Silent Hill 2 - All Pyramid Head Scene Comparison (Original vs Remake)

[@DarkHypernova]

3:15 OG James: "OH SHIT! OH SHIT! OH SHIT! OPEN! OH GOD PLEASE OPEN THIS STUPID DOOR!" Remake James: "..."

[@IKurtC]

they should've kept the "i was weak" line it had an impact back then

[@wormpayback]

yeah but what about now? that whole speech was too on the nose while the remake perfectly captures the speech while not explaining exactly what the purpose of pyramid head was

[@LangostaCrustaceo-ss8ql]

To me, leaving all the lore and symbolisms aside, I never really knew a lot about Pyramid Head besides the fact that he was from Silent Hill and the fact that he was very tough, but the vibe he always gave me was more like in the remake, this strong, imposing enemy that looks like a final boss just from it's appearance.

[@xxfalconarasxx5659]

I feel like they missed the mark with the first boss fight. I understand the more open arena is better in terms of gameplay, but I feel the claustrophobic staircase with the flooded bottom in the original game was more panic inducing, and it just made more sense thematically. I'm also not so sure why they got rid of the Pyramid Head violating the Lying Figure. Some people are saying it is "censorship", but they kept the scene of the Pyramid Head doing the same to the Mannequin in the first cutscene, so I'm not so sure about that. However, to give the remake props, the Pyramid Head's intro cutscene is great. Maybe even better than the original. I like how the Pyramid Head is more unnatural and twitchy in its movements. It really emphasises the inhumanity of this entity. The metallic "breathing" sounds it makes is also a nice touch. They also fixed some of that silly logic that plagued the original cutscene. James actually turns his flashlight off, like any reasonable person would, instead of just leaving it on to shine through the door. The Pyramid Head is also no longer fazed by gunfire. In the original, the Pyramid Head, actually appears to get injured by it and flees the seen afterwards, which is strange when you consider that in actual gameplay, it's almost invincible. I'm not a purist for the original game. I can acknowledge when the remake does something better.

[@BronsonFan111]

Thank you for being someone that can actually think and not hold one game over the other like it’s a religious right. I feel the same way about the OG fight. It was nice to see the old arena in the apartments as a call back tho so we clearly see that Bloober really put their love and respect into making this game.

[@remingtongagnard4442]

Pyramid Head going underwater is iconic, feels more impactful than him just opening a door. BUT that room was small AF, maybe if they made him slower it would work

[@mysterycharm03]

the reason why James didn't turn off his flashlight is due to James state of mind and feeling of being disassociated and incapable of sometimes doing logical things. That's why he jumped in several pits without even thinking how deep it is or crossing an apartment building from a window, do grosteque things such as picking up a wallet on a filthy toilet. There's a reason why they leave it that way. Also James speaks in a dream like and sometimes neutral tone because he is in a state of delusion.

[@Pangtime]

It is censorship. They actually show the full act in the OG, not just a tiny glimpse of part of it from around a corner wall. The denial of you wokesters knows no limits.

[@nachgeben]

@@BronsonFan111 "I'm playing my favorite game for the first time" fan detected.

[@peanits121]

it's clear right from the first encounter how much the remake leans into cinematography. it makes pyramid head's presence much more impactful than the original

[@GunnzzNRoses]

Angles and cinematography were literally the bread and butter work of the og, you’re tripping. It even had set cam/tank controls making every scene presented in a specific way.

[@gabrielguerra8311]

@@peanits121 the OG did that too, even more so with the " fixed" camera, which was the whole game not just the cutscenes. Also, the big difference, Is that they seem to have changed the film style. The franchise used to be very heavy leaning thowards David Lynch style, in dialogue, acting, narrative, editing, and dreamlike atmosphere. And this was confirmed by the OG team, heck, the PH clóset scene, comes directly from "Blue Velvet". Now in the remake, I have no idea what were they aiming at.

[@peanits121]

@@gabrielguerra8311 i wouldn’t call the in-game camera angles cinematic at any point. the OG definitely had a somewhat “weirder vibe” to it, whereas the remake leans more into the modern mainstream horror games

[@gabrielguerra8311]

@@peanits121and thats the problem, they dont fit. Silent Hill was built on classic horror, and the second one, a little bit more on film noir. That weirder vibe... that comes from Crime and Punishment and Davi Lynchs works. Modern horror is kind of shallow, unless you take something like Ari Aster, now thats a better fit.

[@UnclePhil1112]

I’m waiting for modders to able to recreate the scenes from the original in the remake.

[@beatlefan-ym4pz]

I remember my first encounter with pyramid head it scared the shit outta me when it came out of nowhere

[@mister-pinkman]

6:47 I like that the remake didn’t have James blatantly state the purpose of pyramid head like the original did.

[@jessiehernandez1624]

Some fans will never be satisfied with anything 😂

[@predeterminedmeat5024]

I prefer the PS2 version line.

[@mister-pinkman]

@ yeah I mean if you prefer blatancy over subtlety that’s fine

[@predeterminedmeat5024]

@@mister-pinkman I don't. I'm a f**king Silent Hill fan, the best parts of the games are subtle. The new line isn't exactly some subtle masterpiece either, and in my opinion it's worse. Get off your high horse

[@lyonsrobbie999]

@@predeterminedmeat5024 Out of curiosity, why do you prefer the OG line here? I love both the original and the remake for different reasons, but SH2 does spell out Pyramid Head's meaning a little too clearly here. I would have enjoyed if they kept James saying "I was weak", but not "I needed someone to punish me for my sins."

[@TortafritaNinja]

2:10 i shitted my pants in that part.

[@Greyhun]

same :D I geniually jumped :D

[@Mastabacc]

I thought that was a great remake. I was not expecting him to appear behind especially when you don't even hear him.

[@monsterpipeline]

same, especially cause i was not expecting anything there and you could see pyramid head briefly too in gameplay right after going outside, the cut to the cutscene was an additional jumpscare

[@Luffy-vr5uv]

The rooftop scene got me!! I was just chilling reading that note and seeing this 7 foot giant Strangle me with ONE hand and throw me down who knows where was something else 😂 def one of the best horror villains in my opinion

[@ShiningEternity]

Wish they kept whatever was going on at 3:10 even if it wasn't supposed to be sexual. I'd give a slight edge to the Remake overall. The roof top scene in particular.

[@FailingDuke64]

He’s trying to compress and fold the lying figure up in a cartoonish way to hide the figment away. The Red Pyramid Thing was created to make James forget his guilt and actions. James is unemotional because of PH’s meddling

[@NoContextOasis]

@@FailingDuke64 nah he’s eating it’s ass

[@nocturnalrecluse1216]

Pyramid Head was clapping them cheeks. 😂

[@Antari-kun]

6:11: Original - Aaaaaa!!! Leave her alone!!! Nooooo!!!! Remake - Leave her alone. No? Ok

[@liittlemac]

It gives off a “pleading” vibe from James rather than the original where he yells, almost demands it

[@WoodlandDrake]

It's like James watched her die over and over again and after cycles of loss and self-flagellation, is finally ready to move on, to no longer hold himself responsible for things outside of his control.

[@MrWestSky]

The remake is in my opinion a lot better. Og looks weird with the scream before it even happens, he looks scared maybe?. In the remake he seems completely defeated even as he's entering the room and only screams after she dies again, as if he's finally had enough. That's just me tho.

[@BronsonFan111]

The way James screams in the remake is way better than the nonsensical screaming in the OG. It’s honestly more humorous than devastating. And yes, I love both the OG and remake so don’t say I’m having recency bias

[@HorrorISPassion2]

That's because he's defeated in the remake. He's realised what he has done and is pleading them to stop torturing him.

[@101TheShape]

the "sexual horror" got toned down a good bit.

[@tonyboyer1563]

Not really a bad thing to be he was obviously raping the first one but they kinda leave the rest up to the imagination. But man something about the king looking legs msuscular design is just too mf creepy but the chase in the remake was 10x scarier

[@kimberlyh.1090]

Not with Abstract Daddy, it didn't.

[@Tarking434]

Why is it so sexual lmao I don’t understand

[@pedromunychacho2711]

you need to play it through it all bro

[@Tarking434]

@@pedromunychacho2711 been thinking about getting it

[@itsaxel8088]

No one hates Silent Hill more than Silent Hill fans

[@hotcoldman77]

Facts. They're so exhausting to deal with smh

[@kimberlyh.1090]

I never realized how '14 and edgy' they are.

[@nottechytutorials]

I'm stealing this quote

[@TenKromDTX]

0:35 looks even creppier in the remake with those twitches

[@BlueJayz474]

Yeah that creeped me out too. I don’t know why, but sporadic and random quick movements like that always send shivers down my spine.

[@GRIZZLY12345]

Me personally I liked when he walked into the water without drowning then a few seconds later it drains then you have to follow while the siren is playing😂 i think they shouldve really kept that. Nonetheless great remake

[@val263]

and they said bloober team will ruined the game, i see they did better than the OG silent hill 2

[@brentwestbrook1826]

How did I miss the 2nd part in the remake? That part never happened to me. I did fight him in open area but pyramid head never did grab me by neck and throw me. I’m confused

[@Resident9Mercenaire]

It's mandatory who catches you on the roof

[@neocyndaquil]

I never got this part as well :(

[@FailingDuke64]

Its at the hospital right before catching up to Laura and fighting flesh lips. The person posting the video edited together the sequence into the wrong order.

[@mister-pinkman]

Dude it’s a cutscene it happens to every player

[@Travotch]

must not have gotten too far in the game yet then

[@maefromnitw]

people are complaining that they "censored it for modern audiences" but as someone who is new to this story, just because they toned down the overtness of it doesn't make it worse. speaking about the first scene in particular; as a new viewer it was Very impactful to me. i still got the same vaguely sexual vibe without it being as obvious, but looking at the two side by side, the new one hit me as far more eerie. im NOT saying that the remake is Better or that they made the wrong choice in the original, so do not come for me in an attempt to defend your game, im just saying that "censoring" it (it's not really censored anyway) was not necessarily a bad choice. i was more afraid of pyramid head while still associating him with some sexual idea. it definitely was not lost in translation, so i think we should all be able to rest easy now

[@uber21]

I dunno the original was more shocking so it was a stronger impact on how messed up PH was. The lack of "censorship" showed how shameless PH is. Framing is important but that's just my opinion

[@zack-pn6oe]

@@uber21but he does the same sexual acts

[@LIQUIDSNAKEz28]

*Modern gaming gas lighters:* 3:08 "Yeah, totally NOT seXual. Don't believe your eyes and ears. Masahiro Ito said so..." 🤤

[@MrKutKuGaruga96]

Seriously, people buying Ito's lies are delusional Just go watch Fukuro and keep telling me he didn't intend to make it sexual... the man is just embarrassed and trying to change the past

[@juannaym8488]

but it's still sexual in the remake? It's not shown as explicitly, but you see pyramid head try to untangle the mannequin's legs against its will

[@moomooman_]

I believe he was talking about the first pyramid head encounter, so you’re incorrect

[@Mysterion_KM]

Lmao they censored the scenes for ''modern audiences''.

[@Akosa117]

If you’re talking about the “rape” shit with pyramid head. The creator of the game said years ago that that was not what was happening. So nothings been censored

[@Mysterion_KM]

@@Akosa117 If nothing happens, why change it? Obviously new creators thought "something" happening and censored it. Also those creatures comes from James' fantasies. So, even if it's not a ''rape'', it is still a sexual reference.

[@pedromartin105]

@@Akosa117 Masahiro Ito says he did this to make these scenes look sexual. Pyramid Head (or Nurse) literally moans at 3:08 . How can you say there is no censorship?

[@Sin-pt2eq]

@@Mysterion_KM I don’t think you know what censorship is 💀 the scene was never a rape scene to begin with this game is just from a completely different perspective, we see what the character sees, it’s still the same scene

[@Mysterion_KM]

@@Sin-pt2eq Oh i get it you guys one of those modern audiences, that's why you trying to bend the truth ahaha. Bro blatantly lying and saying these two scenes are the same ahaha. You didn't even read what i wrote, these scenes were made to evoke sexuality, it doesn't have to be ''rape''.

[@dancingvalkyrie]

Nothing was censored and the games director said multiple times PH's scenes were never meant to be extreme in nature, that was always just fan interpretation.

[@ians_parks]

That was the art director that said that.

[@leozaz9402]

heavy cope

[@Pangtime]

Woke denial. The censorship is obvious in this video, you buffoon.

[@robbanbobban2]

In the Making of Silent Hill 2 the character artist very clearly states that most horrific scenes are coupled with erotic imagery, and that this was very much intentional. The amount of denial of this very fact will never stop being baffling to me. The scenes are so provocative you'd have to be insane to not consider them sexual.

[@dancingvalkyrie]

@@robbanbobban2 This doesn't at all confirm that any scenes were ever meant to be seen as a metaphor for r*pe. Especially since nothing about James' past has anything to do with being abusive in that particular way to begin with.

[@gabrielguerra8311]

They gave him more of a Nemesis or Tyrant attitude from RE now with just a tiny bit of the old twitchy weirdness, but they toned it down... THe old PH was very creepy and unnerving because it moved with the fluidity and unpredictability of a weird animal, like an insect having a stroke. His movements were all over the place. Now they made him like a creature bent on killing you. Even its weird twitches feel very controlled and purposeful ANd thats just... kind of lame. They transformed a weird unique entity that up to the end you dont know exactly what it wants, into the classic huge monster boss. They make it clear very early he is after you (which actually is not true). ANd I know this may seem scarier to some people... but that type of horror wasnt really what Silent Hill was all about. This thing was scary because of the huge mistery it was. Seeing him kind of doing something kind of sexual, even if it really wasnt, made you feel as uncomfortable as watching a mutant mantis having sex while it slowly decapitates its partner... Now its just.. Pyramid head acting like a killer gangster.

[@AVarghul]

I find it really odd that this is the take you got from it. The remake wants to absolutely make sure that the player understands that beneath the Pyramid mask, there's an otherworld version of James, born from his repressed and broken psyche. You can see it all the way since the first encounter in the shot reverse shot between them, which shows that they even share the same height. He's testing you at every instance, and gets absolutely batshit pissed when James doesn't understand what's going on or denies even further what he did.

[@GunnzzNRoses]

@@AVarghulPyramidhead isn’t james, dude. like every monster it embodies a demon he fights with, here it being his struggle with his own guilt and anger, a masochistic form of self torture for what he’s done. i’ve also heard it represents insecurity around masculinity, and that the “head” represents something phallic, but i never really bought that.

[@gabrielguerra8311]

​@@AVarghul I didnt see that, if you are talking about the reflections of James, thats taking it too literal. I think they intended it to be just a cool detail, not something that changes the nature of the creature. Pyramid Head is the incarnation of James guilt and need for punishment.. its not a doppelganger. Its a symbol to mean, James was the executioner, he killed Mary - Maria. It has no purposse really, its the way the town understood the symbols and feelings in James Subconscious. The whole manifestation thing, its suppossed to be based on how dreams are constructed in the mind. In dreams, people are not people, they are a shallow representation of what they are in real life, filled with wathever emotions we have connected to them. The same goes for Pyramid Head. Pyramid Head has certain "goals", they arent as precise as what we perceive as goals, more like, instincts, like an animal. They have compulsive erratic behaviors (glitchy) because they arent a solid reality entity. Thats why im not very happy with the new ampted up agressivenes and efficiency in wanting to kill you, it betrays their corrupted existence. They arent soldiers in the army of darkness, they are side effects of James main manifestation.

[@WoodlandDrake]

@@gabrielguerra8311 that's just it; Pyramid Head is driven by James' need for punishment, but in the remake the benevolence of it is made clearer. If you have watched Jacob's Ladder, a huge inspiration behind the entire franchise of Silent Hill, you would recognize that Pyramid Head is James's demon, tearing (specifically Mary's) life away from James. Even in the classic version of SH2 Pyramid Head was the demonic instrument of James' salvation; punishing him and pushing him until he realized that punishment is not what he needed. The remake doesn't change anything about pyramid head, it just makes the purpose of him clearer without removing all ambiguity and cruelty. While I would say that Pyramid Head being specifically James' manifestation holds water, the sad reality is that Pyramid Head is not exclusive to SH2 and has been shown to exist outside of James' pocket of Silent Hill, sometimes implied to be incarnated as other creatures like Valtiel. So, while the incarnation of Pyramid Head is one James encounters, it is not uniquely James' manifestation of self-flagellation, just the one that steps in to fill that role James needs. Maria is more of James' manifestation than Pyramid Head is (although Maria is also implied to be a character on her own) while James pulls Maria out of Silent Hill to be a version of Mary, Silent Hill sends Pyramid Head to take Mary away so James can move on.

[@mysterycharm03]

@@AVarghulthey make the new pyramid head more toned and muscular and by making it move fast it removes the scare factor because the builld has been removed. Also the PH in OG is more like a walking corpse, they made him very human like in the remake. He was supposed to be an ambigous monster.

[@LornaEGL]

Both awesome

[@Travotch]

what's funny at the 3:10 part is in the remake, The fight with pyramid head takes place in a different location, but u can still find the mannequin body pyramid head was freakin on by the staircase later on.

[@lovetrain5025]

Originally I wished that we still got that scene in the remake, but seeing the lying figure there by the staircase at least implies that scene still happens, despite us not seeing it. Which I think is the best outcome we can get. I’m appreciative of the extra pyramid head scenes we got in the remake.

[@faithslayer202]

Was the tongue flar still in the remake.

[@MachineMan-on4ul]

Scene 1 Original over remake. Pyramid head reacts really weird and out of time to thw shots whereas in the Original he just stands there like he always does. Its more tense and unnerving, it has more atmosphere. Scene 2 is a draw. I prefer the grate in the back as oposed to the door, but i think the remake is more polished (well duh i suppose) I think scene 3 its a win for the remake, i like they added a scene for pyramid head going into the other room Scene 4 its Original, the urgency is there, i didn’t feel that at all in the remake Scene 5 the remake gets it, very atmospheric. Original wins here for me.

[@welpimstillhere341]

They took away his freakiness 😞 an angel lost its wings fr

[@WoodlandDrake]

Original finale - James: You are my guilt, and I don't need you anymore. Pyramid Head: Fuck you, I am all that you are. Remake finale - James: You are my fear of death, and I don't need you anymore. Pyramid Head: Prove it.

[@richa16x]

Why they nerve all the ass clapping? Was hoping to finally get to see it in HD 😭

[@WHiTExNOiR]

10/10 game

[@king_fisherXX]

I see what ppl mean about the “censor” thing. If this game was made by Red Barrels (Outlast) then you would see it I bet. I'm chill with it either way imo, since Idrc and I figured out the meaning in the remake. Just tells me James wasn't the greatest human being to exist (which makes sense)

[@papa-r4p4n]

Siento que lo que es diseño, el de silent hill 2 normal es mucho mejor. La pirámide del 2 rekame solo está oxidado y con uno que otro toque de sangre, pero el normal se siente como una herramienta de tortura recién utilizada. No sé si me explico.

[@FreakishMatthew]

you guys are weird to wanting to see nasty creature sex or whatever the hell it is 😂

[@kylewood4488-b9r]

Horror isn't horror if it isn't terrifying, scary or disturbing. That's what I dislike about the remake. It censored what made Pyramid head so scary to many people.

[@MrKutKuGaruga96]

By censoring those scenes devs funked up PH argument Now they turned it into Nemesis

[@zack-pn6oe]

@@kylewood4488-b9rI think his big ass sword and red head makes him scary to people, not that he kinda rapes the figures

[@marcusc2357]

The original is better than the remake

[@Panos_2000]

Not it isn't especially not gameplay graphics wise and boss fights

[@delduvall]

⁠@@Panos_2000 And that’s the problem with younger gamers, they think it’s all about gameplay and graphics. Silent Hill is a series that is loved because of its art style and abstract story telling…. Something that feels lost in the remake. Just look at the design of the original compared the remake, it’s so superior.

[@Panos_2000]

@@delduvall superior? That's literally how PS2 games use to look like lmao how is it superior?

[@delduvall]

@@Panos_2000 See this is what I’m talking about, you younger gamers immediately think it’s all about graphics…. I’m talking about the art style of the original, do you know the difference between graphics and art style?

[@theraiden9631]

​@@delduvall As much as I played SH from PS1 and PS2, this remake already did better job. They still keep the same format, the dark ass light and the disoriented camera angle. James screamed after Maria stabbed is better than original one. This might burn your pubic, but the first encounter in remake is better than original. Especially James in closet.

[@IIlIllIlIllIIlIIlIlIlII]

the game is so awesome

[@AlaskanWitch]

the silent hill remake has that bloober feel. It's hard to describe but the newer cutscenes are just not as impactful as original.

[@czwitek1995]

You have to be retarded or some shit. The old one had goofy ass dialogue and bad delivery.

[@hotcoldman77]

Just stop. Nostalgia has definitely blinded you fanboy lmaooo

[@SeanTHATGUY]

the original is so much better than the remake with the exception of the AD fight

[@hotcoldman77]

Absolutely not lmaoo

[@androognoix1685]

The acting in the og is so distracting. The oddness method supposed to make the characters feel off, but it’s used even during emotional scenes when we’re supposed to feel emotional not off, it’s distracting

[@kg888]

😂 so they removed pyramid head getting it on. Wow, talk about fucked the lore.

[@murderycatdoll1380]

The dev confirmed a long time ago, he didn't "get on" with them... inform yourself before talking about lore

[@Belmont1714]

​@@murderycatdoll1380Why did he take it off? A few remasters out there like Tomb Raider and Dead Rising seemed to have been censored 🤷‍♂️.

[@mooncore.mp4]

Wtf that detail don't screw the lore bro

[@Akosa117]

@@Belmont1714it wasn’t taken out because it was never there. The dev said that that was not what was happening.

[@ЕленаПономарева-о6о]

Well why is there sexual moaning then? Or are you deaf and not hear anything🤣

[@disobey8828]

Bloober Team: (CENSORED FOR MODERN AUDIENCES) 👌👌👌

[@destinynoir2004]

My reaction to the original pyramid head: 😨😱 My current reaction to the remake pyramid head: 😑🥱

[@theoutsider1140]

I really like the remake so far but why did the switch up James shooting pyramid head and Pyramid head “sensing” James ? Makes no sense in that order 🤔

[@BIGBAZOONKERS]

I think it's to hint at pyramid head being an extension of James's subconcious. The same way you have a repressed feeling coming up from the surface, you can sense it in the back of your mind.

[@terenceprieto3964]

remake game worths nothing without Thunderlands jacket patches... pieceofS.

[@dusermiginte4647]

Imagine buying the same game twice... 😂

[@WHiTExNOiR]

Cringe

[@kapitumbulu]

Rockstar always makes people do that 😂

[@Agamemnon-w9x]

and for $70

[@FettDog7]

It’s a 23 year difference in graphics it looks completely diffrent and so much better

[@YTPGOD]

your bait is shit, do better next time

[@Roben1221]

Mannnn i remember playing Silent Hill: Origins on psp in middle school in broad daylight and even then it was scary as fuck. And when i played silent hill on ps2 also when sun was up i was scared shitless... and you know what? Playing silent hill 2 remake when sun settled down was nothing. They have ruined all scenes which have had a lot of emotions. It's just sad for me :(

[@VideoGameKitties]

I played the original and the remake, they didnt ruin anything.

[@LAJIRAFA66_ALT]

Part of it is probably because you're grown up i reckon. Nothing hits the same when you grow up

[@Roben1221]

@@VideoGameKitties For me? they ruined it like i said. I've played for example stalker or metro back in the days and playing them now i fell the same but with silent hill? sadlly no :(

[@Roben1221]

@@LAJIRAFA66_ALT I woudn't say so as i played metro or stalker in middle school and felt really scared as i am today. recently i played these games too and there are the same emotions as back when i played them in middle school. When in stalker i am going down to some lab alone i still fell scared, same with metro but with metro i am all the time there and still there is same emotion of fiellng scared. Silent hill for me is just ruined. :)

[@hotcoldman77]

Nostalgic gatekeeping fanboy detected lmaooo smh

[@Joyboy676]

Lmao they censored the scenes for ''modern audiences''