on the Criterion.

[@richellebrittain2127]

I mentioned the same thing in an earlier comment, but it may have been deleted because it mentioned a forum that often criticizes Jeff's reviews (though I'm not as critical myself). Jeff, can you take another look at the first 20 minutes or so?

[@wilkofm]

As I live in Australia, I’ve been waiting for a 4k release of ‘Silence of the Lambs’ as the Criterion release is region locked. Will definitely be picking up the Kino Lorber release. Great review Jeff!

[@nationalcoasternews5798]

I literally bought the criterion a few months ago so I’ll be keeping that one. Also what are some examples of criterion being hit or miss lately

[@mclovin7326]

Children of Paradise is one people say was a bad transfer by criterion

[@nationalcoasternews5798]

@@mclovin7326 That’s an old release. I keep hearing people say they haven’t been as good over the last year or two but I haven’t heard specific examples

[@jhaft703]

@@nationalcoasternews5798 Sound of Metal, none of the ASL scenes are translated via hardcoded subs (like the Amazon stream) or with the included/optional SDH track

[@TheKibbles2005]

Kinda bummed out that they look so similar to each other. But this just means that the Criterion release is just that damn good. My 4k player does upscaling so I’ll just hang onto my bluray. Thanks Jeff 🙏🏼

[@spaceodds1985]

Same with me. I imported the Criterion so I never really had any direct plans to upgrade… glad I don’t have to.

[@birgerolovsson5203]

The Blu-ray is the clear winner for me comparing the photos you show us.

[@robertpreskar8233]

Kino's 4K disc has incorrect color space for the first 20 minutes. The included Blu-ray from Kino does not have this issue. The audio mixes are not identical between the two releases. Criterion has the correct original 2.0 mix. Kino's is a fold down of the 5.1 mix to 2.0, which is inferior to the 2.0 mix that Criterion offers. Because Kino's 4K disc has color issues for the first 20 minutes, one must compare Kino's Blu-ray with Criterion's Blu-ray. Criterion's Blu-ray has slightly more detail and the correct 2.0 mix. The clear winner, in regards to picture and audio, is the Criterion Collection Blu-ray of Silence of The Lambs.

[@robertpreskar8233]

Also, Kino is stubbornly not acknowledging the problems with this release and is highly unlikely to correct the transfer and audio and issue a replacement program.

[@Mortified_Penguin]

@@robertpreskar8233 Thank you. I was utterly perplexed by this guy saying the Kino was the better release, when clearly, just through my own research, the Criterion is the better release.

[@ZodsSnappedNeck]

@@robertpreskar8233Bit late, but the incorrect color timing actually was the fault of MGM’s HDR grade. Kino could not “fix” the issue, as all they were able to do was use what MGM supplied them with. Now if MGM could fix that and a range of other issues in 4K releases in their library, that would be great.

[@Eidechsenhund22]

anyone know if the color been has fixed?

[@ZZ21zx]

@@Eidechsenhund22I’ve done my own research. It seems that this is more like a rumor and I don’t think there is a problem with color at all. I also heard that the new 4k scan is closer to the original film. Just my two cents. People can have their own opinions.

[@dominfglez]

I think you did the 4k vs criterion comparison of 'Do the right thing' as well

[@NoirFan84]

I knew there'd be little to no difference on this one, the Criterion one looked beautiful as it was. More than happy with my Criterion edition & won't be upgrading. The packaging is much nicer on the Criterion edition too.

[@timecapsule5604]

Wow this isn't much different glad I didn't buy the 4k yesterday already have the criterion so I stick with the criterion.Not much different in audio or video so not worth the double dip

[@johnscott4385]

Great review. I’m a Criterion fan and planed on buying this from Criterion. Waited for you review before I made up my mind. Looks like I’ll stay with Criterion. Thanks.

[@ernestolopez23]

Criterion for me no need to “upgrade” to 4k but still cool kino is doing 4k releases

[@travelinman]

Thanks for this. I was thinking about the double dip. But with the Criterion massive special features and picture quality about the same I’ll stay put

[@freshlysqueezed-r3u]

Thank you, I’ve been waiting for this one. My wife hasn’t seen this yet somehow haha. I’m going for criterion for the commentary, and I figure the 4K will drop in price while the criterion is 20 on Amazon.

[@scottpilgrim920]

The Criterion release is beautiful!!

[@mzr457]

I would rather buy Criterion but sadly Kino is kicking their ass in the 4k game.

[@The4Mechanix]

Surprised not to hear anything about the color space issue in the first 20 minutes a few people are upset about in bluray forums. I don't own this disc at all, might pick up the disc on sale. Also it makes sense these two look similar, not many blurays get a 4k master and then down sampled to 1080, those actual upgrades tend to be more obvious.

[@robertobuatti7226]

I've purchased The Silence of the Lambs several times on many formats, just purchased the 4K release from Kino Lorber and this will be the very last time I purchase it, being that it's 4K.

[@travisspazz1624]

I'm looking forward to Invasion of the Body Snatchers 4k!!

[@1luiszepol]

Me too.

[@j.m.4858]

I can't really think of any movies where I would choose things like commentaries and packaging over the picture quality. Ideally I'd like to have both, but, if it's one or the other, I'm choosing the best viewing experience every time. Great review as usual man.

[@yelanates]

Both.

[@xxxWolFangxxx]

See, I’m the opposite. I can’t imagine choosing a 5% visual upgrade over the invaluable insights things like great special features and director’s commentaries can give

[@dantasticmania8728]

@@xxxWolFangxxx Yes definitely, it's why I still buy physical media on top that my friend watched the KZbin version on stream and he said they literally edited out most the swear words! Next they'll completely remove the Buffalo Bill scenes cause it may offend certain type of group outta the LGBTQ community.

[@SamLovesMovies25]

If I didn't already have the Criterion version I would probably have gone ahead and gotten this 4K, but I DO already have the Criterion Blu Ray and it does look like little difference so I'm probably just gonna stick with the one I have.

[@mattmiller7761]

Thanks for the review on this. Criterion’s packaging and artwork blow the other cover out of the water. Also the menu screen on Criterion’s disc also is incredible. Enjoying these comparisons! Looking forward to Mulholland Drive 4K vs Blu-Ray 4K transfer.

[@reginaldforthright805]

Nah I’ll go with the original movie poster

[@darrenblizzard3851]

Good to know I don't need to retire my Criterion version. I can safely skip the Kino 4k and upgrade my Scream Factor Misery to the Kino 4k which clearly seems to be a much more worthy upgrade given your Mistery comparison vid.

[@stewartschuster]

Appreciate that you're doing these. I have the Criterion, and was wondering if I should get the Kino, but I think I'll be fine keeping the Criterion for now.

[@okAngelface]

Criterion looks phenomenal on Sony x90j75 w/ Sony UBP X800M2. Thanks for quelling my curiosity.

[@LetsWatchaMovie]

Someone told me I was crazy for thinking the Criterion release was better. I didn't think the Kino release was bad but when I'm comparing a 4K to a bluray, the 4K should be better

[@yorkshiredubs1825]

And here I am in the UK with neither version available for purchase. 😒 Happens quite often with a lot of 4K releases over here (Misery is another example), the only way is to break the bank and order in from the US or Europe. I'll keep my fingers crossed though. Thanks as always for the video!

[@3000KJH]

Yeah. So annoying. Wish I could walk into Hmv and pickup a copy.

[@roberthuerta2776]

Thanks Jeff for the comparison of the classic Silence Of The Lambs! I already own the Criterion edition so I won't be picking up the Kino Lorber edition. There is not enough to justify the double dip, keep up the great work!

[@Anytyme06]

I'm going to go with the KL mainly because of the Dolby Vision.

[@RoyMurphy1]

Yea I was a little underwhelmed with this 4k disc.....Ther is reports that the bit rate is averaging 90mps....but I was only getting 40mbs on standard HDR .....my TV don't support Dolby vision.

[@bigalanthewasp]

Watched the 4K disc last night beautiful transfer

[@ItsameMatt]

I have the MGM/20th Century Fox blu-ray, which looks to have the same special features as the new KL release. I'll likely upgrade to the 4K blu-ray.

[@Mike12345]

Love when my exorbitant Criterion purchases are justified :)

[@youtubesux6193]

Sweet Sweetback. Criterion vs. Vinegar Syndrome.

[@kayatthemovies3119]

We in UK have to always lose out. Does anyone know if there will be a UK release?

[@edwardthebanished]

Really enjoying these comparison videos, Jeff! They’re super helpful when deciding to upgrade or not. Keep up the good work!

[@georgebautista6339]

Thank you for the excellent review Jeff! Just a question, my Samsung Q80T 75in 4K TV per its specifications doesn’t support Dolby Vision but it supports HDR10+. Since most of the 4K HDR Blu Ray release seem to have Dolby Vision, am I missing a lot on the picture quality when I watch discs that have Dolby Vision instead of HDR10+?

[@adriancronin533]

How does the original 2009 silence of the lambs bluray compare with the criterion?

[@buckbucko6333]

Thank u

[@Safeandsanepyro]

Does anyone know if 12 Anger Men 4k looks better than the criterion? I've been thinking about upgrading because I love that movie, but I'm not sure.

[@Espo2250]

I have the criterion blu ray and ive watched it like 5 or 6 times since its release....but if there was a difference i probably would have ordered the 4k. Thanks for the heads up!

[@GA-1st]

That's director Jonathan DE-Mee. When it comes to important, classic films, I try to get all available editions. I have both!

[@jamessiddle7389]

Hi Jeff 👋 Hannibal is coming out on 4K here in the UK this October, thought I'd best upgrade Silence to 4K but since you can only get it in the US do you know if the disc will play here in the UK? Don't want to fork out for it then find out it won't play.

[@Bozlee22]

Kino Lorber service is pretty horrible. They shipped me 5 blu rays and they didn’t arrive for 4 weeks. then they gave me attitude about having to ship them. their customer service people are pretty rude too.

[@the_elder_wand3845]

Thanks for this comparison video. I noticed There’s more depth on the 4K.

[@73ocampo]

I plan on still picking up the 4K release, I grew up watching this movie after HS then I finally made it to the police academy. Do you know any new details on a steelbook? Or any upcoming news on Red Dragon on 4K ? Thank you for the review.

[@ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM]

I love these types of comparisons Jeff, keep up the great work!

[@tommorrissey4726]

Appreciate the honest, careful take- sometimes 4k is a significant upgrade, sometimes it isn't, and it's good to know when to spend and when to save the twenty bucks.

[@ricahrdb]

Thanks for this review. I downgraded the 4K release on my wishlist for the time being. Will probably get it at some point but hopefully at a lower price point. Or maybe I'll wait for an improved release.

[@steven2640]

It was $20 at Best Buy and I had to grab it despite having the Criterion edition.

[@batman.darthmaul]

The commentary on the Criterion Blu is from 1994, originally produced for their laserdisc release of the film. That commentary is outstanding, one of the best I've heard. For those who haven't heard it, I strongly encourage you to buy a copy of the Criterion Blu. It's also available on their 1998 DVD release, but the picture quality won't be nearly as good.

[@MrKahlerHahn]

With this minimal improvement on the image it will come down to the difference in pricing for me

[@RogerOThornhill]

Many (most) late 80s through early 2000s movies seemed more interested in being able to film in more natural lighting conditions than in using the slowest, sharpest film stock, giving them a grainy, soft look--so a lot of their negatives are probably closer to 2 1/2k to 3k in resolution anyway.

[@1luiszepol]

Happy for the Criterion's Collectors. I'll seek the Kino to upgrade my old bluray.

[@theogriffin5472]

I was lucky to find the Kino 4K at Best Buy for 20 bucks on release day. I also have the criterion, but I love this movie. So I’m happy I got both! Great video, Jeff 👍

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

Have you read that it has the incorrect color space for the first 20 minutes?

[@mikeparez]

@@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFanwhat does that even mean

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

@@mikeparez That means the first 20 minutes of the UHD is desaturated. The color is drained out a little bit. Most people don't notice, but if you compare the Blu-ray with it you'll see the issue. It might not bother you, it doesn't bother me too much. But I thought I would mention it.

[@The_Non-One]

I’m curious, how do the blu rays compare to each other?

[@Eazy-E-40]

You've done this with Do the Right Thing before too.

[@chrisjfox8715]

This is one of those movies where some pristine 4k edition would take away from the nostalgic look of the film in my eyes

[@021om6]

Is the blu ray version region free? Or only region A?

[@ShimmeringPilgrim]

I heard mayonnaise gets scratches off of discs, is that true?

[@LL-kf1xr]

I have the criterion blu ray and i like it better than the kino version

[@vincentyu1947]

I heard the first 20 minutes had a colour issue?

[@briantaylor6030]

Thanks for the review. I'll keep my criterion and won't bother with the newer 4k

[@jbainbridge22]

My copy is "out for delivery" ah yeah :)

[@tjtreviews]

Guess I'm going criterion

[@middle-agedgamer7375]

No, you're wrong! This is why I love having a 75 inch Sony 900f. Based on the images you're showing the 4K is clearly superior. Much love and respect btw.

[@middle-agedgamer7375]

To be fair, I do sit 7ft from the screen. Just the way my tiny apartment is st up.

[@JeffRauseo]

The 4K is superior. But it’s not a huge difference like some others

[@middle-agedgamer7375]

@@JeffRauseo hey thanks for the response. Maybe not huge but based on the images you present on my Sony it's clear. I am seated 7 ft away eye balls to screen. Not all the shots were that definitive. But there's a clear difference. Based on the same type of analysis, 1984 Dune didn't have as big a difference between 4K and Blu ray as Silence of the Lambs. But then the quality of the KZbin download, the size and type of television and even the settings on the set can contribute to any perceived difference or lack there of. Bottom line, from where I'm sitting it's clear. Some one else with a smaller tv seated further away may not notice a bit of difference. Great review by the way. I'm finding myself watching your reviews more and more. I may be watching you more than spare change at this point. You're not as spoilery, lol.

[@MrCREWCRUSHIN95]

The revolution isn't the modest resolution bump. It's the HDR and DOLBY VISION.

[@danieldalton6544]

The Blu ray looks better.

[@gabrielmartinez600]

Vibes

[@Thecatdrums3]

Both having exclusive content is enough to double dip if you love the film. I loved the transfer and upgrading from the open matte dvd is cool to see the theatrical matte the director wanted for theaters. Great release and shame they stuck the sticker in the slipcover. I was able to get mine off without buying the slip but it is noticeable it was there. Criterion seems to only allow Sony to use their features now that both universal & kino released those films on 4K without them.

[@Nope2022HugeTheWarningFan]

It's supposedly got the wrong color space for the first 20 minutes.

[@Mexicodebauchary]

DVD crew checking in :(

[@Steelebourne]

For some reason, I never got this on Blu-ray. I don't care about commentaries, and I actually like the original cover art better, so I'm going with the Kino 4K.

[@Garemandude]

Respectfully, the director’s name is pronounced DEH-mee. I hope it’s okay to help you with pronunciations (Francis Ford KOH-puh-luh, not kuh-POH-luh). You are again, a great and credible resource for my hobby. Thank you

[@JeffRauseo]

Thank you! I can’t pronounce anything right 🤦

[@Garemandude]

I wrote questions for “Who Wants to Be a Millionaire” during its run at Disney’s Hollywood Studios. Part of question writing was spelling difficult words phonetically so that the Hosts could read those words and names correctly.

[@deckofcards87]

Dolby Vision is pretty here or there. I often play with the brightness and luma level on my 4k TV to make it look more contrasty and as close to 35mm "film-esque" as possible

[@themockbustercanada]

For me the 4K is cheaper than the Criterion, unfortunately the 4K is hard to come by.

[@Zeldaboy2k2]

I don’t see how comparing a Blu-ray disc to a 4K disc is fair. I’d rather see 4K disc to 4K disc, different edition. Maybe that’s just me.

[@robertrobitaille320]

Purchase Pan's labyrinth from criterion instead of the 4k one. I kept it because sound seems better. But image dam seems yellow green compare to a dvd I have of it. Dark image even if my player upgrade image. Almost wanted to return that criterion copy. Receive Silence of lamb of criterion upon your recommendation .

[@HowayTheMags]

I saw on the avforums that people were slating you in the Inglorious B*, review discussion. Think you need to get an OLED to silence them 🤣

[@cannibalholocaust3015]

For home cinema blu ray on a 4K screen is in my view as good as I need it to be. Sure little more contrast but there is almost an extra filmic quality with blu rays, like the extra noise(vs 4K) acts like film grain. Great vid btw and I should add for SOTL fans go watch Scott Glenn’s interview with GQ on KZbin, this is why I’m here..he gives some insights into Jack Crawford and really why Jonathan Demme(RIP) was a top notch director.

[@gamingrealmhd1444]

Thanks Jeff. I just purchased the criterion edition. it will be imported to germany :D

[@stugtodd2778]

More effective NR on the 4K

[@rajeevgidwaney8948]

Again!!! You will not know the difference unless you are reviewing the movie on a projector screen over 100 inches and . There is a difference and you have to have the right equipment to notice it.

[@adkinsproductions4055]

I didn't do a side-by-side or anything, but I do own both discs. II thought I noticed a marked difference between them on those extreme close-ups? But perhaps I was imagining it.

[@karanvirkooner1993]

Johnathan Demme was involved in the restoration from Criterion long before he died in 2017

[@calumbyrne5926]

The criterion still doesn’t have a region b version so If your live outside of the us you really have no choise

[@C4rL72]

shame the 4k isn't the leap from Blu-Ray, I currently do not own this on Blu-Ray but I will do now as both my TV and Player upscales. Cheers

[@ajzeg01]

You’re way off on this one. There’s some pretty serious colour errors on the first 20 minutes or so. That’s not okay.

[@JeffRauseo]

Color changes sure. Are they actually errors? That’s a subjective thing.

[@ajzeg01]

@@JeffRauseo Yes, they are definitely errors. It only happens during the first reel. Apparently it’s an issue with the materials MGM gave them.

[@alexdas2000]

Can’t wait to see your comparison of The Great Escape in January considering the 4K is only SDR

[@reservoirfrog1]

Very informative, thanks Jeff. I want the extras on the Criterion but the original artwork on the LK is 👌 😍

[@jhernandez626]

I still have the regular Blu-ray version so I’ll just go ahead and get the 4K disc version

[@PerfectSuperSaiyan]

Thank you for this was holding off on watching it due to this release, but I’ll stick with my criterion

[@popcorndistrict1334]

Jeff bringing out the goods! Taxi Driver, Misery and now Silence of the Lambs. Thanks for the review. Don't have this in my collection yet. Pretty tough decision to make between the two, I'll decide on Black Friday haha.

[@rafficrashid867]

Thank you for your Excellent review Jeff. Stay well.🙂👍

[@saviordream]

I picked up the Kino Lorber release when I was at Best Buy earlier today. Wasn't looking for this particular movie per say, but it was only $20 so I grabbed it. Hope to get a chance to watch it this week as I haven't seen it since it first came out for rental all those years ago (VHS maybe?).

[@bigcrackrock]

Alright Jeff from Films at Home. I think I'll wait for the next Criterion sale.

[@ebengreene6740]

Always criterion! They are film lovers!!!!

[@monijam1]

Thanks for this video, keep the comparison videos coming! BTW, I just got the Kino Lorber 4k...

[@jean-pierreroy7668]

I guess I should have waited for your review before ordering the 4K.