SILENT HILL 2 Remake on Steam Deck is...

[@SantiagoSantiago]

*More* Steam Deck: kzbin.info/aero/PLTWdN3u9x8JoYFcE9sA3QbUl_h__YK25q&si=XkjvDqrZwmzDrT6O

[@MarcoGam3r]

@@SantiagoSantiago Until Dawn when? 🗿

[@SantiagoSantiago]

@@MarcoGam3r Yes

[@CRAgamer]

This game drops frames down to the 40s on ps5 the poor steam deck is begging for mercy

[@GugureSux]

It drops to low 30s on PS5, even in performance mode. UE5 is by default a mess, but devs REALLY should not force Nanite down people's throats. It can outright make games run worse.

[@cedricmendoza8316]

Nah it's just the game. I've played RE4 remake on the deck and can run at 40fps on low mid settings with frame drops here and there.

[@CRAgamer]

@@cedricmendoza8316 nice, I usually leave it at 30fps with high visuals.

[@EthanWinters12]

​@@cedricmendoza8316re4 remake engine isnt ue5 its RE engine

[@TrueBlueMajikDewd]

@@GugureSux Agreed. We're a generation behind in hardware before we can appropriately use UE5.

[@sffortytwo]

4:30 How ironic that, in the original game, the fog was added to compensate for the PS2's limited performance. Now you need a powerful graphics card just to show the fog. My guess is that this game is just poorly optimized.

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Same on the first one for PS1, back when games were designed around hardware the limitations

[@adriank8792]

There's a difference between poor optimization and cutting-edge visual effects. This is an animated, volumetric fog that realistically "hugs" the environment. It's not a cheap effect. If you wanted to optimize it, it wouldn't look like fog anymore

[@Phyksar]

@@adriank8792 cutting-edge graphics would never justify consistent stuttering that this game has. And volumetric fog, which already has been in games for 10 years, has nothing to do with bad optimization, it can be disabled in configuration files but it wouldn't make the game run any better.

[@travis8106]

@@adriank8792 Exactly, these games are designed to take advantage of the best hardware available. Stop complaining about optimization on PC games when you can optimize it yourself using graphical settings. This game still looks amazing on medium settings and can run on mid range GPUs perfectly well with some tweaking.

[@kristoffer2stories61]

Actually the game is well optimized, the issue is Unreal Engine itself. For some freaking reason Epic Games (makers of unreal engine) decided to force nanite even though the hardware we have today isn't even capable of running it properly.

[@retroinspect]

I call this "nostalgia mode" because it runs about as well as Silent Hill 2 did on the PS2 lol

[@simbeep]

@@retroinspect damn😭😂

[@MsMRkv]

@@retroinspect and the PS2 port was one of the better ones XD

[@Zoolookuk]

​@@MsMRkv It was the original release, not a port. It also ran a lot better than this.

[@staysharp2453]

The Ps2 run this game locked at 60fps. What do you mean?

[@retroinspect]

@@staysharp2453 every silent hill on ps2 is 30fps locked. FMVs run at 60 interlaced

[@simsdas4]

Certainly playable. If it's close to the OG you won't be in the forest much at all.

[@SantiagoSantiago]

We will be good then!

[@rid3206]

every section in the game is way longer than the original, so maybe it can be a rough ride

[@elrandom71]

It's barely playable. A refresh is needed asap

[@ivalterbaptista2305]

@@elrandom71 and current steamdeck owners say there is no need for a steamdeck 2 lol.

[@TheMasterblaster32]

​Depends on what you want to play tons of great games in my deck oleds library.

[@NormanTiner]

I set it to dx11. Lowered all settings to low or off. Set render scaling to 50%. Turned on TSR, on low. No SSAO. No AA. Set game resolution to 1152x720. Turned on the Deck's built in FSR with 0 sharpening. Uncapped frame rate. It doesn't look as bad as you'd think. It runs 30-50fps and the dips are 99% of the time above 30. The only exception is in the damn forest and observatory. Even if I go full potato, lowest resolution, no upscaling so it looks like a Gameboy Advance game it still dips in the intro below 20.

[@DD2]

Is the steam decks driver far better then the build in fsr ?

[@jadenpokemon8952]

Seems quite playable, the stutter will hopefully be fixed with updates. Great to see an unreal engine 5 game be playable.

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Fingers crossed!

[@Spencerwalker21]

Might see a proton update as well hopefully it'll get a performance patch or very low settings

[@NormanTiner]

I love how UE5 touted features that were all about optimization but those features are actually super taxing.

[@mohdsalmand1385]

On a small screen 30fps are enough enjoy any singleplayer game. Even on low settings games look beautiful in handheld devices.

[@Hybred]

Because my Starfield mod was a bit buggy at launch (most of my mods are as they start out as experiments/beta) I didn't want to promote my mod until I had it in a good state. It's not focused in the SD specifically but rather all PCs in general, it's called "SH2 Essentials". Boosts my performance by 16% with no quality loss (image actually looks better). If you're using a Steam Deck or similar machine I recommend giving it a try.

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Thanks for the heads up!

[@Hybred]

@@SantiagoSantiago managed to squeeze another 16% out of it! When version 2.2 uploads that will be the one. I think a 32% uplift will help the Deck a lot

[@ivansirijillo]

thank you for your videos I always watch and copy your settings for my steam deck games, saludos desde Mexico

[@MackDaddyVic]

The fact that it can play on Steam Deck is mind boggling. I was not expecting this to be anywhere near even 30fps. I was thinking 15-20fps at best. Steam Deck keeps impressing me time and time again. However, I did just end up buying it on my PS5 just to be safe. Didn’t wanna spend $70 for average performance for a the PC version as I don’t own a beefy PC rig.

[@LaymanGamin]

I guess that depends on ur definition of “play”

[@seva809]

Hopefully Blooper wont leave this game unoptimised just as Dead Space remake team did.

[@ghostwalkergaming5856]

I think they will try to fix it but i doubt anything can be done. UE5 is just a terrible stuttery engine

[@romulofigueroadiaz480]

@@seva809 not much they can do honestly, UE5 struggles on a 4090, the poor steam deck never stood a chance.

[@edulohay956]

@@seva809 i thought they fixed dead space remake through a day one patch. Though on consoles its has some problems.

[@poopyALEX]

@@edulohay956 they didn't do too much, it's sadly still a mess.

[@AlexEqualsAwesome93]

@@edulohay956 they absolutely didn't.

[@niclasneziru1854]

The fact that it can reach above 40 fps even if just for a few seconds on a Steam Deck is insane It might not be as impossible as we think, we might get it to play at a stable framerate with a few updates and optimizations

[@benstokes160]

I'm up to the last part of the apartments on the steam deck. Its definitely dropping frames until you go through the forest to the first part it improves a lot. For me personally I think it's a completely enjoyable experience so far using these settings other than frame drops when there is more than one enemy on screen etc.

[@berva]

not too bad all things considered. These are really good optimal settings, thanks for the upload.

[@chrisbrando3964]

Seeing an optimized game on pc not from Nixxes and especially from konami is something else in this period...

[@ghostwalkergaming5856]

@@chrisbrando3964 this game is horribly optimized everyone who bought this game is getting insane stuttering and frame drops even on high end rigs.

[@clementrousseau3571]

It is not optimized unfortunately. It has very heavy traversal stutter including on high end graphic cards. Talking low 20s here. It is pretty scalable though, which is more to the credit of UE5 than anything else (…and so is the stutter unfortunately).

[@servare2599]

@chrisbrando3964 it's not optimised well at all, where did you get that from? Stutters constantly.

[@dyo_x0]

it forces u to play with rt on or else the game has no fog and the lighting is insanely broken. Horribly optimized even for launch

[@Darkiue]

@@dyo_x0 the heck you mean? I am playing on a 1050 ti man. I have both fog and reflections

[@Tomas91709]

I dont know what is causing this but in Hospital area in one scene i get 87 fps with lowest settings and 80 fps on epic settings without rt so only about 10% performance increase going from lowest to highest. Something is fishy. In intro Epic and low settings made massive difference in fps.

[@GugureSux]

Smaller, cramped areas = less things to render, including less stuff for the NANITE to re-render.

[@clementrousseau3571]

The game is dependent on Nanite and Lumen, which cannot be deactivated. They are not stressed as much in interior scenes as in exterior scenes, especially those heavy in foliage. The settings you can actually change in the game don’t make that much of a difference unless they start overlapping with Lumen and Nanite.

[@Tomas91709]

@@clementrousseau3571 But the point is that game runs bit better in parts with heavy foliage and is more scalable meaning going from low to epic makes bigger difference. Hospital runs worse than the intro and is far less scalable.

[@clementrousseau3571]

@@Tomas91709 there may be a bottleneck in your setup because so far nothing runs worse than the intro/Rosewater park on my end.

[@Tomas91709]

@@clementrousseau3571 gpu always running at 99%+ utilization

[@VitorMach]

I do have a Deck, but I'm actually pondering whether I should buy it to play on my i5-4690 and GTX 1060 6GB...

[@quesadilla79]

Thanx for doing this homework for this game on SteamDeck

[@SebastianSkadisson]

Thanks for these helpful videos!

[@amy-295]

The framerate drop alot in apartment....but got stable fps when outside

[@jacksonreynolds420]

Thank you for your information!❤

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

Hopefully the devs work on optimising the performance a bit.

[@Minmataro718]

So 25-35 fps on low. Honestly thats the frame rate target of most demanding switch games these days. So if u think of this as a mobile version of SH2 Remake is not bad.

[@fordcliffy]

thanks for your time and tips

[@godfather2386]

Hi Santiago, love your videos. Out of curiosity, I can’t tell, do you use the Steam Deck OLED or LCD version? I’m looking into getting one or the other, any thoughts? Thank you

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Thanks! The OLED in this case, the LCD is a tiny bit behind on performance, if you can spend the extra for the OLED, go for it, screen is way better, same thing when it comes to battery. But if you can get the LCD for cheap, you can't go wrong with it :D

[@godfather2386]

@@SantiagoSantiago thank you!

[@SwapnanilC1]

You should use cachyos handheld edition for the steam deck benchmark . it should perform much better than stock steamos providing a few more fps for sure.

[@alexanderkulaev541]

Thank you for the video! How do you get that awesome green keyboard skin? Would love to have it myself!

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Hey! Thanks for watching! It's called "Steam Green keyboard", not sure how I got it, I think it was in my inventory when I set up my 512gb Deck for the first time, maybe that's the only way

[@alexanderkulaev541]

@@SantiagoSantiago Ah, I see! Thank yuou. I have other keyboards on my Oled, perhaps that's the reason why too.

[@capoeragames2081]

Stutters just ruins the experience to me, i'll try the DX11 switch on my main rig, but i'll wait for updates if i'm not satisfied

[@ghostwalkergaming5856]

Use the -dx11 command and then use dxvk async. It made my game alot better

[@1pureacid1]

would you recomend getting silent hill or wait

[@joogled1839]

for only play on the steam deck? wait a bit. if you're planning on playing on higher performing machines, don't bother waiting.

[@user-ye3qn8bj9c]

@1pureacid1 maybe just play the original version with the enhanced mod, that's what I'm going to do.

[@cloudboysmusic5223]

lmao, wtf? this is me finding out that its out lol. Thought this game was still years away

[@JoDarklight]

I don't know why, but mine is a constant crash....I tried to change proton and settings, download it again but nothing....

[@NormanTiner]

Are you on the OLED model?

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Yes

[@محمد7-ز6ج]

Can you make a video using FSR3 it improves the performance significantly. Deck Wizard made a video on how to enable it

[@Spencerwalker21]

Does fsr 1 improve performance in the forest and is there any performance differences between the in game one and the steam deck one.

[@SantiagoSantiago]

FSR1 ran better overall, but looks very muddy, in the forest it didn't seem to help much though, something about the foliage just kills everything lol

[@Spencerwalker21]

​@@SantiagoSantiagoBummer but yeah fsr1 is booty

[@kaliman4013]

Little cuestion!!!!....i have asus rog ally, and when u go inside the apartments, rooms..look too bright why??...in ur video look normal (dark)

[@SantiagoSantiago]

I've seen some people mentioning this issue on Windows with AMD GPUs, seems that doesn't happen on linux. I read that enabling the raytracing option fixes it (but performance will suffer), so gotta wait for a patch

[@MarluxiaX2]

Do you think it would fair better on the Rog Ally at all?

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Yeah, the rog ally is faster hardware 👍

[@joogled1839]

the battery life would get shredded, 100%, but yeah

[@LingLing-ou6nt]

plays amazing on the X with raytracing on.

[@joogled1839]

@@LingLing-ou6nt battery life?

[@LingLing-ou6nt]

@@joogled1839 at 25 watts over 2.5 hours

[@charlesiserhien3440]

Is it playable. Like refreshing to play???

[@vincefranco45]

you should try deck wizards frame generation tip iv been getting 60fps on my lcd deck

[@fatihkan2601]

Would windows 11 installation help to increase performance? Because I'm really having serious problems with heavy games like rdr2 on steam os. I'm planning to convert it to windows 11. What do you think about this?

[@reveme]

@@fatihkan2601 nope. If something, it would be worse on Windows…

[@GugureSux]

Not at all. It would only make things worse.

[@clementrousseau3571]

RDR2 should work well on Steam Deck. That is unless you have cryoutilities installed. It clashes with RDR2.

[@fatihkan2601]

@@clementrousseau3571 heroic launcher is installed. Does it have something to do with performance loss..?

[@fatihkan2601]

By the way my problem with rdr2 is it's freezing after some playtime. I'll say 20 minutes straight gameplay. It just starts to freeze then becomes totally unplayable and even Steam os becomes unreachable. I have to restart the system when this happened.

[@EARMAKE]

what's the reason to play in beautiful AAA games on steamdeck ? Better to enjoy on PC

[@snowyuri1316]

Some people don't have PCs, but want to try out some games not on console. Or like In my case Im about to go on a trip so its nice being able to have something playable while im away from home.

[@imba9842]

how do you record video?

[@SantiagoSantiago]

PC + Capture card

[@GlassICE]

wowww, i never thought this game would be playable on an steam deck even with low setting but, wowww, i'm surprised !!!

[@joogled1839]

does it like... cost money to add fsr3 to games?? why is it missing from so many demanding titles?

[@armandolara1290]

@@joogled1839 you can actually activate it but performance doesn’t seem too improve much but bring RAM really high

[@elzer0181]

Will change my settings tonight

[@brandonisweird7000]

Do you need dx12 to enable HDR? It’s not available for me on my oled

[@clementrousseau3571]

It doesn’t work no matter the dx version you use for now.

[@brandonisweird7000]

@@clementrousseau3571 damn, thanks for the response man!

[@SantiagoSantiago]

If I force DX12, HDR does work for me, using "-dx12" or "SteamDeck=0" as launch options, although I don't recommend you do it, dx11 here helps a lot when it comes to stability.

[@AndrewTSq]

When the game looks better on PS2 :/

[@ijsman5530]

I think after a few patches it'll be 30 fps locked.

[@JeydetaJosen]

This game stutters even on my beefy PC... steam deck is handeling it like a champ... I thinks more of a optimization problem from the developers.

[@M_son765]

How do you turn on fsr

[@timsteele8063]

It's only 70 dollars... What do you have to loose...

[@mogli3leo]

@@timsteele8063 70 bucks ?

[@GugureSux]

70 dollars and 50 gigabytes of valuable storage space, for a DEImake that's all around inferior to the original game, backed up by a Californian woke extremists who think that gamers and people with white skin color should be "weeded out". Literally.

[@joogled1839]

$70 usd = $104 aud on steam. $120 aud for a physical copy for ps5. that's how much we've got to lose.

[@hogan4670]

55€ ($60,41) second hand in CEX spain

[@INSTINCT777]

@@GugureSux you realy like to smell your own farts do you? Nothing is "woke" about this game. It's just a realy good horror title that honors the original. You could have fun right now but no you decided to just spread crap on the internet.

[@shodanargie1574]

Podés comparar el uso de ram en dx12 o liberando fsr3 con el comando Steamdeck0 yo lo probé y se va un poco a la mierda la vram pero anda mejor de lo que esperabs con fsr 3.

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Lo probé pero después de un rato se llena la ram por completo y el juego se enlentece muchísimo :(

[@emanndaman8315]

Pls test Sparking Zero early access

[@queenxdva]

ahhh man. this was one of the reasons why I'm holding back on buying a steam deck. I like solid performance/frames, and it seems as if most newer releases struggle to do 60fps on the deck. really hoping the steam deck 2 is more powerful to handle a solid 60

[@TrialbyFire]

Looks like Kier Starmer

[@bradbrad6750]

here it drops to 5fps sporadically on a 1650 super/ryzen 2600, like once every 5 minutes, super annoying

[@MotorAmerica]

impressive

[@alancoccia3356]

I don't understand why for me is 20 fps outside.

[@yiwenechristiangautier8151]

@@alancoccia3356 Quaked version?

[@alancoccia3356]

​@yiwenechristiangautier8151 what you mean with Quaked?

[@ivand5699]

@@alancoccia3356 Pirated

[@alancoccia3356]

​@@ivand5699 no is original

[@alancoccia3356]

​@@ivand5699 no

[@dannyton8478]

Chill , the game just released 2 day

[@mat30ify]

@santiagosantiago are u planning on doing untill dawn. FSR3 not working on gtx 10 series cards even with the -dx12 fix which worked on silent hill 2 no joy

[@SantiagoSantiago]

Haven't tried forcing DX11 or 12 on that one, soon enough I will ;)

[@MarcoGam3r]

Stutter Hill 2

[@Caspeaon]

it looks playable but not pleasant. looks like im getting it on PS5 lol

[@MKR3238]

@@Caspeaon thats a great description for AAA games on the deck lol

[@chnniceguy]

Rather cloudgaming than all-low-30-fps

[@Benchmark_Gaming_Gameplay]

Test in -DX11

[@darthdecimus6739]

I'm once again asking for until dawn 😂

[@SantiagoSantiago]

I will get to it, there's dragon ball sparking zero, after that, until dawn will be done too ;)

[@MarluxiaX2]

Haha its you again.

[@TheL1arL1ar]

Finally a reason to use my low end gaming laptop…over my steam deck…3050 with 16gb ram(still not amazing but it will do)The last game I played was evil within 2, and a spectacular boxing game called undisputed that the steam deck cannot even handle at 30fps for a fight night clone 🤨.

[@trenken]

When i bought the steam deck i expected to get 2-3 years out of it before it wasnt going to be able to handle new games we. We are getting to the point where newer games arent running well. This, FF16 and plenty of others. Another years most newer games are gonna be bad on the deck.

[@1GTX1]

I was honestly impressed when i saw PS4/new games running on steam deck when it launched.

[@trenken]

@@1GTX1 yeah but now we are getting into ps5 games and even on low settings they are struggling on the deck.

[@GugureSux]

Rejoice! The Deck is keeping you safe from the UE5 mainstream trash.

[@dramaticmudderer5208]

I mean, I'm running final fantasy 16 fine, just not at native resolution, instead 640x400 without fsr(dlss in this case), and medium to high settings, only can do low settings(with some tweaks if you need higher fidelity) if you aren't using frame generation(specifically dlss frame generation) and even then it's usually above 30s in fps, especially in combat, stuttering is still an issue but that happens on any GPU(it's GPU related, GPU gets pinned at 99%, some say setting upscaler to auto helps) You can also use ffxvi fix to mess with lod and fov to increase it more I've not found a game that can't be ran on the deck yet, maybe by default it can't but remember it's a pc Hogwarts legacy, I can get above 50 fps at highest settings, at 640x400, with frame generation, with performance boost for potato pc mod, and that's at 10 watt tdp Jedi survivor, already runs fine now without anything, but I can get max settings with fsr quality(with fsr sharp 5) at 800p with frame generation in coruscant, shattered moon(so far, haven't got to others yet) only need to lower settings in koboh, and even then you can use May the performance be with you potato pc pak(sadly only works on koboh so far) and I'm getting above 30s in fps at 10 watt tdp without fsr at 800p(tested before patch 9), almost 100 at lowest settings without fsr at 640x400(tested after patch 9) Horizon forbidden West so far is still very playable without extra tweaking, but I'll reserve my thoughts on that since I've heard it becomes real bad in the desert(I'm at the start of the West after the ambush) Point is, the deck is a pc, the only way it can't handle games is if it can't run the game at all and/or is running at below 30 fps no matter what

[@NormanTiner]

​@@dramaticmudderer5208640x400… that's insanely low. It's one thing in old games that were designed at a resolution like that, but there's no way menus or text are legible at that resolution on modern games.

[@RayzaNC]

A very bad way to experience the game, Steam Deck isn't for cutting edge UE5 games.

[@AdelioDemers]

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[@Travis_Scorsese]

Per usual it runs terrible Loads of stutters too 😂

[@evilcrashbandicootthetouho2753]

Not bad from deck

[@KP-48-007]

Poorly optimized game across all platforms

[@Kanafa-pb19x]

Wow this plays like complete garbage on SD.

[@Thewolfartist24]

The game is Lagy. This is so FRUSTRATING.

[@VirtualFunction]

this game is a performance disaster all-round

[@sykogaming2442]

Please test beowulf the game

[@SantiagoSantiago]

I played that one on PS2, awesome game!

[@sykogaming2442]

@@SantiagoSantiago This game was not released on ps2

[@Ichibanjt]

30 fps it's fine for me

[@elgatoxlr8948]

Yo tengo una rx 6600 xt y tengo un stuttering terrible

[@BombastikJam]

what cpu? High-end cpu makes stutters almost invisible

[@elgatoxlr8948]

@@BombastikJam Ryzen 5 3600

[@BigCheeseEvie]

Txaa looks better than tsr at lower resolution

[@edwardlashley3572]

Don’t do it. It runs like junk & looks awful. The OLED ain’t doing a damn thing for this game. But you know what does run better than this & it actually looks good on steam deck’s OLED display? Until Dawn. But Silent Hill just isn’t gonna look good of run good without optimizations from the dev team . They need to get their heads outta their rears & fix the stupid coding. lool

[@S-420]

Unreal 5 ruins everything it touches

[@michaelrodriguezbarahona8197]

In mi opinion this game is hard to run, simpy bad optimized...

[@mocogalletano]

30fps on a empty game

[@ACM1PTLOCO]

Los gráficos de este juego no son tan impactantes para lo que pide de requisitos le falta optimizarlo resident evil 4 remake tiene gráficos mucho mejores y la mayoría de sistemas incluye do la deck lo corren bien Es la versión beta del juego por eso va así de mal

[@themistoclesadmir2997]

The Game Cant Even Run 1080p On Consoles Without Frames Dropin To 30s

[@HunterStrix]

hdr looks terrible in this game