SILENT Buttons: Sanwa vs. Gamer Finger

[@OlinCaprison]

THE BUTTON THAT MIGHT SAVE YOUR RELATIONSHIP 😂😂😂

[@Darksid3c3]

Slept wife and went to play fg but caught because of button noises make sense 😁

[@belikewatersf1051]

It’s true ! Lol I’m buying them right now

[@BeatTenguDoomzy]

The issue with gen1 silent was many agreed they nolonger gave that satisfactory snap so the gen2 are just as they're meant to be. Very hard to get a responsive double tap or feel for plinking with the Gamer finger buttons unless you go for the cherry switch option. I agree with your review. Great observations. Thanks for taking the time.

[@tyisafk]

@@ShardTown Still significantly slient against the standard buttons though, which is the point. I think it's gonna be very difficult to come up with the "perfect" silent button, honestly. I have a set of GamerFinger buttons ordered and I'm excited to try them and I opted to include the silver ones, but the best part is that I can choose to use different CherryMX switches rather than buy a whole new set of buttons, which I think is the main purpose of these buttons. Not to be quieter.

[@plasmaoctopus1728]

​@@tyisafk Can gamerfingers use cherry mx browns? At least as far as gaming keyboards go they seem to be a good mix of quiet and tactile.

[@tyrellvick1195]

​@@ShardTown 🧢

[@michaelrobinson9708]

Put the white buttons in! They will match the laser design 😎

[@lafrancetartuffe]

I like the sound of noisy buttons It increases the opponent's level of stress in vs fighting

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

What really reduces the noise, using a wooden case with a half inch thick top and screw in buttons instead of that click in shite. :D

[@MulkeyBlueQuartet]

Yo I need those buttons the person who lives next to my apartment works nights and i feel bad when i wake him up during the day playing dragon ball fighterz

[@AlexiasPlaylist]

Are you hitting your fightstick with a hammer or are your walls paper mache?

[@mascar1lha]

Sup! I work nights, my neighbor is a aspiring DJ. 3 words: noise cancelling earbuds. Have your neighbor thank me later :p

[@zaku0205]

My wife hates the tapping of buttons so I need quiet ones ☹

[@MulkeyBlueQuartet]

@@AlexiasPlaylist both

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

Your walls are so thin that button presses go through the wall? Bruh

[@yoyopeeta]

My gen2s actually feel even better than my regular sanwas imo, the buttons seem to have a more flexible material in combination with the glossy finish that seems to help with sticking to your fingers even better than before and rising back up faster to double tap. Definitely gonna be buying more of these in the future for any other sticks I buy

[@gcavrubio]

I bought these gen 2 silent sanwa buttons. They are really good! They feel good, way better than my previous silent hori buttons. I don't think they are quieter than the hori buttons, but my girlfriend said their sound is less annoying.

[@iishyxvietxboyii]

My wife hates it when I play SF.

[@ecapsdira]

Thanks for making this video, I was looking for information on these new sanwas and was hoping you'd make a video on them. I'd love to see you try out seimitsus and hear your impressions on them, especially given your vast collection that you can compare them with.

I live in a quite neightbour, in a house. Once, I bought a cheep ass arcade stick on amazon, to try if I would like to make the change from pad. I'm still playing on pad bc that one arcade stick is not for ps4 if you don't switch your controller on it and I just want to plug and play. But the thing is that my neighbours, the next day after I first bought it ask if I was typewriting in an old machine. It was summer, the door was wide open, but yet... from across the street heard me mashing those buttons. xD

[@SirCharles.]

Pretty sure the actual body of the Sanwa silent V2 buttons are the same as originals, so you can customize a bit by just getting the color body that you want (focusattack sells them separately I think) and then use the plunger and switch from the V2.. but you're still limited to the plunger colors of the V2's.

[@PantheonLincoln]

Found this vid useful. Got a Hori Fighting Edge yesterday, beautiful stick, but the Hayabusa buttons were way noisier than I expected compared to my stock Te2+ with normal Sanwas. Good to know what options are out there. Shame GamerFinger seem to be all out of stock at the moment!

[@electroelysium2281]

OG Sanwa is the way to go for me. I love the nostalgic arcade-like noise of those buttons

[@maffooo2040]

You should make custom plungers for buttons with your logo on and sell them as merch, that would be really cool!!

[@Nemix27]

I'm sensitive to noise and I wonder why NO ONE who has made a video on KZbin about silent buttons has tried putting PC sound dampening foam inside their joystick cases. I mean the whole point is to make less noise for yourself and the people around you and NOT ONE brilliant mind has tried it. If sound dampening foam works to silent loud PCs, I don't see why it wouldn't work inside a arcade joystick case.

[@Gabrol]

Don't think it's the same. the sound of a PC comes from inside, the sound of an arcade controller pretty much comes from outside. You can't make the button quieter than it is by modifying the case. It can help with the resonance from the case, but the buttons themselves would still be loud

[@northdakotabeast1547]

I just got my gen 2s a couple of days ago. I must say, the rubber texture on the plunger is neither amazing or terrible and after hard use the “RT” button would have dead skin build up. Causing you to REALLY feel the rubber texture. (My palms usually have dead skin after like 3-5 hours of playing). The plungers have a clear coat to imitate the plastic plunger but if you run your finger nail lightly over it you can feel the rubber texture. Kind of wish they did the same is mechanical switch stems, where the contact points are rubber but the majority is plastic. This new plunger is all rubber and it’s weird at first but natural none the less. Also.... if you have naturally oily hair or skin, I recommend caking one of your hands with the oil and applying the oils over the rubber plungers as the clear coat plus oils will remove the rubber feeling even more. Edit: Nihongo said a Negan quote, “Feels Good. Sounds Good. Heh Heh.” PogChamp Double Edit: Ibuki’s rear end on the far left engraving is Kreygasm as af.

[@NihongoGamer]

interesting! I think I'll install all 8 of the gen2 buttons and give them a proper test over the course of a week to see about this texture rubbing away stuff.

[@northdakotabeast1547]

@@NihongoGamer Awesome, hope to see a final thoughts review! Also I forgot to mention that even applying oils the rubber feeling is still there, it's just not as prevalent. Cheers!

[@uriel4892]

I don't even use arcade sticks or play fighting games, but I enjoy this channel, why? ,🤔

[@epicon6]

I grew up in Japan in early 90's at the height of the arcade era and my brain is locked into Sanwa and Seimitsu buttons, so i could not change to gamer fingers even if they were superior.

[@Adam-deFlon]

Cool video Nihongo! i've been waiting for a in depth video on the Sanwa silent obsf V2 and they seem really nice!

[@kairu448]

IT'S OFFICIAL! NihongoGamer is a Negan main in T7 15:01

[@okinkaku8218]

Lmaooooo!

[@MikeBingo1]

The gamer finger buttons use cherry switches, so I you could quieten those buttons even with a set of O rings and get rid of the bottoming out clack.

[@RadMatter_]

I hope someday you will give the Etokki Korean Version a try here.

[@thyalex2442]

Yea 100% im getting the gamer finger buttons ! Cant wait

[@albertlee5439]

Thank you for this video. I've recently gotten a Madcatz fightstick and nearly got kicked out of the house for how loud the stock Sanwas were at night. You had recently uploaded a video titled, "So, should I quit?" Well, just know that this video just might have indirectly saved my marriage. :)

[@SAKVIII]

How are the buttons, are you still married?

[@albertlee5439]

SAKVIII They’re great! Still married! Haha!

[@calvinrichmond]

Albert Lee Thanks, I just purchased Madcatz fightstick also & should receive it in a few days! I just this video and said maybe, I should change my bottoms. Lol😂😂 did you go with gamer finger bottom? Thx

[@calvinrichmond]

Albert Lee typo: buttons?

[@albertlee5439]

@@calvinrichmond Sanwa Silent Gen. 2 OBFSE buttons.

[@EfunMa]

You should try sakurios/roselios inside your gamer fingers. I'm interested to see if you prefer them.

[@KLwalktroughs]

You should turn the video footage of the actual arcade upside down, i don't know, seeing it in the way it is feels, i don't know, weird man. It looks like i'ts standing on your lap and everything it's just about to fall down at any moment. It may be just me, but anyway just saiyng. Absolutely love your videos btw.

[@VeeBungo]

WOO! Excited to have this on on my long car ride!

[@FenixPajarito]

Generation 2 Silenced is louder than Gen 1 Silenced but Gen 1 silenced buttons are slow, Me as a King Of Fighters player which is a fast paced game I was having a hard time doing my plays using Generation 1 Silenced Sanwas cuz the buttons are stiff and slow. Bit Gen 2 silenced were just a bjt louder but faster and softer.

[@brunorodrigues2661]

Overall do you enjoy playing kof with gen 2 compared to non silent buttons ? I'm considering buying gen 2 to play kof too

[@beelbrother1648]

are the buttons actually sensitive enough to register when you are quickly tapping them with your middle and pointer finger, or are you simply demonstrating the sounds? what a wonderfully thorough and articulate mind you have.

[@diggilydog]

Buy the Little Kahuna from. Paradise arcade. It's a tiny disc that silences far better than any thing you've down but still retains feel

[@northdakotabeast1547]

Ehsan Reshid I’ll have to check these out

[@olbaze]

For being such a casual channel, this video is very thorough. How about some silent levers next?

[@ggn1]

Thanks for the video. I have some gamerfinger buttons waiting to get shipped out from Japan because of this!

[@SuperR-uh5cx]

Came here from playing DBFighterZ at night with headphones on where my god damn arcade stick defeats the purpose of no noise with its super loud stock buttons! Thank you for educating me on the silent sanwas, you saved 2 arcade sticks from my girls trusty hammer

[@Augmintt]

Price is going to be a big factor now with gamerfingers getting pricey

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Speaking of silent parts, there is a silent hayabusa arcade stick produced by Hori called the Hori Hayabusa Silent and it is available on Amazon and eBay.

[@gcavrubio]

I really want to give those buttons a try. I don't like the feeling of my silent hori buttons, but the noise of my regular buttons are also a problem.

[@ctrl_alt_deleter]

It's not the plastic that is different. It's the built in dampeners. The gen 1 had foam slips, but a lot of players didn't like them hence why they made a gen 2. But it uses the same plastic.

[@TomFooleryPlusR]

Some maker should try to use touchpads as buttons. Maybe with a little bit of padding on top for an even more silent experience.

[@SkilllfulL]

I was really waiting for your review and those buttons to come out and now I would like to switch my gamerfinger buttons to sanwa silent gen2 but unfortunately 24mm didn't come out yet so I have to wait even more :(

[@InbournAnkleBiter]

I wonder if silent buttons would take out some of the hollow sound in a Qanba Drone.

[@MrIceTeaz]

Great review thanks ♥

[@zeon86]

Downside of Sanwa Gen.2 is you can easily leave your finger nail scratch on it.

[@edrozenberg]

Fantastic review from a pro. Thanks!

[@valentinav.5868]

I disagree with the springyness of the sanwa button compared to the gamerfinger.. When Im on hitbox the gamerfinger buttons bounce back alot quicker so I can get the next input in for back dashing on tekken. The sanwas don't spring as hard so the input is harder to repeat over and over with clean inputs.. Gamerfinger imo has more spring imo. Gamerfingers also has more thump/harder pad like feel to it, Which I like but I assume original arcade players like the classic sanwa feel. Off Topic, but is there a way you can replace the nerve brain daisy chain quick connects for the victrix? The purple wire that plugs into the buttons Using a victrix hitbox pro fs 12

[@poleythepolarbear9706]

Is there a silent option for the Sanwa Screw-On buttons? I am ordering parts next week, and I have a handmade wooden arcade stick shell with a 1/4 thick mdf board for the top. I have generic Snap-In buttons atm. They damaged the wood, and replacing them with Sanwa Screw-On. Thanks for sharing these videos! :D

[@GaryMeacher]

Where do you order your buttons? Also-Id love to see a video of you replace the buttons on the Hori Switch Arcade Stick!!

[@GaryMeacher]

I guess you sort of did in this video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6XLdpdvaJien80) but Im really interested in the quiet buttons on the Switch Hori stick.

[@jannalfredgalibut5295]

they pretty much sound similar when you just put silencer washers on your buttons, or is it not?

[@RobSomeone]

Try the Razor MX-Orange in the gamerfinger!

[@Vermazing]

@NihongoGamer what don't you have a amazon store link for what you review? I literally can NOT find the gamer finger nore the Sanwa Silent gen 1/2. Whenever I do a search online random things pop up. PLEASE HELP

[@voantwan]

Have you tried the CROWN / SAMDUCKSA SDB-202 Mechanical Pushbutton yet?

[@XODuke]

im going to order some gamerfinger buttons

[@akira8-customkeyboards17]

I hate gen1 too but when you say gen2 it's OBSF in webshop ?

[@EternalDoctrine]

What's the tool you used to take out the buttons?

[@naasikhendricks1501]

Did it ever occur that alot of the noise is generated by the uncover and the recoil?

These buttons saved my relationship (with my arcade stick). With my wife... not so much.

[@calvinrichmond]

Nice! Did you go with the gamer finger buttons?

[@hakandemir5586]

What is the best key for friends Sfv? Can you help me.? I'm using Sanwa Denshi now if Gamer Finger is lighter than it I will switch to it. ??

[@leemoody2986]

I’m going with GamerFinger

[@DeejayCriB]

hi i hope you fine, nice video, i played all my life with standart buttons classic colors, and love this buttons (my fav) and i dont like sanwa clear buttons or seimitsu buttons lol so for the stick Victrix, the classic colors make too much noise, and about the feeling / responsive (P link, or double input) what the best Gamers finger or SAnwa Gen 2 silent ? thanks

[@Adalwolf17]

Can I remove the pad from the gen 1 sanwa silent buttons to make them normal? Looking to put sanwas in my new rap 4 but they are sold out of the normal sanwas everywhere

[@sbnr]

@nihongo gamer: Can you please link where to buy these authentic Japanese Sanwa-Denshi parts at the best price because I'm concerned about cheap chinese knock offs being sold as authentic Japanese Sanwa-Denshi parts. thanks.

[@jesuszamora6949]

... Stupid question, why the premium on silent buttons? Are tournies that quiet?

[@melaniemathias5885]

My boyfriend is driving me batshit crazy with his madkatz something or other fighting stick but he didn't put it together himself and it has rivets on it that prevent him from just opening the back up like you did here. I'm bout to google some more but anyone have advice? I need these magic relationship-saving buttons!

[@NihongoGamer]

Not all sticks can be modded but if you do manage to open it up it’s worth a shot! There’s another brand called Crown which I’ve never tried myself but they also make silent buttons that are the same size

[@SevansVII]

Most sticks can be opened; just not this easily. If it can be opened, consider looking into silencing pads for the buttons. Paradise Arcade Shop and Focus Attack (online shops) both sell silencing pads (or foam washers) that fit the average 30mm button. I actually use both brand's silencers simultaneously and the buttons are now much quieter than before. This is also a cheap solution and shouldn't cost any more than $10 after shipping. It's also a fun little project to boot. I've done a lot of buying and testing to get the quietest stick possible and there's definitely more that can be done at a higher price point but what I previously mentioned is the best and cheapest way to start. That said, it's never going to be a completely quiet hobby and even a super quiet stick like mine still makes more noise than just using a regular controller.

[@xGigantic]

Can you put two silencer foam pads in one button?

[@kawaiihaki2480]

dude im trying to get the wires off the back of my victrix buttons im having to use my full strength this feels so wrong. i feel like im breaking it

[@NihongoGamer]

The the metal “quick disconnects” have a tab on them? Pressing the tab helps to u latch them from the pins on the buttons. Other than that using pliers to get a more secure grip or wiggling it from side to side can help

[@Pavian651]

So which arcade stick i buy now if i won't Open my box?

[@zaku0205]

What if you add some foam pads into the gen 2 buttons??

[@kalessin4942]

I really don't like Sanwa buttons, but that's because they seem to register a press if you barely touch them, which makes it _way_ too easy to press them accidentally. Honestly, I don't know why they go anywhere near as far down as they do given how little you have to press them for them to register as pressed. I switched to Seimitsu buttons, and they've been much better. I've never compared the sound though. I may try Gamer Finger buttons at some point, but I avoid Sanwa buttons like the plague. I find it weird that they're so popular given how easy it is to press them accidentally. I would have thought that a lot more people would be unhappy with them.

[@NihongoGamer]

i think the popularity of sanwa buttons is largely because they're the most common buttons in Japanese arcades. Even if they have their flaws, people are used to it and switching can be a scary thought for people who've practiced hundreds of hours/days getting good for competitive play

[@kalessin4942]

@@NihongoGamer LOL. I don't think that I've even seen an arcade in about 20 years. They aren't very common in the US anymore, but clearly, that's one of those things that's different in Japan. And you can't swap out the buttons in an arcade machine. :)

[@NihongoGamer]

true! tho i suppose more and more arcade machines in Japan are coming out with USB ports for pads and bringing ur own stick

[@darkinertia2]

Get gateron silent switches! Theyre amazing, ive bought so many from novelkeys and theyre the best

[@Rain7th]

Will the illuminated buttons work with the victrix?

[@SchradeDemise]

Yo that case looks good where can i get one?

[@gpbear4]

do the gen 2 sanwa silent buttons have more friction when you slide your finger across them than other buttons? ive heard the plungers are made of a rubber material

[@NihongoGamer]

The buttons are made of a new material but they’re covered in a coating that makes them feel smooth like regular buttons. That being said, I’ve heard from others that the coating eventually comes off and the button has more friction as a result.

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

You really break the buckles that often? I just got into sticks seriously, and I've done a few installs already, and never had issues removing them really, don't see how you'd break the buckle.

[@bossman90o]

Love the video

[@Nyasiu]

3:38 *ALL OVER THE BOTTOM*

[@iishyxvietxboyii]

How are those silent??

[@Cloudy_Canadian]

How do someone know if they have gen 1 or gen 2 Sanwa buttons? I ordered Sanwa OBSFS Silent 30mm Pushbuttons off Focus Attack a few days ago, and have no idea what generation they are.

[@NihongoGamer]

The new buttons are called OBSFE the old ones are called OBSFS

[@Cloudy_Canadian]

@@NihongoGamer Alright, thanks for clearing that up for me!

[@TEKKENEnterMyDragon]

If you are selling your old Victrix, let me know, I'll collect in Japan

[@leemoody2986]

What is the best button?

[@Sprong4]

i like loud buttons

[@eloiferreira7500]

Sticks and buttons seimitsu , you dont like ?

[@F0r3v3rT0m0rr0w]

*likes clacky keys*

[@LAZERMAC87]

Are gamer fingers as sensitive as sanwa?

[@ggn1]

MX silver switches. Less weight to activate, and lasts longer

[@carlnikolov]

does the mayflash f300 elite have genuine sanwa buttons? they don't feel like they are genuine. I contacted sanwa denshi japan and they don't even know who mayflash is... can anyone confirm genuine vs counterfeit?

[@gitrekt-gudson]

They are real.

[@Jessica-si5wo]

U are so cute 😙 and funny xx

[@leemoody2986]

Last option, your videos are too long. You did a great job, just too long.